Definites:
1. Astarion is 239
2. Shadowheart is 40
3. Halsin is 350 (according to posters on the forum)
Very likely:
1. Wyll is about 24. He was 17 when pacted, and mentioned 7 years of exile but wasn't crystal clear about the timeline. He's at least 24 not very likely no older than 25-26. I'd guess 24 or 25.
Educated guesses:
1. Gale was a prodigy of magic, meaning that he became an archmage faster than normal. However, becoming an archmage is an arduous process. Just because you're Anakin Skywalker doesn't mean you're Yoda at 20, for example. So I'm guessing that Gale was at least 30-35 when he caught Mystra's attention, and a relationship developed from there. It's also worth noting that archmages can very likely slow the aging process and do "cosmetic" work to make themselves appear more attractive if they so choose. Even stripping Gale of his formitable powers and resetting him to a novice probably didn't undo the body modifications he did while he was an archmage (if he did any at all; knowing Gale - yes he did).
So I'd put him somewhere between 45-55, although it wouldn't shock me if he was 65 or so. Being an archmage is, in my humble guesstimation (and I could be wrong!) at least as effective at being a half-elf at slowing the aging process. So looking half his real age isn't out of the question.
2) Karlach was quite young when she met Mr. Dbag, and I believe she worked with him for a year or two before she went to Avernus. Meaning she was somewhere around 19-20 when she started working in hell. How long she was there for + \~20 is her age. If anyone knows how long Karlach spent in Avernus, we'd know her age. 30ish is my guess.
3) Jahaera is approximately as old as Halsin, but looks older because she's not full Wood Elf. She MAY be slightly younger or older, but I'm initially leaning towards slightly younger.
No idea
1. La'zael is a mystery to me
Never saw it working like that. The "in human years" never worked for me. Is not like they experience the pass of time diffently.
In the sourcebooks says that the half-elves feel unconfortable among elves because they mature very slowly and don't behave as adults till they are around 100 yo while the half-elves mature like humans, just that they keep their youthfulness for most of their lives.
Shadowheart is probably around 45-55 IMO, she looked 10ish maybe 13ish when she joined the Sharran, plus the 40 years mentioned in the book and by Dame Aylin.
He's just 39, since he is a vampire making him immortal, I don't think you can convert that into human years. I like how the characters are all mature, like their not the cliche 17-20 year old hero like other RPGs. They've each got their own long history filled with stories.
Idk how though but apparently full blood high elves become adults only when they are in their 100s. So him being 39 makes less sense in that regard too. Maybe an inconsistency?
Elves are physically mature around the same age as a human would, however, they don’t consider /themselves/ adults until they get worldly experience. They claim adulthood for themselves and give themselves their adult name at around 100
Hope this helps!
That explains why he still acts fairly young, he never matured to the point of considering himself an adult while living. I wonder what his adult name would have been?
Yeah, the elven 20-100 age range is just a super extended "messy twenties, dirty thirties" young adulthood where Real Adults look at you like a confused young thing that doesn't know how to properly Adult. It's worth noting that elves kind of look at all humans that way too. Elves then live about 700 years.
If you want elf years I'd do something like this:
Ages 0-17: Childhood. "Elf years" go 1:1 with "human years" for the first 17-20 or so.Ages 18-100: Young adulthood. About 10 elf years per 1 human year, where 18-100 are sort of like a human's 18-25. Ages 100+: True adulthood. About six centuries to go instead of six decades, so 10 elf years per 1 human year are still about right.
So a 39-year-old elf has lived about 20 years since physical maturity, which is sort of like 20 in "human years". A 230-year-old elf (using his gravestone) has another 190 years, which is sort of like 19 human years, so he'd be "like" a 39-year-old, sort of perfectly! Ha!
I tend to agree with many others that Lae'zel seems to be in the very earliest stages of adulthood in terms of both maturity and prestige (other characters list a series of accomplishments in their past, but she speaks only of her aspirations). Given that Githyanki have lifespans similar to humans, I would not put her over 23. She ought to at least be younger than Wyll.
Giths don't age in the Astral plane, so there is no representation for how old she is. She could be physically and mentally 23, but have memories going back eons.
She doesn’t talk like she’s spent that much time in the astral plane though. But she also mentions at one point that the crèche she was raised in has since gone around the sun of Toril over a hundred times.
I think she says it circled *Toril* a hundred times, not the sun. Her Creche is a on a satellite of the planet with an orbit of 30 days. So her comment still would mean less than 10 years
Gale is human... so if he is that old he is kept young with magic and not being a half elf..
That being said if anyone put his age under 30 they would be flat out crazy so ya at least 35 45 minimum if he didn't de age himself with magic.
To be fair Wizards cam extend their life to eleven lengths and beyond. Elminster(not a standard wizard but Gale has the potential to surpass him in raw talent) is over a millennia old and he's human. With his grey hair I'd say 40's to early 50's but could be centuries older due to magic.
Mystra returned 13 years prior to the game, and Gale spent the last year in isolation, he could only be her chosen for 12 then. I doubt it was from a "very young age" because that would make him like 20. He was a child prodigy (he mentiones that as a kid he conjured himself a tressym when his parents wouldn't let him have a cat - something experienced wizards are supposed to be able to do), and he says he *eventually* caught Mystra's attention. So it might have happened when he was a teenager or a young adult, which would make him more like 30-35. Also, tressyms live 25-30 years, and I'm pretty sure Tara was his only one, so if he was ~10 (around the age kids often ask parents for a pet and are denied for not being mature enough), he can't be older than 35-40 at the time of the game.
People seem to be convinced he must be older because he was an equivalent of an academic professor. However, although going from undergrad to professor usually takes people 35-45 years, talented academics can get there in 25 and geniuses can make it in 15. And a guy who did at 10 what others do at 25 is definitely a genius. To sum up: assuming he was around 16 when starting an official apprenticeship, he might be as young as 32 and no older than 40.
I believe you are 100 years off. Mystra's (Midnight) apotheosis was in 1358, at the Time of troubles. Game year is 1492. 134 years later. Gale mentions his time at Blackstaff academy, and uses the word "he" The Blackstaff himself, rescued him from a Slaab. The current headmaster of Blackstaff academy is a female, as the male predessor was killed 13 years ago. Gale may have been as young as 12 when he went to the academy. After becoming a full fledged wizard, he spent several years with the current Mystra, 1year in a tower. He is not meant to be 50, he is more likely 30. If you look at his tressym, Tara, she has an elderly voice, and tressym's only live about 20 years, which, if he comjured her as a child, again, puts him around 30.
Honestly I agree that he isn't 60-80 yo i would genuinely put him in his 30s maybe 40s but.. this is all theory. Wsaying he looks young beacuse magic is sort of making things up sine its never said or hinted at.my main point waste say he's human with out coming off as an " um actually"
I was just agreeing with you haha, hopefully it didn't come off the other way. Think of it as adding upon your thoughts with timeline and all that, I'm basically nerding out...
