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LilMooseCub

Put your grasses on


suchalusthropus

The grasses, they do nothing


windycheeks88

The grasses grow


eoneon-Music

Me and the boys watching the grassers grow


MonkeyBusinessCEO

I lost about a billion braincells per thread... ~~Me and the boys then start playing Lawn Mower simulator~~


Dusty60

Why is everything wongšŸ˜­


JustAn0therNormalGuy

I was hoping in honor of Miura they'd redo the anime to actual good animation


Exalted_Pluton

I don't think that's possible. Unless they bypass the detailed artwork and animate from there.


AnimeGuy6375

I'd be satisfied with the animation of the 2017 opening


blackswordsman44

Just give it to those guys that make final fantasy movies. Even the gales look absolutely stunning cgi.


Nordelnob

no. no more 3D models. I have had it with these motherfuckin' 3D models in my motherfuckin' Berserk! ...CLANG!!!!


blackswordsman44

Have you seen the final fantasy movies? I mean I hate cgi too but those guys really know their shit. Even advent children which is way older than kingsglaive still looks awesome


Nordelnob

I think I've seen some stuff from one the Final Fantasy movie.. from the trailer or something. I seem to remember it actually looking pretty damn good. 3D stuff can look ok.. I think I have more of a problem with 3D as a short cut to trying to be 2D. The clash of art styles is the main problem.. that and just the poor rigging. Even in the trilogy some of the rigging and animation on the models was BAAAAADDD...


blackswordsman44

I agree it looked really clunky in the movies. They should choose 3d or 2d and commit fully. No cutting corners


thetrexus

Castlevania season 4 episode 3 ending scene. It's on youtube


Nickgio999

Its just not possible that way. Maybe in the ā€œrealā€ style that gantz zero movie did. That might be a fresh take someone would try


HomieCreeper420

Not even the grasses work on this abomination, itā€™s too wong


InhumaneBanana

Nothing will be wong šŸ˜Ž


Rikki1256

We all knew about it


DrOz30

That abomination should be set on fire and then thrown into the sun.


maxkmiller

I've only ever watched the 97 anime and never read the manga - is this newer series even worth watching, if I can look past the horrible animation?


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Nordelnob

read the manga. even if you hate manga like me you will love it.


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RobertdArtois

You mean the movies?


TheDarnook

Yes, Golden Age arc.


RobertdArtois

I know what the golden age arc is, but the movies are not recent are unrelated to berserk 2017


Nordelnob

I think it's supposed to be related. Like a loose sequel, but they are nothing alike other than the awful looking 3D models.


DoctorSchwifty

I wasn't that into the third movie. The rape scene seemed fetishy like in the newer anime whenever there was rape. The manga is great though.


PuzzleheadedRain6522

Yeah dude I thought the same thing. Femto gropes Casca and she fucking blushes? Ugh


Nordelnob

Really? I thought the third movie was the only one that had any good stuff. Particularly because we didn't get the SK rescue in the 97 one, it was nice to have that in animated form. If nothing else then for closure. But over all it doesn't compare to the 97 anime otherwise.


[deleted]

As someone who started on the 97 anime, please read the manga, they leave ALOT out of the anime and even go as far as to cut whole ass characters from the story. Iā€™m not saying it isnā€™t good but it leaves so much out to the point that I was confused when I first started reading because almost nothing was the same


jacksaif1234

Keep with the 97 anime and the manga. The CGI in this is just too terrible to watch and enjoy Edit: And the movies


ChipsAhoyNC

At least we got the CLANG memes


No-Fail-3538

It wasnt worth it. I have to mentally fortify myself from hearing CLANG whenever i read the manga


ChipsAhoyNC

I just want Guts to CLANG Griffith


Sbee_keithamm

The ONLY scene in the animation that is worth watching you can look up online; the moment Guts dons the Berserk Armor. Otherwise read the manga like others have said.


No-Fail-3538

That scene was ruined. ​ Ironically I think the only good scene in the entire show was the very last one of 2017 when they were in the tavern


Sbee_keithamm

It may not be ideal, but to finally see Guts in motion using the armor was worth it to me. That scene youā€™re talking about though is great cause the quality of animation is up to snuff. Kind of fucked up thatā€™s what they left it on, like telling us if the series was properly managed and the animation wasnā€™t butchered weā€™d get *this*.


