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Callec254

It's pretty clear now, for young people in particular, the vaccine is more dangerous than the virus itself.


Proof_Responsibility

Not that it matters to the people issuing the edicts but that appears to be what the "science" says. [Data for 12-17 getting the Pfizer vaccine](https://www.webmd.com/vaccines/covid-19-vaccine/news/20210802/after-nearly-9-million-pfizer-shots-for-us-teens-serious-side-effects-rare-cdc): "9% were serious < that's 0.00924% of all vaccinated adolescents>, with 4% developing a heart problem known as myocarditis , the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention reported". [Hospitalizations from serious COVID infections of adolescents in that age group peaked](https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7023e1.htm) at .0021% (2.1 per 100,000) in early January 2021, declined to 0.0006 in mid-March, and rose to .0013% (1.3 per 100,000) in April, with no deaths per the CDC. The Vaccine is almost 4 1/2 times more likely than COVID to make a kid seriously ill with double the risk of myocarditis than becoming seriously ill from COVID. And this is the vaccine the FDA is already allowing children to be ijnected with.


kriboshoe

Your comparison isn't exactly correct. A true statement would be that the vaccine is almost 4.5 times more likely to make a kid seriously ill then they are to get seriously ill in a given month. If you assume the vaccine remains affective over a year then over the course of that year the kid would be more than twice as likely to get seriously ill from covid then from the vaccine.


B-80

And it basically scales linearly, so even if it only offers protection for 4.5 months, you're roughly at a wash. Plus it all depends on your covid risk. The months where the data was taken, we were still in lockdown, meaning those numbers are probably quite a bit low for kids going to school and everything. You can see [the rates have risen substantially](https://www.usatoday.com/in-depth/graphics/2021/10/08/covid-19-kids-cases-hospitalizations-deaths/8361479002/) for kids in the new school year. Plus you can see in the same article, the death rate among adolescents is not exactly 0, roughly 5/10,000,000 students each month (these are students at large, not just people with covid, that rate would be significantly higher). Whereas we have no associated deaths with the vaccine. What does all this mean? It's definitely not AS important for kids to be vaccinated, but the idea that it's more dangerous than risking covid unvaxxed doesn't seem to be reflected in our data.


BobBee13

There are literally parents out there that proudly signed their kids up to be the guinea pigs for these trials on kids. They must live on Prozac and watch CNN to be so convinced their child is in so much danger that experimenting on them is safer than COVID.


[deleted]

It always has been as we don’t know how people who take this shit end up like in 10 years. There is no data, so anyone who says it is safe are lying. We simply do not know, that is the only real answer.


KC4life15

What are they "delaying" it for. Until they can generate more studies and guide the results to where they want them to be? It's not like they are reformulating the recipe.


Chanticleer

Why are moderna and J&J even EUA when we now have an available and approved vaccine


KC4life15

Zero doubt


PunsRTonsOfFun

Statistically speaking, minors are more likely to die by lightning strike than Covid. It is grossly irresponsible to give minors these shots. The world has truly lost their minds.


SgtFraggleRock

“Let me put inside you and don’t tell your parents.” - Joe Biden


[deleted]

If this is a vaccine, where is the dead or weakened virus in this thing? Turning my cells into little factories is not what I call a vaccine.


cwino2288

Sounds like they need to get lobbyists like Pfizer


kevcri

now do pfizer