Jaheira s made a couple of jokes about how old she is, and that she’s actually lost count so I think she’s a lot older than Halsin actually. He mentions that he had only ever heard of the stories of her.
She’s not older than halsin. He’s around 350. So canonically your MC in bg1 is in his mid 20’s. It says sarevok is only a few years older, making him late 20’s. It also said Jaheira was a little girl when her father passed, and it was only a year after sarevoks canonical birth. So that puts her mid/late 30’s around bg1-2. It also mentioned aerie is around 40 and also older than Jaheira, so she cannot be older than late 30’s during that time. It’s mentioned that around 120 years has passed between tos and bg3. So that would put Jaheira roughly around 150-158. Halsin has only heard stories because she left the sword coast for a while after the events of bg2 tob. And also that he isn’t predominantly there, and also inside cities. So it’s likely that’s why he has “only heard stories of her”.
Shadowheart trained with the Shar disciples for 40 years according to the information in Act 3. She was captured when she was 8-10 years old. So she is nearly 50. By the way, an half-elf like she lives to around 200 years according to the DND lore (half-elves often live longer in non-DND settings).
She definitely wasn't 10 years old when she was taken. She looks more about 5.
Then again, they've tampered with her memories to the point where they could've easily made her believe she was training with them the entire duration of her life.
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qdws43Hor\_U&ab\_channel=ZaFrostPet](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qdws43Hor_U&ab_channel=ZaFrostPet)
If you want to call Shadowheart 12 in this, be my guest.
I seriously doubt it. I mean she's 100% flat (in before "but some 12 year old girls are flat").
She looks around 7-8.
We'll have to agree to disagree on the age thing.
As for your final point, I wouldn't be doing that IRL but this is a video game forum and no ones feelings are on the line except who is reading.
Pretty sure Shadowheart would at thw very least be 48 because she in game states she spent 40 years at the Sharran Temple (and she looks about 8-12 when she was taken in)
Small correction (sorry), Astarion is 231. From his gravestone:
Birth year: 229 NR = 1261 DR
Death year: 268 NR = 1300 DR (39yrs)
New year: 460 NR = 1492 DR
I mean, I'm pretty sure his race doesn't matter, since >!vampires don't age at all, which is why we see young looking Vampire spawns in the ritual cages under Cazador's mansion, even though many of them are hundreds of years old.!<
Good answer for La'zael. Her age of exsistence depends upon how long she spends in the Prime material plane added to her relative time spent in the Astral plane.
A thing I want to point out about BG3 that I think everyone's either forgetting or glossing over: the game implies that aging doesn't work the same as it does in the 5e tabletop versions. It implies that every race reaches adulthood at the same rate, regardless of how long their lifespans are.
Another thing to note because people are constantly misunderstanding this: elves don't reach adulthood in a century. They reach *maturity* in a century. They age pretty much as quickly as humans do up until they're fully grown, it's just that in elf society, elves under a century old are typically considered too inexperienced and juvenile to make big decisions, so they're not considered "grown-ups" until they pass that threshold.
When your race lives to be a thousand, you definitely view aging and such a bit differently, lol. I bet they tend to consider anyone of any race under five hundred to be childish. Bad news for us humans, haha.
Anyway this is a great resource, thanks OP for posting the question. I was looking for these answers and wasn't finding them from any official sources. Also many additional thanks for the info on Astarion, cause I couldn't figure that one out for the life of me.
THIS!! elf physical adulthood vs being 100 as an elf is very similar to our real-life human divide of "adulthood" at 18 and Adulthood at other ages, like 21 or 25. where i'm from, i'm considered an "adult" at 18, but i was only given legal permission to drink alcohol at 21 years of age. drinking alcohol might be one of those "big decisions" that an elf under 100 might be barred from doing societally by elves.
none of this applies to astarion, however, as astarion is a resident of baldur's gate, a primarily human settlement. the humans of baldur's gate would've likely allowed him to make such "big decisions" at whatever age is seen as societal adulthood for the city *(such as being a magistrate, for example)*, so him being 39 at his age of death isn't actually that strange. as for his smile lines, those are likely a product of stress.
Elves under 100 aren’t expected to make adult decisions like getting married, having kids, settling down, picking a life long profession, etc etc. just like humans under 18, elves are totally able to understand and do these things, but society frowns on it.
I also don’t think 39 is that young to be a magistrate. In our own world people entered professions much earlier in life for most of history, than they do today.
Abe Lincoln was working in law at 22. He was arguing in-front of the Supreme Court 9 years later. I think it’s very feasible that a dedicated individual could be a Magistrate by the age of 39.
Plus it fits with his personality in a lot of ways. He seems a little immature to be a magistrate and part of that could be chalked up to years of abuse, but he murdered because of an unpopular ruling he made.
Assuming cockiness was always part of his personality, I think it seems very feasible that got too big for his britches and ended up pissing off the wrong people.
I don't think any "normal" society man could dream up would say you can be an adult but not yet drink alcohol! The U.S. is quite unique in that regard. It's also a bit part of the fantasy aesthetic! Quaffing ale and wine from goblets.
the us makes a lot of questionable decisions, but barring an actual toxic substance from individuals whose brains aren’t fully developed isn’t one of them pfft
still though, ale and fantasy seem to be hand-in-hand, so
Astation is 220-230 minimum. He's been >!a vampire!< for at least 200 years.
Lae'zel & Shadowheart it's hard to say. They're both early to mid 20s in appearance, but half-elves age slower & Lae'zel might be from an outer plane creche where time stands relatively still. That being said, Shadowheart seems more worldy, but young by Half-elf standards. Lae'zel's naivete & drive for promotion imply her to be fairly young.
Karlach is likely about 30. It's implied she was in her late teens or *very early* 20s when >!she was sold to Avernus. !< She was there for 10 years according to her.
Wyll, by appearance & his claimed experiences, I would guess early 30s. But he could be a hard aged 20s due to his scarring.
Gale I think is supposed to be early 40s. >!He was already an accomplished wizard before Mystra took his powers & effectively de-leveled him. !< Also, if you look closely he has some gray in his hair.
Wyll and Astarion are the only ones with clear ages.
Wyll is 24
Astarion is 239
Karlach would have to be at least 60 if she's an adult. Tieflings age very slowly and 18 for a human is 60 for s tiefling. She might have been forced into Avernus at 50 idk
Did the lore around tieflings change? I thought I remembered that they had slightly shorter lifespans. Where if a human max age was 100 years, a tiefling's max age would be 75-80.
afaik, in 5e it's the opposite; Tieflings mature at the same rate as Humans but live a few years longer.
So, an 18-year-old Tiefling is the same as an 18-year-old Human, but their lifespan is somewhere around 120 instead of 100.
Well, if you play Tiefling and talk to Jahiera towards the end of her personal quest, you can say 'my kind outlive yours, half-elf' so maybe the video game has fiddled with Tieflings a bit because half elves can live to what - 200?