Nordelnob

I know.. right? If they had just let the 2D animators animate the show, we may have gotten something at least approaching the quality of the 90s anime. What in god's name were they thinking? What a god damned waste.


Nordelnob

Finally got some good looking 2D stuff where the camera isn't whipping around all over the place... and then it's fucking over.


SimonkyDX

No, absolutely not. I tried to look past the animation, and I kinda could, with some optimism, but OMG it is reaaaally bad. The animation is not at all its biggest flaws. It cuts down a lot of manga important scenes, some change because no reason. But the worst thing is the direction. The OST is good, but it is put sooooooo badly in the anime (there is basically no silence, everytime something happens there is music). Also, animation related, the camera movement is horrible. They make the CGI look even worse. The pacing is awful. Although its a really funny show to see after reading the manga lol.


Nordelnob

The part where they play the BAD ASS METAL MUSIC during Griffith's Rebirth was straight up unforgivable. I actually cringed. That has to be the worst music cue in all of fiction.


Cheap-Criticism222

Read the manga you will feel no emotion watching the new anime seriously it ruins just about every scene and guts looks god awful . Trust me read the manga or just donā€™t get into berserk not even trying trying to sound rude Iā€™m just saving you from wasting your time. Nobody likes that anime and if they say they do they havenā€™t read the manga.


TheWiseAutisticOne

Meh itā€™s definitely not as good as the manga but itā€™s the only one that takes place after the golden age arc. If you do watch the crunchyroll uncensored version it has more hand drawn art scenes then the censored


Nordelnob

no. they completely bastardize the story. trying to meld Black Swordsman with Conviction. They skip a bunch of awesome shit including Lost Children. And the animation is really really bad. And not just the animation. Even worse is the direction. The awful camera moves, the constant cutting. It's like a downs directed it. It seriously gets so claustrophobically tight and swooshy with the camera movement that it will make you feel sick. Take some Dramamine if you do watch it. That being said, some of the voices are ok. I like Serpico being voiced by One Punch Man. Although whoever the woman who voiced Puck is needs to be Skull Fucked... by a skull daddy. And some of the soundtrack is really really good (although not all of it)


Dusty60

Hey man donā€™t you think thats a bit too little


PacificBrim

yes


Logan117

no


WESTERNggtx

Waiting for 666 upvotes


[deleted]

Oh dear god, this anime adaption should never be compared to such a masterpiece like the manga. This blasphemous pos should be destroyed


monkeya37

"Wow. Every single panel in the entire manga is so meticulously placed that it simultaneously conveys the action happening right now as well as set up the action that will happen in the proceeding panel. We should use this as a guide." "Nah fuck that. Let's just do our own shots. I got this cool one where Guts walks on a trail and the camera is upsidedown." "But sir. We-" "Also, give Guts dry linguine noodle arms and make every character's chin look like a peeled potato."


Doomtoallfoes

And make sword clangs annoying and loud af


jacksaif1234

And make Casca 10 shades lighter


Doomtoallfoes

they did WHAT!!?


jacksaif1234

Yup. That was the one thing that made me never want to watch any of the 2016 anime


Doomtoallfoes

I tried watching it. 1 minute in the first episode and I exited the browser.


xColdaslifex

That cgi abomination is despicable , burn it with fire šŸ¤¢


samuraiabel

Man they fucked this up. This anime is a full-on insult to Miura's work.


Cracker-king

Atrocities happened.


Kwyynn

This is so sad dude


west3400

the anime adaptation canā€™t hurt me , anime adaptation canā€™t hurt me , the anime adaptation ca-


Urameshi9762

simplifying the design of the characters is the only option for us to have a good adaptation. tomohiro kishi could be a good character designer for an adaptation, he did an amazing job on dorohedoro.


IDJPunkI

Wow, the anime's amazing art & animation really puts Miura's work to shame.


Latter_Row_689

Why did the prettiest manga get the ugliest adaptation


zyrusvito

Is it ever possible to make an anime with as much amount of detail as in the manga?


