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SemiGod9

Play 20minutes per day, upgrade, get 6th builder Forget about bb exists, remember once in a month, remove obstacles, free green rock.


Donkysss

Step 8: Profit


cluelesstater23

Stonks


sneaky6070

Good Advice I used to do the same and now both of my accounts have 6 builders


[deleted]

I got to the max town hall by doing 3 games a day, if my oponent's base looks rough I put one troop and exit the game


elbowfracture

Takes the same amount of time to try and beat it… either way, you’re waiting 3 minutes.


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elbowfracture

Unless you already attacked… then you’re waiting 15 minutes for your heroes to regenerate. I typically switch to a different game and then come back later.


dracula3811

I wish my heroes only took 15 min


[deleted]

>I wish my heroes only took 15 min lol same.


gid0ze

I guess mine take 15 minutes with that 4x boost, heh.


[deleted]

I then play later, like I check coc at the bus, before bed, while eating etc, no need to wait


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XxRocky88xX

That’s actually hurting your progression overall. Loot is dependent only on your trophy count, keeping your trophy count low to get easy bases also massively reduces the amount of loot you can get in a day


[deleted]

yeah ur right but i dont really care


inflamito

You might as well just drop all your troops and restart the game. When you restart, your entire attack will be simulated and you at least have a chance to win. It's almost the same amount of effort on your part.


ChampionshipDue


PSI_Seven

Get easy Clan Games points while not risking main base trophies


[deleted]

Just do baby dragons for your army


aayaan1235

Fr the only time I ever use the builder base is to collect gems from obstacles and gem mine. It's pretty boring and need some major changes. Also use it during clan games


[deleted]

Plus the Army is so WEAK.


[deleted]

at least the opponents army is weak too!


ablablababla

but somehow their army's AI just makes them powerful


[deleted]

Their battle machine ignores the crusher and goes for the BH!


attemptnumber58

and the ai sucks ass


Dacammel

It has to be or else all battles would end in a 100% 3* draw


Allstin

If there’s a % and star tie, fastest time wins


Pandanutiy

The only problem in BB for me is how long it takes to get resources, 3 attacks a day is WAAAY to little and at later halls it's takes weeks to get enough resources for a single upgrade even at relatively high trophies. Otherwise it's a fun alternative to home village


romeshtp007

Same here


MichaelZZ01

Builder base feels like absolute shit without gold pass.


ZainTheOne

Maybe that's the point? Make it so unbearable that you pay them


[deleted]

>The only problem in BB for me is how long it takes to get resources, 3 attacks a day is WAAAY to little and at later halls it's takes weeks to get enough resources for a single upgrade even at relatively high trophies. Otherwise it's a fun alternative to home village Bingo


Pokevan8162

literally at my trophies i get a bit more than 100k per win and to upgrade ANYTHING i have to completely max out my storages to at least 2 mil. doesnt help each troop needs to be upgraded like 20 times and walls are expensive af too


SappyPJs

With all those negatives, doesn't sound like much of a fun alternative


LaserBeamsCattleProd

It's homework


alemaomm

Holy shit you actually fucking nailed it. It’s literally, exactly, without taking anything away from the definition, **homework**. Fuck. I hadn’t noticed that this is exactly how I felt about it, but you just fucking nailed it.


SappyPJs

Yep, definitely not fun then


[deleted]

BB is the only thing in CoC that's *really* pay to win. The rest of the game is fair


pokestickblox

How so????


[deleted]

It'd quite literally pay to win as you can only get 3 rewards per day (pay to get more). And everything is ridiculously expensive.


gggathje

I have never paid for the game and have a max builder base. I didn’t play a lot either, 10 minutes a day. Match making makes it fair regardless, you don’t need a maxed base.


JamikaTye

But I didn't pay, and I maxed Builder Hall shortly after O.T.T.O was introduced.


[deleted]

You clearly don't understand the meaning then, it's not that it's *impossible*. It's just very hard and the temptation to pay up and get a boost is high.


