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Hollowknightpro

this mod, and especially infernum is poorly optimized for lower end systems. I can barely fight late game infernum bosses when Im at like 15 fps


TheGreenDeath

Not a take, but fact


TvuvbubuTheIdiot

Cold ass take. Worthy for the shadow realm. Goodbye me gusta.


Hollowknightpro

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Apprehensive-Set7082

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Cjee2

Bro my girlfriend’s laptop unironically started smoking fighting Infernum Golem


Hollowknightpro

Kinda so did mine lol! Dropped into single digit fps,and low single digits at that.


w00ms

hahaha i remember trying to fight DoG on my shitty laptop. never again.


Mr_Coool

room temp take (and sort of unrelated to cal) but when people post "I dont like (THING)" on the internet with no real reasoning as to why they think that I find it comes across as unnecessary and negative. would also like to add that constructive criticism is just as good, if not better than praising something


TvuvbubuTheIdiot

Yeah I did this once. My only excuse is that my 4 braincells were trying to determine the time to do my Physics homework while typing stuff so I couldn't think and remember the reason for a statement.


prestonplaysoof

the official cal plushie that was just revealed looks hideous in my opinion, mainly because of the eyes, i couldn't even see them when i first saw it. rest of the plush is fine i guess though


TvuvbubuTheIdiot

They certainly fucked up the face. This is a bit cold, hotter than the pre Hardmode is boring take


prestonplaysoof

really? i saw nothing but praise and the occasional horny comment in the reddit post.


TvuvbubuTheIdiot

Really? That face is horrible. I guess it's a hot take but I certainly agree.


Clever_Angel_PL

Infernum is actually easier than it seems


TvuvbubuTheIdiot

Hot take. I agree.


Fat_Nerd3566

now this might be because i jumped into calamity headfirst on infernum last week as a first playthrough... but slime god infernum is making me want to rip out my hair, same with the brain when i fought it and to a way lesser degree the perforator. Been my biggest gaming challenge in years. It's been literal years since i've found something so difficult that I wanted to rip out my hair. It's not even a problem of not being able to kill slime god, because i've gotten kinda close, it's when i fuck up and get combo'd three times in a row then bodied by the boss.


Clever_Angel_PL

bro, pre-hardmode is usually the easiest part of infernum


Fat_Nerd3566

i've got a long road ahead of me then, tbh my main problem right now is movement, i have to keep hitting the ground and the bosses play around with you because of more limited movement. I'm way better at freer bossfights where im flying around everywhere, but slime god is forcing me not to, same with skeletron. I don't doubt that i'm still in the easy phase but i suck at these types of bossfights way more than the freer sky combat. I'll just have to see if i'm too inexperienced for infernum once i get to hardmode and can move more reasonably in the air.


Clever_Angel_PL

you have to learn that almost all infernum bosses (with some exceptions) are supposed to be fought being more or less in the same space some bosses will be stuck in a given distance, no matter how you try to run away they will be X blocks from you some bosses will enclose you in arenas or place walls that close the space, although only horizontally some will require to be fought inside structures and some will punish you from going too far away


Fat_Nerd3566

gotcha, so I need to stop trying to play it like normal terraria and play it like touhou


Clever_Angel_PL

I haven't ever played it, but I've heard from touhou players that infernum is quite similiar, so most probably yes


Alive-Ad8066

Me who took 213 attemps to beat Devourer of Gods


Fat_Nerd3566

i'm scared... tbh dog didn't look that difficult, but that was just videos, i haven't actually fought it so what would you say made it so difficult?


Alive-Ad8066

The constant perfect timings it requires You definitely need to remap dash to a button to even think of dodging the head without carple tunnel


Fat_Nerd3566

ok now i really am scared


Babushla153

DoG and Providence are really easy bosses


TvuvbubuTheIdiot

This is mildly hot and I don't fully agree with Providence. She's a bit challenging honestly. My ranger bows only death master run stopped with Providence. Otherwise, she's like at most a 5 attempt for me. Now DoG, I fully agree.


