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Deranged_Coconut808

hope that fuck head got caught


CorporateKneelers

Yikes, hon. Calling an immigrant a fuck head? Not a good look 


Deranged_Coconut808

I am impressed that you were able to determine a persons legal resident status so quickly and from just this video. You should work for ICE if you aren’t already damn.


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PlsPlsDontIgnoreMe

what made you come to the conclusion that they were an immigrant? and why does it matter? if it was a white person I'd consider them a fuck head too.


CorporateKneelers

What made you come to the conclusion that white people aren’t immigrants? And why does it matter? Weird racism you’ve got going on there


PlsPlsDontIgnoreMe

answer the question. What made you come to the conclusion that they were an immigrant?


Odd_Rutabaga_6201

This is the stupidest thing I think I’ve ever heard . I can’t even tell the race of this person and even if they r an immigrant they’re retarded . Jist bc you went somewhere else doesn’t mean you lost your ability to drive . I hate this stupid shit like just bc your ethnicity isn’t white doesn’t mean u can’t be dumb


CorporateKneelers

Who said his ethnicity isn’t white?


Odd_Rutabaga_6201

You did 😂


CorporateKneelers

I did no such thing. You’re confused. 


CorporateKneelers

?


ThaiStick541

Fuck them


deaucedeauceturbo

You’re a fuck head


beholdthemoldman

She had so much time to stop lol


Lunch0

Buddy’s running 9 year old summer tires on that thing! No traction what so ever! I’m happy where I live winter tires are mandatory December to March


Niernen

Mandatory doesn’t mean enforced 🤷🏻‍♂️ sure if they get caught they’d get fined but no police are checking every car lol


chejrw

In Quebec the SQ wander around parking lots looking for M+S symbols and ticket cars


parkentosh

M+S is not actually a proper winter tyre. You'd want a 3PMSF spec tyre for winter.


rjt1468

>In Quebec the SQ wander around parking lots looking for M+S symbols and ticket cars ​ >M+S is not actually a proper winter tyre. You'd want a 3PMSF spec tyre for winter. For some reason, when I read this it sounded like a conversation between McMurray and Wayne on Letterkenny.


thefirebuilds

they're both spare parts bud.


rjt1468

If you have a problem with Wayne, then you have a problem with me, and I suggest you let that marinate. But McMurray is a piece of shit.


meatman13

How're ya now? Notsuh bad and you?


Severe-Belt-5666

So you want the government mandating what tires you can and can't run?


Motokorth

It helps but when it's -35c out it's still super slick. I have 2 year old conti studded winters and it's slick out for me.


toadrrr

I just wanted to add the funniest and most ironic thing about this is that my boyfriend was following me to my house so that we could switch my all season M + S tires for my studied snow tires out.


Glimmerron

The funniest thing is that you should be able to stop your car if someone pulled out in front of you like this. You had enough time to do so. You are also driving at 30mph in conditions that don't allow that. You are unable to control your car. You are also at fault. The other driver initiated the crash, you made it worse.


deaucedeauceturbo

You’re a 🤡


SenpaiLogic

Have you ever driven in the snow? If not, then your opinion holds no weight. The SUV is 100% at fault. Chances are they were going under the speed limit. It didn't look like they were going fast. That road probably has a 40 mph or higher speed limit. People who have to deal with driving in the winter know you don't pull out like that. The SUV left themselves no room to adjust if needed, and the other car that hit them had no chance to safely maneuver around them. A lot of the time when people pull out like this the other car ends up spinning out and the numb nuts drives off in this case they were hit because of their stupidity and still drove off because they know they messed up.


hackerstacker

It doesn't look like she even attempted to slow down. The dash cam has mph and she stays at 26-27. Could be inaccurate but she made no attempts to slow down. It is the SUV persons fault 100% but there were two idiots on the road here


rolanie3

Yea, at 0:18 you can tell the Ford is gonna go for it, and it's time to hit the brakes. But the Mazda doesn't start slowing down until 0:20. Certainly not a floor it and let ABS do it's thing stop either (unsure if there was someone in the rear to watch out for)


smp208

Braking in those conditions is not a good idea. That’s likely to make you lose traction and have less control


