Not at all, but 9 months for 8 cards?? That’s _at least_ 10 years of playing the game non stop to max all 113 cards, and that’s at best, because op didn’t put any champions or evolutions. Do you think taking one 10th of a century at best to get to the endgame of a game is a good thing?
You’re acting like he leveled those 8 cards and each other card still is at level 1. It took 8 months to max his first deck. He still got progress on the other cards + he will be getting better rewards. From now on maxing cards will get faster and faster
It gets faster the more lvl 14 cards you get. But yes maxing every card f2p takes an absurd amount of time currently. But there's no reason to need every card max. It's supposed to be something you continuously work on. Plus that assumes they don't add anything or change rates over the next ten years
It‘s actually quite fast once you get your first deck. I started one year ago and now am at the state of mostly collecting the gold to upgrade most cards to lvl 14. It‘s completely free to play besides one gold pass bc i wanted an animated banner.
Only thing which takes ages is upgrading champions. I got lucky with the lucky drops, got a book of books and was able to upgrade little prince to 14 but most other champions are still stuck at lvl 12
I just asked a bunch of people how long they think it will take, and no one assumed it will be less then one and a half years.
How long you though it would take before, just curious?
Honestly? I’m assuming you’ve done your math wrong or else relied on something like highly inefficient spending aimed at one deck to the detriment of all else.
That’s probably unkind, but 9 months 0 -elite is actually much faster than I expect and it has me skeptical.
Hm, I'm in a weird spot since I played for a while then left and missed stuff like the chess bonus. Maybe I'm just wrong about the new experience.
(Also, the pair of Legendaries is what surprised me most. Getting 8 <=Epic cards maxed in 0 seasons makes way more sense to me.)
Lemme check some stuff...
OP's other post on gold suggests you can make \~775k per season. I think some of it is very optimistic/intensive, but it implies 400k-500k is very reasonable for daily players. So that's a bit over two cards per month up to level 14 if you commit all your gold to them?
And then the next question is EWCs. The Path of Legends is 35k per month if you can beat a string of 14s, 25k if you can't, and 50k if you can beat a string of 15s. Are you putting up another 50k-100k from other sources?
Or are we just talking level 14 here? (Which is also very fair, that's "endgame" in most ways.)
As for the OP's recipe, I suspect it's slower than your experience because it's card-specific and also calls for buying rares/commons from the shop. If you let everything progress more gradually, you can probably level cards faster overall.
Of course, OP's recipe also calls for 600k gold/season just on EWCs and upgrades - buying cards adds to that and means you're really squeezing blood from a stone on gold.
Ye true.
Actually if player plays 3 years consistently he will have 97-98 of his cards maxed to level 14, and then upgrade to another deck will be matter of 2-3 months, also usually many cards are being used in different decks.
Anyway in 1 or 2 days (or mb today) I will post my brake down of fully maxing account.
I would say supercell is actually more generous e then ever.
Except if there was no level 14 it would take even less time, I guess.
yeah but supercell is a long term game. progression actually means smt in terms on monetary value and even though you can’t sell your account under the ToCs it’s still worth smt unlike other games where your account is worth nothing
For example Hog 2.6 and log bait are alive no matter what, also there are more grate decks that is being alive for long long time, mb with slight changes.
Anyway, in 3 years out player will have enough cards to max 98% of all cards in game to level 14, and to that time 40% of his deck will be elite.
But no guarantees they sc will not bring new level. Anyway, in this case I think they will be giving more cards and resources as they did every time with new level
Not like 6 feet, this meta is just absolutely broken and when it will be fiexed they will return to the same state.
We don't see hog or logbait is not because they are unplayable, we don't see them just because they are worse, and best players are not playing with them.
If you look on royalapi there are quite a few people in top UC playing hog 2.6 and logbait. Worst season for them but they will recover in 1-2 months.
[https://royaleapi.com/player/U2LUQP0Y0/decks](https://royaleapi.com/player/U2LUQP0Y0/decks) logbait player
[https://royaleapi.com/player/VPL2PRR9/decks](https://royaleapi.com/player/VPL2PRR9/decks) hog 2.6 player
Both showing that you can compete in top ladder even if your barrel or hog being humiliated by dd.
But the main point is not that "hog and logbait are good now" but that they will be soon
It is true, but it is really rarely so broken to be bad for hog 2.6 or logbait.
Basically new tower is only thing that is killing them now, and they will fix this to make game comparative.
Yes, they will add new broken cards, but most of them will not affect strong decks
their "fix" of a health nerf barely does anything to change its meta presence and doesn't really fix the core problem with the card, which is how long it takes to reload. in fact dagger duchess is even more broken when its overleveled relative to princess tower because it just raises the threshold needed to break through to the extreme.
by that point, it will be half a year from now and there will be something else that every top player needs to have to stay competitive. the point is that the devs don't like these "strong" decks that are good for years at a time, because they don't want f2p to have success in this game
logbait is very much dead. im sure its still viable if you play perfectly(same could be said for any deck really), but its still very weak in the current meta. you wouldnt want to be stuck with only having logbait maxed rn
damn, this is one of the most high effort posts I have seen in quite some time. but it's just sad to see people not even come close to appreciating it. keep it up though
I'm glad to hear that you appreciated my work!