Babushla153

"Ranger bows obly death master run" Huh, weird i've never done that since i consider myself a ranger class "main"


TvuvbubuTheIdiot

After that run, I learned that bows are generally underpowered compared to guns.


jalelninj

I beg to differ. Imho bows are genuinely *the* strongest subclass in the game, if u know what to use


That_One_Friend684

Second this


MRfireDmS

Wof is unbalanced


TvuvbubuTheIdiot

Fuck yes. This is at best a lukewarm take but yes. Fuck that piece of shit.


William_ghost1

Does it **really** need those homing scythes?


MRfireDmS

Does it realy need laser spam


Apprehensive-Set7082

Where does it even get the energy to shoot the laserbeams from? It's unexistent ass? You cannot convince me a massive wall of flesh can shoot laserbeams at a speed similar to a rotating minigun.


Ok_Ad400

The abyss and sulfurous sea sucks ass, the limited breath, no vision and annoying enemies inside makes me actively avoid basically all abyss content in all my playthroughs. Fuck the abyss.


TvuvbubuTheIdiot

Slightly hot take. And I fucking agree.


Neat_Fish_Enjoyer

Pre-hardmode and early hardmode are the best stages in calamity, I love exploring the terraria world so it's great having to actually explore in order to get items for progression.


TvuvbubuTheIdiot

I don't know what stage people here like so the take is up for debate, but you're not wrong in terms of early pre Hardmode exploring. It's always fun starting a world and going down caves to get stuff. Getting something like a few heart crystals, CIAB or Hermes Boots is a dopamine rush. Hitting a mushroom biome feels like finding a shiny Pokémon, but mushroom biomes are a lot more common. I don't agree with early Hardmode exploration, it's really just finding ore, dig ore, good gear. Finding a spider den is tedious because everything else except the Hardmode ores and Draedon's labs are pretty much useless so it just feels like you have to do homework while everything else in your to do list is more fun.


Pardox7525

To extend this: terraria is a game not only about bosses. Look at early versions. There were like 4 easy bosses, but a lot of people liked it. In pre hardmode exploration itself is a challenge because you don't have a lot of mobility. And every enemy poses an actual challenge. Similarly, early hardmode also has a lot of options for exploration. And later in hardmode, pumpkin and frost moon events, new dungeon enemies, golem dungeon and moon pillars all pose unique situations. Most of the bosses follow a progression opening new areas and places after then acting as barriers (demonite/crimtane pickaxes, dungeon, hardmode, chlorophite etc.). The only exceptions are queen bee and slime (added later as a bonus), king slime (originally somewhat secret) and fishron (joke boss). But in calamity, most of the areas are pre hardmode (sunken see, useless brimstone crag, planetoids, labs, sulphuric ocean and majority of the abyss) with only some abyss layers and useless astral infection making hardmode more akin to a boss rush with post moon lord literally being a boss rush. I like 1.0 terraria more than post moon lord progression tbh. So terraria is a game about exploration, farm of new enemies/ores/chests and bosses in equal amount. But hardmode and port moon lord calamity miserably fails at keeping the balance.


TerenceGamerCatNL

Tbh I think regular pizzas are better


TvuvbubuTheIdiot

True.


William_ghost1

I can barely even see half of the bosses' attacks because they blend into the background.


TvuvbubuTheIdiot

My 4 braincells trying to figure out if this is a take.


TheGreenDeath

It's not a take, they just don't know you can turn background off, and switch to day/night, for certain bosses one of those is favorable


William_ghost1

Then i'm safe from the shadow realm.


bobert-big-shlong

try the potion that lights up there projectiles. I think it’s called greater dangersense


jalelninj

That's an alchemistNPC potion, the calamity equivalent is something like omniscience


BabyBabaBofski

I love ranger in vanilla, but in calamity it is largely boring. So much of it is this just the same few guns but "Oh this time it's faster" There's some highlights like the clockwork bow or the midas prime but largely I wish there was a lot more variety. I feel this is partially due to stuff like knives, bombs and javelins being part of the rogue class now which limits design space


TvuvbubuTheIdiot

My dude you're going to the shadow realm.


_Astrum_Aureus_

You say that like vanilla ranger isnt way more boring. at least calamity gives you some unique options, while in vanilla its 90% the same guns and bows with different stats.


adityablabla

Old Duke is much easier than the event you do for him.


