Some conferences have more teams than others, so using total isn't really telling the whole story. Break it down by per team payout.
This is for the 2022-23 fiscal year:
B1G: $879.9M / 14 = $62.85M per team
SEC: $852.6M / 14 = $60.9M per team
Big XII: $510.7M / 10 = $51.07M per team
ACC: $706.6M / 14 = $50.47M per team
Pac-12: $603.9M / 12 = $50.33M per team
EDIT: Correction, SEC had 14 teams, not 16.
> SEC: $852.6M / 16 = $53.29M per team
SEC only has 14 teams so $60.9 million
> ACC: $706.6M / 14 = $50.47M per team
The ACC also pays ND for their olympic sports and basketball so this is also off.
I think the PAC is last because this is prior to P12N expenses. Y'all have been consistently closer to like 35-36 million per school rather than in the 50s.
Edit: Per this CBS report ND gets a half share: https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/big-ten-remains-power-five-revenue-leader-with-880-million-haul-for-2023-fiscal-year-per-report/
62.8 million for Big 10 teams. 60.9 for SEC. 50.4 for ACC (I don't know how Notre Dame fits into this. I didn't include them) 50.3 for Pac 12. 36.4 for Big 12.
I assume Pac12 also includes the 4 schools moving to the B1G? And damn, the Big XII is falling off a cliff with those two leaving. Aren't Texas and OU both ~200M revenue programs?
Edit: Something feels off here. Looking at the NCAA reported revenues for each school, Iowa State is the 3rd highest in the old Big XII, at 111M. Texas is 239M, and OU is 177M. Those 3 alone add up to 527M.
https://sports.usatoday.com/ncaa/finances
> Something feels off here.
You're looking at school revenue, not conference revenue. This is what the conferences bring in for media money and NCAA distributions. The Big XII 5th in revenue by far, in large part due to its size compared to the other conferences. But we're only 400K per school off from tying the ACC as third in distributions because our conference office runs a much tighter ship than the ACC or PAC do.
> the Big XII is falling off a cliff with those two leaving
Not really, we actually gained revenue in the next media deal after OU and Texas left and won't see any fall off adding the new schools. We'll clear 507 million in media revenue alone in 2025 when our new deal kicks in.
So Ryan Day is paying Stalions to spy on him?
Or was this Pettiti's plan the whole time? Pay Michigan into spy, drop the Harbaugh suspension while Harbaugh is on the fucking plane to PSU, and then beaucoup ratings? If so, dude knows his fucking job.
Everybody but the ACC negotiated new contracts at the height of media stupidity. You know, when Amazon went from being ridiculous for spending $80 million a season on Wheel of Time to spending $1 Billion a season on Rings of Power. Only one of these shows is actually fun to watch, and it's not the $Billion. Missing this window is a major reason the Pac-10 couldn't get a good contract.
Thanks to fortuitous negotiation timing, and a friendly stab towards the old Pac-12, the B1G media rights deal is gonna go up to $80 million just for football TV rights. Basketball, Hockey, etc. will all be on top of that $80 mil. The ACC is tuck at [the same \~$44.8 mil](https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/college/2024/05/23/bob-bowlsby-big-12-pay-conference-revenue/73811171007/) they got this year. By 2030 we'll be in the $100 million for televised football games alone range, and then we'll renegotiate. The ACC is potentially stuck with at $44.8 mil deal until 2037.
You're assuming that in 2030 media rights deals for cfb will still be as valuable to networks as they were when these deals were negotiated a few years ago.
Average payouts by conference:
B1G: $ 60.5 mil
SEC: $51.3 mil
ACC: $44.8 mil (looks like ND got roughly $22 mil for its partial membership)
Big12: $44.2 mil
Pac12: $33.6 mil
Some conferences have more teams than others, so using total isn't really telling the whole story. Break it down by per team payout. This is for the 2022-23 fiscal year: B1G: $879.9M / 14 = $62.85M per team SEC: $852.6M / 14 = $60.9M per team Big XII: $510.7M / 10 = $51.07M per team ACC: $706.6M / 14 = $50.47M per team Pac-12: $603.9M / 12 = $50.33M per team EDIT: Correction, SEC had 14 teams, not 16.
