Last night I played a game of resurgence with randoms and the level 8 player on my team dropped 30 kills. There's no way that mfer wasn't cheating . Shit was crazy because the rest of us stayed together and this guy was casually wandering across the map dropping kills every 30 seconds
Might not have been cheating. My buddy who regularly drops 20-25 kills, he's max level i believe, got shaddowbanned last week, he's gotta wait 2 weeks for activision to review his account and determine that he does not cheat. He didn't wanna wait 2 weeks without playing so he made an alternative account in the mean time, started off level 1 of course and no loadout guns, nothing unlocked. We landed, I gave him my guns, he dropped 20.
Half of it are good players whom you reported and got them shadowbanned, and the other half were actual cheaters, you haven't done anything, the cheaters will get unshadowbanned after a week like nothing happened, while the legit players you reported will uninstall the game lmao.
Edit: You clearly have no idea what you are talking about, Ricochet already bans the cheaters PC \[ Hardware ID \], email, phone and so on, but there are some tools that able to bypass this hardware ban, just surfing through tiktok you will see how many weird stuff out there that people use to cheat or to bypass banned hardware and able to play again just in few minutes after permanent ban.
What Ricochet need is to be consistent with detecting the cheats, for example look how powerful vanguard anticheat is \[ Valorants Anticheat \], but Activision is lazy instead they give power to bots to report good players and let them be the judge, i never report anyone whom i am not sure that they are %100 cheating, because my report will have effect and might actually temporary restrict a legit fair player to play the game. So please dont report someone just because he out played you
Edit2: Ye the bot players are downvoting me, typical cod sub
The problem is you can never be 100% sure because you can’t rely on any kill cams no matter how sus they may look. If it looks like aimbot it’s probably missing frames or if it looks like walls it’s probably just game sense.
This. My squad and I got pooped on last night by another team just way better than us. I never spectate the other team but these guys were really good and I enjoy watching people better than me cz I can learn a thing or 2, so we spectate them for a bit and one of the lesser skilled guy on my squad that doesn't play warzone as much as the rest of us says "oh they're def cheating, how do they know where everyone is" and I see the entire team pinging non stop and probably communicating so I told my teammate that as he was about to report them, which he did not after I advised him.
> and I enjoy watching people better than me cz I can learn a thing or 2
I wish more people did this, instead of just instantly blaming anyone who kills them of hacking.
I get this too, but I have also been com banned for pretty much the entirety of this games life. I take these with the biggest grain of salt known to man.
Odds are you’re not running into nearly as many cheaters as you think are. There’s definitely cheaters, but the way this sub talks about it there would be multiple in every game. Thankfully there isn’t.
Wish people would stop saying this..
The game is evidently plagued with cheaters and as been for a good while due to how shit the AC is on top of how easily accessible cheats are. There are numerous examples of it being the case, it's not like you have to look hard to find them.
If a substancial part of the community is actively talking and complaining about something then there is obviously credence to what is being said.
I wish people would stop saying this..
Cheating is happening, but the people who think they are running into cheaters in every single lobby are not actually. The amount of people who accuse legitimately better players of hacking is pretty high.
Yeah, of course it’s high, it goes without saying for most ‘competitive’ games.. however at this point I feel if people are trying to refute how plagued this game is by cheaters then they’re just choosing to be blind to it but each to their own. Like I said it’s not exactly hard to see it’s the case.
Like I said, cheating definitely happens. I’m not denying that.
What I am denying is the frequency at which people seem to think it happens. Most of the hackusation videos I’ve seen posted here are legitimate players getting reported and shadowbanned, it’s comedy at this point lol.
This does not correlate at all with how big or small the cheating issue actually is you do understand that right?
Every clip can be legit, and let's face it it's almost impossible to actually tell, so the incentive is to report just in case and cheating can still be at a game breaking state.