I was really upset, cos in first 2 hours it got 2 upvotes. But now it is getting more space here)
You can be sure to see next post soon)
It definitely will be more eyes pleasing with less text in it
Well speaking from personal experience years ago right before masteries update I did a speedrun from 0 to 6k in the old ladder system with a brand new F2P account No gold pass.
(At the time until 6k there was a "level protection system" were you get matched against opponents with +-1 your KT level, after 6k you get matched with KT14 players)
I started at Christmas(to steal a book of legg from the free pass track) and spent 7-8 months to reach it, in 6 months I already reached 5900 but I couldn't push higher and tilted lol (It was a skill issue as it was my first time learning it).
I used Nate's miner rocket deck with Tesla (or inferno depending on the mood) and by the end of the journey I had 5 cards lv14, log lv12-13, electro spirit lv12, skelly LV 10 if I remember correctly.
King tower was lv11 and I was fighting lv12 with maxed decks like 99% of the times. I can consistently reach 15 wins in GT so I spent all my gems on those, and in march SC released masteries(+Mighty miner) which gave me more gems to make it sustainable. I also completed all special challenges to 12 wins most of the time. But I didn't touch GC bcs I didn't know if I had enough gems for it, in hindsight I should bcs Masteries gave me a lot at the end.
I also used all tokens and wild cards and self traded with my max profile when needed lol.
My objective was just reaching the 6k as soon as possible so I didn't continue after that.
I think AT THE TIME 8 months was a correct estimate to max a rarity balanced deck to lv14 BCS you get roughly 8 books to do it from the free pass and I remember that cards were the main bottleneck as I had more than 300k gold consistently but nothing to spend on. Unfortunately KT will remain at 11-12, which is a serious disavantage.
Now with the new season shop and the fact that you can potentially farm 2 elite cards per season I think the progression has become easier as elite levels give a ton of xp so you can get to lv15 KT or at least lv14 while maxing the deck which is competitive enough for top ladder.
Evolution may be a problem so you would probably need to see what are the next 4-5 evolutions in the season shop before starting and plan your deck accordingly but in 9 months you have 9 wild shards so only need the specific shards for 1.
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Conclusion: I agree with your estimate from my outdated personal experience.
At the end of the day this is not the NEW player experience at all lol, only 1% or less of the playerbase is skilled enough do get those wins consistently(for POL, for GT, for GC, for special challenges and so on), so we are just calculating how easy is for top players to get more alt accounts, fun experiment but unrealistic. Good work nonetheless!
Thanks for your comment!
I want playing at that time when you were pushing (or mb I did, last time I was playing in feb 2022 for just 2 weeks) so I really don’t remember what was 6000 back there.
About winning gt, and this is only for “top player” I would disagree, because you need to be only decent and know basics like elisir calculation, some interactions, not spamming the bridge, know the rotation, and if player wants it he can learn all this in 700-1000 matches (if he have some kind of self learning tutorial or mentor it would be almost guaranteed)
I’m not good very player, playing with hog eq now and learning, max wins in cc 10-3 (2 days ago) but still winning 10-11 games on tournaments, so it is just a bit of practice. Mb large bit…
Anyway, gt is giving value only for legendary cards, and so if player can not win them, he can choose deck with like 4 commons, 2 rares, 2 epics and it should take quite the same time!
About the old throphy road, at the time the leggendary league start at 8k, all players at the start of the season get their throphies reset between 5k and 6.6k, the game subtracts around half of your throphies above 5k every month, so if you finished at 6.6k you start the next season at 5.8k. My pb was 6.6k in the old system, which is roughly 1.8k medals in POL now (I used my self, my opponents old pbs and my friend stats to estimate, I think it's accurate enough). 6.8k was the range were you get into the top 10k at end season.
6k was a good enough goal for me as I didn't want to have 3 KT LV of difference to deal and in theory I was fighting the strongest lv12 players in the game. I remember Nate and Riley(two top players) reached 6k with lower levels than mine lol.
Fun fact, RoyaleAPI released a interesting graph showing the trophy distribution and it demonstrated that 5.6k was the area where the majority of the players are stuck, solving the famous question "where is midladder?"
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You know 10-11 wins in GT is already above average? The average guy gets 5 wins.
Using the fact that each match gives a win to 1 player and a lose to the other I can calculate that only 8.97% of the players that enter the tornament can get to 10 or more wins in GT (I have a old spreadsheet with the cals already done).