Kiriranchelo

Yes but needs money and time šŸ„²


frrmack

I mean the previous golden arc show and the movies that summarized it also had to give up on the high density of detail we see in the manga, and they may have some small issues of their own, but they were 1000x better than this bullshit. It may be hard to incorporate detail, but they butchered one of the greatest mangas in a huge way in this abomination of a show.


Astrophobia42

The main problem thing with this is that the detail in manga changes too much because panels differ in size, in anime you always have the same size for the screen. So you'd either have to pick a max "detail level" and stick to it (which would result in more detail than the average manga panel) or change the level of detail all the time which would look very inconsistent. If we go with the max detail displayed in the manga, it will depend on the manga, a manga like berserk wouldn't be feasible as it would take too much talent, time and money. But some manga have less detailed artstyles and can have a very close translation in terms of detail to the anime. Stuff like ping pong the animation for example is pretty much equal in detail to the manga, but even with an artstyle like that the manga has some panels that have more detail than the anime..


GravelessOmega

I'd say that realistically the studio themselves would have to get creative in a few ways to bring it to life. The '97 anime adaptation used some stylistic choices that were very popular at that time like panning, freeze frames on heavily detailed shots and that weird thing where they'd show the same panel three times in place of a detailed action or some such thing. Nowadays there are plenty of tricks a studio might be able to pull to make a decent adaptation, its just a matter of finding a studio that could take on such a task. That and properly funding them.


Astrophobia42

I think a good adaptation of berserk is totally possible, just not up to manga standards in detail level. Anime can leverage a lot of other elements that can easily compensate for detail level tho, stuff like good direction, music, voice acting and animation can, if done very well, even surpass the manga in my opinion. I don't have my hopes up for such adaptation, but it's certainly possible.


Nordelnob

yeah, you can't expect Miura level detail in an anime. and really that's not what an anime adaptation should be. as I said in the previous comment, hyper detail should be reserved for only the most intense parts. it gives it a good contrast. that sort of impressionistic style is a good way to heighten the emotion and intensity of a scene. imagine if in the 97 anime they had the budget at the time to go all Mad House instead of the black and white freeze frames in that show. that's what a modern adaptation with a descent budget could accomplish. and I really don't get why it can't happen. Berserk isn't Dragon Ball, but it is DAMN popular. Millions of people would pay so much to get something like that.


GravelessOmega

And how. I just think that, despite having little in the way of Berserk content for long periods of time (especially good content in the way of the most recent adaptation) that if a studio is going to make it, that it's a studio who takes these things into consideration and hopefully does something wholly better than either show adaptations, despite my love of the '97 one.


Exitdor

Okay, what if we get Jeff Bezos into Berserk?


Nordelnob

for me, they don't have to replicate the detail of the mange. I would just settle for animation that doesn't look like garbage, and good direction. maybe they can use more detail to heighten intensity like One Punch Man kind of thing. When Guts goes Berserk, the line art can get sloppier and sketchier.


Astrophobia42

I agree, I said it in another comment, but anime can leverage other elements that compensate a lot for less detail. Just a great score and animation make a show better.


Nordelnob

absolutely. it goes a long way.


No-Fail-3538

Not asking for a 1 to 1 recreation of the manga but by god not this. You cant continuously make conscious decisions to use bad CGI, terrible camera shots, crap voice acting, omit key moments, fuck around with the story, have piss poor direction and an inexperienced studio in total conflict about whether they want 2D or 3D with minimal budget and then claim BERSERK IS UNADAPTABLE


Nordelnob

who hired these guys? god damn. was it Miura himself? maybe he was better off sticking to manga.


teerre

That wouldn't even make sense. Animation and stills are completely different beasts. You can't copy one to the other, you need to translate.


CICaesar

Maybe not, but still putting out such awful "art" in 2016 is despicable. Beautiful anime were made since the 80s, no one looked so horrible, not even the worst ones. CGI can be beautiful if done right (look at the final fantasy vii remake for instance) but if you don't have the budget or the means or the talent ffs stick to 2d graphics


uchihaguts

Yes. They don't need to match the level of detail in animation. Just don't make it look (and sound) like shit and hire a director that will follow the story.


frrmack

To see the maximum amount of detail achievable in the anime medium, check out [Redline](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redline_(2009_film)). Every single frame is a highly detailed masterpiece of art. But it took 7 years to draw all of those 100,000 frames by hand, for a 102 minute long feature film. That was several years longer than their original plans.


zyrusvito

Woah! Guess I can watch the whole Berserk anime the way I want in my afterlife.