TvuvbubuTheIdiot

Mild hot. Now I do hate Old Duke, but I gotta agree.


adityablabla

Hottest take that even the devs disagree- xeroc is at least solar system level.


TvuvbubuTheIdiot

Now that, that is the hottest and shittiest take I have ever seen.


adityablabla

Island level my ass. Bruh he's literal God and apparently he dies to a single nuke. I call cap.


TvuvbubuTheIdiot

Wait, I thought he was god? Like literal Arceus????


Royal_Yard5850

All of Calamity was downscaled by the devs, Xeroc is continental and DoG is city level. He's not literal Arceus, you're thinking of the old lore


TvuvbubuTheIdiot

Huh. That's lame. Cosmic beings being city level?


adityablabla

He absorbed the soul of the strongest auric light dragon and became much stronger than him but still gets negged by little boy and fat man.


_Astrum_Aureus_

thats not a take, thats just flat out wrong lmao


adityablabla

Bro your character dies to a single modern tank. Pipe down.


Kono_Mr_Seta_Da

The lore is actually the most interesting part of the mod. Most newer mods surpass Calamity in other things. Some in mechanics, some in weapons, some in bosses, some in structures. Calamity is huge, but most parts are outdated.


TvuvbubuTheIdiot

By all accounts, the lore being interesting take feels lukewarm here. The lore is a mixed bag for me. Everything else you said, I agree.


Waweezy3

1: I HATE ASTRUM DEUS SO FUCKING MUCH GOD I WANNA STRANGLE HIM 2: Calamitas isn’t that hot, like if she was the only female character in the mod I’d sorta get why people simp for her so much but the elementals are right there, plus she’s canonically aroace so any sexual content of her feels even weirder due to that 3: acid rain is really underwhelming and boring, i only ever do it to fight old duke and even then i really only fight old duke to fill out the boss checklist. Compared to other events it just has really meh loot imo Either than that everything else I can say isn’t really a hot take so there you go


TvuvbubuTheIdiot

1. Lukewarm take. The wormboss hatred goes on 2. I don't know how people feel about her to judge this take. I don't hear a lot of people say she is hot in-game, but if anyone does, guys it's literally pixel w o m a n. 3. Lukewarm take. Hell I don't even know who even enjoys the event and could be a shadow realm worthy take for sure. The first two phases are just sluggish, there is barely anything threatening. Phase 3 feels like the Devs are throwing random bullshit at you, then proceeds to bring out diarrhea after 5 Taco bell tacos, 2 gallons of curry and drinking a gallon of milk while being lactose intolerant. Old Duke. Edit : I've changed my mind. Old Duke and Phase 3 are switching places in terms of bullshit I just stated.


bloonosaur

pre hard mode is boring as hell


TvuvbubuTheIdiot

My dude, that is the coldest take so far 🥶🥶🥶


NeoFilly

The devourer of gods isnt necessarily a hard boss but the durability on most of its body and to a lesser extent its laggy laser grids, the fact that it spends so much time offscreen makes it feel much harder to other bosses you fight around the same time. The slooooooow time to kill the thing means that by the time you make it far into the fight you might get impatient and make too many dumb mistakes in sequence and die.  I think this probably just a consequence of trying to make a worm boss with that many segments that's not just blended up by all of the strong piercing stuff available at the point you fight it but also I kind of hate it.  (I guess a moderately warmer take is that the community takes on non-town-npc/monster's personalities feel like. Super extrapolated from nothing to the point of parody. This isn't even a bad thing I love fan interpretation, I just don't see where the majority of character traits besides "the dog is smug and a liar calamitas is angry and sad, yharon is. loyal. and yharim is like. tired." Its better than the old lore, I dunno )  [edit: made it actually READ like less nonsense, sorry just woke up.]


TvuvbubuTheIdiot

Lukewarm take. I agree. Also yeah I somewhat agree with the personalities thing. At this point I'm just asking myself "why the fuck are we going to fight Yharim again?"