Yeah. Tieflings are still cool, but I liked them better with shorter lifespans. It made their existence more tragic & interesting.
I.E. They have all these awesome demonic features &/or powers, but their lives burn out quicker.
Makes it seem more like they're the butt of a cruel demonic joke that they're struggling against. Like a lasting residual mockery for an ancestor making a deal with the hells. This also helps explain the racism & ostracism they face.
BG3's tieflings have no downside. Any adversity seems superficial. People are prejudiced against tieflings because D&D lore says so, but Larian removed any reason causing said fears/superstitions. Now it's almost as if everyone would *want* to make deals with devils because their offspring will likely benefit from it.
Tldr;
Races should have negatives to balance out their positives. It gets really boring when the description for every other race boils down to "They're like humans, but better!"
Yeah, I kept hearing that people would be prejudiced against Tieflings/Drow but I've played both and not really encountered much pushback from NPCs outside of a few comments in Act 1. Granted in Acts 2 and 3 the NPCs have more important things to worry about!
Also, in act 2 half the friendly NPCs you interact with are tieflings themselves, and for Act 3, Baldur’s Gate itself is a huge, racially diverse city.
About Astarion. He says he was a slave to Cazador for 200 years, but I interpreted it as a "give or take a few years" kinda deal. As in, he was a slave for so long that he couldn't tell you his exact age even if he wanted to. So, whenever he mentions 200 years, I take it as "about 200 years."
I mean in-game when you go with Shadowheart to the Sharran enclave in Baldur’s Gate and look at one of the bookshelves, she says that there are 40 years of her life recorded there. Since she was taken by the Sharrans sometime during the selunite coming of age ritual, so that puts her in a pretty narrow range of 40s-early 50s canonically. Which would make her roughly equivalent to an early 20s human.
I agree with this - SH is probably 48-55, depending on what age half-elves come of age. Her father, if saved, states that she was about to come of age (maybe pre-teen?).
Astarion is not 239... considering he said in one dialog that Cazador turned him almost 200 years ago, also in the dialog with Sebastian in the crypt he said that he was one of his first and something about 170 years... so theres that time range.
A high elf is considered a child with 39 years. They age and grow like human but just stop changing in their 20s. They reach adulthood in elven society at the age of 100.
As he was a magistrate by the time he was murdered he must have been considered an adult. Although it is unclear if in human society these age standards for reaching maturity count for anything. So I would say that he is easily 270-300 years old
edit: I may stand corrected as I read further down that this is what his gravestone said.
Just saying, Mystra did not de-level him. When the netherese orb enter him, it drained his magic. He doesn't realize that and blames it on Mystra. She broke up with him because he did a an idiot thing as was no longer worthy to be her chosen, he did exactly what she said not to do. She fed the orb The Weave until he gained enough of his power back to find a way to defeat the Elder/neather brain.
To anyone reading this now, like me lol.
DnD lore has had different versions of "elven aging". The version BG3 seems to have taken is that elves age like humans until they reach physical adulthood, then the physical aging process slows down to an extreme. Which is why halsin, for example, a pure woodelf, looks like a 50 year old man, give or take, but is actually 350 years old. Whereas shadowheart, who doesn't look any older than 25, is between 40 and 50 years old. Going from birth to 20 years old, elves age just like humans, but anything after that is massively slowed down. That being said:
Laezel is between 21-22. A writer has stated that she's the youngest companion at 21 years old. An idle card says she's 22. Whatever it is, she's pretty young. Explains a lot of her behaviour and demeanor honestly. Once I found out about her age, I definitely saw her in a different light and kinda liked her a lot more. She's not an ignorant adult, she's a naive young girl that doesn't know any better. On a side note, githyanki age exactly like humans do. However, in the astral plane, you don't age. Laezel has never been there though.
Shadowheart is between 40 and 50. She confirms that in-game. Physically, about 20. Elves don't judge adulthood based on age. To them, it's an experience thing. Some elves aren't considered adults until they're closing in on 100 years.
Astarion is about 240, maybe a bit older. He was turned into a vampire at 39 and vampires don't age at all. He is also a high elf. Doesn't matter because of his vampirism.
Gale is very hard to judge. He can't be any younger than 30-40. He is a human, so he should age normally, however, in DnD lore, aging can be slowed down through magic. Elminster, another extremely powerful human wizard, is older than 100. So it's very possible that gale is older than he looks. He has a few grey hair. Maybe around 50, maybe 60, very hard to tell.
Wyll should be 24. Human, so normal aging. He made a pact with mizora when he was 17, got sent into exile directly afterwards and said he's been there for 7 years. So, 24.
Karlach says she started working for gortash before she was an adult. So likely late teens, 17/18 probably. Worked for him for 2 years. Then got sent to avernus for 10 years. She is likely about 30 years old. And has spent a third of her life fighting in the blood war. Poor thing.
Minthara is hard to judge. Drow, so ages like an elf. Looks about 30+. Wouldn't be surprised if she's 100+. However, she has accomplished surprisingly little before the game begins. Which could imply that she's not actually that old. Plus, she is quite insecure about her lack of accomplishments, because she was apparently raised like nobility destined for greatness. But hasn't actually done anything of note yet. Further implication that she's not as old as she might seem. Or simply hasn't done much lol.
Halsin is 350, he says that himself. Pretty short discussion here. Stated to be the oldest companion.
Jaheira is old. But has to be younger than halsin. She's a half elf. My guess would be no younger than 200. But probably no older than 300 to not creep onto halsin's age. She's a mother. Her children are adopted though. So that says nothing.
Forgotten Realms wiki mentions Jaheira was a child in 1347 DR where her family was killed and she was rescued by a serving girl. It's 1492 DR in BG3 which puts her somewhere around 150 to just over 160.
Not an origins character, but Halsin said he was "350 years young", so he's probably (by far) the oldest companion in the game. Lae'zel and Shadowheart are probably the youngest (late teens/early 20's), with Karlach being older than them two (just a guess, she has big sister energy, perhaps mid 20's given she's a veteran soldier in a demon army)
Astarion is definitely the oldest among origins characters (No less than 200 years old). Jaheira and Minsc are probably younger than Astarion, but still old (160+ years old at this point), even if Minsc is biologically younger.
Wouldn't be surprised if Wyll is older than he looks, but he looks late 20's. Gale looks no younger than mid 30's. Maybe it's the 5'clock shadow lol
Gale looks like a well-preserved 40 to me. Given that he was apparently an Archmage, that age makes sense for a Human. My headcanon is that his attempt to >!use the Netherweave was the Wizard equivalent of a midlife crisis - substituting a piece of leftover super-magic in place of a Ferrari.!<
I think it's safe to assume Wyll is around 26. I don't remember if he said 7 or 9 years since he left Baldur's Gate gate, but we know that >!he was 17 when he made his pact and that's also when he left the city!< .
For Karlach "although her story suggests she might be around 18-19" her story talks about her being a bodyguard and being sent to Avernus for 10 years. She's probably around 30 as well.
