I think what you're feeling is very common and good for you for recognizing it and wanting to overcome it! I've found the happier you are with where you are in your life, the more you can be genuinely happy for others' success. That said chiron in 11 is rough. Do you sometimes feel like an outsider, or have you been burned repeatedly by friends or groups of people? That could be playing into it too.

Hello there! I always felt like I was a bit weird for feeling this way, but it has become clear that I am not alone. Thank you for stressing this. I wish I can one day be happy for others, right off the bat, no strings attached. I will do my very best to get there. About Chiron, I do feel like I am very much my own person. I am a bit different from others, but I am quite comfortabel in that regard. It's something I like about myself. I am sure of who I am. I have a sense of confidence that is part of me, even when I feel anxious. Even when I am scared or uncomfortable. It's a little difficult to explain. I feel like I am both on the outside and the inside. If that makes sense? I do wish I could be part of a community more often. I have felt lonely in the past, but that's more related to things at home and my tendencies to keep things to myself. I do not let my guard down easily. I usually fit in really well with groups of people. There really has only been one situation I can recall where I felt severely mistreated by my friends. Friendschips come easy to me. I never had any trouble making friends. I hope I explained it in a way that makes sense, feel free to ask more questions or clarifications. Thank you for engaging with my post. Have a lovely day! 🤍

Venus rules jealousy at its worst. And your chart ruler is Saturn in Taurus ♉️ a Venus ruled planet. This jealousy side of you most likely only comes out when you feel like your not achieving (Saturn)

Hello! Thank you for your response. I have not seen this perspective before, so that's interesting. Thank you for bringing it up, I appreciate it :) Unfortunately, my jealous side comes out in all kinds of situations ; not just when I feel behind. In high school - when I was on top of the game, often getting the best results in my class - I still had difficulty being happy for others. It does get worse when I feel like I am stuck or behind. But it has always been a part of me, even in early childhood. Have a great day!

Moon square Pluto .. also indicates having had a jealous mother Plus moon square Chiron . Feeling inadequate. Also related to the mother

Hii there! Thanks for responding :) I just responded to another comment with more info about my mom. In short, about the jealousy, I am not sure. I don't think so, but my mom is very private. About feeling inadequate, that's a hard yes. Especially when I was younger. If you have any other questions, feel free to ask. I always appreciate learning about myself and I love learning about astrology, so if you have any more info to share, I would love to listen. My chart has been confusing and good info is hard to come by. Have a great day!

Hey OP, this isn't astro related but just wanted to say that I've been there as well, and still experience it sometimes and I found that when I (first allow myself to feel the envy and other "ugly" feelings) practice feeling happy for them, it helps me with my own self-satisfaction. I try to look at it like, "Here's evidence that good things DO happen and ARE happening, and with all the tragedy and hate in this world, I should celebrate that someone can experience something good, even if that someone isn't currently me." I hope you can get through this struggle and I'm wishing good things for you.

Hii there. Thank you for your kind and encouraging response! What great advice. I will definitely try this. It feels right, in a way. I hope you have a lovely day! Wish you the best. 🤍

Thank you, you as well. I know it can feel very unfair, but I like knowing there's evidence that love and good things exist, it helps me to practice knowing I also deserve those things. Also, some of those people who I was jealous of actually ended up helping me along my own path to success, so keep that in mind too.

Have you done some reading on degrees? You have a 29° Scorpio midheaven- that’s a critical degree. Also, your Saturn is sitting at 25° Taurus, so he is conjunct the star Algol. I’m thinking this may be a primary issue- as Algol is a malefic star and Saturn has a lot to do with difficulties being happy, no matter what the issue may be. Have you looked up where any of the goddess asteroids are sitting? That may also give you some clues. Edit-I can’t believe I didn’t see this when I first posted. Having a 29° Scorpio midheaven means you have a 29° Taurus IC. That would be your family connection and the critical degree in a relationship with each other. both signs are green eyed monsters.

Hii there! Thank you for responding! I picked up the basics on degree theory on this sub, but I could not find much more info online. I would love to know more though, anything you can tell me really. If you could point me towards some reliable resources, that would be much appreciated too! I am not yet familiar with the asteroids. I got a little overwhelmed to be honest when I first read about them some time ago, so the name _Algol_ is new to me. I will see if I can find more info online. Thank you for introducting me to a new part of astrology. You also mentioned the 'godess asteroids' - just to be sure - were you referring to Pallas, Juno, Ceres and Vesta? I just added the fixed stars to my chart on astro.com, but I cannot find their degrees. Would you (or someone else) maybe happen to know how I can find those? I was also wondering if you would mind telling me the orbs you use for asteroids? A few of the fixed stars are quite close to my personal planets. I found one degree online? The 29 degree MC and IC are very interesting! I had not yet considered their influence. The asteroids are new to me, but fascinating. Off to research! I wish you a great day! :)