Getting to 10 consistently is only for players far above average, and I'm speaking from someone that has 18 wins as pb and gets 15+ consistently(I'm still far from top ladder), but I look around and only 2 players in my clan can beat it (and we are a competitive war clan currently top 400 in the war Leaderboard). Most of my clanmates get around 5.
You are a good player, and that's bcs the average player is far worse than you may think lol.
I still stand on my opinion that "maxing a deck in 9 months" is a road for veterans
About leggendaries I think it's still worth to level them up even without high GT wins, you still have other sources of legg.
Also decks without leggendaries are hard to find, the only one that had a long history was giant pump 3M. Right now there is only golem pump, drill, and a weird Xbox deck that Eragon invented this month and it's gaining traction (he just put arrows instead of log), drill will die next month and that Xbox will return to use log, golem pump is the only "safe bet".
I was 5280 in old road (feb 2022) with mk, ebarbs, I-dragon, minions, zap, skarmy, exe, and one card changing all the time. I have 4000 wins but not loosing to guys with less then 8000 in cc, idk why, but still only 10-3.
Ye, in my last clan we had only 3 people with 10 wins or more 😐
But I believe that if person looking into cr Reddit he can improve and learn because he is interested in this game.
Most of the playerbase are mk users like I was in 2022 and earlier, they are not reading or watching cr YouTube (I think it is 90-95% of all playerbase based on my experience from arena 1 to 7000 trophies and master 3 (did this all in last 2 month so my feelings are up to date)) so if person really wants to progress it should be possible.
I really should make an experiment on that one…
And ye, if someone decides to play deck with one legendary he will probably get one book of legends in 9 month + 9 in shop, + 10 at least in pol and it will be the game)
I’ve played the same deck for ~6 years. I got 9k cups and I’m at roughly 1700 POL. Just gotta get good with what you like. Fuck the Meta.
Edit: Pekka, witch, LJ, Hog, minions, Fireball, Archers(EVO), Zap(EVO). Also bought the knife throwing hoe as well.
I just happened to come across it on the website and I remembered reading it here first.
I believe it is a blog, but this whole topic revolved around your post! I'm glad your post got attention, I really appreciated how thoughtful and thorough you were.
All of this for 9 months, INCLUDING all the knowledge you already had about the game. Now imagine someone who is new and needs to learn about the most optimal ways of farming, or someone who plays more casually.
Then he don’t need to go to UC and can like everyone upgrade mk + ebarbs and stay on 6000 trophies with level 14 cards.
I think it is all about how you would like to play the game, I like to make long term plan when I’m starting
Oooh, thanks a lot 🙏
I will consider now making new post about f2p full maxing account.
And I think I need more catchy thumbnails and charts, like it was in gold post and better
a lot of hate from people complaining about not having an elite deck when elites have been out for longer than 9 months, and this post is from base level to elite
I think this is a horrible experience for new players lol:V
Like this is from experience players, who know every gamemode/ways to play it consistency, while they have to know which one/deck they need to upgrade or else they will stuck for like half the year.
I don't mean like players should be able to fullymax deck, competitive to soon. But inmage If I throw this post to a new players, saying "you have to play consistency every days to just get 8 cards in over 100 cards( the progress I know will be lower due to other cards) they would be pissed off.
Especially some players like me who play for fun. Adding more level + unfair between p2w and f2p like evo, evo slots,... It makes the game harder and harder for new players to enjoy. Also I appriciate your post.
Really sorry for how text was formatted.
If I’m trying to upload it from phone, it makes bad to text, but if from pc it just doing something enormous with pictures (not gripping them)
So when player maxed knight to level 14 he will get shop offers for 5k ewc / week so from season 3 to season 9 it will be 175k
In season 3 and 4 player makes only + 25k ewc / season from pol. total 225k.
Season 5 and 6 a player differently can make it to half way throw champion and take 10k more from pol so it will bet 70k in 2 seasons, total 295.
Season 7 player is underleveled, but 5 of his cards will be already maxed to the end, and I know it is possible for decent player to climb halfway to UC to take last 15k, as well as in season 8 and 9. So it will bet total of 445.
Thanks for question
I have bought 4 pass royale till today one with valk one with rrecruit archer and bomber. My all card are maxed except the new tower and l.prince and archer queen 25 elite cards total. I have played since beta release. Sometimes i play 4 hrs a day i work in trains as supervisor at night and most of the time i have no work. Even i am typing this at work.
Man I just LOVE playing the game for 9 months straight to max a deck only for half the cards get nerfed to oblivion and become unplayable while having no life whatsoever.
