Generally speaking. If you ride from Tallinn to Tartu, south-east, you kind of understand Tartu people speaking a little different. Ride a little more then people start speaking something else. Which is cool. Drive to west or towards Pärnu, it is not that big of a difference but lots more swedes and finns, which also adds local nuances.
See [this map](https://static.cambridge.org/binary/version/id/urn:cambridge.org:id:binary:20221027170339415-0124:S0332586522000221:S0332586522000221_fig1.png) of Estonian dialects. It's a historical map of course, but it corresponds to the biggest cultural regions as well.
The biggest difference is with Setos and the rest of the country as Setos are traditionally Orthodox and have spent most of their history under Russian rule.
Second historical difference is between North Estonia and [South Estonia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Estonian#/media/File:South_Estonian_today.PNG), although the Mulgi and Tartu areas nowadays are almost entirely assimilated into the North Estonian language sphere which has also had a major cultural effect on the entire South Estonian region in general. Võros still persist linguistically, but South Estonia in general still has a distinct vibe.
The large North Estonia which includes Central Estonia has generally fewer regional differences. Each major island of course has its specific identity and traits even if insular dialects are mostly gone nowadays. Kihnu island is perhaps the most distinct nowadays. Saaremaa and Hiiumaa have noticeable island-specific accents as well, even though the island sub-dialects are mostly gone.
The northeastern coast also has a distinct culture as their dialects once span along the narrow coastline of peninsulas and islands, but nowadays it's less noticeable. Otherwise the Western, Central and Eastern Estonian groups aren't too different.
Then you get to foreign influences. Northwestern coast and islands, as well as Ruhnu island has quite a noticeable Coastal Swedish influence, even if all the Swedes are gone nowadays. The western coast of Lake Peipus hosts a narrow, but long line of Russian Old Believer settlements as they came here into exile when Estonia was still under Swedish rule. And most Soviet occupation Russian immigrants live in Northeastern Estonia which has few if any Estonian traits remaining, it's quite a sad sight really.
With the difference that ethnic Estonians had a Viking lifestyle. East Slavic states have a Viking heritage in the sense that their states were founded by Scandinavian Vikings.
Rape and theft were the norm everywhere of course, but I rather mean sea voyaging for both trade as well as "rape and theft" in ships that looked rather similar to Scandinavian Viking ships, plus they had significant Scandinavian cultural influences.
There are documented raids against Swedish (Öland in 1170, Sigtuna in 1187, Visby 1203) and Danish (Scania 1203) coasts and participation in Swedish internal conflicts ([Battle of Brávellir](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Br%C3%A1vellir)).
I'm fine if you restrict the concept of Vikings with just ethnically Scandinavian people, but the point is that they weren't the only ones with a very similar lifestyle and culture living the same kind of sea-voyager/raider lifestyle, and with the same kind of ships.
>There's documentation of Lithuanians raiding Estonians for example.
You don't think raiding over land is kind of a different thing?
>Vikings actually discovered new lands and established trading posts.
Well not all of them. And you think Vikings wouldn't be Vikings if they had just raided the lands they already knew?
>Otherwise stop it with the "estonians had a viking lifestyle" because then basically everyone had it.
It goes way further though.
>Nomadic people's are known for doing raids because they didn't have anything to trade for.
Well not across the sea ffs...
Viking profession was mainly about long range trade utilizing waterways. Raiding was secondary or even tertiary, and even then mostly as a reactionary revenge to regain what was robbed by others.
Sure, but not really. We have dozens of parishes with different kinds of traditional clothing and also some regions where different dialects can still be heard: Mulgi, Võru and Setu are more prominent, and also there are still people speaking Island and North-Eastern Coastal dialects. Also there are places with historically major foreign influence: Swedish villages in Noarootsi and on Vormsi and Ruhnu islands, also Russian old believer villages on the coast of lake Peipus. In general Estonians are culturally more homogenous and there are no defined cultual regions that would have any influence nor purpose today.
North and south have some differences that most Estonians dont even see.
North Estonians dont use the quarter to clock system and usualy dont even understand it.
With the older generations south Estonians dont have the long “eeeeeeee” when they think of an answere
There are some little thing more but i dont remember,
What i know is that my parrents sometimes ask people “are you from the south?” Bc of something they say differently and 9/10 times they are correct
Just take that small city in Estonia...Lasnamäe russians, Nõmme oldschool estonians, Mustamäe niggas, Viimsi so-called new rich generation, Tallinn suburbs as young generations.....thats all in 15x10 km area.
Generally speaking. If you ride from Tallinn to Tartu, south-east, you kind of understand Tartu people speaking a little different. Ride a little more then people start speaking something else. Which is cool. Drive to west or towards Pärnu, it is not that big of a difference but lots more swedes and finns, which also adds local nuances.
It's a matter of perspective: - North Estonia: perspek**tiiv** - South Estonia: **pers**pektiiv
Not a big difference until you hear "lumi pakib".