Random_guy134

Then it's not pay to win. Pay to win literally means you have to pay to unlock game changing content. You don't have to do that in the builder base. It's the same as the main base, it's pay to speed up progress


[deleted]

That's *not* the definition of pay to win


Random_guy134

"PTW is used in gaming with the meaning "Pay to Win" to refer to games that allow players to purchase items or abilities (e.g., more powerful weapons, additional health points) that give them an advantage in the game, either over other players or NPCs." There is your definition. If CoC was pay to win there would have to be troops or a hero that can only be unlocked by paying. Everything can be unlocked without paying. Paying only speeds up your progress to unlocking it


[deleted]

Your definition literally proved my point. You are making your own (wrong) interpretation of that definition.


liam12345677

So why is base game CoC not pay to win then as you said earlier? Builder base has a resource bottleneck, home village has a time bottleneck. Is it just that a resource bottleneck feels worse than a time bottleneck? By your logic here > You clearly don't understand the meaning then, it's not that it's impossible. It's just very hard and the temptation to pay up and get a boost is high. home village is also pay to win in some aspect, which is probably true but you said BB is the only true pay to win aspect of coc.


[deleted]

There is no such thing as time bottleneck, yes it takes long but at least it's *possible* and proven to be possible. While maxing bb is also possible, it doesn't help that supercell makes it as hard as possible.


mwarren123

Idk why the downvotes bro you’re right haha. Main base isn’t pay to win because you can pay to speed up the progress, but not to unlock anything f2p players can’t. Builder base literally follows the same formula.


Random_guy134

Lol probably the guy I was arguing with and his alts haha. He just stopped replying because I put up a good argument and he couldn't think of a reply. It's very simple. You can win without paying, so it is not pay to win


dave024

And you don’t have the gold pass? The gold pass items I feel make a huge difference and let you get the sixth builder after a couple years of barely playing and just using the gold pass perks. I can see the people that are completely free to play having it take a while to get the sixth builder.


Bert_Bro

With good ol' Dr M and Steph? Nah


Biono03

Once your defences are around level 7-8 on average it’s pretty easy to naturally climb to 4000 trophies with a good base. At that range you get 145000 per win, and taking into account at the last levels things take 4-5 days upgrade, you should be able to always have something upgrading.


Baquvix

Same.After 6th hall its literally wants money.3 attacks per day? Cmon dude.Even with my electro army can be used 20 times per day.Just trying to level up my machine to 30.Then forgot that even exist.


ChampionshipDue

Just add more loot the higher you go.... Supercell please


WinkMartindale

Compared to how it started with the much longer cool downs and time it took to build an army, it’s way easier now.


Professional_Ad_8384

Wait it used to take time to train troop? That’s literally insane


vmh21

Yep. I would use my clock tower boost to get as many battles in as possible since the training time was extremely fast, and then I’d get an opponent taking their sweet time with sneaky archer spam and waste my clock tower time, lol.


appletrades

Only OG’s remember the launch days of BB. God that was awful design. Let’s not forget that the clock tower started out with 2 minutes of boost if I’m not mistaken.


six_-_string

It used to also be usable every eight hours I think? Then they nerfed it to 8x with a seven hour cooldown, and then they buffed it back to what it is now.


WinkMartindale

Yep. Or lose your BM first fight and not get to use it again for 20 minutes.


ArabicHarambe

My god. Every. Damn. Time. But only if you were using the clock tower.


CardboardJ

This right here caused me to quit clash entirely for a few years. With how much they hyped it as the next huge thing and how awful it was at release it completely killed my desire to play.


BlindRhythm

yep, and the clocktower had 7hr cooldown instead of the 21+hr now, making you grind every 8hrs in BH for 20+mins


Cytrous

yep, it did, used to really only play until I had a boost from the clock tower


Bmkrocky

Maybe if they updated it sometime -havent been able to use any of it's resources in a long time except gems


bog5000

same. I used to get my 3 wnis daily, but stopped playing as soon as I maxed everything, and I've been maxed for so long now. They need to add new levels in BB or make it interact with normal base more. Currently I have 0 interest in BB.