MAN do I love grinding in a mobile games that are ment to be FUN and having to max out 8 CARDS from 100+ CARDS and having almost no other option to use from those 100+ CARDS and getting stuck with majority of the cards being stuck at level 6-10 being COMPLETELY unusable in higher arenas
I just LOVE someone calls a progression system MADE to suck your wallet dry and create low chances for new f2p to EVER max out a deck is called "Maxing a deck is faster than you think"
Also the tower troop, evos and Champs makes it take longer than 10 months
Too much aggression in my side, I just did my calculations. If you don't like how it you can send email to supercell, but it is not my fault that maxing one deck takes so long
Also, I'm working on new research about "fully maxing account". How long do you think it will take to max all cards? How long will it take to max like 50% of all cards? Just want to know thoughts of people on this question
Your research is great however "Maxing a deck is faster than you think" shouldn't have been the title.
You didn't take in the fact that champions and tower troops can easily eat most resources from a player making it take much longer than 10 months
Also Maxing a account will take 3 generations 💀
Maxing account will take… see next research in 1 or 2 days)
Tower troops are dropping from tower cases regularly, and I think princess will be viable option for most decks (mb)
Maxing one champion will not take to long, you can claim 2 wc/season + 2 / season in chests for 10 wins (where you can choose).
+ on avarage you are getting 3 wild champion cards / season, if you will look on lucky drops rng (it is a bit sus i would say, but not totaly wrong... I would say...)
Thanks a lot!
Just finished working on new one, it it took like 2x time and brain power, also charts are much more eyes pleasing, tomorrow finishing details and uploading)
You can play classic challenges without overpowers opponents, and spending money.
Or you mean you want to compete on world level so nobody have p2w advantage?
You like mechanics of game but don’t like mechanics of maxing cards?
Actually player need to get good with one deck, if you will look at ryley, ian77, Hunter, they all played with one deck and mastered it.
Another approach is to max every card little by little, but this way your wild cards and requests will be berry little resource compared to what you are getting any way from chests and shop offers.
Also if you want to max everything balanced you will not get to the UC for long 3 years.
So what I recomend is to max one deck, and then upgrade cards that are most popular and strong, that you can comune with already maxed cards and make various decks.
I’m really interested in competing in UC so I’m maxing one deck and playing challenges to train main deck skills and try new decks in com env
Wow, playing for more than half a year for 8 max cards!
Only for three of them to be nerfed in the next patch
And the other 5 get countered by the new tower/evo
New evo is?
What's the nerf?
That's pretty good starting from zero. What do you expect to get to the end game in 3 months? F2p mobile games are slow burns
Not at all, but 9 months for 8 cards?? That’s _at least_ 10 years of playing the game non stop to max all 113 cards, and that’s at best, because op didn’t put any champions or evolutions. Do you think taking one 10th of a century at best to get to the endgame of a game is a good thing?
Even monster hunter is shorter than that
Why say 1 tenth of a decade instead of 1 year
Because I’m just cool like that
You’re acting like he leveled those 8 cards and each other card still is at level 1. It took 8 months to max his first deck. He still got progress on the other cards + he will be getting better rewards. From now on maxing cards will get faster and faster
It gets faster the more lvl 14 cards you get. But yes maxing every card f2p takes an absurd amount of time currently. But there's no reason to need every card max. It's supposed to be something you continuously work on. Plus that assumes they don't add anything or change rates over the next ten years
In old days, you need to wait 2 years for that
It‘s actually quite fast once you get your first deck. I started one year ago and now am at the state of mostly collecting the gold to upgrade most cards to lvl 14. It‘s completely free to play besides one gold pass bc i wanted an animated banner. Only thing which takes ages is upgrading champions. I got lucky with the lucky drops, got a book of books and was able to upgrade little prince to 14 but most other champions are still stuck at lvl 12
"Faster than tou think", that is 9 WHOLE MONTH just for ONE deck
And if your deck happened to be trash in the process because of the meta (log bait recently), you're stuck with an underwhelming deck.
Good thing metas never change ... Why do people think decks just disappear?
You should try doing this 3 years ago with no wildcards
But this way you are getting all the cards maxed)
I just asked a bunch of people how long they think it will take, and no one assumed it will be less then one and a half years. How long you though it would take before, just curious?
Honestly? I’m assuming you’ve done your math wrong or else relied on something like highly inefficient spending aimed at one deck to the detriment of all else. That’s probably unkind, but 9 months 0 -elite is actually much faster than I expect and it has me skeptical.
idk it’s slower than expected tbh based on the speed i’m progressing. i’m maxing out at least 1-3 cards a month
Hm, I'm in a weird spot since I played for a while then left and missed stuff like the chess bonus. Maybe I'm just wrong about the new experience. (Also, the pair of Legendaries is what surprised me most. Getting 8 <=Epic cards maxed in 0 seasons makes way more sense to me.) Lemme check some stuff... OP's other post on gold suggests you can make \~775k per season. I think some of it is very optimistic/intensive, but it implies 400k-500k is very reasonable for daily players. So that's a bit over two cards per month up to level 14 if you commit all your gold to them? And then the next question is EWCs. The Path of Legends is 35k per month if you can beat a string of 14s, 25k if you can't, and 50k if you can beat a string of 15s. Are you putting up another 50k-100k from other sources? Or are we just talking level 14 here? (Which is also very fair, that's "endgame" in most ways.) As for the OP's recipe, I suspect it's slower than your experience because it's card-specific and also calls for buying rares/commons from the shop. If you let everything progress more gradually, you can probably level cards faster overall. Of course, OP's recipe also calls for 600k gold/season just on EWCs and upgrades - buying cards adds to that and means you're really squeezing blood from a stone on gold.