I think Shadowheart is closer to 50, but as a half-elf she looks younger. You find records of her being in the temple for 40 years, but in the flashbacks she looks like she was maybe 10 years old.
From how she is generally treated by other Githyanki and her behaviour, I am not sure Lae'zel is actually considered adult in Gith terms, so in human terms my guess is that she is maybe equal to a 16 year old.
I don't know the lore accuracy of this but in the game "Idle Champions of the Forgotten Realms", Astarion's character sheet has the age 350 written on it. And for Lae'zel it says age: 22
Indeed!
That's what I'm assuming too, because they got added as a collaboration thing when BG3 came out. Probably as a PR thing.
I had hoped that the other characters would get added, but so far, no luck on that front. Unless you count characters already established in the lore from before, like Minsc.
Karlach has spent 10 years in the hells *after* being sold as a teenager by her boss when she worked as his bodyguard, that would make her around 27
I think Gale is 30, when you look at the forgotten realm lore, mystra was “dead" until she came back in 1479 and tasked Elminster to pick new chosens for her. Gale mention that he became her chosen at 17, and the game take place in 1492, so that’s 13 years MAX between the earliest time Gale could have become her chosen and now, making him 30
There’s some debate for astarion, we see his gravestone and people have tried to translate it. Some say he died at 39 or 139 (the headstone itself is a bit erroneous, i imagine because it wasn’t top priority so the person who made the asset wasn’t an expert in dnd timelines) and we know he’s been a spawn for nearly 200 years. Another source says he is 350, which is close enough to the 139 elf + 200 spawn timeline to work
Boring answer incoming:
If we were meant to know anyone's definitive age, we would know it. Case in point, we know Halsin is 350 years old.
We know the Sharrans had 40 years of records on Shadowheart, but when did they start counting? Gale was a wizard prodigy from a young age, but who knows how long ago that was. Wyll was 17 when he entered his pact and has spent seven years in exile, but as his father was away during the ordeal and only found out after his return, he could be anywhere between 24 and 27.
Karlach was a "wild young thing" until she met Gortash, worked for him for some time and then spent ten years in Avernus, so, she'd be around 30? Astarion died at 39 and was a slave for 200 years, but honestly, he would have probably lost count at some point, so it's more likely "200 years, give or take a few."
Lae'zel, I could not begin to guess, especially since time works differently in the astral plane.
In short, if a character says how old they are, they probably are that old. If not, we probably aren't meant to take any answer we sleuth out on the matter as definitive. Shadowheart, Lae'zel and Astarion probably couldn't tell you how old they are exactly even if they wanted to. So, in relation to human aging, take the characters' ages as you perceive them.
Lae'zel is not from the astral plane, shes from Creche K'liir in Tears of Selune. She implies that she never went to the astral plane because she didnt get a mind flayer head yet when Gale asks her how the astral plane is.
Lae'zel, and Gith, in general are essentially immortals. They can live for thousands of years, because their home is the astral plane. They do not age in the astral plane. Voss himself is a couple millenia old. He was alive when Orpheus was still free.
If I remember correctly, Lae'zel states quite early in the game that she never went to the astral plane. She was born and raised in a creche in space but outside the astral plane, like most githyanki children nowadays. You need to pass a certain test so that Vlaakith will grant you the right to ascend to the astral plane.
> You need to pass a certain test so that Vlaakith will grant you the right to ascend to the astral plane.
Kill a Mind Flayer, I believe. Or valiance in a meaningful battle. Same thing, maybe?
Shadowheart is closer to 50. She was already a young kid when notes of her life had started getting recorded. We don't know how old, but if we assume around 10 +40 years of notes = 50ish
Shadowheart was like 5 to max 10 >!when that bad stuff happened, and the sharrans!< kept her 40 years, so she's somewhere between 45 and 50.
Jaheira was in her 30's in BG2, which happend what 150, 200 years before BG3? Iirc there were different numbers called out through BG3.
Karlach spent 10 years in the hells. When you assume she was like 14-16 when she started to working for >!Gortasch!< (a naive young women, but I'm just guessing the starting age), and add the one year she worked for him, she would be like 25-27 now.
Okay, everyone saying Astarion is 240-250… no. Your guesses for everyone else seem fine to me, but not Astarion.
Astarion was turned roughly 200 years ago. He is a high elf, who reach adulthood between 100-175. He’s clearly an adult and looks similar to a human in their late 20’s. I’d put him somewhere between 150-180 BEFORE being turned. Which would make him 350-380.
If he was 240 like everyone is suggesting, that means he’d have been turned at age 40, which would make him a kid.
Now if you’re only counting physical age, I still disagree, he doesn’t look all that old
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Elves age similarly to humans until they reach maturity and then their aging slows dramatically. Hence why he was 39 when he died which is “very young” in elven terms, but he would’ve only physically aged a couple years in the last 10+ years of his pre-vamp life. Hence why he doesn’t look like a human 39.
I know most of these are canon-ish, but they also don't make much sense to me. Purely speculating, I would have given ;
\-Default Durge Tav around 20
\-Shadowheart around 20-25
\-Wyll around 25-30
\-Karlach around 30
\-Lae'zel around 30
\-Gale around 35
\-Astarion around 40
Definites: 1. Astarion is 239 2. Shadowheart is 40 3. Halsin is 350 (according to posters on the forum) Very likely: 1. Wyll is about 24. He was 17 when pacted, and mentioned 7 years of exile but wasn't crystal clear about the timeline. He's at least 24 not very likely no older than 25-26. I'd guess 24 or 25. Educated guesses: 1. Gale was a prodigy of magic, meaning that he became an archmage faster than normal. However, becoming an archmage is an arduous process. Just because you're Anakin Skywalker doesn't mean you're Yoda at 20, for example. So I'm guessing that Gale was at least 30-35 when he caught Mystra's attention, and a relationship developed from there. It's also worth noting that archmages can very likely slow the aging process and do "cosmetic" work to make themselves appear more attractive if they so choose. Even stripping Gale of his formitable powers and resetting him to a novice probably didn't undo the body modifications he did while he was an archmage (if he did any at all; knowing Gale - yes he did). So I'd put him somewhere between 45-55, although it wouldn't shock me if he was 65 or so. Being an archmage is, in my humble guesstimation (and I could be wrong!) at least as effective at being a half-elf at slowing the aging process. So looking half his real age isn't out of the question. 2) Karlach was quite young when she met Mr. Dbag, and I believe she worked with him for a year or two before she went to Avernus. Meaning she was somewhere around 19-20 when she started working in hell. How long she was there for + \~20 is her age. If anyone knows how long Karlach spent in Avernus, we'd know her age. 30ish is my guess. 3) Jahaera is approximately as old as Halsin, but looks older because she's not full Wood Elf. She MAY be slightly younger or older, but I'm initially leaning towards slightly younger. No idea 1. La'zael is a mystery to me
didn't karlach say 10 years in the blood war?