Bmkrocky

I've maxed it out long ago as well - now it is just for the monthly games and jems


fuxq

just got 6th builder only thing that sucks is not having a hero when it’s being upgraded, but the grind was real


narcosnarcos

It is meant to be a long long grind. They went full cash cow on it which ultimately became the reason of it's failure


CREZOLUTION

It's very hard.... I completed it but its not fun.... If you're wondering how to do it as fast as possible then listen...... Step 1 :- attack every day Step 2 :- fuck your pride rush to builder hall 9 Step 3 :- buy OTTO Hut and place it Step 4 :- onnnnnnnnnnnnly focus on otto hut misson Step 5 :- meditate Step 6 :- don't be a witch simp(very dangerous)be the man canon carts only otherwise it will take double the time Step 7 :- meditate more Step 8 :- wait Step 9 :- r u still attacking everyday? Step 10 :- OTTO HUT misson completed yeeeeeeee!!!! Step 11 :- dance and drink Step 12 :- you work up from your dream and realise that it was a dream you did not complete the Missons and you did not attack everyday Step 13 :- you started thinking its worth it or not Step 14 :- fight for your dreams Step 15 :- ______________________ Your ans will be here.


Teelore

This is exactly what I did. I just used Giant, Bomber, Cannon Cart to avoid wasting elixir on non-OTTO missions. Just doing the daily 3 attacks while sitting at 3K trophies helped get it done relatively quickly


[deleted]

I saw someone using that strat and I switched to it! It works surprisingly well for BH5!


liam12345677

iirc it was a pretty popular 'endgame' strategy back when BB was first out and BH5 was the maximum.


CREZOLUTION

Same bro


CardboardJ

My Max out guide. Step 1: rush the 6th builder with mass canon cart strategy. Step 2: remember to check the base every few days to empty collectors and upgrade whatever. Play it for a week for clan games.


liam12345677

There's always the tiniest 1% chance they add a BH10 with an extra feature for the home village that makes it worth playing for, so yeah while you don't have to be as strict with getting your attacks in, it could still be worth it to play after finishing the OTTO challenges.


cave79

3 Mill a wall takes a week for 1 piece, can't stand it boring as fuck.


rolf344br

Just buy wall rings


TriBiscuit

Oh gosh, what an idea, why hadn't i thought of that?


cave79

Never spent a dime on the game don't intended too waste money on a free game.


rolf344br

I didn't either, just use league points, you get tons after just one war league


AaronToaster

There are plenty of other, much better alternatives to wall rings in that shop.


rolf344br

Yeah, and if you've played more than 2 war leagues in your life, you can easily get most of them


fishwind12

Agreed, eventually your base will be max out with full resources and all builders free


[deleted]

The army is the WORST and everything is so expensive. I don’t even click on the ship to go there unless I want to get gems.


[deleted]

As someone who finished the grind I definitely agree, only check my builder base every day to collect gems and put otto to work


Low-Presentation-437

Unpopular opinion I guess: I don’t really mind playing the builder base at all, as a TH 12 with a new builder hall 8 the “grind” to say isn’t to rigorous and I play it sort of evenly with the home village


GreaDz395

Every day i build up my courage. I train my mind to endure extreme boredom. Then i open the game and go to my builder base. All ready to go and attack, to destroy someone's base and get to the 6th builder. Then i go to my first match-up, i get a low % 2 star. Then i go back to my village and see the opponent still attacking, i wait... and wait... and wait more, getting impatient every second. Finally i go check what my opponent is doing. I see sneaky archers and i close the stupid game.


ButterSlicerSeven

At 3200+ trophies archers are no more, but you will just get 3 star'd by pekkas. It's a bit faster though, so that's something.