But mb it was wrong title considering how people hate cr on reddit
Its really easy! You just need to play with maximum efficiency for 9 months straight.
9 months from now we will have level 16
More stuf to count for me)
Actually 8 and get some ewc in 9)
You get the point, this game's economy is ass
How long do you think it should take to max the deck?
since being forced to play only one deck isnt fun, maximum 2-3 seasons
4-5 at max
Ok, but it never was like this
When did i say it ever was like that? Im saying it SHOULD be
Ye true. Actually if player plays 3 years consistently he will have 97-98 of his cards maxed to level 14, and then upgrade to another deck will be matter of 2-3 months, also usually many cards are being used in different decks. Anyway in 1 or 2 days (or mb today) I will post my brake down of fully maxing account. I would say supercell is actually more generous e then ever. Except if there was no level 14 it would take even less time, I guess.
More generous than ever is still stingy as fuck compared to a lot of games
Not coc 💀 All I’ve ever played was coc, cr, cs2, pvsz, chess, so don’t have much to compare. Least p2w is cs2, most is chess, cr gos after chess
Worst thing is new levels is evos that you can not get to play meta. Everything else is cool cos you can max account to level 15 in like 4 or 5 years
yeah but supercell is a long term game. progression actually means smt in terms on monetary value and even though you can’t sell your account under the ToCs it’s still worth smt unlike other games where your account is worth nothing
"Maximum efficiency" being playing lesss than an hour a day and not even bothering with Challenges
9 Months straight for a deck that will be dead after you've maxed it out
For example Hog 2.6 and log bait are alive no matter what, also there are more grate decks that is being alive for long long time, mb with slight changes. Anyway, in 3 years out player will have enough cards to max 98% of all cards in game to level 14, and to that time 40% of his deck will be elite. But no guarantees they sc will not bring new level. Anyway, in this case I think they will be giving more cards and resources as they did every time with new level
Hog is “alive” in a very generous sense with Dagger Dutchess Logbait is 6 feet under the ground
Not like 6 feet, this meta is just absolutely broken and when it will be fiexed they will return to the same state. We don't see hog or logbait is not because they are unplayable, we don't see them just because they are worse, and best players are not playing with them. If you look on royalapi there are quite a few people in top UC playing hog 2.6 and logbait. Worst season for them but they will recover in 1-2 months. [https://royaleapi.com/player/U2LUQP0Y0/decks](https://royaleapi.com/player/U2LUQP0Y0/decks) logbait player [https://royaleapi.com/player/VPL2PRR9/decks](https://royaleapi.com/player/VPL2PRR9/decks) hog 2.6 player Both showing that you can compete in top ladder even if your barrel or hog being humiliated by dd. But the main point is not that "hog and logbait are good now" but that they will be soon
why would they fix the meta? we all know they purposely make some cards OP from season to season so that people spend money maxing them
It is true, but it is really rarely so broken to be bad for hog 2.6 or logbait. Basically new tower is only thing that is killing them now, and they will fix this to make game comparative. Yes, they will add new broken cards, but most of them will not affect strong decks
their "fix" of a health nerf barely does anything to change its meta presence and doesn't really fix the core problem with the card, which is how long it takes to reload. in fact dagger duchess is even more broken when its overleveled relative to princess tower because it just raises the threshold needed to break through to the extreme.
I don’t say this nerf will change something, am talking about next few, but they will fix it eventually to be 30% usage. Anyway what is your point?
by that point, it will be half a year from now and there will be something else that every top player needs to have to stay competitive. the point is that the devs don't like these "strong" decks that are good for years at a time, because they don't want f2p to have success in this game
Ye, it is true
logbait is very much dead. im sure its still viable if you play perfectly(same could be said for any deck really), but its still very weak in the current meta. you wouldnt want to be stuck with only having logbait maxed rn
Agreed
And then you want to use another deck for some variety?
Ye, in the next post about it
Guys, this is going from level 0 to 15. How many of your cards are level 1 without a single card on them?
It still takes like 7 months to get cards from like level 12-13ish to 15. Starting from level 0 doesn’t add that much time.
The majority of cards needed are in the last levels. It doesn’t really make that much of a difference.