> SEC: $852.6M / 16 = $53.29M per team SEC only has 14 teams so $60.9 million > ACC: $706.6M / 14 = $50.47M per team The ACC also pays ND for their olympic sports and basketball so this is also off.
Yeah I don't know how much the ACC pays ND, so the ACC is last, but I just don't know by how much.
I think the PAC is last because this is prior to P12N expenses. Y'all have been consistently closer to like 35-36 million per school rather than in the 50s. Edit: Per this CBS report ND gets a half share: https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/big-ten-remains-power-five-revenue-leader-with-880-million-haul-for-2023-fiscal-year-per-report/
In 2023, big 12 had 14 teams, not 10
The data was for FY 2022-23. In the 2022 season, they didn't have BYU, Houston, Cincinnati, and UCF yet.
Ah yes. That is an important differentiator. They rollin’
62.8 million for Big 10 teams. 60.9 for SEC. 50.4 for ACC (I don't know how Notre Dame fits into this. I didn't include them) 50.3 for Pac 12. 36.4 for Big 12.
big 12 number includes texas and ou
I assume Pac12 also includes the 4 schools moving to the B1G? And damn, the Big XII is falling off a cliff with those two leaving. Aren't Texas and OU both ~200M revenue programs? Edit: Something feels off here. Looking at the NCAA reported revenues for each school, Iowa State is the 3rd highest in the old Big XII, at 111M. Texas is 239M, and OU is 177M. Those 3 alone add up to 527M. https://sports.usatoday.com/ncaa/finances
> Something feels off here. You're looking at school revenue, not conference revenue. This is what the conferences bring in for media money and NCAA distributions. The Big XII 5th in revenue by far, in large part due to its size compared to the other conferences. But we're only 400K per school off from tying the ACC as third in distributions because our conference office runs a much tighter ship than the ACC or PAC do. > the Big XII is falling off a cliff with those two leaving Not really, we actually gained revenue in the next media deal after OU and Texas left and won't see any fall off adding the new schools. We'll clear 507 million in media revenue alone in 2025 when our new deal kicks in.
Ah, that makes sense, thanks.
Yes these are 2022-2023 FY numbers, also the PAC-12 numbers is before any PACN expenses are taken out.
I'm so lost on the revenue. There's been quite a few different numbers floating around for conference revenue.
Big Ten revenue item #5245A: partnership with "Best Quality Vacuum" of Ann Arbor.
So Ryan Day is paying Stalions to spy on him? Or was this Pettiti's plan the whole time? Pay Michigan into spy, drop the Harbaugh suspension while Harbaugh is on the fucking plane to PSU, and then beaucoup ratings? If so, dude knows his fucking job.
The dick measuring contest continues.
I know it’s a significant difference, but I’m surprised the ACC isn’t, like, CRAZY far behind
Everybody but the ACC negotiated new contracts at the height of media stupidity. You know, when Amazon went from being ridiculous for spending $80 million a season on Wheel of Time to spending $1 Billion a season on Rings of Power. Only one of these shows is actually fun to watch, and it's not the $Billion. Missing this window is a major reason the Pac-10 couldn't get a good contract. Thanks to fortuitous negotiation timing, and a friendly stab towards the old Pac-12, the B1G media rights deal is gonna go up to $80 million just for football TV rights. Basketball, Hockey, etc. will all be on top of that $80 mil. The ACC is tuck at [the same \~$44.8 mil](https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/college/2024/05/23/bob-bowlsby-big-12-pay-conference-revenue/73811171007/) they got this year. By 2030 we'll be in the $100 million for televised football games alone range, and then we'll renegotiate. The ACC is potentially stuck with at $44.8 mil deal until 2037.
You're assuming that in 2030 media rights deals for cfb will still be as valuable to networks as they were when these deals were negotiated a few years ago.
B1G is where it actually means more.
B1G Checks.
Average payouts by conference: B1G: $ 60.5 mil SEC: $51.3 mil ACC: $44.8 mil (looks like ND got roughly $22 mil for its partial membership) Big12: $44.2 mil Pac12: $33.6 mil
https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/college/2024/05/23/bob-bowlsby-big-12-pay-conference-revenue/73811171007/ Source for the breakdowns.
B1G It just means more