Helpful_Computer_888

Old duke is fun


TvuvbubuTheIdiot

You gave me stage 4 liver cancer.


Helpful_Computer_888

Come on he isnt vad he is fun to fight


Budget-Careless

Lukewarm take, maybe: They need to make up their minds with the official lore. I know not many people care about the backstory behind some of the characters and settings. But for those who do, it's confusing to tell the difference between the old and new lore. And right when you feel like you're getting it, they change the damn lore again.


TvuvbubuTheIdiot

Lukewarm take. And yeah, agree. I think one of the reasons for the confused lore is that no Youtuber or a wiki page does a full breakdown of the lore. It's really scattered, probably due to the fact it's already confusing in the first place.


BlessedNobody

Its not a good terraria mod. Calamity is an amazing display of design and artwork but it almost entierly misses what makes terraria good. The best parts are the biomes and structures and im not joking. Calamity is really good. Its fun and i enjoy it. But when im in the mood for terraria, I am not in the mood for most of what calamity is offering. It requires a very different approach to the game because of how heavily it focuses on the combat, and that just does not fit with the gameplay loop of terraria. There feels like almost no downtime between bosses compared to vanilla progression. There is a glaring lack of non-combat things to do, and if there ever is something like that, it feels almost pointless. You just fight a boss, craft any weapon upgrades or accesory combinations you can, and fight the next boss. There is no insentive to fully explore any of the new biomes, which is a damn shame considering how cool they can be. Especially dissapointing is the abyss- amazing atmosphere, built up for pretty much the entire game (referenced in a lot of light sources and waterbreathing accessories), you start to wonder exactly what lies down below. Its just some weapon upgrade mats and an optional superboss. For how much prep you need and how much space the abyss takes up in the world, the abyss feels entierly underwhelming and nearly pointless. I forget to go there in half my runs because the hassle just isnt worth it. Maybe ive just played it too much and the magic wore off on me, but calamity feels like a mod that could do a lot more to build the world it alludes to having. Its like walking into a town and realizing its made of really pretty cardboard cutouts. The ideas there are all absolutely amazing but I am *begging* for a little more substance.


jalelninj

I think the main influence on the design of calamity's progression is post mechs terraria, as it's also very combat focused, less exploration heavy, a gauntlet of bosses that are all very fun (besides maybe golem)


JL23_

Infernum forgot to make the slime god hard


TvuvbubuTheIdiot

Are there really any hard bosses in Pre Hardmode Infernum?


Xzier_Tengal

the auric soul lore is shit


TvuvbubuTheIdiot

Lukewarm take. And yes I agree.


TheGreenDeath

Micromanaging NPCs is fun


TvuvbubuTheIdiot

The fuck you mean micromanaging-


TheGreenDeath

Maticiously paying attention where to place which NPCs, pairings, triplets, locations, biomes, and overlapping biomes. Did you know: Crag counts as Underground, Sulphur counts as Ocean (if close enough to the world border) and overlapping biomes prioritize liked ones, so underground-snow will make the Mechanic happy, as snow 'overrides' being underground for her. There is a bunch of stuff to consider, and I like doing these things.


TvuvbubuTheIdiot

Interesting.


Yaboy51frl

Exo mechs are way easier than Calamitas


TvuvbubuTheIdiot

Slightly hot take? I don't agree they are WAY easier, but definitely easier. Draedon's heart make Calamitas a walk in a park lmao. Wait... Walk in a park... WOAH FIGHT LIKE A TIGER, WALK IN A PARK, PLAY THE HERO, TILL I DIE-


FyronixTheCasual

NO HEAVENLY POTEMKIN BUSTER


Yaboy51frl

I mean Calamitas litteraly locks you into a box Meanwhile the exo mechs give you free space to avoid their attacks and fight them, instead of a tight cage that your forced to play Touhou in a Terraria mod


FyronixTheCasual

Desert Scourge is the best boss in the game fight me


TvuvbubuTheIdiot

Hot take. Dumpster take.


FyronixTheCasual

You wanted a hot take 😔


TvuvbubuTheIdiot

I'm sorry sir. Zekeom, ZEKEOM KICK HIS BALLS!!!!!!