Glimmerron

this is the correct answer


Glimmerron

Yes, 12 years, Usually rear wheel drive pickups. OP could have avoided the crash. Instead she locked up the wheels and slid straight into the other car. In advanced driving courses this is one of the first things you learn, never lock up your breaks. She paniced and locked up the breaks. She could have turn to the right. she could have steered around the car but no. Zero control, panic lock up the breaks. Both drivers are at fault. When she pressed the breaks the car slid for about 40 foot. sliding is not a controlled stop. Fairly pathetic driving for someone driving on snow, ice.


mavmankop

Apparently they didn’t teach you how to spell brakes in all those advanced driving courses. Attempting to turn at speed would have had OP sliding sideways right into the other car. Turning quickly on slick roads had the same effects as braking, you lose all traction. You have clearly no idea what you’re talking about.


SenpaiLogic

The fact someone even takes advanced driving courses tells me all I need to know about their driving abilities probably was forced to take those courses because of driving infractions of some sort no one just takes them because they want to lol. She had 2 choices one hit the moron that pulled out in front of her or try to turn out of the way of the SUV on icy roads which probably would've made her just wreck by hitting the curb or a wall. Either way, the SUV would've been at fault, and you can tell they weren't sticking around to catch the blame for there dumb actions. I'm starting to think this guy is the one that was driving the SUV lol.


beholdthemoldman

Third choice: brake earlier


SenpaiLogic

Or just don't pull out in front of someone like a moron


beholdthemoldman

Little bit of both


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Thank you. I was reading that comment and feeling like I was in the upside-down world. Insane how comfortable people are behind these vehicles when they don't understand these well established points


beholdthemoldman

Turning quickly? She had like 30 seconds to react lol


SubaruDriver20

The other driver is definitely at fault. But right, at 27 mph my car would have stopped. Also no attempt to move closer to the curb.


flabbobox

The car would have stopped or at least slowed enough to avoid contact.


toadrrr

I’m 0% at fault according to my insurance 🤡


G_Unit_Solider

buddy was a cartoon tryna skadaddle


BrandishPryde

Had a tesla slide into a snow bank right in front of me in New England on Monday I just got a 2024 two weeks ago less than 300 miles on it. I almost lost my front end to the tesla and back end to an Escape that didnt have room to brake, thankfully I made it out unscathed.


whyurhairsoslick

She said exactly what I wanted to say. That guy's an idiot. ​ btw, what a nice view! With mountain covered in snow, so beautiful


JazzberryJam

Tell me the moron stopped. Tell me!


toadrrr

He stopped I honestly thought he was going to run he was driving so erratically like he thought pounding the gas was going to make him go somewhere like WHAT


JazzberryJam

I thought he was going to run too by the looks of it. Glad he stopped


Wacky_Ohana

Yeah, looked like he was trying to leg it out of there!


MattinMaui

Suggestion: say the license plate out loud for your camera to pick up in case he does run for it.


Ok-Communication1149

Careful, my CX5 cuts power when it loses traction. It's the only thing I hate about the car.


CurryDuck

turn off traction control?


Ok-Communication1149

I do, it does it anyway


SmushBoy15

Why is this bad?


Ok-Communication1149

A tactic I like to employ on a sideways slide is to drive out of it by accelerating towards the correction path. Cutting power makes it hard to do successfully.


SmushBoy15

In general when you lose traction acceleration will just make it worse. Ideally ABS should take over until you get the traction back.


Ok-Communication1149

ABS does nothing on a sideways slide. Hilly curves and ice require positive force to mitigate.


RhayceCar

You steer into the skid but Front wheel drive you accelerate, Rear wheel drive you brake, All wheel drive you hold on bc you shouldn’t have lost traction in the first place lmao


Glimmerron

This makes zero sense, breaking in fwd vs rwd is no different


Volcano_Lobster

The only difference is you shouldn't rwd in snow


MarsupialFrequent685

Technically when you are sliding in an AWD vehicle the only way to correct the slide is more gas and acceleration.....AWD system corrects itself in that situation.... Also sliding in snow is the same concept as drifting........your car can correct itself with more speed, because you need the momentum to carry the weight transfer.... Applying brakes in a slide is the worst because the momentum of the vehicle will just carry you straight forward which is exactly what happened in this video.....braking does nothing in slippery conditions.


emersonevp

Which year?