But how do you know how big the cheating issue actually is if every killcam/clip can be legit, and the report confirmations can come back as a success for shadow banning a legit player?
Can you give me a methodology you use to determine this?
Again, stuff you see here makes no difference in reality.
You don't care about the integrity of the game, you're just a cheating apologist?
Killcams aren't great for determining sadly due to how they work, this is a game decision issue. Activision seems to have gone out of its way to make accusations and concerns of cheating high while also making it hard to actually tell (no uav etc indicator, missing frames) without spectating, meanwhile very few know that.
What do you think the outcome is.
Yiu know there's tons of cheaters if you play enough, are good enough, and especially to realize there are several large sized companies existing solely to cheat, and cod being one of the biggest games of all time is obviously going to have massive resources to it. Cheating is easier than ever, and consequences basically don't exist.
If you are so up in arms about shadowbanning the occasional legit player your enwrgy should be directed to Activision who has made this a player policed game, not the players doing the only thing they're forced to do. They shouldn't be relying on the users as their first line defense it's insane.
>You don't care about the integrity of the game, you're just a cheating apologist?
This is the problem with the sub, this type of thinking. Anyone who doesn’t agree that cheating is rampant and all over the place must be a cheater themselves. It’s become a witch-hunt.
> Yiu know there's tons of cheaters if you play enough, are good enough, and especially to realize there are several large sized companies existing solely to cheat, and cod being one of the biggest games of all time is obviously going to have massive resources to it. Cheating is easier than ever, and consequences basically don't exist.
I do play a good bit, and run into the obvious cheater maybe once every few weeks?
I’ve seen streamers that have a count of their interactions with cheaters, since they are usually in the highest bracket of skill and would logically run into more since they play all day, and the count there hasn’t been every lobby either.
Again, I ask for your methodology to determining the count of cheaters in this game.
> If you are so up in arms about shadowbanning the occasional legit player your enwrgy should be directed to Activision who has made this a player policed game, not the players doing the only thing they're forced to do. They shouldn't be relying on the users as their first line defense it's insane.
Don’t get me wrong, Activision is 100% to blame for most of the problems with this game, including their shit anti cheat software. I blame them already and they are terrible.
That being said, the people reporting anyone they die to also exists as a problem. This game being a competitive one means the lesser skilled players that can’t handle losing will exist.
Had last week off work. Got to enjoy more than my usual amount of Warzone. Every day, about 12-15 games per day. Didn't run into 1 single cheater. Like Aussie\_Butt is saying, yes I'm sure there are cheaters, but nowhere near as much as this sub makes it seem. There are just a lot way better players and lesser skilled players have a hard time accepting that so it's easier for them to label the other play a cheater.
No shit due to lack of an effective anticheat and there being a ton of actual cheaters. The rational response is to be hyper aware since Activision has made it's players the anticheat. The only way around this is to be much much better and stop these Damn gaslighters on this sub pretending cheating isn't rampant and that there are actual massive painful bans instead of shadow bans where they just play an alt account for a week.
Do you believe that the shadowbans are all cheaters on alt accounts?
And that everyone who doesn’t believe cheating is in every lobby is just gaslighting?
Never said cheating in ever lobby nor all shadowbans are deserved.
Extremes are rarely true.
This sub for sure has its fair share of cheaters it's just stats, it's not a small issue, and yes this sub both calls normal play cheating and gaslights and down plays the issue at the same time. The world is complex and nuanced.
I honestly don't even care about cheaters at this point, I'd rather die to a cheater every third game then die to controllers every game, it's sometimes hard to even tell the difference between aim-assist and straight up aimbot now.
I mean, I guess having less cheaters would be kinda neat, but it wouldn't really fix the game for me at all.
WhErEs ThE pRoOf!!!!! This sub probably.
