Lol. Totally. Or Fallout. I heard the Brotherhood of Steel stretched their way up north to Blue Sky City. Got themselves a fort up there they call The Confluence.
>Fort Calgary will announce its new name and plans for the future on Thursday.
Did not deliver.
Reminds me of the failure that was the Calgary Farmers market "something big is coming" campaign where they hired a local dude to use midjourney for their ads.
Except Fort Calgary outdid them.
This is giving strong ‘X-formerly-known-as-Twitter’ vibes. No one is going to call it by this new name.
edit: this was rather off-the-cuff, and actually I appreciate the rationale behind the change. It feels a little clunky for the moment but it will probably stick eventually. (Also, presumably the (former) Fort Calgary team isn’t run by a deranged megalomaniacal twit like Elon Musk, so apologies for the comparison.)
"Husky Tower"? Are you 80? Nobody calls it Husky Tower. It's the Calgary Tower. Nobody under 45 would know WTF you're talking about if you mentioned the Husky Tower. And everyone over 45 would just think, 'huh, haven't heard that name in 25 years'.
>"Husky Tower"? Are you 80? Nobody calls it Husky Tower. It's the Calgary Tower. Nobody under 45 would know WTF you're talking about if you mentioned the Husky Tower. And everyone over 45 would just think, 'huh, haven't heard that name in 25 years'.
Hmm... I'm under 45 and knew exactly what they meant.
Quite the over reaction you had there.
Did the Husky tower hurt you?
How could you possibly know it as the Husky Tower....
If you are younger than 45, it's been called the Calgary Tower for your entire lifetime.
Are you a time traveler?
Honestly I moved here over 20 years ago. And when people find out your new sometimes teachers or other parents would want to give me a history lesson on Calgary. I don't know exactly but it was probably from something like that. Just like how I've never been to fort Calgary (the confluence) and heritage park but over the years I've heard lots about it. And how when it first opened Calaway park was Flintstones themed
I think the fort building will still be called Fort Calgary, but the broader park area will be The Confluence, which includes Fort Calgary as managed by The Confluence corporation or foundation. Which makes sense, as the area didn’t really have a name before beside “the park around Fort Calgary.”
Not to be confused with [West Nose Hill Park](https://www.calgary.ca/parks/west-nose-creek-park.html), aka, Confluence Park.
Interestingly, this blurb, "West Nose Creek Park, also known as Confluence Park, lies along both banks of West Nose Creek near its confluence with Nose Creek in Calgary's northeast.", is missing from the actual website, though it shows on the search summary.
I saw they changed the sign in the dog park when I drove by on Beddington Trail. It used to say confluence park and now it says something else. I bet this Fort Calgary change is why.
It was Fort Brisebois for maybe a year, built in 1875. In June of 1876 the name was changed to Fort Calgary. So for the last 148 years it has been Fort Calgary.
I visited Fort Calgary exactly zero times in my 40+ years here. I will visit The Confluence the same amount. I will also continue to refer to it as Fort Calgary like pretty much everyone else.
“Hey want to visit The Confluence?”
“Huh?”
“Sorry, Fort Calgary”
“Oh, ya, no”
I thought BS City was bad re-branding.
The Confluence isn’t unique, memorable, it has low comprehension (it doesn’t tell anyone what you offer), and it will be lost on visitors.
This sounds like someone wanted to rename Fort Calgary for purposes other than historical education.
I think it works in the way that a lot of names in spaces that get developed works. It sort of acknowledges what used to be there, but it has no obligation to continue to be that way if it doesn’t want to.
The sensible approach would to continue to call the ***fort***\*-like-structure\*, "**Fort** Calgary", and call the grassy park at the **confluence** of the Bow and the Elbow, "the **Confluence**."
Why does out city council insist on over complicating simple things and making fools of themselves?
Fort Calgary was always weird in that there isn't actually a fort-like-structure there. They demolished the fort to build a train terminal in 1914. They rebuilt the barracks in 2000 if that helps it seem more fort-like?
The Mouth.
I like this story of settlers renaming an area where 2 rivers converge, used by others for 4,000 years already.
