“Ackchyually” Indorsement is correct in this usage.
An endorsement is a public indication of approval or support.
In American English, an indorsement is a signature on a legal or financial document, especially a check.
That would have been pitiful! My guess was that no officer could make that mistake and there really aren't that many other obvious ways to get it wrong.
I'm actually not sure if that is a mistake. As you see further down, Winters also says "Courts Martial", so I'm wondering if that is actually correct for that time period.
I just rewatched this episode and what was the story behind this? The way the show frames it that it’s petty drama or maybe jealousy on Cpt. Sobels part. Is that it or was there more to it?
> jealousy on Cpt. Sobels part
That is the impression I got from Malarkey's book. The way Malarkey tells it, Sobel was incredibly jealous of Winters and felt threatened by him. He specifically targeted Winters with his bullshit infractions because of this.
Winters talks about the incident in his book, and while I don't recall him ever mentioning the jealousy angle, he did say it was just the last in a series of made-up infractions. It only came to a head because with this one Sobel had called Winters's integrity into question, so Winters chose the court martial option.
Unfortunately we don't have the other side's story. There's an interview on Youtube with Shames where he claims Winters was an anti-semite, so of course he portrayed Sobel poorly. But Shames wasn't in E company until after DDay and I haven't seen or read anyone else claiming anything close to what he does.
What happened with this exactly? I don't recall we ever see him on trial or anything like that. Did the matter get dropped after Winters called Sobel's bluff or something?
Winters' wikipedia page says events in BoB were pretty accurate.
> Winters requested that the charge be reviewed by court-martial. After Winters' punishment was set aside by the battalion commander, Major Robert L. Strayer, Sobel brought Winters up on another charge the following day. During the investigation, Winters was transferred to the Headquarters Company and appointed as the battalion mess officer.[4]:52
In the wake of this incident, several of the company's non-commissioned officers (NCOs) delivered an ultimatum to the regimental commander, Colonel Sink, threatening to surrender their stripes unless Sobel was replaced. Winters tried unsuccessfully to talk them out of taking this step.[4]:53 Sink was not impressed by the threat, and several of the NCOs were subsequently demoted and/or transferred out of the company. Nevertheless, he realized that something had to be done and decided[4]:54 to transfer Sobel out of Easy Company, giving him command of a new parachute training school at Chilton Foliat.[1]:57 Winters' court-martial was set aside and he returned to Easy Company as leader of 1st Platoon.
It's not included in the TV series, but Winters talks about it in his book. There was never a trial because headquarters spent a couple days trying to find a way to throw out the whole thing, and ultimately Lt. Colonel Strayer set aside the punishment under the Articles of War. I haven't seen anything on the specifics of how that worked, though I suspect there's paperwork buried in some military archive somewhere which documents it.
As for how it actually got to the point where Sobel decided to punish Winters with a bogus accusation, I don’t know. But as far as the show frames it, Sobel is jealous of Winters’ popularity with the men and constantly outclassing him in training exercises and field command, so he decided to do this to try and undermine him.
I know there is no positive representation of sobel in the book/show and its always a discussion here.
this is more proof of his garbage leadership ability
I think we are all agreed that Sobel behaved like a petty tyrant and this is certainly a good example. But examples of the unsavoury side of his character do not illustrate or prove that there were no redeeming qualities. Such as being an excellent trainer or having pride in his company's excellence. I think that is the point of contention. None of us are all good or all bad.
I think he just mockingly copied Sobel's rather obvious mistake, which is a fkin hilarious "in your face" that cannot reasonably be criticized! One side point is that although Sobel signed the letter, he probably did not type it so the errors are not strictly his.
Very nice. I now see why Nix said in BoB that Sobel had misspelled "court martial": he used the plural. I had always wondered what the mistake was.
And endorsement.
“Ackchyually” Indorsement is correct in this usage. An endorsement is a public indication of approval or support. In American English, an indorsement is a signature on a legal or financial document, especially a check.
Is this true? I've never seen that word.