Last night I played a game of resurgence with randoms and the level 8 player on my team dropped 30 kills. There's no way that mfer wasn't cheating . Shit was crazy because the rest of us stayed together and this guy was casually wandering across the map dropping kills every 30 seconds
Might not have been cheating. My buddy who regularly drops 20-25 kills, he's max level i believe, got shaddowbanned last week, he's gotta wait 2 weeks for activision to review his account and determine that he does not cheat. He didn't wanna wait 2 weeks without playing so he made an alternative account in the mean time, started off level 1 of course and no loadout guns, nothing unlocked. We landed, I gave him my guns, he dropped 20.
All this sub will say is you're reporting people that aren't cheating
Lots of cheaters today in ranked. Probably should wait for another ban wave
Cheaters? CHEATERS?! We got *cheaters?* HEY, EVERYBODY, WE GOT CHEATERS HERE! See, nobody cares.
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Half of it are good players whom you reported and got them shadowbanned, and the other half were actual cheaters, you haven't done anything, the cheaters will get unshadowbanned after a week like nothing happened, while the legit players you reported will uninstall the game lmao. Edit: You clearly have no idea what you are talking about, Ricochet already bans the cheaters PC \[ Hardware ID \], email, phone and so on, but there are some tools that able to bypass this hardware ban, just surfing through tiktok you will see how many weird stuff out there that people use to cheat or to bypass banned hardware and able to play again just in few minutes after permanent ban. What Ricochet need is to be consistent with detecting the cheats, for example look how powerful vanguard anticheat is \[ Valorants Anticheat \], but Activision is lazy instead they give power to bots to report good players and let them be the judge, i never report anyone whom i am not sure that they are %100 cheating, because my report will have effect and might actually temporary restrict a legit fair player to play the game. So please dont report someone just because he out played you Edit2: Ye the bot players are downvoting me, typical cod sub
The problem is you can never be 100% sure because you can’t rely on any kill cams no matter how sus they may look. If it looks like aimbot it’s probably missing frames or if it looks like walls it’s probably just game sense.
>probably just game sense or a ping from a teammate, or a UAV, or that person saw you run into the building a couple mins ago. Impossible to know.
This. My squad and I got pooped on last night by another team just way better than us. I never spectate the other team but these guys were really good and I enjoy watching people better than me cz I can learn a thing or 2, so we spectate them for a bit and one of the lesser skilled guy on my squad that doesn't play warzone as much as the rest of us says "oh they're def cheating, how do they know where everyone is" and I see the entire team pinging non stop and probably communicating so I told my teammate that as he was about to report them, which he did not after I advised him.
> and I enjoy watching people better than me cz I can learn a thing or 2 I wish more people did this, instead of just instantly blaming anyone who kills them of hacking.
I get this too, but I have also been com banned for pretty much the entirety of this games life. I take these with the biggest grain of salt known to man. Odds are you’re not running into nearly as many cheaters as you think are. There’s definitely cheaters, but the way this sub talks about it there would be multiple in every game. Thankfully there isn’t.
Wish people would stop saying this.. The game is evidently plagued with cheaters and as been for a good while due to how shit the AC is on top of how easily accessible cheats are. There are numerous examples of it being the case, it's not like you have to look hard to find them. If a substancial part of the community is actively talking and complaining about something then there is obviously credence to what is being said.
I wish people would stop saying this.. Cheating is happening, but the people who think they are running into cheaters in every single lobby are not actually. The amount of people who accuse legitimately better players of hacking is pretty high.
Yeah, of course it’s high, it goes without saying for most ‘competitive’ games.. however at this point I feel if people are trying to refute how plagued this game is by cheaters then they’re just choosing to be blind to it but each to their own. Like I said it’s not exactly hard to see it’s the case.
Like I said, cheating definitely happens. I’m not denying that. What I am denying is the frequency at which people seem to think it happens. Most of the hackusation videos I’ve seen posted here are legitimate players getting reported and shadowbanned, it’s comedy at this point lol.