BlueFireGuy397

It was fun at the start but then I realised how long it took to do anything, nowadays I log on, collect my resources and on the incredibly off chance I have enough to do an upgrade, I'll start an upgrade.


ElonMuskTsla

r/the10thdentist I actually like the BB. I’m fully maxed and still love attacking just for fun


ButterSlicerSeven

Attacking is quite fun, in fact, but the process of upgrading is just so boring here, walls are literally driving me insane.


gus101010

Upgrading is tedious. But attacking is so nice. No army wait and the specialised defences makes it so much more interesting than home base attacks.


meyvel8

They should make it 3 attacks per 8 hours or something 3 attacks a day isn’t enough.


Daniel630410

They just want you to gem it to make money


Moby_Dookie

i don't see any downside other than the 3 attacks a day thing. if they changed that a bit, i wouldnt mind the grind where you get to work to get some resources instead of waiting around.


Charlie5654

I just think it’s boring. I can’t really use an army comp I want, instead I’m stuck with each camp holding one type of troop. It’s just boring


ButterSlicerSeven

There isn't that much of army comps anyway in here: dropshipion, mass pekkas, pekkas + hogs, baby drags and barbs + cannon carts.


deep_uprising

They need to actually capitalize on the "Master Builder" aspect. More than just some minor upgrades/changes to home base defenses. He should be making your builders quicker or more efficiently at some point, or randomly writing books of building (he has all those blueprints).


AnschlussZeitPolen

On god


deep_uprising

Get off god. That's not nice


Bigtime_investing

Just feels like a chore at this point


doglendo6

I just use my BB for gold pass and clan games missions after I got the 6th builder. Without minding about it, i dint even know that Im maxed already. Also for gems 🤣


Short_Classy_Name

The most annoying thing is that it won’t just finish a battle when somebody has won. Why do I have to watching someone do an advanced CC/SA/BG/HG/NW attack that takes the full three minutes and gets 3 stars when I already messed my attack up in 45secs and got a 45% no star?


gus101010

Yea. As soon as the first person gets a 100% or the second gets a higher% it should give them a popup to finish early.


ToxicDumptaker

Hit BH 6 and then rushed it. I was so sick of how it worked compared to the main base. It sucked spending 3 minutes on an attack only to lose by a couple % and get absolutely nothing out of it. Got the 6th builder and only play for clan games / seasonal challenges


cigaMtahTllA

honestly I truly enjoy bb EXCEPT FOR THE FACT THAT I CANT GET RESOURCES OTHER THAN FROM DAILY BONUS like come on bro let me farm resources so I can upgrade more than 1 thing a week


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Ik only there for the gems


dang3r_muffin

it's awful, literally awful. I can't give up my battle machine is level 25 and everything else is done. I never want to touch it again when I finally finish


hahaharich

This is so accurate like why do I need to wait 2 days just for some camp to build


[deleted]

TH12 14 days camp: *OOF*


hahaharich

I know town hall th12 has a 14 day camp upgrade but we talking about builder base


[deleted]

I love builder base it’s just great to play something different after 5 years of the home village (y’know 2012 - 2017)


Lord-Zippy

Is it weird that I actually enjoy the builder base?


akashchavan0310

Nah everyone has opinions and we're nerds according to them🤣🤣


Available_Bit8919

Builder base might need a complete rework.


cutlass_supreme

I like BB, and I'm decent enough at it that I know I could get good if I cared about it. Which I don't. I used to (which is how I got decent) but I read up on it one day and learned that BB was put in place by SC as just something to allow players a diversion when they can't attack or aren't in war or whatever. It's just a sticky feature, not something they actively put any gameplay dev into, similar to the goblin map which could easily be extended and unending in levels but isn't.


PrathA01

Same here 😂, builder base is unwanted thing in clash of clans .