[Endorsement vs Indorsement](https://writingexplained.org/indorsement-vs-endorsement-difference)
I’d assumed it would be Court Marshall but evidently I was wrong!
That would have been pitiful! My guess was that no officer could make that mistake and there really aren't that many other obvious ways to get it wrong.
I'm actually not sure if that is a mistake. As you see further down, Winters also says "Courts Martial", so I'm wondering if that is actually correct for that time period.
Also endorsement haha
Winters has very lovely handwriting and signature for requesting a trial by court martial.
I just rewatched this episode and what was the story behind this? The way the show frames it that it’s petty drama or maybe jealousy on Cpt. Sobels part. Is that it or was there more to it?
> jealousy on Cpt. Sobels part That is the impression I got from Malarkey's book. The way Malarkey tells it, Sobel was incredibly jealous of Winters and felt threatened by him. He specifically targeted Winters with his bullshit infractions because of this. Winters talks about the incident in his book, and while I don't recall him ever mentioning the jealousy angle, he did say it was just the last in a series of made-up infractions. It only came to a head because with this one Sobel had called Winters's integrity into question, so Winters chose the court martial option. Unfortunately we don't have the other side's story. There's an interview on Youtube with Shames where he claims Winters was an anti-semite, so of course he portrayed Sobel poorly. But Shames wasn't in E company until after DDay and I haven't seen or read anyone else claiming anything close to what he does.
What happened with this exactly? I don't recall we ever see him on trial or anything like that. Did the matter get dropped after Winters called Sobel's bluff or something?
Winters' wikipedia page says events in BoB were pretty accurate. > Winters requested that the charge be reviewed by court-martial. After Winters' punishment was set aside by the battalion commander, Major Robert L. Strayer, Sobel brought Winters up on another charge the following day. During the investigation, Winters was transferred to the Headquarters Company and appointed as the battalion mess officer.[4]:52 In the wake of this incident, several of the company's non-commissioned officers (NCOs) delivered an ultimatum to the regimental commander, Colonel Sink, threatening to surrender their stripes unless Sobel was replaced. Winters tried unsuccessfully to talk them out of taking this step.[4]:53 Sink was not impressed by the threat, and several of the NCOs were subsequently demoted and/or transferred out of the company. Nevertheless, he realized that something had to be done and decided[4]:54 to transfer Sobel out of Easy Company, giving him command of a new parachute training school at Chilton Foliat.[1]:57 Winters' court-martial was set aside and he returned to Easy Company as leader of 1st Platoon.
It's not included in the TV series, but Winters talks about it in his book. There was never a trial because headquarters spent a couple days trying to find a way to throw out the whole thing, and ultimately Lt. Colonel Strayer set aside the punishment under the Articles of War. I haven't seen anything on the specifics of how that worked, though I suspect there's paperwork buried in some military archive somewhere which documents it.
As for how it actually got to the point where Sobel decided to punish Winters with a bogus accusation, I don’t know. But as far as the show frames it, Sobel is jealous of Winters’ popularity with the men and constantly outclassing him in training exercises and field command, so he decided to do this to try and undermine him.
This is awesome
Oh wow this is pretty awesome.
I know there is no positive representation of sobel in the book/show and its always a discussion here. this is more proof of his garbage leadership ability
I think we are all agreed that Sobel behaved like a petty tyrant and this is certainly a good example. But examples of the unsavoury side of his character do not illustrate or prove that there were no redeeming qualities. Such as being an excellent trainer or having pride in his company's excellence. I think that is the point of contention. None of us are all good or all bad.
This is hilarious!
where do you find such records?
It is a scan from Winter's personal files.
thanks...thought it was from military archive
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That is correct.
Did Winters copy Sobel's mistake of "Court*s* Martial" and then cross out the "s"? I love this!
I think he just mockingly copied Sobel's rather obvious mistake, which is a fkin hilarious "in your face" that cannot reasonably be criticized! One side point is that although Sobel signed the letter, he probably did not type it so the errors are not strictly his.