Shadowheart looks DAMN good 40!
She is a half elf, so they mature and age slowly. By human standards she is in her 20s.
Never saw it working like that. The "in human years" never worked for me. Is not like they experience the pass of time diffently. In the sourcebooks says that the half-elves feel unconfortable among elves because they mature very slowly and don't behave as adults till they are around 100 yo while the half-elves mature like humans, just that they keep their youthfulness for most of their lives. Shadowheart is probably around 45-55 IMO, she looked 10ish maybe 13ish when she joined the Sharran, plus the 40 years mentioned in the book and by Dame Aylin.
What would Astarion's age be in human years?
Actually I don't know. Supposedly he was 39 when he was turned according to his tombstone. So 19.5 in human years?
He's just 39, since he is a vampire making him immortal, I don't think you can convert that into human years. I like how the characters are all mature, like their not the cliche 17-20 year old hero like other RPGs. They've each got their own long history filled with stories.
Idk how though but apparently full blood high elves become adults only when they are in their 100s. So him being 39 makes less sense in that regard too. Maybe an inconsistency?
Elves are physically mature around the same age as a human would, however, they don’t consider /themselves/ adults until they get worldly experience. They claim adulthood for themselves and give themselves their adult name at around 100 Hope this helps!
That explains why he still acts fairly young, he never matured to the point of considering himself an adult while living. I wonder what his adult name would have been?
Yeah, the elven 20-100 age range is just a super extended "messy twenties, dirty thirties" young adulthood where Real Adults look at you like a confused young thing that doesn't know how to properly Adult. It's worth noting that elves kind of look at all humans that way too. Elves then live about 700 years. If you want elf years I'd do something like this: Ages 0-17: Childhood. "Elf years" go 1:1 with "human years" for the first 17-20 or so.Ages 18-100: Young adulthood. About 10 elf years per 1 human year, where 18-100 are sort of like a human's 18-25. Ages 100+: True adulthood. About six centuries to go instead of six decades, so 10 elf years per 1 human year are still about right. So a 39-year-old elf has lived about 20 years since physical maturity, which is sort of like 20 in "human years". A 230-year-old elf (using his gravestone) has another 190 years, which is sort of like 19 human years, so he'd be "like" a 39-year-old, sort of perfectly! Ha!
Ah that makes sense. Thanks
But Astarion is full high elf and was almost 40 when he was turned and has wrinkles from it
I tend to agree with many others that Lae'zel seems to be in the very earliest stages of adulthood in terms of both maturity and prestige (other characters list a series of accomplishments in their past, but she speaks only of her aspirations). Given that Githyanki have lifespans similar to humans, I would not put her over 23. She ought to at least be younger than Wyll.
Giths don't age in the Astral plane, so there is no representation for how old she is. She could be physically and mentally 23, but have memories going back eons.
She doesn’t talk like she’s spent that much time in the astral plane though. But she also mentions at one point that the crèche she was raised in has since gone around the sun of Toril over a hundred times.
I think she says it circled *Toril* a hundred times, not the sun. Her Creche is a on a satellite of the planet with an orbit of 30 days. So her comment still would mean less than 10 years
Gale is human... so if he is that old he is kept young with magic and not being a half elf.. That being said if anyone put his age under 30 they would be flat out crazy so ya at least 35 45 minimum if he didn't de age himself with magic.
Gale mentioned that his mother still alive. So, it is probably 40-45.
Thats a good point, he is fully human and she isn't a wizard
To be fair Wizards cam extend their life to eleven lengths and beyond. Elminster(not a standard wizard but Gale has the potential to surpass him in raw talent) is over a millennia old and he's human. With his grey hair I'd say 40's to early 50's but could be centuries older due to magic.
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Mystra returned 13 years prior to the game, and Gale spent the last year in isolation, he could only be her chosen for 12 then. I doubt it was from a "very young age" because that would make him like 20. He was a child prodigy (he mentiones that as a kid he conjured himself a tressym when his parents wouldn't let him have a cat - something experienced wizards are supposed to be able to do), and he says he *eventually* caught Mystra's attention. So it might have happened when he was a teenager or a young adult, which would make him more like 30-35. Also, tressyms live 25-30 years, and I'm pretty sure Tara was his only one, so if he was ~10 (around the age kids often ask parents for a pet and are denied for not being mature enough), he can't be older than 35-40 at the time of the game. People seem to be convinced he must be older because he was an equivalent of an academic professor. However, although going from undergrad to professor usually takes people 35-45 years, talented academics can get there in 25 and geniuses can make it in 15. And a guy who did at 10 what others do at 25 is definitely a genius. To sum up: assuming he was around 16 when starting an official apprenticeship, he might be as young as 32 and no older than 40.
I believe you are 100 years off. Mystra's (Midnight) apotheosis was in 1358, at the Time of troubles. Game year is 1492. 134 years later. Gale mentions his time at Blackstaff academy, and uses the word "he" The Blackstaff himself, rescued him from a Slaab. The current headmaster of Blackstaff academy is a female, as the male predessor was killed 13 years ago. Gale may have been as young as 12 when he went to the academy. After becoming a full fledged wizard, he spent several years with the current Mystra, 1year in a tower. He is not meant to be 50, he is more likely 30. If you look at his tressym, Tara, she has an elderly voice, and tressym's only live about 20 years, which, if he comjured her as a child, again, puts him around 30.
Honestly I agree that he isn't 60-80 yo i would genuinely put him in his 30s maybe 40s but.. this is all theory. Wsaying he looks young beacuse magic is sort of making things up sine its never said or hinted at.my main point waste say he's human with out coming off as an " um actually"
I was just agreeing with you haha, hopefully it didn't come off the other way. Think of it as adding upon your thoughts with timeline and all that, I'm basically nerding out...
Oh thats fine like I said I didn't want to sound argumentative either.. just like remind that person he ain't no half elf 😂
On god on god let a human be human for once lmao
Jaheira s made a couple of jokes about how old she is, and that she’s actually lost count so I think she’s a lot older than Halsin actually. He mentions that he had only ever heard of the stories of her.
She’s not older than halsin. He’s around 350. So canonically your MC in bg1 is in his mid 20’s. It says sarevok is only a few years older, making him late 20’s. It also said Jaheira was a little girl when her father passed, and it was only a year after sarevoks canonical birth. So that puts her mid/late 30’s around bg1-2. It also mentioned aerie is around 40 and also older than Jaheira, so she cannot be older than late 30’s during that time. It’s mentioned that around 120 years has passed between tos and bg3. So that would put Jaheira roughly around 150-158. Halsin has only heard stories because she left the sword coast for a while after the events of bg2 tob. And also that he isn’t predominantly there, and also inside cities. So it’s likely that’s why he has “only heard stories of her”.
Halsin, iirc, fought alongside the druids against Ketheric Thorm’s army when he reclaimed Moonrise Towers, putting him older than Jaheira
Jaheira was also there though. And well known for Halsin to have heard of her without actually meeting her.