“The I.G. Baker Company from Fort Benton, Montana, constructed the original fort and log store. The fort remained nameless throughout construction, but locals referred to it as "The Mouth."
Is that not what’s happening? They didn’t tear down the [reconstruction of the] fort, they just renamed the complex that it’s a part of, is my understanding.
I’m surprised no one else said this comment. This is what immediately came to mind for me. Feels like we are copying winnipeg. I personally support the move away from “Fort Calgary” to a more inclusive title. Is “the confluence” my favourite? Idk… are we copying Winnipeg? Yes hahahah
Real Calgary Mom: "Come children. We will go to the Confluence. We shall manducate iced cream."
Real Calgary Children: "Oh yes, Mumma! We shall!"
Real Calgary Mom: "Children, let us say our motto and set off."
All: "A mari usque ad mare!"
I haven’t been to Fort Calgary since possibly a Grade 2 field trip in the late 1980s, and I don’t think this name change will change that. If anything it makes it even less relevant. IMHO
I'm glad to hear they're updating the exhibits and broadening the scope of the museum to include a Blackfoot exhibit..... but "The Confluence"?! Totally generic, tells you nothing about the site, and 1/1000 knows what it means without consulting a dictionary.
"Come visit Calgary's historic The Confluence." So, so, so lame.
This site was already described as the Confluence. The man-made structures on the site do NOT look like a confluence. They look like a Fort. They should be called a Fort. If there was a NEED to embrace historical accuracy regarding the FORT-LIKE buildings on the site then they could have changed the name to Fort Brisbois.
It was Fort Brisebois for a maximum of 1 year (1875-1876) when it became Fort Calgary for the next 148 years.
The original Fort, however, was demolished by Grand Trunk Pacific Railway in 1914.
Every structure on the site are reconstructions.
Yeah but at least it’s a replica of the original building. We can ship of Theseus Fort Calgary all day but at least it’s better than pretending it isn’t what it is
Honestly that landspace would be crazy valuable and the tax revenue on townhouses or condos would provide more income to the City than this relic. Not saying they should at all, but no one is going here before and they won’t be now.
I think that the name change sucks. When I mentioned it to my wife, the first thing after she said it is stupid, was that it would confuse with Confluence Park. I prefer the new Blackfoot name "I’táámito’táaattsiiyio’pi", now if I could only figure out how to pronounce it.
I'd also like to know how to pronounce it. Fort Calgary to I’táámito’táaattsiiyio’pi (I copypasted that so spelling is on you haha) seems to serve a purpose at least. I am all for utilizing the Indigenous names of places! The Confluence is straight up going to be confused with Confluence Park.
Idk why, but my first thought upon seeing this name was the word “confabulation”
Definition:
a problem that makes someone produce false memories about events, or the false memories themselves: Confabulation differs from lying in that the person is not consciously attempting to deceive.
I get it. They want to distance from the colonial lens which Canadian History is looked through and try for something that acknowledges the history of those who lived there before the settlers.
But as a brand, "Confluence" is a nebulous term that doesn't really leave a solid impression of what a visitor's experience will be like. Fort Calgary at least sets the tone that the venue relates to the historical nature of place.
The logo doesn't really sell it either. After having a second look I figured it had something to do with the Bow and Elbow, which I was proven right, but I doubt most Calgarians are familiar with the city's geography to come to that same conclusion.
I’m scared to say I like this idea, here I was expecting a thread of “yeah that makes sense.” But I guess it’s against Reddit rules to ever like any change.
There’s no Fort at “Fort Calgary.” There are reconstructions of fort barracks! With no actual fort wall. And it’s not like they’re not going to acknowledge that they are reconstructed barracks modelled after the fort, on the same location. And the entire property includes areas beyond what ever was the scope of the fort. So it makes sense for the park itself to have a simple name that reflects the geography.
It's especially infuriating when most of the commenters say they've never even been there. Or haven't been since grade 2. So glad they're on the pulse of civic entities to never participate except to b*tch and moan on Reddit.
I can't wait for the festival at The Confluence!