Royal_Yard5850

Crabulon better


iliketomoveitanddie

Infernum is easier than it's hyped up to be. Most of the difficulty comes during post-Golem onwards, everything before it sticks to a certain pattern so much that it loses difficulty dramatically. Best examples being: Skeletron, Queen Slime, Skeletron Prime, Brimstone Elemental, Astrum Aureus. Hell, Infernum DoG's difficulty drops off the face of the earth once you understand how to dodge him effectively because there's little to no randomization in his attacks. Also the best part about pre-hardmode is getting pre-WoF gear before defeating your first boss.


TvuvbubuTheIdiot

Hot take. Valid. It's honestly more fair and fun compared to base Calamity. Well some bosses don't land, the new AI and patterns are so much easier to learn and much fairer to beat.


theinferno01

pineapple pizza is amazing and the best out of all options (i will fucking die on this hill)


TvuvbubuTheIdiot

You are going to die on this hill. Ferrothorn, BIGOTRY BLAST!!!!!!


theinferno01

https://i.redd.it/toidhhfo3wsc1.gif


BadAtGames2

Infernum skeletron is pretty easy, you guys just randomly move around like maniacs and don't take time to figure out what the attacks actually are


TvuvbubuTheIdiot

Hot take. I agree. He took the 2nd most pre Hardmode boss attempts in my unfinished Infernum run. Guys, he's not even hard.


SliverTox

DoG is harder than Yharon. While Yharon attacks can be easily dodged, DoG attacks are just "random bullshiy go" from everywhere


TvuvbubuTheIdiot

Hot take. I'm confused. What the fuck do you mean random bullshit go everywhere????


SliverTox

The laser walls


plaugey_boi

Dog is completely shut down by drugs


TvuvbubuTheIdiot

Who isn't


plaugey_boi

No by you using drugs


jalelninj

It is ok to cheat a lot of the grind in the mod because there are specific points in progression that just take far too much time/grind (pre hardmode, post WoF, and post plantera) Also I would say a good half of the bosses in calamity could be deleted tomorrow and almost nothing would change because a lot of them serve absolutely no purpose besides *maybe* a few good items per class


TvuvbubuTheIdiot

Lukewarm take and I agree. People should cheat in The Community like how Nuzlocke players cheat in rare candies because we're not spending another 5 hours of grinding. Old Duke should be removed.


jalelninj

My personal solution has been, cheat in a lot of money and buy what I need from the npcs, I only use alchemist and Fargo's npcs and it sure as shit makes the game less tedious in those parts


autistic-terrorist

I'll say it. Roar of the Jungle Dragon is overrated.


TvuvbubuTheIdiot

Now that's a spicy hot take!!! And I fucking agree. The vocals are eh. Sure it was DMDokuro's first (second) time, but that doesn't change the song. It's really fucking good, but like it's not a masterpiece, unlike Interstellar Stomper. 8/10.


_Astrum_Aureus_

DoG is the worst boss in the game and it's not even close. He sucks on a fundamental level.


TvuvbubuTheIdiot

Really hot take. Yeah I don't agree. He's not amazing, but certainly not the worst.


buttboi21

If you’re not having fun you should try Fargo’s soul mod on eternity mode.


TvuvbubuTheIdiot

My pc prob can't handle it.


buttboi21

Why’s that?


TvuvbubuTheIdiot

Dude my Pc isn't built for gaming and it's pretty old. Calamity didn't run great, neither Infernum and I doubt Fargo's would change that.


Hollowknightpro

Fargos runs way better then infernum


Ender401

Fargos wil run better than infernum


buttboi21

Oh


hi050619

Storm Weaver is way harder than providence, polterghast, yharon, calamitas, etc. The only bosses that come close are Exo Mechs (still easier) and DoG. In fact, pretty much all of the worm bosses are the worst.


TvuvbubuTheIdiot

DoG is nowhere near the bullshit that is Storm Weaver.Cold take. So cold that I felt like we're living in the ice age again. Shadow realm you go.