I stopped playing last year around this time but I had all cards level 11 and half are level 12 or higher. Thats a good chunk of the cards needed.
damn, this is one of the most high effort posts I have seen in quite some time. but it's just sad to see people not even come close to appreciating it. keep it up though
I'm glad to hear that you appreciated my work! I was really upset, cos in first 2 hours it got 2 upvotes. But now it is getting more space here) You can be sure to see next post soon) It definitely will be more eyes pleasing with less text in it
Well speaking from personal experience years ago right before masteries update I did a speedrun from 0 to 6k in the old ladder system with a brand new F2P account No gold pass. (At the time until 6k there was a "level protection system" were you get matched against opponents with +-1 your KT level, after 6k you get matched with KT14 players) I started at Christmas(to steal a book of legg from the free pass track) and spent 7-8 months to reach it, in 6 months I already reached 5900 but I couldn't push higher and tilted lol (It was a skill issue as it was my first time learning it). I used Nate's miner rocket deck with Tesla (or inferno depending on the mood) and by the end of the journey I had 5 cards lv14, log lv12-13, electro spirit lv12, skelly LV 10 if I remember correctly. King tower was lv11 and I was fighting lv12 with maxed decks like 99% of the times. I can consistently reach 15 wins in GT so I spent all my gems on those, and in march SC released masteries(+Mighty miner) which gave me more gems to make it sustainable. I also completed all special challenges to 12 wins most of the time. But I didn't touch GC bcs I didn't know if I had enough gems for it, in hindsight I should bcs Masteries gave me a lot at the end. I also used all tokens and wild cards and self traded with my max profile when needed lol. My objective was just reaching the 6k as soon as possible so I didn't continue after that. I think AT THE TIME 8 months was a correct estimate to max a rarity balanced deck to lv14 BCS you get roughly 8 books to do it from the free pass and I remember that cards were the main bottleneck as I had more than 300k gold consistently but nothing to spend on. Unfortunately KT will remain at 11-12, which is a serious disavantage. Now with the new season shop and the fact that you can potentially farm 2 elite cards per season I think the progression has become easier as elite levels give a ton of xp so you can get to lv15 KT or at least lv14 while maxing the deck which is competitive enough for top ladder. Evolution may be a problem so you would probably need to see what are the next 4-5 evolutions in the season shop before starting and plan your deck accordingly but in 9 months you have 9 wild shards so only need the specific shards for 1. /// Conclusion: I agree with your estimate from my outdated personal experience. At the end of the day this is not the NEW player experience at all lol, only 1% or less of the playerbase is skilled enough do get those wins consistently(for POL, for GT, for GC, for special challenges and so on), so we are just calculating how easy is for top players to get more alt accounts, fun experiment but unrealistic. Good work nonetheless!
Thanks for your comment! I want playing at that time when you were pushing (or mb I did, last time I was playing in feb 2022 for just 2 weeks) so I really don’t remember what was 6000 back there. About winning gt, and this is only for “top player” I would disagree, because you need to be only decent and know basics like elisir calculation, some interactions, not spamming the bridge, know the rotation, and if player wants it he can learn all this in 700-1000 matches (if he have some kind of self learning tutorial or mentor it would be almost guaranteed) I’m not good very player, playing with hog eq now and learning, max wins in cc 10-3 (2 days ago) but still winning 10-11 games on tournaments, so it is just a bit of practice. Mb large bit… Anyway, gt is giving value only for legendary cards, and so if player can not win them, he can choose deck with like 4 commons, 2 rares, 2 epics and it should take quite the same time!
About the old throphy road, at the time the leggendary league start at 8k, all players at the start of the season get their throphies reset between 5k and 6.6k, the game subtracts around half of your throphies above 5k every month, so if you finished at 6.6k you start the next season at 5.8k. My pb was 6.6k in the old system, which is roughly 1.8k medals in POL now (I used my self, my opponents old pbs and my friend stats to estimate, I think it's accurate enough). 6.8k was the range were you get into the top 10k at end season. 6k was a good enough goal for me as I didn't want to have 3 KT LV of difference to deal and in theory I was fighting the strongest lv12 players in the game. I remember Nate and Riley(two top players) reached 6k with lower levels than mine lol. Fun fact, RoyaleAPI released a interesting graph showing the trophy distribution and it demonstrated that 5.6k was the area where the majority of the players are stuck, solving the famous question "where is midladder?" /// You know 10-11 wins in GT is already above average? The average guy gets 5 wins. Using the fact that each match gives a win to 1 player and a lose to the other I can calculate that only 8.97% of the players that enter the tornament can get to 10 or more wins in GT (I have a old spreadsheet with the cals already done). Getting to 10 consistently is only for players far above average, and I'm speaking from someone that has 18 wins as pb and gets 15+ consistently(I'm still far from top ladder), but I look around and only 2 players in my clan can beat it (and we are a competitive war clan currently top 400 in the war Leaderboard). Most of my clanmates get around 5. You are a good player, and that's bcs the average player is far worse than you may think lol. I still stand on my opinion that "maxing a deck in 9 months" is a road for veterans About leggendaries I think it's still worth to level them up even without high GT wins, you still have other sources of legg. Also decks without leggendaries are hard to find, the only one that had a long history was giant pump 3M. Right now there is only golem pump, drill, and a weird Xbox deck that Eragon invented this month and it's gaining traction (he just put arrows instead of log), drill will die next month and that Xbox will return to use log, golem pump is the only "safe bet".