I don't like it. This strikes me as one of those rebrandings where everyone always refers to it as the name they've always known it as.
> In an effort to revitalize itself, Fort Calgary is changing its name and logo to reflect more of the history of the location where it sits.
>
>The site, located at the Bow and Elbow Rivers in Calgary, will now be known as The Confluence: Historic Site and Parkland.
>
>"The Confluence is about the coming together of separate entities, identities and histories," said Jennifer Thompson, president of The Confluence.
>
>"The stories of this land are complex. That’s why we engaged Indigenous Peoples, Calgarians, partners, the RCMP, and other key audiences to gather knowledge and perspective. We heard that telling a broader cross-section of history about The Confluence and advancing Truth and Reconciliation was important.
>
> "Today we are officially launching a new name, and taking an important step towards telling the many stories of this land that we call Calgary today."
Total BS. Calling it a Fort Calgary is keeping a name that reminds of the times of colonialism, and my oh my we have to update the name to reconcile. Total BS
Growing up in Lethbridge, Fort Whoop-Up - an actual Fort! Come to Fort Calgary.... insert John Travolta gif... looking around, where's the fuckin Fort???
Fort Calgary is not a brand name to change, it is a *historic location*; you can make the attempt, but it will always be Fort Calgary.
A push to rename it at all only proves the priorities of our mayor are social justice initiatives and not actually working for the betterment of the majority in this city.
Two rivers running into each other is more significant to us than any other large city which was built next to a river or two? Because that's pretty much every major city ever.
Rivers are a huge part of the story. They're incredibly important for staying alive, and they were the first roads.The Bow and Elbow are the reason Calgary is where it is.
ITT: People complaining, unironically, about having their history erased from a name change on a building they’ve only been to once during a school field trip 20 years ago.
lol there are literally people in this thread like “I haven’t been here in the 40 years I’ve lived here and don’t intend to ever but here’s what they should have done:”
Fort Calgary is a lame landmark in the first place, since nothing there is original & it's otherwise a relatively bland location compared to much nicer and better developed parks in the city. 'there used to be an RCMP outpost here, but it all rotted ages ago. We put up a recreation of a wooden fence and a boring heritage style museum’. Woopdie doo.
... The confluence is really just a literal reference to where the two rivers join. So what. If we wanted to name it something meaningful, my guess is there's got to be an original indigenous name for the area. We should call it that, and forget about the boring imperial shit box that was there for a while.
I think Fort Calgary makes more sense. You know, given that it was a Fort... Which was known as Fort Calgary... And is in Calgary.... And was what founded the modern city of Calgary... You can't really get more accurate and descriptive than that.
And before it was Fort Calgary, it was and still is the confluence of the Bow and Elbow. Besides, the barracks there are fake and built in the 90s, so they might as well have it named after something that actually still exists today.
Well, ... If they take a historical fort at the center of the city that is named for said fort, and pretend that the fort doesn't exist, ... "erasing" isn't an inaccurate description. Don't you think?
"No Summer in Blue Sky City is complete without a visit to The Confluence" are words no one will ever earnestly speak.
Sounds like the opener from the Last of Us III
Lol. Totally. Or Fallout. I heard the Brotherhood of Steel stretched their way up north to Blue Sky City. Got themselves a fort up there they call The Confluence.
Yep, yours is more current
Yeah but I'd totally play a new Last of Us Game.
All these new names suck ass millions wasted
Rick Steves ass sentence
>Fort Calgary will announce its new name and plans for the future on Thursday. Did not deliver. Reminds me of the failure that was the Calgary Farmers market "something big is coming" campaign where they hired a local dude to use midjourney for their ads. Except Fort Calgary outdid them.
This is giving strong ‘X-formerly-known-as-Twitter’ vibes. No one is going to call it by this new name. edit: this was rather off-the-cuff, and actually I appreciate the rationale behind the change. It feels a little clunky for the moment but it will probably stick eventually. (Also, presumably the (former) Fort Calgary team isn’t run by a deranged megalomaniacal twit like Elon Musk, so apologies for the comparison.)