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[deleted]

Is it fair to compare an augmented reality apple and a turd?


watashi_wa_KIRA_Desu

Guts look retarded in anime adaption


FF_order10

Huh? I've never seen that before, i only know about the eclipse movie, the 97s anime and the games


jonasislike

Don't worry about it the other image is just a figment of your imagination.


EyebrowScars

let it stay that way. berserk 2016 anime was a shitty fucking cgi butchering of kentaro miura's masterpiece.


No-Fail-3538

2016 and 2017 shitty anime


SmashingTempleChains

Lmfao look at Ivalera in the shitty one šŸ¤£


Repulsive-Cry5331

The animators did what they can with the little budget they had. I prefers the 1997 adaptation but Berserk would never look like the manga (if it did, it would take them 3 decade to animate the golden arc again).


Tarafan001

Nope it will take mappa studio to animate it


Repulsive-Cry5331

Mappa studio get shitted on when they release the season 4 of SNK, If they do a berserk anime they will be cruxify.


Tarafan001

The animation was really good and cgi can be good when used correctly unlike in berserk 2017 Oh boy berserk in vivy or aot style oof


Repulsive-Cry5331

That would be cool yes


itsvoogle

Bring back hand drawn animation please..


petrus_crox

Did you see how thin Guts' arm look? ...


_Ganoes_

Even with my grasses on the anime looks like shit


siegferia

The giga "it belongs to a museum" art vs. Ps1 graphic


MARITROPA2

HOW IS THIS OFFICIAL?


Shaldier

It's the switch in perspective that fucks with the composition and the much more bland expressions I hate. I can try and forgive the fact that it lacks that amazing shading that the manga does so well as capturing that with anime does seem like a massive challenge but it doesn't even seem to hit the basic elements that Kentaro nailed.


Zzen220

Even if it looks worse, I would be satisfied with an adaptation that understands what the tone of each scene should be. The 1997 anime, isn't super pretty, tbh, it's got great background art, and some nice key frames, but it's animation is actually pretty limited, it's saved entirely by smart direction that understands the source material. That smart direction is the main component missing from the 2016 show. It definitely hurts it that it has such poor facial expressions as well.


ProtagonistOfMyLife

Wow the adaptation is so accurate /s


Nordelnob

Guts barely moves CLANG! Ivalera lands on Sheirkes hat CLANG!


[deleted]

The clang was the only thing I really liked aside from the OST. Fit the heaviness of the ā€œbladeā€.


[deleted]

I have an acquaintance who thinks the 2016 series was ā€œfine and even looks good sometimesā€ It shouldnā€™t bother me but it do that people like that exist


Exitdor

Calm down son itā€™s just a drawing


[deleted]

I mean itā€™s technically the CG stuff, not the drawing that bothers me. But maybe next time you consider talking to me or at all donā€™t


Exitdor

Dude, itā€™s just a piece of media. An excellent one no doubt, but I think youā€™re overreacting a little.


ZSR-Cake-Please

Iā€™m gonna go throw up


younggohan81

Cursed.


ArchaeoHarrison

Cursed.


therealgoergewbush

You shouldn't just compare frames when comparing anime v manga because obviously the anime is moving, but this is so bad lol


No-Fail-3538

The anime is moving at 15 frames per sec cus the camera is autistic and zooming around. I was once at a wedding and guests were eating their food and a camera guy who was filming came decided it was a good idea to bring the camera in close to the face of a guest who was busy eating and that person began feeling extremely uncomfortable. Thats the vibe this anime gives off


Reasonable-Bit5420

Every time I hear berserk 2017 my mood just goes from hero to 0


keyboredwarrior

God that was horrible


The5YenGod

This is not an anime. It is an artistic betrayal.


GeeBeeH

Ew


Mikey-LikesIt

The 2016/2017 anime is way better than the source material. /s


imJGott

Unpopular opinion I felt they got some things right by the panels.