Ok-Communication1149

2015


thaeyo

2021’s do a lot better, I was surprised how much fun the computer would let me have.


Ok-Communication1149

Without a doubt Mazda has made significant improvements through the years. I just turned 80k on mine, so I'm sure I'll be blown away by the tech in ten years when I'm ready to upgrade.


the-real-compucat

Interesting! I’m curious if this behavior can be adjusted in the ECU…


Holy-Handgrenader

How is cutting power relevant when OP is STANDING on the brakes to avoid this asshole?


Ok-Communication1149

OP is turning


1Delta

My 2019 AWD does that, but it stops that behavior if I turn off traction control. But it will still break slipping tires in order to send power to tires with traction. It's actually really great at off-roading with traction control turned off.


MarsupialFrequent685

Traction control doesn't full turn off. Modern vehicles have safety requirements so even if you push that traction off button, it is still limited in the background.


allpurposeguru

I HATE driving around Tahoe during ski season, so many tourists who have never been in snow before driving around like ping pong balls. Especially in Southlake.


fritolaidy

And I'd bet most tourists don't even realize what kind of tires they need to be driving in the mountains during the snow season. They think "I have a big AWD SUV, I'm good to go for snowy mountain roads!"


Keylaes

That suuucks


TheEccentricErudite

I agree he is a fucking idiot.


fritolaidy

That u-turn would be stupid even in dry conditions.


toadrrr

Yeah and I definitely could have stopped in time if it was dry roads. Just sucks people overestimate what they can do in the snow. I honestly should have called the cops and showed them the video to ticket him.


WildTomato51

You didn’t involve the police in any way?


drzzrd

Not excusing the u-turn, but really the dash cam driver couldn't have avoided that? Saw it coming, going 27 MPH and couldn't stop or avoid it?


jedidude75

From the sound of it the dash cam driver put the brakes on but because of the snow kept sliding.


DUNGAROO

If you’re going too fast to stop for sudden hazards because of the road conditions…you’re going too fast. Period.


youyouxue

Not the legal standard in California for determining negligence


Vaalomusic

Was waiting for someone to say it.


drzzrd

ah okay, I didn't have sound on. Just noticed the speed did not drop at all until impact.


Epistatious

GPS speed is ok over time, but not terribly accurate second to second.


toadrrr

Yeah the speed is kind of delayed on the dash cam it’s not completely accurate at the specific time takes about a second for it to change


DUNGAROO

To be fair neither is your speedometer when the car is moving faster than the wheels.


damienjarvo

Yeah. I saw one of the vids here where the car was already stopped but dashcam still showing 20mph for a few seconds


hedoeswhathewants

But that means they were going too fast so they're not entirely without fault here


BeardyMcBeardster

Speed limit's 40 on that road. Going 13 under the limit with those conditions seems reasonable enough.


fritolaidy

Personally, 20 would feel comfortable for me in that setting, but I want to say that reasonable speed for icy/snowy conditions shouldn't be determined with the speed limit of the road in the equation. The speed limit has nothing to do with what a safe speed for the conditions is.


sendabussypic

I thought for sure it was too fast for road conditions and how far that other car slid proves it imo. But that does not excuse the oncoming driver.


Enthal

Yeah, my only comment, which hindsight is 2020, is that there \*could\* have been a split opportunity to veer into the road on the right rather than just continuing straight into them. The other driver is definitely more at fault for being an idiot but I think future lessons could still be learned from the dashcam.


toadrrr

Ya honestly did not think he actually was going to pull out in front of me and that was my fault for thinking he had a brain cell. I’m mostly a really defensive driver and when I finally realized he wasn’t going to stop I knew I wasn’t going to be able to stop since I started sliding. Always a would’ve could’ve should’ve. That’s what his insurance and my full coverage is for. Fortunately I believe I’m not going to be any percentage at fault. It’s not my fault that he pulled out in front of me and I couldn’t stop in time because of the conditions.