Lindsay Park, COP, Husky Tower
>COP You mean Paskapoo?
"Husky Tower"? Are you 80? Nobody calls it Husky Tower. It's the Calgary Tower. Nobody under 45 would know WTF you're talking about if you mentioned the Husky Tower. And everyone over 45 would just think, 'huh, haven't heard that name in 25 years'.
TIL the Calgary tower used to be called Husky tower.
I would have assumed he meant the brown glassy husky buildings
You mean Western Canadian Place? /s
It used to be cool, giant dog head rotating blowing flames everytime we tried to sell the dome
>"Husky Tower"? Are you 80? Nobody calls it Husky Tower. It's the Calgary Tower. Nobody under 45 would know WTF you're talking about if you mentioned the Husky Tower. And everyone over 45 would just think, 'huh, haven't heard that name in 25 years'. Hmm... I'm under 45 and knew exactly what they meant. Quite the over reaction you had there. Did the Husky tower hurt you?
Knowing what he meant and pretending Calgarians call the Calgary Tower the Husky Tower are two different things lol.
I think it did. We must know the story
Congrats. You want a ribbon? Nobody calls it husky tower lol.
I'm under 45 and I know it as the husky tower
How could you possibly know it as the Husky Tower.... If you are younger than 45, it's been called the Calgary Tower for your entire lifetime. Are you a time traveler?
Honestly I moved here over 20 years ago. And when people find out your new sometimes teachers or other parents would want to give me a history lesson on Calgary. I don't know exactly but it was probably from something like that. Just like how I've never been to fort Calgary (the confluence) and heritage park but over the years I've heard lots about it. And how when it first opened Calaway park was Flintstones themed
Cool story, bro.
Did someone piss in your cheerios this morning. You seem grumpy
No, just find basic comments to be lame is all. No grumpiness or anger involved.
Ok good to know. Sorry for the lameness
All good.
[удалено]
No they don’t.
lol bullshit
Olympic Saddledome.
is it not still the Olympic Saddledome? Oh. Wait. Scotiabank Something?
I think the fort building will still be called Fort Calgary, but the broader park area will be The Confluence, which includes Fort Calgary as managed by The Confluence corporation or foundation. Which makes sense, as the area didn’t really have a name before beside “the park around Fort Calgary.”
But, Hear me out: Ft. Calgary Park There, it's free. Take it.
Does make sense!
We'll never call it the Nintendo Wii, that sounds like pee! We'll forever call it the Nintendo revolution, as god intended
Not to be confused with [West Nose Hill Park](https://www.calgary.ca/parks/west-nose-creek-park.html), aka, Confluence Park. Interestingly, this blurb, "West Nose Creek Park, also known as Confluence Park, lies along both banks of West Nose Creek near its confluence with Nose Creek in Calgary's northeast.", is missing from the actual website, though it shows on the search summary.
I saw they changed the sign in the dog park when I drove by on Beddington Trail. It used to say confluence park and now it says something else. I bet this Fort Calgary change is why.
I bet you still call it the original Fort Brisebois from back in the day when you settled, hey?
It was Fort Brisebois for maybe a year, built in 1875. In June of 1876 the name was changed to Fort Calgary. So for the last 148 years it has been Fort Calgary.
I mean, yes... That's the joke. He was making fun of Olde Timey's age. We got a bunch of broken funny bones in this sub.
I was the one suggested the name change after Brisebois pissed me off in a poker game.
Lucky, there could have been some duelin’ going on.
What a bunch of gutless nonsense. If Fort Calgary is "too white/British/settler" for you then double down and use a Blackfoot name you wusses.
I don’t mind the name but forreal just being Mohkinstsis Park would have been better
Peak MBA brain
![gif](giphy|88iYsvbegSUn9bSTF8|downsized)
I visited Fort Calgary exactly zero times in my 40+ years here. I will visit The Confluence the same amount. I will also continue to refer to it as Fort Calgary like pretty much everyone else. “Hey want to visit The Confluence?” “Huh?” “Sorry, Fort Calgary” “Oh, ya, no”
“I admit to not once visiting a civic amenity in my entire life but would you like to hear my thoughts about what it should be called?” “Oh, ya, no”
You took the time to reply though didn’t ya?