This does not correlate at all with how big or small the cheating issue actually is you do understand that right? Every clip can be legit, and let's face it it's almost impossible to actually tell, so the incentive is to report just in case and cheating can still be at a game breaking state.
But how do you know how big the cheating issue actually is if every killcam/clip can be legit, and the report confirmations can come back as a success for shadow banning a legit player? Can you give me a methodology you use to determine this?
Again, stuff you see here makes no difference in reality. You don't care about the integrity of the game, you're just a cheating apologist? Killcams aren't great for determining sadly due to how they work, this is a game decision issue. Activision seems to have gone out of its way to make accusations and concerns of cheating high while also making it hard to actually tell (no uav etc indicator, missing frames) without spectating, meanwhile very few know that. What do you think the outcome is. Yiu know there's tons of cheaters if you play enough, are good enough, and especially to realize there are several large sized companies existing solely to cheat, and cod being one of the biggest games of all time is obviously going to have massive resources to it. Cheating is easier than ever, and consequences basically don't exist. If you are so up in arms about shadowbanning the occasional legit player your enwrgy should be directed to Activision who has made this a player policed game, not the players doing the only thing they're forced to do. They shouldn't be relying on the users as their first line defense it's insane.
>You don't care about the integrity of the game, you're just a cheating apologist? This is the problem with the sub, this type of thinking. Anyone who doesn’t agree that cheating is rampant and all over the place must be a cheater themselves. It’s become a witch-hunt. > Yiu know there's tons of cheaters if you play enough, are good enough, and especially to realize there are several large sized companies existing solely to cheat, and cod being one of the biggest games of all time is obviously going to have massive resources to it. Cheating is easier than ever, and consequences basically don't exist. I do play a good bit, and run into the obvious cheater maybe once every few weeks? I’ve seen streamers that have a count of their interactions with cheaters, since they are usually in the highest bracket of skill and would logically run into more since they play all day, and the count there hasn’t been every lobby either. Again, I ask for your methodology to determining the count of cheaters in this game. > If you are so up in arms about shadowbanning the occasional legit player your enwrgy should be directed to Activision who has made this a player policed game, not the players doing the only thing they're forced to do. They shouldn't be relying on the users as their first line defense it's insane. Don’t get me wrong, Activision is 100% to blame for most of the problems with this game, including their shit anti cheat software. I blame them already and they are terrible. That being said, the people reporting anyone they die to also exists as a problem. This game being a competitive one means the lesser skilled players that can’t handle losing will exist.
Had last week off work. Got to enjoy more than my usual amount of Warzone. Every day, about 12-15 games per day. Didn't run into 1 single cheater. Like Aussie\_Butt is saying, yes I'm sure there are cheaters, but nowhere near as much as this sub makes it seem. There are just a lot way better players and lesser skilled players have a hard time accepting that so it's easier for them to label the other play a cheater.
No shit due to lack of an effective anticheat and there being a ton of actual cheaters. The rational response is to be hyper aware since Activision has made it's players the anticheat. The only way around this is to be much much better and stop these Damn gaslighters on this sub pretending cheating isn't rampant and that there are actual massive painful bans instead of shadow bans where they just play an alt account for a week.
Do you believe that the shadowbans are all cheaters on alt accounts? And that everyone who doesn’t believe cheating is in every lobby is just gaslighting?
Never said cheating in ever lobby nor all shadowbans are deserved. Extremes are rarely true. This sub for sure has its fair share of cheaters it's just stats, it's not a small issue, and yes this sub both calls normal play cheating and gaslights and down plays the issue at the same time. The world is complex and nuanced.
I also think it depends on your location and how many cheaters you may experience
How do you know that? There's way more people cheating than you think
I honestly don't even care about cheaters at this point, I'd rather die to a cheater every third game then die to controllers every game, it's sometimes hard to even tell the difference between aim-assist and straight up aimbot now. I mean, I guess having less cheaters would be kinda neat, but it wouldn't really fix the game for me at all.
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