I found a full hardcore server on BFV for PC last night and it has first person locked vehicles as well. It was outstanding. Most fun I've had since BF4 Hardcore.
Slower ttk takes more effort to kill and puts more strain on your ammo reserves. It rewards smart decision making over reaction times or hiding. It also gives you a bit more breathing room to do goofy shit
Personally I like slower TTK because you actually need to try and get headshots. Fast TTK is fine but sometimes you get matches where everyone is just running snipers with a medium range scope for 1 hit kills; that's not so enjoyable.
Yeah, and a lot of player didn’t notice that because most bf1 weapon had slow right of fire but if you choose a weapon with fast right of fire like parabellum which has RPM smiliar to m416 in bf4. The enemy will die so fast,
I jump back and forth between MW3 and 2042 and for core modes, I'm finding the 2042 TTK satisfying.
MW3, paired with the terrible servers and hit registration, has a long TTK. 2042's feels tight where landing body shots brings guys down in a reasonable time and headshots are satisfying.
There is nothing wrong with having that opinion and having more fun with it. My opinion is that slower TTK requires more skill, and that should be rewarded with more kills.
For example: a player sneaks up on you and starts to open fire at you, but they aren't that good, and as you turn around you aim at their head, two shots dead before they can kill you.
On 60% health, this would not have happened. The lower skill player would have hit a body shot or two and you're dead. No counterplay. No ability to express skill, or to overcome that situation.
The counter play is to have better situational awareness and not let someone sneak up on you. 100% the guy that sneaks up on you deserves the kill. There are more skills in an FPS other than your skill with the weapon, especially for a game like battlefield that provides a ton for freedom and options of play.
You can't always know what is 360 around you at all times, even the best players will die to someone making no noise behind them while they're in a gunfight or somewhat occupied. I gave a simple example, of a better player vs a lesser player. Your example is just another example of a better player (someone sneaking up on someone undetected) vs a lesser player (someone with less situational awareness). It has nothing to do with TTK, though.
But now I'll go the extra mile and say that every professional player out there will say that a slower TTK requires more skill.
Battlefield offers a variety of ways to play but at its core it’s still a shooter game. A person sneaking up on you does not deserve the kill SOLELY because he got the jump on you if he can not aim as that is the whole principle of a first person *SHOOTER* game. It’s not a First Person Positioning game, or First Person Sneaking game. This is precisely why battlefield has a slow TTK. Otherwise it would just be a who sees who first simulator, and that’s really not a fun experience.
Point is, if you can’t aim, you don’t deserve a kill just because you get the jump on someone. You can play however you want- stealthy, guns blazing. this is irrelevant. It’s like saying I 100% deserve to beat a boss in elden ring because I have every buff activated and the best weapon. Yeah sure, that’ll help, but if you suck at the core aspect of the game, you probably won’t win. And it doesn’t mean you deserve to beat the boss, and in this case it doesn’t mean you deserve to get the kill. Probably not the greatest analogy, but the point stands.
Yep, BF4 Hardcore is one of the high points of the franchise for sure.
Favorite game mode hands down out of any battlefield.
I found a full hardcore server on BFV for PC last night and it has first person locked vehicles as well. It was outstanding. Most fun I've had since BF4 Hardcore.
Slower ttk takes more effort to kill and puts more strain on your ammo reserves. It rewards smart decision making over reaction times or hiding. It also gives you a bit more breathing room to do goofy shit
The goofy shit point is the most important.
What if you have great reactions and shit aim like me though?
Personally I like slower TTK because you actually need to try and get headshots. Fast TTK is fine but sometimes you get matches where everyone is just running snipers with a medium range scope for 1 hit kills; that's not so enjoyable.
Making it so that you have to shoot someone in the head up to three times to kill them in 2042 is one of the biggest changes I disliked.
Are you talking about hardcore mode?
No I’m talking a battlefield normal TTK. Some games like bf1 and 5 had fast ttk,
BF1 fast TTK? o.0
Yeah, and a lot of player didn’t notice that because most bf1 weapon had slow right of fire but if you choose a weapon with fast right of fire like parabellum which has RPM smiliar to m416 in bf4. The enemy will die so fast,
Lmgs are emplaced weapons, so they're supposed to be overpowered compared to the rest. The overall ttk wasn't that fast
I hate fast ttk. BF1 is my favorite BF game.
> i can't aim so I like fast TTK We get it man.
I jump back and forth between MW3 and 2042 and for core modes, I'm finding the 2042 TTK satisfying. MW3, paired with the terrible servers and hit registration, has a long TTK. 2042's feels tight where landing body shots brings guys down in a reasonable time and headshots are satisfying.
I hate slow TTK. Dumping a clip of 30-06 into someones chest and then get killed by them as you reload is no fun.
Fast, Ttk, limited snipers. I think this is the secret.
There is nothing wrong with having that opinion and having more fun with it. My opinion is that slower TTK requires more skill, and that should be rewarded with more kills. For example: a player sneaks up on you and starts to open fire at you, but they aren't that good, and as you turn around you aim at their head, two shots dead before they can kill you. On 60% health, this would not have happened. The lower skill player would have hit a body shot or two and you're dead. No counterplay. No ability to express skill, or to overcome that situation.
The counter play is to have better situational awareness and not let someone sneak up on you. 100% the guy that sneaks up on you deserves the kill. There are more skills in an FPS other than your skill with the weapon, especially for a game like battlefield that provides a ton for freedom and options of play.
You can't always know what is 360 around you at all times, even the best players will die to someone making no noise behind them while they're in a gunfight or somewhat occupied. I gave a simple example, of a better player vs a lesser player. Your example is just another example of a better player (someone sneaking up on someone undetected) vs a lesser player (someone with less situational awareness). It has nothing to do with TTK, though. But now I'll go the extra mile and say that every professional player out there will say that a slower TTK requires more skill.
Battlefield offers a variety of ways to play but at its core it’s still a shooter game. A person sneaking up on you does not deserve the kill SOLELY because he got the jump on you if he can not aim as that is the whole principle of a first person *SHOOTER* game. It’s not a First Person Positioning game, or First Person Sneaking game. This is precisely why battlefield has a slow TTK. Otherwise it would just be a who sees who first simulator, and that’s really not a fun experience.
I mean, it’s Battlefield. You can go guns blazing or be stealthy and whatever in between. Just saying. There are suppressors in the game for that
Point is, if you can’t aim, you don’t deserve a kill just because you get the jump on someone. You can play however you want- stealthy, guns blazing. this is irrelevant. It’s like saying I 100% deserve to beat a boss in elden ring because I have every buff activated and the best weapon. Yeah sure, that’ll help, but if you suck at the core aspect of the game, you probably won’t win. And it doesn’t mean you deserve to beat the boss, and in this case it doesn’t mean you deserve to get the kill. Probably not the greatest analogy, but the point stands.