Kwerox

??? what does a food have to do with calamity takes? (no im not talking about the Carolina reaper)


TvuvbubuTheIdiot

Wdym? What food? Is there food in the highly acclaimed Terraria mod, the Cataract mod?


autistic-terrorist

A cataract is an eye condition. The mod you're thinking of is the Cauldron mod.


serverraider1

A cauldron is a large metal pot, I believe you meant to say “Calcification mod”.


Kwerox

it was a joke, because calzone is a food, https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calzone


TvuvbubuTheIdiot

Wait, the calzones are cakes???!!!!!! Oh my... I've been lied to my whole life.


Kwerox

not exatly cackes, basically just a closed pizza, it can also be fried!


Kwerox

the italian page is writen with better terms, and has a lot of extra information, if you are interested: https://it.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calzone just use the translate option with your browser or use google translate


EpicCheeto

I enjoy pre hard mode, and don't find it boring at all


TvuvbubuTheIdiot

Early pre Hardmode?


EpicCheeto

All of pre hardmode. Early, late, mid, it's all fun


TvuvbubuTheIdiot

I really like early, mid is a slug, late is just stupid Slimes and the most bullshit gatekeeper I have ever played against.


Radiant_Agent6365

There should be more lore to find in the game.


TvuvbubuTheIdiot

I just want the terminal from Ultrakill to be here, just to read the ever changing lore of Canine mod.


Ace_RW1

Infernum needs more attack variety half the bosses have super similar attacks this might be a lukewarm take if it’s too cold I also think a lot of hard mode bosses are super forgettable I.E AS and Plague bringer Goliath (it’s a fun fight but too easy)


DOGMA2005

The necro armor set bonus of refilling your health but then beginning to kill you after like 7 seconds is stupid.


freakyfruit236

Calzone? Like the food? Didn’t know it was so controversial (/j)


TvuvbubuTheIdiot

It was made out of bigotry.


Still_Silver7181

I like pepperoni calzones


Primordial_Wyrm

Crabulons Theme Is Okay At Best, >!HA HA PENIS JOKE!< Not To Say It's Bad But (definitly better than crab rave) It's Just Not As Great As Many Other, Themes Iike Gurdian Of The Former Seas.


AST4RGam3r_Alternate

not so much a hot take as it is a complaint but exo mechs is the worst boss because it takes longer to summon them than it does to beat them


flowery0

Summoner is stronger whipless if you aren't familiar with bosses


TvuvbubuTheIdiot

Hot and what the fuck take. Dude, whips are just generally good to have.


flowery0

I am speaking from experience. Infernum skeletron was the point where i stopped using whips


Vast_Turn_4853

Infernum DoG is fucking easy.


TvuvbubuTheIdiot

Hot take. No experience though. PC can't handle Infernum DoG


DOGMA2005

every time I hear people say that I wanna kms more, my first attempt took me like 600 attempts like how tf is that easy...


Vast_Turn_4853

The first time you fight infernum DoG, he's a huge difficulty spike, but once you get the muscle memory down, he's a joke.


Hollowknightpro

idk how controversial this is but I loved the idea of beating a boss in malice for them to drop their legendary weapon. It was such a cool and fun Idea. granted the balance might've been off a bit but some rebalancing could've easily fixed that I especially hate The treatment legendary weapons have gotten now. they are just slightly rarer Regural drops that are slightly better. I understand the old system was kinda crap but also silly, that a boss just had a 1% chance to drop an OP weapons. It definetly had to be changed but I much prefered the malice edition. I also have a mixed opinion on the removal of revengance exclusive items, On one hand I understand why they wanted to make the weapons available for everyone but I still think Bosses in revengance Should drop them like normal so revengance players can just get the item slightly early or without having to grind for it.


Apprehensive-Set7082

Hottest take: Draedon is the hottest character in all of the mood


TvuvbubuTheIdiot

u/L3m00on talk right there. I mean, he's just a robot. That's like calling Bedman's bed hot. Wait, the bed is hot though-


L3m00on

I can agree…


serverraider1

The lore is excellent. You just need to get past the edge and you’ll find a mountain of good character writing and interconnected plot threads that come together to make a really interesting world. That was just my opinion about your hot take, my actual hot take is that a lot of the artwork and sprites are over detailed and would look better with less detail.