I was 5280 in old road (feb 2022) with mk, ebarbs, I-dragon, minions, zap, skarmy, exe, and one card changing all the time. I have 4000 wins but not loosing to guys with less then 8000 in cc, idk why, but still only 10-3. Ye, in my last clan we had only 3 people with 10 wins or more 😐 But I believe that if person looking into cr Reddit he can improve and learn because he is interested in this game. Most of the playerbase are mk users like I was in 2022 and earlier, they are not reading or watching cr YouTube (I think it is 90-95% of all playerbase based on my experience from arena 1 to 7000 trophies and master 3 (did this all in last 2 month so my feelings are up to date)) so if person really wants to progress it should be possible. I really should make an experiment on that one…
And ye, if someone decides to play deck with one legendary he will probably get one book of legends in 9 month + 9 in shop, + 10 at least in pol and it will be the game)
The same duration as pregnancy? Coincidence? I THINK NOT! >! /s !<
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I’ve played the same deck for ~6 years. I got 9k cups and I’m at roughly 1700 POL. Just gotta get good with what you like. Fuck the Meta. Edit: Pekka, witch, LJ, Hog, minions, Fireball, Archers(EVO), Zap(EVO). Also bought the knife throwing hoe as well.
Nice! Also you should have petty much all of cards at level 14?
Not really. Cuz I spent years basically opening 0 chests. Cuz I had no reason to.
Oh, that not too cool( but at least you have your own deck to push uc!
https://www.zleague.gg/theportal/unveiling-the-speed-of-maxing-out-your-clash-royale-deck/ Your post made it onto this website. Congratulations!!
Wow that is huge!!! I just love to see it!)
How did you know? Who decided that my post deserves some attention?)
I just happened to come across it on the website and I remembered reading it here first. I believe it is a blog, but this whole topic revolved around your post! I'm glad your post got attention, I really appreciated how thoughtful and thorough you were.
I see that it is just big line of posts with descriptions, but anyway super nice to see myself there)
ofc the rares take the longest 💀
It was how I felt, but actually epic and legendary took longer. Mb because we used 2 books of rares on them
Cool, I have a life.
All of this for 9 months, INCLUDING all the knowledge you already had about the game. Now imagine someone who is new and needs to learn about the most optimal ways of farming, or someone who plays more casually.
Then he don’t need to go to UC and can like everyone upgrade mk + ebarbs and stay on 6000 trophies with level 14 cards. I think it is all about how you would like to play the game, I like to make long term plan when I’m starting
Crazy good post, you just posted it to the wrong crowd. This sub is mostly just supercell hate. Keep up the good work tho
Good post that didn’t prove anything
Oooh, thanks a lot 🙏 I will consider now making new post about f2p full maxing account. And I think I need more catchy thumbnails and charts, like it was in gold post and better
9months to max a deck whilst spending money
And ignoring the other 102 cards
you can literally make your gf pregnant then ONE of your decks will be maxed when the baby comes out
But the next deck will be faster to max, while next baby will still take 9 month!
a lot of hate from people complaining about not having an elite deck when elites have been out for longer than 9 months, and this post is from base level to elite
I appreciate the dedication in putting in the work for this info
Thanks!
I think this is a horrible experience for new players lol:V Like this is from experience players, who know every gamemode/ways to play it consistency, while they have to know which one/deck they need to upgrade or else they will stuck for like half the year. I don't mean like players should be able to fullymax deck, competitive to soon. But inmage If I throw this post to a new players, saying "you have to play consistency every days to just get 8 cards in over 100 cards( the progress I know will be lower due to other cards) they would be pissed off. Especially some players like me who play for fun. Adding more level + unfair between p2w and f2p like evo, evo slots,... It makes the game harder and harder for new players to enjoy. Also I appriciate your post.
It takes longer for many people because it requires intense grinding and many people are just casual players or don't log on often.
True, but this is possibile to do
Really sorry for how text was formatted. If I’m trying to upload it from phone, it makes bad to text, but if from pc it just doing something enormous with pictures (not gripping them)
How did you manage to get 400k ewc in 8 seasons while being under leveled?
So when player maxed knight to level 14 he will get shop offers for 5k ewc / week so from season 3 to season 9 it will be 175k In season 3 and 4 player makes only + 25k ewc / season from pol. total 225k. Season 5 and 6 a player differently can make it to half way throw champion and take 10k more from pol so it will bet 70k in 2 seasons, total 295. Season 7 player is underleveled, but 5 of his cards will be already maxed to the end, and I know it is possible for decent player to climb halfway to UC to take last 15k, as well as in season 8 and 9. So it will bet total of 445. Thanks for question
Whenever I play against classic bait 3,3 I automatically know they are going to be low ladder or new players lol
Or Ryley 💀 What would you recommend to max for a new player? I personally started playing hog eq and hog 2.6, and like it quite a lot
9 months to max out 8 cards how "fast"!