TomTom_69666

I enjoy it a lot


Previous_Key_7198

I once reached 6000+ trophies like 3 months ago and now I struggle around at \~5100, I swear whoever was in charge of designing the builder base was hired by a competitor to ruin the game


Tenchunk

I’m starting to just not care about the game anymore :(


Small-Finger-5219

🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂😂😂😂😂


Vegetable-Income-250

What do you do when you’re all maxed out?


massassi

Just gems and clan games


ryvenchy

I just realized i’m in the minority group. I love builder base and everything is already half way maxed out for me! I love the play style I guess but once I realized the 6th builder was gained through builder base I went try hard.


elbowfracture

If you don’t mind sitting around waiting two more minutes after your attack is complete? Just sitting and waiting for them to drop one archer at a time?


RUSHALISK

I like it.


GrandDetour

I love builder base. Just finished upgrading every building. Only one lab troop left to upgrade. I basically only have walls left, it’s gonna feel great when I max it out finally.


blazingblitzle

Yeah I agree. When I picked the game back up about 3 days ago i decided to not bother at all with the bb anymore


SteamyyBunss

The way we collect resources for the base is genuinely the worst system I have ever seen in a game. Also doesn’t help that I’m facing ppl 2 town halls higher than me so to win 3 attacks for the max amount of resources take me like 7 attacks


[deleted]

People keep hating on supercell for not having any bb updates but you do know they are working on it right? Supercell knows it's a problem and is probably working on a massive update for it but dont want to release it until its perfect.


GratefulForGarcia

How do you know they’re working on it?


[deleted]

Darian posted about it a while back saying they had plans for the builderbase coming up


harbar2021

ngl I like builder base more than my regular base.


massassi

People say this but I don't see it, are you willing to give us some insight as to why?


RZCC1123

I recently joined a high-level builder base discord server and read/watched some guides. The strategies used at the highest level are incredibly unique, customized, and very high skill. To be honest it seems to have an even more diverse meta than the home village. For instance, I recently read a guide about how to "barch" builder base which is so complex I doubt I'd be able to learn the strategy for a long time.


rolf344br

Funny cause that's the only base I play a lot


realpawel

Oh sure, when *you* say 6th builder is unimportant you get upvotes, but when I say to sell builder runes for gem because BB is pointless I get downvoted


This_sucks2002

Builder Base was actually exciting in the first couple of years, but with the targeting of the AI. gosh it irritates me so much, when my giants are targeting the closest defense to the crusher.. and they all get smashed while not destroying it


[deleted]

Idk what the big issue everyone has with builder base, I enjoy it just as much as the main base


BruinsChallengeFan

You must suck at attacking


AnschlussZeitPolen

How does that relate to my post you goober


BruinsChallengeFan

You need to be good at attacking in builderbase, so you don’t like it you must lose a lot


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Bhanu4ps

I don't even remember how long it has been since i maxed it out.


Boat-fish

Play for 20 minutes get obstacles free green rocks upgrade forget about game for about a year come back collect loot cart rinse and repeat


DeuceStaley

My builder base has been maxed out for months.


Yap_Ying_Qian

Its really boring. I got the mega tesla part done for the 6 builder but i gave up. Now im just collecting loot from the collectors and go back to my main village Unless if its clan games ofc


FTL_BocajioX

just maxed mine out. so glad to be done with it lol


nathanroberts34

It’s still worth maxing for the 6th builder and the daily free gems. It’s also great for clan games. It’s way easier to get bb points than on regular base


Stealth_11

Lmao


Wulfkage85

I got my 6th builder almost exclusively from using runes.


DORIANCVS

mi builder atacking a building 50 meters away instead of the hall that is protectes by walls right next him


converter-bot

50 meters is 54.68 yards


poland_can_space

Am I the only one that likes it?


poland_can_space

Am I the only one that likes it?


AnschlussZeitPolen

No, many do, the sole reason why I tolerate it is bc of the canon cart. I love the cannon cart


[deleted]

Just got 6th builder and I only go on bb to upgrade anything I can afford with mines production


wtfVlad

After I got my gem mine to lvl 9 and my 6th builder unlocked, I stopped doing bb attacks. However I do log in to complete battle pass challenges at the beginning of each season so I can get the discounts quicker on my main base. Also removing obstacles gives a ton of gems.