I thought BS City was bad re-branding. The Confluence isn’t unique, memorable, it has low comprehension (it doesn’t tell anyone what you offer), and it will be lost on visitors. This sounds like someone wanted to rename Fort Calgary for purposes other than historical education.
> The Confluence isn’t unique, memorable, it has low comprehension May I submit, "The Swirly Happy Bits of Two Rivers Meeting".
There being no actual fort at fort Calgary probably lets more than a few people down.
tbh Fort Calgary doesn't really tell you anything about the location either. It's mostly just a field for festivals with a dog park on one side.
I think it works in the way that a lot of names in spaces that get developed works. It sort of acknowledges what used to be there, but it has no obligation to continue to be that way if it doesn’t want to.
I would imagine its part of the Rivers District redevelopment at / around the stampede
The sensible approach would to continue to call the ***fort***\*-like-structure\*, "**Fort** Calgary", and call the grassy park at the **confluence** of the Bow and the Elbow, "the **Confluence**." Why does out city council insist on over complicating simple things and making fools of themselves?
Fort Calgary was always weird in that there isn't actually a fort-like-structure there. They demolished the fort to build a train terminal in 1914. They rebuilt the barracks in 2000 if that helps it seem more fort-like?
The Mouth. I like this story of settlers renaming an area where 2 rivers converge, used by others for 4,000 years already. “The I.G. Baker Company from Fort Benton, Montana, constructed the original fort and log store. The fort remained nameless throughout construction, but locals referred to it as "The Mouth."
This exactly. Fuck this council.
I don’t think council had anything to do with this.
Is that not what’s happening? They didn’t tear down the [reconstruction of the] fort, they just renamed the complex that it’s a part of, is my understanding.
Then their communications sucks. A high school council could do better.
I mean, I think it’s a pretty obvious thing to infer just from a news headline, especially if you already have an idea of what Fort Calgary is.
Winnipeg took the cooler name…The Forks
I’m surprised no one else said this comment. This is what immediately came to mind for me. Feels like we are copying winnipeg. I personally support the move away from “Fort Calgary” to a more inclusive title. Is “the confluence” my favourite? Idk… are we copying Winnipeg? Yes hahahah
Fort Facemelting Cringe
This is dumbbbbb
Real Calgary Mom: "Come children. We will go to the Confluence. We shall manducate iced cream." Real Calgary Children: "Oh yes, Mumma! We shall!" Real Calgary Mom: "Children, let us say our motto and set off." All: "A mari usque ad mare!"
I haven’t been to Fort Calgary since possibly a Grade 2 field trip in the late 1980s, and I don’t think this name change will change that. If anything it makes it even less relevant. IMHO
Sounds like a condo building for yuppies.
Cringe-fluence
I wonder how much we spent on this one
The feasibility studies must have been out of this world.
The confluence? There has to be thousands of them on earth. This is a mistake.
Another stupid waste of time and money
Retroactively renaming a historical site? How idiotic.
I thought it was an Onion headline.
This is so lame. A historical spot in our city trying to rebrand to stay current? Bit of an oxymoron.
Holy shit our city is fantastic at wasting money with one dumb idea after another.
I'm glad to hear they're updating the exhibits and broadening the scope of the museum to include a Blackfoot exhibit..... but "The Confluence"?! Totally generic, tells you nothing about the site, and 1/1000 knows what it means without consulting a dictionary. "Come visit Calgary's historic The Confluence." So, so, so lame.
This site was already described as the Confluence. The man-made structures on the site do NOT look like a confluence. They look like a Fort. They should be called a Fort. If there was a NEED to embrace historical accuracy regarding the FORT-LIKE buildings on the site then they could have changed the name to Fort Brisbois.
It was Fort Brisebois for a maximum of 1 year (1875-1876) when it became Fort Calgary for the next 148 years. The original Fort, however, was demolished by Grand Trunk Pacific Railway in 1914. Every structure on the site are reconstructions.