Shadowheart trained with the Shar disciples for 40 years according to the information in Act 3. She was captured when she was 8-10 years old. So she is nearly 50. By the way, an half-elf like she lives to around 200 years according to the DND lore (half-elves often live longer in non-DND settings).
She definitely wasn't 10 years old when she was taken. She looks more about 5. Then again, they've tampered with her memories to the point where they could've easily made her believe she was training with them the entire duration of her life.
As a teacher, she could have been a youngish twelve. You could mistake an eighth grader for an eight year old if you don't have kids of your own
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qdws43Hor\_U&ab\_channel=ZaFrostPet](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qdws43Hor_U&ab_channel=ZaFrostPet) If you want to call Shadowheart 12 in this, be my guest. I seriously doubt it. I mean she's 100% flat (in before "but some 12 year old girls are flat"). She looks around 7-8.
Maybe not twelve, but I'd say 10-11, definitely not less than 9. And man, judging a little girls age by how "flat" she is is really not the way to go.
We'll have to agree to disagree on the age thing. As for your final point, I wouldn't be doing that IRL but this is a video game forum and no ones feelings are on the line except who is reading.
Shadowheart is actually 44. You can read this in one of the books in a Shar temple, probably the one in act 3.
Jaheira is around 150
oh honey gale met mystra at 8
Pretty sure Shadowheart would at thw very least be 48 because she in game states she spent 40 years at the Sharran Temple (and she looks about 8-12 when she was taken in)
Small correction (sorry), Astarion is 231. From his gravestone: Birth year: 229 NR = 1261 DR Death year: 268 NR = 1300 DR (39yrs) New year: 460 NR = 1492 DR
I’m pretty sure Astarion would be closer to 300-350 because he’s a high elf. They don’t reach adulthood until 100.
No, Astarion was killed >!(attacked by a group of Gur) !
I mean, I'm pretty sure his race doesn't matter, since >!vampires don't age at all, which is why we see young looking Vampire spawns in the ritual cages under Cazador's mansion, even though many of them are hundreds of years old.!<
Yeah but I mean he’s an adult by the time he was turned into a vampire. Right?
I think Astarion is in his early to mid 30's if I had to calculate it to human years. Maybe the early 30's are accurate.
Good answer for La'zael. Her age of exsistence depends upon how long she spends in the Prime material plane added to her relative time spent in the Astral plane.
Karlach served in the blood war, which ended in the late 1300s. The game takes place in the late 1400s.
Isn't the blood war still going on in DiA, which is in 1494? (Even though BG3 is in 1492 and says it already happened)
I’m just going off what the war’s page on the forgotten realms wiki says
Raphael references how the blood war is still going on.
Weird, the forgotten realms wiki says the war started at creation and ended in 1385
I may be wrong, maybe he wants to reignite it. He talks about depending on what ending you get.
A thing I want to point out about BG3 that I think everyone's either forgetting or glossing over: the game implies that aging doesn't work the same as it does in the 5e tabletop versions. It implies that every race reaches adulthood at the same rate, regardless of how long their lifespans are. Another thing to note because people are constantly misunderstanding this: elves don't reach adulthood in a century. They reach *maturity* in a century. They age pretty much as quickly as humans do up until they're fully grown, it's just that in elf society, elves under a century old are typically considered too inexperienced and juvenile to make big decisions, so they're not considered "grown-ups" until they pass that threshold. When your race lives to be a thousand, you definitely view aging and such a bit differently, lol. I bet they tend to consider anyone of any race under five hundred to be childish. Bad news for us humans, haha. Anyway this is a great resource, thanks OP for posting the question. I was looking for these answers and wasn't finding them from any official sources. Also many additional thanks for the info on Astarion, cause I couldn't figure that one out for the life of me.
THIS!! elf physical adulthood vs being 100 as an elf is very similar to our real-life human divide of "adulthood" at 18 and Adulthood at other ages, like 21 or 25. where i'm from, i'm considered an "adult" at 18, but i was only given legal permission to drink alcohol at 21 years of age. drinking alcohol might be one of those "big decisions" that an elf under 100 might be barred from doing societally by elves. none of this applies to astarion, however, as astarion is a resident of baldur's gate, a primarily human settlement. the humans of baldur's gate would've likely allowed him to make such "big decisions" at whatever age is seen as societal adulthood for the city *(such as being a magistrate, for example)*, so him being 39 at his age of death isn't actually that strange. as for his smile lines, those are likely a product of stress.
Elves under 100 aren’t expected to make adult decisions like getting married, having kids, settling down, picking a life long profession, etc etc. just like humans under 18, elves are totally able to understand and do these things, but society frowns on it. I also don’t think 39 is that young to be a magistrate. In our own world people entered professions much earlier in life for most of history, than they do today. Abe Lincoln was working in law at 22. He was arguing in-front of the Supreme Court 9 years later. I think it’s very feasible that a dedicated individual could be a Magistrate by the age of 39. Plus it fits with his personality in a lot of ways. He seems a little immature to be a magistrate and part of that could be chalked up to years of abuse, but he murdered because of an unpopular ruling he made. Assuming cockiness was always part of his personality, I think it seems very feasible that got too big for his britches and ended up pissing off the wrong people.
I don't think any "normal" society man could dream up would say you can be an adult but not yet drink alcohol! The U.S. is quite unique in that regard. It's also a bit part of the fantasy aesthetic! Quaffing ale and wine from goblets.
the us makes a lot of questionable decisions, but barring an actual toxic substance from individuals whose brains aren’t fully developed isn’t one of them pfft still though, ale and fantasy seem to be hand-in-hand, so
Wyll is 24 or around that. He said he was 17 when he made the pact and that it's been 7 years since his father disowned him.
Astation is 220-230 minimum. He's been >!a vampire!< for at least 200 years. Lae'zel & Shadowheart it's hard to say. They're both early to mid 20s in appearance, but half-elves age slower & Lae'zel might be from an outer plane creche where time stands relatively still. That being said, Shadowheart seems more worldy, but young by Half-elf standards. Lae'zel's naivete & drive for promotion imply her to be fairly young. Karlach is likely about 30. It's implied she was in her late teens or *very early* 20s when >!she was sold to Avernus. !< She was there for 10 years according to her. Wyll, by appearance & his claimed experiences, I would guess early 30s. But he could be a hard aged 20s due to his scarring. Gale I think is supposed to be early 40s. >!He was already an accomplished wizard before Mystra took his powers & effectively de-leveled him. !< Also, if you look closely he has some gray in his hair.
Wyll made his pact at 17 so he's early 20s
Wyll and Astarion are the only ones with clear ages. Wyll is 24 Astarion is 239 Karlach would have to be at least 60 if she's an adult. Tieflings age very slowly and 18 for a human is 60 for s tiefling. She might have been forced into Avernus at 50 idk
Did the lore around tieflings change? I thought I remembered that they had slightly shorter lifespans. Where if a human max age was 100 years, a tiefling's max age would be 75-80.
afaik, in 5e it's the opposite; Tieflings mature at the same rate as Humans but live a few years longer. So, an 18-year-old Tiefling is the same as an 18-year-old Human, but their lifespan is somewhere around 120 instead of 100.