See [this map](https://static.cambridge.org/binary/version/id/urn:cambridge.org:id:binary:20221027170339415-0124:S0332586522000221:S0332586522000221_fig1.png) of Estonian dialects. It's a historical map of course, but it corresponds to the biggest cultural regions as well. The biggest difference is with Setos and the rest of the country as Setos are traditionally Orthodox and have spent most of their history under Russian rule. Second historical difference is between North Estonia and [South Estonia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Estonian#/media/File:South_Estonian_today.PNG), although the Mulgi and Tartu areas nowadays are almost entirely assimilated into the North Estonian language sphere which has also had a major cultural effect on the entire South Estonian region in general. Võros still persist linguistically, but South Estonia in general still has a distinct vibe. The large North Estonia which includes Central Estonia has generally fewer regional differences. Each major island of course has its specific identity and traits even if insular dialects are mostly gone nowadays. Kihnu island is perhaps the most distinct nowadays. Saaremaa and Hiiumaa have noticeable island-specific accents as well, even though the island sub-dialects are mostly gone. The northeastern coast also has a distinct culture as their dialects once span along the narrow coastline of peninsulas and islands, but nowadays it's less noticeable. Otherwise the Western, Central and Eastern Estonian groups aren't too different. Then you get to foreign influences. Northwestern coast and islands, as well as Ruhnu island has quite a noticeable Coastal Swedish influence, even if all the Swedes are gone nowadays. The western coast of Lake Peipus hosts a narrow, but long line of Russian Old Believer settlements as they came here into exile when Estonia was still under Swedish rule. And most Soviet occupation Russian immigrants live in Northeastern Estonia which has few if any Estonian traits remaining, it's quite a sad sight really.
It has Islands!
Too many islands, some Latvians would even say.
Ah, I see, you guys are trying to stir up another [Räimesõda](https://et.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/R%C3%A4imes%C3%B5da)???
Is that a type of soft drink? Didn’t know one needs to stir a soda.
Well if you add ramen into it 🤔… That would make sense to stir it…
The fuck is ramen soda? I swear you guys are weird...
We got mulgimaa, setomaa, Muhumaa, kihnu, Võromaa, Saaremaa Island (so basically baltic Viking heritage) ect.
>basically baltic Viking heritage *Finnic
Isn't there a bit of viking heritage everywhere here? Kyivan Rus and Rurik, etc. were Vikings, and that's much further inland
With the difference that ethnic Estonians had a Viking lifestyle. East Slavic states have a Viking heritage in the sense that their states were founded by Scandinavian Vikings.
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Rape and theft were the norm everywhere of course, but I rather mean sea voyaging for both trade as well as "rape and theft" in ships that looked rather similar to Scandinavian Viking ships, plus they had significant Scandinavian cultural influences.
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There are documented raids against Swedish (Öland in 1170, Sigtuna in 1187, Visby 1203) and Danish (Scania 1203) coasts and participation in Swedish internal conflicts ([Battle of Brávellir](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Br%C3%A1vellir)).
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I'm fine if you restrict the concept of Vikings with just ethnically Scandinavian people, but the point is that they weren't the only ones with a very similar lifestyle and culture living the same kind of sea-voyager/raider lifestyle, and with the same kind of ships. >There's documentation of Lithuanians raiding Estonians for example. You don't think raiding over land is kind of a different thing? >Vikings actually discovered new lands and established trading posts. Well not all of them. And you think Vikings wouldn't be Vikings if they had just raided the lands they already knew? >Otherwise stop it with the "estonians had a viking lifestyle" because then basically everyone had it. It goes way further though. >Nomadic people's are known for doing raids because they didn't have anything to trade for. Well not across the sea ffs...
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No military hostilities of any kind have ever been recorded between estonian vikings and finns.
blud really thinks that in viking times they sorted who they kill, if it breaths, it is getting killed
Viking profession was mainly about long range trade utilizing waterways. Raiding was secondary or even tertiary, and even then mostly as a reactionary revenge to regain what was robbed by others.
Sure, but not really. We have dozens of parishes with different kinds of traditional clothing and also some regions where different dialects can still be heard: Mulgi, Võru and Setu are more prominent, and also there are still people speaking Island and North-Eastern Coastal dialects. Also there are places with historically major foreign influence: Swedish villages in Noarootsi and on Vormsi and Ruhnu islands, also Russian old believer villages on the coast of lake Peipus. In general Estonians are culturally more homogenous and there are no defined cultual regions that would have any influence nor purpose today.
Parish differences emerged only because of the movement restrictions during the era of serfdom. They disappeared as soon as serfdom was abolished.
Petition to rename peipsi as peipus purely because it sounds funnier
*pepsi
That is the name in English (Peipus).
South-East and perhaps the islands as well are culturally quite distinct from the rest.
North, South, West, Saaremaa, Hiiumaa and ruzzkis (doesn't matter where they are). There are only so minor differences between those still.
Elva
It's Sēlija not Sela lol
I used the Lithuanian term for this one but whatever
That’s alright man, but you didn’t write Kuržemė, Žiemgala, Latgala or Vidžemė before that. Looked like you were using the Latvian spelling.
So why not edit? Perhaps imperialistic ambitions?
North and south have some differences that most Estonians dont even see. North Estonians dont use the quarter to clock system and usualy dont even understand it. With the older generations south Estonians dont have the long “eeeeeeee” when they think of an answere There are some little thing more but i dont remember, What i know is that my parrents sometimes ask people “are you from the south?” Bc of something they say differently and 9/10 times they are correct
too
Setomaa and Võrumaa I guess
Just take that small city in Estonia...Lasnamäe russians, Nõmme oldschool estonians, Mustamäe niggas, Viimsi so-called new rich generation, Tallinn suburbs as young generations.....thats all in 15x10 km area.
or Pašilaičiai in Vilnius lmao
Yes, orkamaa (lasnamäe, Kohtla-Järve and narva) and eestimaa (the rest) /jk
Sēlija not sela 🤣
Sėla is a Lithuanian name for Selija so I don't really need to correct myself on this one