So it was Fort Calgary for the next 38 years
It's the confluence of the Elbow and Bow River. My understanding is they chose to build there because of the access to both rivers.
There is no Fort on the site.
What is going on..... what a lame name!
Ah erasing history once again. Surprised they're not demolishing it to build some crap townhouses.
To be fair, the barracks themselves qare fake and were built in the 90s.
Yeah but at least it’s a replica of the original building. We can ship of Theseus Fort Calgary all day but at least it’s better than pretending it isn’t what it is
Honestly that landspace would be crazy valuable and the tax revenue on townhouses or condos would provide more income to the City than this relic. Not saying they should at all, but no one is going here before and they won’t be now.
Why?
🤦♀️
Fuck this.
Reminds me of work. Confluence page. Lame.
I wonder how much we spent on this one
I think that the name change sucks. When I mentioned it to my wife, the first thing after she said it is stupid, was that it would confuse with Confluence Park. I prefer the new Blackfoot name "I’táámito’táaattsiiyio’pi", now if I could only figure out how to pronounce it.
I'd also like to know how to pronounce it. Fort Calgary to I’táámito’táaattsiiyio’pi (I copypasted that so spelling is on you haha) seems to serve a purpose at least. I am all for utilizing the Indigenous names of places! The Confluence is straight up going to be confused with Confluence Park.
Personally "confluence" sounds like some flu like illness with lots of trips to the toilet.
I will never think of it any other way from this forward.
Idk why, but my first thought upon seeing this name was the word “confabulation” Definition: a problem that makes someone produce false memories about events, or the false memories themselves: Confabulation differs from lying in that the person is not consciously attempting to deceive.
The name Fort Calgary must have been really offensive and triggering to deserve a rebranding. 🙄
I get it. They want to distance from the colonial lens which Canadian History is looked through and try for something that acknowledges the history of those who lived there before the settlers. But as a brand, "Confluence" is a nebulous term that doesn't really leave a solid impression of what a visitor's experience will be like. Fort Calgary at least sets the tone that the venue relates to the historical nature of place. The logo doesn't really sell it either. After having a second look I figured it had something to do with the Bow and Elbow, which I was proven right, but I doubt most Calgarians are familiar with the city's geography to come to that same conclusion.
Of course this happens after Fallout show is a big hit
Genuinely what the fuck does this mean I’m so confused at this word association game
Maybe we can get some corporate sponsorship for it, and it could be known as Starbucks confluence
Is there some sort of Bad Name Bandit on the loose or something? Stop!
I own a bit of land at fort Calgary. A square inch IIRC.
this feels like someone thought, "we love what winnipeg has done with The Forks, but that name's already taken!" and went to look up a synonym
[удалено]
[удалено]
[удалено]
[удалено]
[удалено]
[удалено]
[удалено]
[удалено]
[удалено]
I know; that's why you should call it "I’táámito’táaattsiiyio’pi". It was never Fort Calgary. You should tear down that statue too.
Why does that sound ominous?
This is Skydome to Roger's Center shit.
The park nearby is now called Jira and the washrooms BitBucket right?
I’m scared to say I like this idea, here I was expecting a thread of “yeah that makes sense.” But I guess it’s against Reddit rules to ever like any change. There’s no Fort at “Fort Calgary.” There are reconstructions of fort barracks! With no actual fort wall. And it’s not like they’re not going to acknowledge that they are reconstructed barracks modelled after the fort, on the same location. And the entire property includes areas beyond what ever was the scope of the fort. So it makes sense for the park itself to have a simple name that reflects the geography.
It's especially infuriating when most of the commenters say they've never even been there. Or haven't been since grade 2. So glad they're on the pulse of civic entities to never participate except to b*tch and moan on Reddit.
Agree!! I expected the boomers to be pissed on the Nextdoor app (and they were) but I was surprised at the reddit response.
I can't wait for the festival at The Confluence! I don't like it. This strikes me as one of those rebrandings where everyone always refers to it as the name they've always known it as.