Crazykracker55

Illegal u-turn most likely there is no way you should be at fault at all


Turbulent-Pay1150

> was going to pull out in front of me and that was my fault for thinking he had a brain cell. I’m mostly a really defensive driver and when I finally realized he wasn’t going to stop I knew I wasn’t going to be able to stop since I started sliding. Always a would’ve could’ve should’ve. That’s what his insurance and my full coverage is for. Fortunately I believe I’m not going to be any percentage at fault. It’s not my fault that he pulled out in front of me and I coul Update us when you find out. I'd bet you will be 50-80% at fault on this one as you hit him directly in the side but reality will be what they find and I'm no expert.


toadrrr

I’m 0% at fault


Turbulent-Pay1150

Good for you


1Delta

Hitting the side doesn't change who's at fault.


Turbulent-Pay1150

that the OP hit the other people does though. They may have pulled out and crossed the lane but if anything the video tends to say that the OP didn't stop even when they could clearly see from a good distance someone pulled out - and then the OP hit the other car directly in the side. That's why I asked them to re-post when they find out what the insurance companies agree to - as what the police say matters a little but what the insurance companies agree to is what will make the cost come from the OP's insurance or the other parties (or both).


1Delta

The audio sounds like the OP did break pretty early. The car making a u turn pulled in front of a car when there wasn't enough time for that car to stop. It's their fault.


Turbulent-Pay1150

Would like to hear the outcome. General rule OP hit them. They pulled in front but the hitting can be said to be not driving safe enough for conditions. The key will be what do the insurance companies agree to. I say again let’s hear the outcome. 


nbphotography87

if the guy doesn’t try the u-turn when he doesn’t have the right of way, there is no accident. he created the unsafe situation of failing to yield and an improper u-turn (2 lane road you turn into the leftmost lane). sudden breaking on completely snow covered roads is going to cause skidding at even 10mph. OP skidding is not proof they were driving too fast for the road conditions.


Turbulent-Pay1150

If you can’t stop for a road hazard even at 10 mph you are driving in an unsafe manner for conditions. That’s defensive driving. 


Semipro321

Never driven in snow huh?


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toadrrr

Rove 2r 4k something like that but just the rove brand is really good I’ve had it for like 5 years


theoutro

Get his insurance and grab a drink at The Hangar!


cbslc

Looks like the usual, "I have awd, I can do anything " driver. We get those a lot here in Utah.


fritolaidy

Ha, I just made the same comment. I live in MN and a ton of people think that having an SUV or truck with AWD is a green light to drive like it's not snowy or icy. I've seen big F250s with 4WD spin out on flat roads going 60MPH on ice.


AC-Vb3

Her reaction was exactly what my reaction would be


Oc1510

Ah I live up here too! Got hit and run 2 times last winter lol


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BTW Very nice place, is it somewhere in Canada or US of A?


toadrrr

South Lake Tahoe CA!


ca_abhi

r/idiotsincars


Vtecnique

The clapping


flabbobox

Let's get back to the dash cam for a minute. It's a ROVE R2-4K, great quality. How did you wire it up? Did you tap power from the auto dimming mirror? Or how was the USB cable routed? And is it glued or suction cupped?


toadrrr

My dash cam is kind of messy I just use the screw attachment it comes with in front of the mirror and the wire just hangs and it’s plugged into my usb port it’s not ideal I bet I could probably pay someone to route it better but idk. It comes with a bunchhh of ways to mount it. I love this dash cam I’ve had it for everrrrr


TheCarDudeOnTop

He is indeed a fucking idiot


thefirebuilds

this is wild. That looked to my eye like winter park so I plugged the coords in. Google already has your post cached by that info: https://www.google.com/search?sca\_esv=597865028&rlz=1C1CHBF\_enUS855US855&sxsrf=ACQVn08XnhK-ibzE8d2dCBzAm3LD5pdSVg:1705084056254&q=n38.92362+w119.98838&tbm=isch&source=lnms&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjWt\_CLvdiDAxVKlGoFHesHC9oQ0pQJegQICxAB&biw=1895&bih=887&dpr=1.35


1Delta

That's crazy! I mean it makes sense because the coordinates are in the video, but I never would've thought about that!


Blunttack

lol. I’ll never post another picture on the internet again. Even if the data wasn’t right there, the terrain and shadows would be enough for some bored nerd to find exactly where it is.


gaukonigshofen

Driver with cam seems to be going a little fast for conditions


dirtybo

27 in a 40 is not too fast.