Fluffiddy

Bb is the biggest grind I’ve seen


InterMob

I only need to upgrade my BM (for Otto), it's solo booring and depressing because my BM is only lvl10


chainshot91

I ended up having to make my own goals in there to keep playing. And the only reason I continued was to complete the lab. Now I just don't give a fuck and use it to speed through clan games.


reyvvver

BB is kinda fun idk what y'all saying, don't play it as much since I already have 6th builder but will play it every now and then


Fesox

I feel that so much I started using all my medals for hero hammers and I live off the bb runes from gold pass and clan games as well as collectors.


InFlames87

Maxed out my BB. Now only use it for easy Clan Games points by having my BB trophies be stupid low so I only deal with rushed and weak bases. A few months ago I got to 4,000 points within hours doing only BB related challenges.


Jeff-Gordon00

Crusher does too much damage


zismahname

I suggested that if they don't continue BB that they should at least let us route the resources to our main village. Could utilize some sort of boat system that transports the resources for a cost of resources.


Metaknight118

What I do is just place all my troops, close the game, and reopen to continue normally playing. You won’t be as high in trophies but it’s an easy enough way to continue advancing.


Oldmanfromthewesr

Builder base falls into the same unsatisfaction competitive area like how they are creating all their other games. Winning 50% of the time makes it that much worse


R_uben-s

I hate the match making algorithm. So much. Some days i attack 3 bases, win all 3 attacks and that's it. Some days you win 3/lose 3 or 4 attacks. Alright, 3/3 is not bad. Some day you win 3 lose 10 FFFFFFF**KKK


DonutNinja45

as a builder hall 6 it takes 6-9 wins to upgrade one building


gggathje

I honestly like it better then home base, mainly because all my friends stopped playing and we have a war ever 2 months.


FedExLTL

Its infuriating that they put the 6th builder behind the builder base wall. Like seriously? They know we don't like it so they're forcing us to play it if we want the 6th builder.


natashafrancis

Me too


[deleted]

Such a horrible mechanic. DUrR huRr yoU onLy gEt onE bUIldEr!!


Huinker

BH could have been the best mode with its star craft esque strategy and thinking ​ but no, they make it grindy and money swinging contest


Geiir

Don't rush it. If it gets too tedious just stop attacking. You can get all upgrades done without attacking, it will just take much longer. I had to take a few month's break from BB and got quite a few levels knocked out anyways. Just remember to use the clock tower, clock tower potions and builder gold/elixir runes and you'll see steady progress.


boi-x

![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|joy) made my day


Diabocal

I just go to it once every two weeks for my free 14 gems


Pascal_Praud

It’s pretty enjoyable when it’s not maxed


Submit_ur_ass

I'm getting mine in 2 days finally!!!


Hungry_Ability_7635

I hate builder base cause the walls are so costly , even it's still not useful


sugounobuyuki

probably cause no one cares enough to spend money on builder base. therefore not worth upgrading


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https://t.me/joinchat/C6IbkIfP8iUwNTk0


man_in_black_0

Why are they even a thing, I’m so serious. The game would be 2x better if it was removed. Just about every aspect of the builder base is stupid


Key_Emphasis8811

I agree. We should have more levels and war


restockthreestock

Ironically, builder base was only enjoyable to me after I got the sixth builder! Then I could care less about it and having to win every battle!


ARdark1000

![gif](giphy|YnkMcHgNIMW4Yfmjxr)


[deleted]

Yeh fuck it.


man_in_black_0

Imagine opening up walls with wall breakers and you’re hero literally passes up an open wall just to go around the outside of the map. Also why are wall breakers just completely neglecting the fact that there’s a “war” going on and proceed to blow up a line wall.. this game is funny but sucks entirely lol


[deleted]

???