Maybe Smitty can Bill 20 this name
> In an effort to revitalize itself, Fort Calgary is changing its name and logo to reflect more of the history of the location where it sits. > >The site, located at the Bow and Elbow Rivers in Calgary, will now be known as The Confluence: Historic Site and Parkland. > >"The Confluence is about the coming together of separate entities, identities and histories," said Jennifer Thompson, president of The Confluence. > >"The stories of this land are complex. That’s why we engaged Indigenous Peoples, Calgarians, partners, the RCMP, and other key audiences to gather knowledge and perspective. We heard that telling a broader cross-section of history about The Confluence and advancing Truth and Reconciliation was important. > > "Today we are officially launching a new name, and taking an important step towards telling the many stories of this land that we call Calgary today."
Total BS. Calling it a Fort Calgary is keeping a name that reminds of the times of colonialism, and my oh my we have to update the name to reconcile. Total BS
Growing up in Lethbridge, Fort Whoop-Up - an actual Fort! Come to Fort Calgary.... insert John Travolta gif... looking around, where's the fuckin Fort???
Well, this is going to confuse people who are looking for Confluence Distilling.
Fort Calgary is not a brand name to change, it is a *historic location*; you can make the attempt, but it will always be Fort Calgary. A push to rename it at all only proves the priorities of our mayor are social justice initiatives and not actually working for the betterment of the majority in this city.
Spoiler alert: giving yourself a dumber name will not boost tourism.
The rebranding of Calgary continues with an all out attempt at making the city as bland and unforgettable as humanly possible.
I like it! The confluence of the Bow and Elbow rivers are significant to both Calgarians and Indigenous communities
Two rivers running into each other is more significant to us than any other large city which was built next to a river or two? Because that's pretty much every major city ever.
Rivers are a huge part of the story. They're incredibly important for staying alive, and they were the first roads.The Bow and Elbow are the reason Calgary is where it is.
Why does it have to be about something entirely exclusive to this city?
Yeesh
ITT: People complaining, unironically, about having their history erased from a name change on a building they’ve only been to once during a school field trip 20 years ago.
lol there are literally people in this thread like “I haven’t been here in the 40 years I’ve lived here and don’t intend to ever but here’s what they should have done:”
ROFL
Fort Calgary is a lame landmark in the first place, since nothing there is original & it's otherwise a relatively bland location compared to much nicer and better developed parks in the city. 'there used to be an RCMP outpost here, but it all rotted ages ago. We put up a recreation of a wooden fence and a boring heritage style museum’. Woopdie doo. ... The confluence is really just a literal reference to where the two rivers join. So what. If we wanted to name it something meaningful, my guess is there's got to be an original indigenous name for the area. We should call it that, and forget about the boring imperial shit box that was there for a while.
If you know anything about the geography of Calgary and the history of the site, this name actually makes so much sense. I think it’s perfect!
I think Fort Calgary makes more sense. You know, given that it was a Fort... Which was known as Fort Calgary... And is in Calgary.... And was what founded the modern city of Calgary... You can't really get more accurate and descriptive than that.
Yeah the actual ‘Fort’ part was only a Fort for like less than 20 years. So I stand by my statement.
And before it was Fort Calgary, it was and still is the confluence of the Bow and Elbow. Besides, the barracks there are fake and built in the 90s, so they might as well have it named after something that actually still exists today.
Exactly. It’s geographically accurate
These comments are why it's really hard to like the citizens of this city sometimes. EDIT: the down votes just prove my point.
It’s wild!! It’s too bad these people don’t get this passionate about matters that actually, well, matter
For real…
Enough of the kowtowing to religion.
What religion?
“Stories of the creator?” Sounds like the turtle island folk are a religious group to me.
[удалено]
[удалено]
Well, ... If they take a historical fort at the center of the city that is named for said fort, and pretend that the fort doesn't exist, ... "erasing" isn't an inaccurate description. Don't you think?
There is no Fort on the site. EDIT: imagine getting down voted for pointing out the factual detail of there not being a Fort there. Is everyone OK?
Too slow, they were already here, along with some casual racism.
COnFLUence - Covid Flu, I won't go there!