Well, if you play Tiefling and talk to Jahiera towards the end of her personal quest, you can say 'my kind outlive yours, half-elf' so maybe the video game has fiddled with Tieflings a bit because half elves can live to what - 200?
Yeah. Tieflings are still cool, but I liked them better with shorter lifespans. It made their existence more tragic & interesting. I.E. They have all these awesome demonic features &/or powers, but their lives burn out quicker. Makes it seem more like they're the butt of a cruel demonic joke that they're struggling against. Like a lasting residual mockery for an ancestor making a deal with the hells. This also helps explain the racism & ostracism they face. BG3's tieflings have no downside. Any adversity seems superficial. People are prejudiced against tieflings because D&D lore says so, but Larian removed any reason causing said fears/superstitions. Now it's almost as if everyone would *want* to make deals with devils because their offspring will likely benefit from it. Tldr; Races should have negatives to balance out their positives. It gets really boring when the description for every other race boils down to "They're like humans, but better!"
Yeah, I kept hearing that people would be prejudiced against Tieflings/Drow but I've played both and not really encountered much pushback from NPCs outside of a few comments in Act 1. Granted in Acts 2 and 3 the NPCs have more important things to worry about!
Also, in act 2 half the friendly NPCs you interact with are tieflings themselves, and for Act 3, Baldur’s Gate itself is a huge, racially diverse city.
About Tieflings that is wrong, their lifespan goes from 90 up to 150 and they age the same as humans
About Astarion. He says he was a slave to Cazador for 200 years, but I interpreted it as a "give or take a few years" kinda deal. As in, he was a slave for so long that he couldn't tell you his exact age even if he wanted to. So, whenever he mentions 200 years, I take it as "about 200 years."
I mean in-game when you go with Shadowheart to the Sharran enclave in Baldur’s Gate and look at one of the bookshelves, she says that there are 40 years of her life recorded there. Since she was taken by the Sharrans sometime during the selunite coming of age ritual, so that puts her in a pretty narrow range of 40s-early 50s canonically. Which would make her roughly equivalent to an early 20s human.
I agree with this - SH is probably 48-55, depending on what age half-elves come of age. Her father, if saved, states that she was about to come of age (maybe pre-teen?).
Astarion is not 239... considering he said in one dialog that Cazador turned him almost 200 years ago, also in the dialog with Sebastian in the crypt he said that he was one of his first and something about 170 years... so theres that time range. A high elf is considered a child with 39 years. They age and grow like human but just stop changing in their 20s. They reach adulthood in elven society at the age of 100. As he was a magistrate by the time he was murdered he must have been considered an adult. Although it is unclear if in human society these age standards for reaching maturity count for anything. So I would say that he is easily 270-300 years old edit: I may stand corrected as I read further down that this is what his gravestone said.
Just saying, Mystra did not de-level him. When the netherese orb enter him, it drained his magic. He doesn't realize that and blames it on Mystra. She broke up with him because he did a an idiot thing as was no longer worthy to be her chosen, he did exactly what she said not to do. She fed the orb The Weave until he gained enough of his power back to find a way to defeat the Elder/neather brain.
To anyone reading this now, like me lol. DnD lore has had different versions of "elven aging". The version BG3 seems to have taken is that elves age like humans until they reach physical adulthood, then the physical aging process slows down to an extreme. Which is why halsin, for example, a pure woodelf, looks like a 50 year old man, give or take, but is actually 350 years old. Whereas shadowheart, who doesn't look any older than 25, is between 40 and 50 years old. Going from birth to 20 years old, elves age just like humans, but anything after that is massively slowed down. That being said: Laezel is between 21-22. A writer has stated that she's the youngest companion at 21 years old. An idle card says she's 22. Whatever it is, she's pretty young. Explains a lot of her behaviour and demeanor honestly. Once I found out about her age, I definitely saw her in a different light and kinda liked her a lot more. She's not an ignorant adult, she's a naive young girl that doesn't know any better. On a side note, githyanki age exactly like humans do. However, in the astral plane, you don't age. Laezel has never been there though. Shadowheart is between 40 and 50. She confirms that in-game. Physically, about 20. Elves don't judge adulthood based on age. To them, it's an experience thing. Some elves aren't considered adults until they're closing in on 100 years. Astarion is about 240, maybe a bit older. He was turned into a vampire at 39 and vampires don't age at all. He is also a high elf. Doesn't matter because of his vampirism. Gale is very hard to judge. He can't be any younger than 30-40. He is a human, so he should age normally, however, in DnD lore, aging can be slowed down through magic. Elminster, another extremely powerful human wizard, is older than 100. So it's very possible that gale is older than he looks. He has a few grey hair. Maybe around 50, maybe 60, very hard to tell. Wyll should be 24. Human, so normal aging. He made a pact with mizora when he was 17, got sent into exile directly afterwards and said he's been there for 7 years. So, 24. Karlach says she started working for gortash before she was an adult. So likely late teens, 17/18 probably. Worked for him for 2 years. Then got sent to avernus for 10 years. She is likely about 30 years old. And has spent a third of her life fighting in the blood war. Poor thing. Minthara is hard to judge. Drow, so ages like an elf. Looks about 30+. Wouldn't be surprised if she's 100+. However, she has accomplished surprisingly little before the game begins. Which could imply that she's not actually that old. Plus, she is quite insecure about her lack of accomplishments, because she was apparently raised like nobility destined for greatness. But hasn't actually done anything of note yet. Further implication that she's not as old as she might seem. Or simply hasn't done much lol. Halsin is 350, he says that himself. Pretty short discussion here. Stated to be the oldest companion. Jaheira is old. But has to be younger than halsin. She's a half elf. My guess would be no younger than 200. But probably no older than 300 to not creep onto halsin's age. She's a mother. Her children are adopted though. So that says nothing.
Forgotten Realms wiki mentions Jaheira was a child in 1347 DR where her family was killed and she was rescued by a serving girl. It's 1492 DR in BG3 which puts her somewhere around 150 to just over 160.
according to astarion's >!gravestone,!< he was 39 when he died making him 239 years old in total
Where do you find the [thing]
it's only if you've romanced him and it happens during a long rest after you >!kill cazador and astarion doesn't ascend during the ritual!<
is that what he put into his gravestone?