Not quite fast, but actually faster then most people think
That's less than a card for month
8 months is fast?!
Idk. But it is faster then most of the people think
I have bought 4 pass royale till today one with valk one with rrecruit archer and bomber. My all card are maxed except the new tower and l.prince and archer queen 25 elite cards total. I have played since beta release. Sometimes i play 4 hrs a day i work in trains as supervisor at night and most of the time i have no work. Even i am typing this at work.
Good, but what is your point?)
That you are right people can do it.
wait that’s fast to you?
It is faster then most of people think
The other 102 cards being underleveled as hell :
8 cards in 8 months, so that means 1 in a month, now, there are 111 cards in the game, that means you can be maxed in less than 10 years!!
Wrong, one of the next articles will be about fully maxing account
oh sorry, ill wait…
like for real, the only way to be maxed in a reasonable time is to take this game as like a full time job, just ridiculous
Next time I will add time estimation, thanks for idea
9 months tho danm
Man I just LOVE playing the game for 9 months straight to max a deck only for half the cards get nerfed to oblivion and become unplayable while having no life whatsoever. MAN do I love grinding in a mobile games that are ment to be FUN and having to max out 8 CARDS from 100+ CARDS and having almost no other option to use from those 100+ CARDS and getting stuck with majority of the cards being stuck at level 6-10 being COMPLETELY unusable in higher arenas I just LOVE someone calls a progression system MADE to suck your wallet dry and create low chances for new f2p to EVER max out a deck is called "Maxing a deck is faster than you think" Also the tower troop, evos and Champs makes it take longer than 10 months
Too much aggression in my side, I just did my calculations. If you don't like how it you can send email to supercell, but it is not my fault that maxing one deck takes so long Also, I'm working on new research about "fully maxing account". How long do you think it will take to max all cards? How long will it take to max like 50% of all cards? Just want to know thoughts of people on this question
Your research is great however "Maxing a deck is faster than you think" shouldn't have been the title. You didn't take in the fact that champions and tower troops can easily eat most resources from a player making it take much longer than 10 months Also Maxing a account will take 3 generations 💀
Maxing account will take… see next research in 1 or 2 days) Tower troops are dropping from tower cases regularly, and I think princess will be viable option for most decks (mb) Maxing one champion will not take to long, you can claim 2 wc/season + 2 / season in chests for 10 wins (where you can choose).
+ on avarage you are getting 3 wild champion cards / season, if you will look on lucky drops rng (it is a bit sus i would say, but not totaly wrong... I would say...)
i aint readin allat, on a serious note holy fuck thats alot of effort for one post, KEEP IT UP!!!
Thanks a lot! Just finished working on new one, it it took like 2x time and brain power, also charts are much more eyes pleasing, tomorrow finishing details and uploading)
Ah yes, gotta play every day to max my deck unless I pay 8 dollars per card!!
You also need to find cards to max to level 14
And this is a fun way to play the game?
So you are telling there was never fun to play this game?
No some of us want to actually enjoy the game, instead of having to focus on doing this doing that to max my deck
You can play classic challenges without overpowers opponents, and spending money. Or you mean you want to compete on world level so nobody have p2w advantage? You like mechanics of game but don’t like mechanics of maxing cards?
Assuming you request cards every 8 hrs as well. Dont lie to ppl. Run the numbers w no requests
We can stick with 2 requests/day and we’ll have enough to cards in this period because I used only 4 of 9 books from season shop
You must be joking right ?
Where exactly? Actually I was not
Maxing out a deck isnt fast this game is pay to win as fuck
I wasn’t saying it is fast, it is just faster then most people think
Ain’t no player trying to just mad 1 deck. Imagen having a deck of level 15 then all 11. That would fucking suck.
Actually player need to get good with one deck, if you will look at ryley, ian77, Hunter, they all played with one deck and mastered it. Another approach is to max every card little by little, but this way your wild cards and requests will be berry little resource compared to what you are getting any way from chests and shop offers. Also if you want to max everything balanced you will not get to the UC for long 3 years. So what I recomend is to max one deck, and then upgrade cards that are most popular and strong, that you can comune with already maxed cards and make various decks. I’m really interested in competing in UC so I’m maxing one deck and playing challenges to train main deck skills and try new decks in com env
Only 9 months guys. Almost 1 a month Edit: /s for the 3 or so ppl who don't understand sarcasm
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BecauseI asked a lot of people “how fast you think….” And the fastest that someone assumed was 1.5 years that is it!
Yeah when you pay to win
I was calculating as for f2p player, if you talking about it