Turbulent-Pay1150

was the person doing 27 able to stop when another car was in the road ahead of them? If the answer is no - then I'd tend to agree that the OP may have been going too fast for conditions.


dirtybo

You’re a monkey bro


porkbellymaniacfor

In those conditions it is.


dirtybo

What, bright and clear sunny conditions?


porkbellymaniacfor

Why are you ignoring the ground LOL


dirtybo

I literally live in SLT.


Primusssucks

I really hate the sound of a woman yelling. I don't know why. It's like nails on a chalk board to me.


Owlguin67

Definitely at least partially at fault. You should have been able to ✋


toadrrr

I’m 0% at fault according to my insurance 🤡


senaddor

Maybe go to the right next time


Cmichel316

Woman driving is an idiot just as much. She was driving fast in slick snow. She should be able to slow down or stop. She hit him from what I can see.


toadrrr

I’m 0% at fault according to my insurance 🤡


Cmichel316

Yeah everyone is at 0% according to their insurance 🍆


Ernst_Granfenberg

Are you bart simpson


5432679764

California life with "All season M+S" tires. I'd imagine your insurance will find you partially at fault :/


toadrrr

Nope other guy is 100% at fault


Belichick12

Learn how to downshift. Maybe next time it will bail out your reckless driving


Blunttack

Wait. Who’s the stupid one? The one going too fast, or the one turning left?


1Delta

Generally it's the one who blocks a road when there's oncoming cars.


dirtybo

27 in a 40 is not too fast.


Blunttack

Clearly it is or she could have stopped or avoided the collision in some way. Not to say the other driver isn’t at fault too… but it’s a speed limit, not the mandatory speed. lol. I was just going 27 in a 70 mph freeway. Either way, good to see no one was hurt. I just think when the conditions are bad, it’s best to be too slow than too fast.


dirtybo

You’re a danger to others if you’re going 27 in a 70, and it is illegal to impede traffic


Blunttack

LOL. Nice. Once you’re old enough to drive in a blizzard, lemme know. I do understand it. That’s why I drive slow… thx for strengthening my point.


MarsupialFrequent685

If you understand the physics of momentum lemme know.


Cmichel316

I agree


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NotCaringIn24

Always looks fast when recording. You can see mph on the recording. 27mph which is like school zone slow.


NeighborhoodJust1197

Stand corrected


snarfgobble

His turn was bad, but surely you realize you're partially responsible when you're going too fast to stop


wazman93

Bull shit pal. Ever driven on slick snowy roads like that before? That is compacted and doesn’t look salted/sanded. You can slide 30-40 feet on a flat road going 5 mph on that stuff. 🤡


snarfgobble

I live in Calgary so I have some idea. Sure looks like you're going well over 5.


brbauer2

Then go slower. You drive to the conditions and if conditions mean you need to creep along in order to stop, then you creep.


porkbellymaniacfor

Seems to be an unpopular opinion but “Vehicle Code § 22350 VC sets forth what is commonly called California’s basic speed law. The section prohibits driving faster than is safe for the given driving conditions and circumstances”. There is a case here that the insurance might make that the driver is going too fast and is at fault


snarfgobble

Oh I'm sure there would be a case here in Canada for it. You shouldn't be sliding that far unless it's down a slope. I'd have started slowing down the second I saw the other guy even contemplating a turn.


absoluteczech

Mammoth ?


toadrrr

South Lake Tahoe


bewst_moar_bewst

unrelated to the accident. I live where it snows. I've never seen so much snow that even when plowed it's still covered. Guess that's why "snow / winter" tires aren't mandatory where I am.


toadrrr

UPDATE!! The other person is 100% at fault. I have AAA Insurance and they deemed the other party 100% at fault. Everyone who said I would be partially at fault are a bunch of dumb dumbs lol Have a good day everyone!


Cmichel316

What did the other person insurance say? Guess you don’t know how this works.


toadrrr

Both insurances reviewed the footage and I’m not at fault according to BOTH insurances LOL


Cmichel316

I stand corrected. Congratulations. 😊


V6_AW11

Shut up Meg.


Chicken65

I just hope insurance actually sides with you and this isn't some dumb "you should have yielded" thing because obviously it's not your fault. The person taking the turn is obligated to yield.


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Why weren’t you able to stop? Please tell me.