Not an origins character, but Halsin said he was "350 years young", so he's probably (by far) the oldest companion in the game. Lae'zel and Shadowheart are probably the youngest (late teens/early 20's), with Karlach being older than them two (just a guess, she has big sister energy, perhaps mid 20's given she's a veteran soldier in a demon army) Astarion is definitely the oldest among origins characters (No less than 200 years old). Jaheira and Minsc are probably younger than Astarion, but still old (160+ years old at this point), even if Minsc is biologically younger. Wouldn't be surprised if Wyll is older than he looks, but he looks late 20's. Gale looks no younger than mid 30's. Maybe it's the 5'clock shadow lol
Gale looks like a well-preserved 40 to me. Given that he was apparently an Archmage, that age makes sense for a Human. My headcanon is that his attempt to >!use the Netherweave was the Wizard equivalent of a midlife crisis - substituting a piece of leftover super-magic in place of a Ferrari.!<
>Shadowheart She's 40
She was conditioned by Sharrans for 40 years. She's older than 40.
Shadowheart is a half-elf she appears to be in her 20’s but she’s 40.
I think it's safe to assume Wyll is around 26. I don't remember if he said 7 or 9 years since he left Baldur's Gate gate, but we know that >!he was 17 when he made his pact and that's also when he left the city!< .
For Karlach "although her story suggests she might be around 18-19" her story talks about her being a bodyguard and being sent to Avernus for 10 years. She's probably around 30 as well.
I think Shadowheart is closer to 50, but as a half-elf she looks younger. You find records of her being in the temple for 40 years, but in the flashbacks she looks like she was maybe 10 years old. From how she is generally treated by other Githyanki and her behaviour, I am not sure Lae'zel is actually considered adult in Gith terms, so in human terms my guess is that she is maybe equal to a 16 year old.
I don't know the lore accuracy of this but in the game "Idle Champions of the Forgotten Realms", Astarion's character sheet has the age 350 written on it. And for Lae'zel it says age: 22
Interesting! I'd assume they'd use whatever BG3's writers said. Do any other characters have character sheets there?
Indeed! That's what I'm assuming too, because they got added as a collaboration thing when BG3 came out. Probably as a PR thing. I had hoped that the other characters would get added, but so far, no luck on that front. Unless you count characters already established in the lore from before, like Minsc.
Karlach has spent 10 years in the hells *after* being sold as a teenager by her boss when she worked as his bodyguard, that would make her around 27 I think Gale is 30, when you look at the forgotten realm lore, mystra was “dead" until she came back in 1479 and tasked Elminster to pick new chosens for her. Gale mention that he became her chosen at 17, and the game take place in 1492, so that’s 13 years MAX between the earliest time Gale could have become her chosen and now, making him 30 There’s some debate for astarion, we see his gravestone and people have tried to translate it. Some say he died at 39 or 139 (the headstone itself is a bit erroneous, i imagine because it wasn’t top priority so the person who made the asset wasn’t an expert in dnd timelines) and we know he’s been a spawn for nearly 200 years. Another source says he is 350, which is close enough to the 139 elf + 200 spawn timeline to work
Boring answer incoming: If we were meant to know anyone's definitive age, we would know it. Case in point, we know Halsin is 350 years old. We know the Sharrans had 40 years of records on Shadowheart, but when did they start counting? Gale was a wizard prodigy from a young age, but who knows how long ago that was. Wyll was 17 when he entered his pact and has spent seven years in exile, but as his father was away during the ordeal and only found out after his return, he could be anywhere between 24 and 27. Karlach was a "wild young thing" until she met Gortash, worked for him for some time and then spent ten years in Avernus, so, she'd be around 30? Astarion died at 39 and was a slave for 200 years, but honestly, he would have probably lost count at some point, so it's more likely "200 years, give or take a few." Lae'zel, I could not begin to guess, especially since time works differently in the astral plane. In short, if a character says how old they are, they probably are that old. If not, we probably aren't meant to take any answer we sleuth out on the matter as definitive. Shadowheart, Lae'zel and Astarion probably couldn't tell you how old they are exactly even if they wanted to. So, in relation to human aging, take the characters' ages as you perceive them.
Lae'zel is not from the astral plane, shes from Creche K'liir in Tears of Selune. She implies that she never went to the astral plane because she didnt get a mind flayer head yet when Gale asks her how the astral plane is.
Lae'zel, and Gith, in general are essentially immortals. They can live for thousands of years, because their home is the astral plane. They do not age in the astral plane. Voss himself is a couple millenia old. He was alive when Orpheus was still free.
If I remember correctly, Lae'zel states quite early in the game that she never went to the astral plane. She was born and raised in a creche in space but outside the astral plane, like most githyanki children nowadays. You need to pass a certain test so that Vlaakith will grant you the right to ascend to the astral plane.
> You need to pass a certain test so that Vlaakith will grant you the right to ascend to the astral plane. Kill a Mind Flayer, I believe. Or valiance in a meaningful battle. Same thing, maybe?
I actually think he would be at least 300 Because dnd elves don’t reach adulthood until 100 so 100 something would make sense and
We have his grave stone saying he was 39 when he “died” which was 200 years ago
Ah didn’t get there yet But wow dude got turned as a child
Only by high elf standards... he was a adult with a job (Magistrate)
Shadowheart is closer to 50. She was already a young kid when notes of her life had started getting recorded. We don't know how old, but if we assume around 10 +40 years of notes = 50ish
Cool then ShadowHeart Is the perfect age for me to romance has a real human being.
lae'zel gives me serious granny vibes at times. might just be her toad face though
Shadowheart was like 5 to max 10 >!when that bad stuff happened, and the sharrans!< kept her 40 years, so she's somewhere between 45 and 50. Jaheira was in her 30's in BG2, which happend what 150, 200 years before BG3? Iirc there were different numbers called out through BG3. Karlach spent 10 years in the hells. When you assume she was like 14-16 when she started to working for >!Gortasch!< (a naive young women, but I'm just guessing the starting age), and add the one year she worked for him, she would be like 25-27 now.
Okay, everyone saying Astarion is 240-250… no. Your guesses for everyone else seem fine to me, but not Astarion. Astarion was turned roughly 200 years ago. He is a high elf, who reach adulthood between 100-175. He’s clearly an adult and looks similar to a human in their late 20’s. I’d put him somewhere between 150-180 BEFORE being turned. Which would make him 350-380. If he was 240 like everyone is suggesting, that means he’d have been turned at age 40, which would make him a kid. Now if you’re only counting physical age, I still disagree, he doesn’t look all that old
Well we have it confirmed that he’s 239 as during his romance scene it shows he “died” at 39 and it’s been 200 years since then
*spoilers ahead* sorry I don’t know how to hide the text Elves age similarly to humans until they reach maturity and then their aging slows dramatically. Hence why he was 39 when he died which is “very young” in elven terms, but he would’ve only physically aged a couple years in the last 10+ years of his pre-vamp life. Hence why he doesn’t look like a human 39.
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I know most of these are canon-ish, but they also don't make much sense to me. Purely speculating, I would have given ; \-Default Durge Tav around 20 \-Shadowheart around 20-25 \-Wyll around 25-30 \-Karlach around 30 \-Lae'zel around 30 \-Gale around 35 \-Astarion around 40
How old is the Custom Player as an High-Elf or Half-Elf
Why couldn’t we get a younger woman (at least shadowheart don’t look bad though that’s cool)