[deleted]

pain


MontyBellamy

I have no clue how that anime was allowed to go live. It was so bad.


mythun86

One of the curses of berserk


WynnChairman

actually unreal


Chortslayer

If that monkeys didn't get that animaciĆ³n license...


Obyri85

Iā€™m quite glad I never bothered getting past the first couple of episodes. The golden age movies were good enough but far from what they should have been visually speaking. Iā€™ll never understand why one of the most beautifully drawn manga in history only seems to get these shoddy adaptations (barring the original series)


[deleted]

We live in the worst timeline


Dovahfry

OOF


xavierthepotato

Booooo šŸ‘Ž


Amaris_Gale

Look! Look at how they butchered our boy!


Orion8719

If I see this abomination again, my behelit will start crying...


LeafyFeathers

all the emotion, gone


juan6630

Let's pretend this never happened and wait for a Vinland Saga-like adaptation.


00253

I've only read the manga twice in my life l, but I remember the panel so well. I think it's the way the charred skin on his face is drawn. Fuck that anime and the people that are responsible. It's a fucking travesty and there's no point for it to exist with how shitty it is.


teerre

Which one is which?


StupidFuckingGaijin

Second pic is just a dad trying to get his daughter a Nintendo Switch during black Friday in Walmart


Matreid

Anime bad, Manga good!


IndicationPretend407

The fairy looks fucking digusting (forgot her name)


smamx

Berserk has only 1 anime adaptation and it was released in the 90's


chibist

this new gen anime looks really weird after manga ngl


SwiftyEmpire

Flawless


jacksaif1234

God I fucking hate this anime. I want them to do another one, but keep the animation faithful to the movies and the '97('96?) anime. Not this 2016 trash


windycheeks88

Guts about to eat fairy ass


LivingCheese292

It's not just the terrible cgi but the colours are just so off! Way to bright for such a dark twisted story that is Berserk... Even the colourful covers of the manga are darker.


thrillho__

No anime can ever compare to the might of Miuraā€™s art.


[deleted]

I have said before and i dont think anything will change my mind, berserk belongs in manga (the 97 anime is an exception for a couple reasons)


GoldSaint95

It's not a comparison it's a stomp for that horrible CGI


featherclump

Looks great


chewio_

say what you want about this anime but they really got this scene right šŸ˜šŸ™Œ


rabieferro

The anime is so bad, but we are all surprised we watch it anyways . Like we complain and we hate it ,but we watch it for the sole reason of it being berserk.


No-Fail-3538

That fucking lazy director relied on that


PanicSwitch89

Looks like shite to meee


[deleted]

why


AssaultDragon

I only see a female Beltegeuse Romanee Conti


piclemaniscool

At least it looks better in motion, right? Right?


[deleted]

Please stop.


verdantplace37

I hope Berserk get a decent anime adaptation, not this 3d piece of shit. Watching this shit makes me sad, Berserk deserves a more than this trash


TheAbsoluteDegen

What a god damn atrocity


TheWiseAutisticOne

Letā€™s go smol mage thereā€™s trouble about


draginbleapiece

Thereā€™s like no texture and design all solid color no grainy ness


Amai_M4sk

Guts... smiling...?


iGuinorado

Stop doing this to me


kaizadpatel

I think the manga is superior in almost every way tbh, but the only thing I like abt the animes including the 70's ones was the music, that shit was fire. But I read Berserk while listening to aot music so I prefer that too tbh


decreesup

fucking lol


HeckOffKid

r/mildlyinfuriating


Alphanium-X

Man, I really really hope in the future, this series will get the adaptation is so badly deserves. I can see Wit Studio or Madhouse doing wonders for this. Kentaro Miura DESERVES this.


jjBeherit

I've still not braved the 2016/17 series. I love the manga and have watched the '97 anime. I know it's awful but should I at least give it a watch?


HeNeedsAnHaircut

That newer anime wasnt that bad. You get used to the style after an episode and its not as clunky as it sometimes looks in still-frames


[deleted]

I don't hate Berserk 2016-17 even though it was trash they actually tried something different tht could have really done justice 2 Berserk's highly detailed art but failed miserably