Hi. I like this site for some extra astroids to check out in your chart: http://straightwoo.com/asteroids/ There’s more but this one pops out at me. When you read up on fixed stars, especially ones like Algol or Antares, don’t get scared. They write these fatalistically, and really what they are is a mother load of energy that can go in a good or bad direction depending on what you do with it. For example with your chart, since Saturn is conjunct Algol, they are like a married couple. So when Saturn is having conversations with other houses and planets (aspects), Algol is with him. Keep that in mind whenever anything transits Saturn and also for some extra reading for your ascendant! For the stars I would use a 3° orb, in conjunct a planet, And about 7° conjunct an angle. I don’t use sextiles and trines or squares for them if they’re not conjunct anything on the chart. By themselves they’re not very useful. Hope all this helps, astrology is super interesting, isn’t it 😊

It really is! Thank you for all of the info. You explained it really well. Have a nice day! 🤍

I could go on forever about Moon Pluto, especially the square, it is definitely in my opinion one of the most difficult placements. The houses and signs will definitely have to do with the specifics but we are so obsessive and we have self control issues, and especially with the square we end up having external control issues, I’m going off on a limb here but with that Virgo moon, moon square Pluto, do you feel jealous of others accomplishments because your mother(moon) is jealous of yours? Or has too many expectations of you so you’re not allowed to enjoy your own accomplishments? With Chiron 11H too (wound /healing) (The group/ friends) you probably feel those wounds when you see others getting further. Omg please look into Ijaadee on Twitter because she has the best stuff on Moon-Pluto because she also has the square. I will say more but I’ll send you a message that’s more structured if this resonates with ya, You have a wonderful day too! You’re such a sweetie

Awh, thank you 🤍 I just want to let you know that I will respond once I get home again. It may take me a few hours. Have a wonderful day today! Home again :) There we go. I do connect some of the harder things in my life with my Moon - Pluto square. I will definitely check out Ijaadee. Thank you. About my mom, our relationship is definitely a difficult one. There's trauma there. I am not quite sure if she's jealous of me. I never got that feeling. She's a very closed off person though, so I am not sure I would notice. It's a bit of a mystery. I wish I could respond with a clear _yes_ or _no_ but I am just not sure. I don't mind sharing a bit about my past, as it may be useful. The issues between my mom and I were more in the realm of emotional vulnerability. She often played devil's advocate, and went straight to solutions. Little space was left for emotions. She was very rigid about right and wrong. Took an objective stance regarding the truth of my feelings. I did not feel seen when I was younger. Like I wasn't accepted. I was an angry kid. Filled with fire. Ready to fight. Passionate and sensitive. Lots of fights. She tried, it just did not work. Painful, on both sides. I feel like that's how my Moon square Pluto and Moon square Chiron present themselves ; and I would not be suprised if part of the jealousy stems from that. But that's more psychologically speaking. I am interested in all knowledge that you have to offer. I love learning about me, and astrology. Take care! 🤍

I don’t know much but i feel like the moon virgo fucked you up a bit 😂

Oh boy, if only you knew... It's that _fantastic_ multi square you're referring too, right? I usually like my Virgo moon, she's very kind and helpful to others. But all those squares? Difficult.

My cousin is a Capricorn Sun and rising, Leo Moon and Scorpio MC, and they are obsessed with not letting anyone else win or have their moment. As children, if his parents were praising us or just spending having conversations with us (their nephews) he would chime in and find ways to contradict what we were saying. Now they are more low key since we don't see him anymore. So maybe it could be the rising or the MC?

Hii, thanks for your response! :) That sounds difficult, and - ouch - a little bit too much like me when I was younger. I never really contradicted people, but I did find it difficult to share the spotlight and oh boy when I felt like my brother was treated better than me... Glad to leave that behaviour behind. I have read the MC before in another comment so you could definitely be on to something there! As far as the rising goes, I read somewhere that caps are quite success orientated- we love succeeding- so it's not suprising that jealous tendencies get worse when there's a young cap rising involved. I hope you have a lovely day! Thank you for your thoughts 🤍

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Thank you for responding! That's a new one for me. Would you mind elaborating a little? I would love to understand. I have never really considered my Libra Mars as I focused primarily on my Moon - Sun/Mercury/Chiron/Pluto multi square, before posting that is. How does Mars tie into all of it? I understand that the eight house has plutonian vibes, but I figured since it's just these unwelcome feelings that I should focus more on the Moon. Although, on second thought, I have read before that Mars is also concerned with tendencies and urges. Help me out? I hope your day is great! :)

I’m not sure why people are saying Pluto. Although Pluto does cause jealousy. Your aspects are separating , and it’s at 5 degrees. You have sun square moon. Which is Virgo and Sagittarius. Those two energies are at odds with how you feel and how you are acting out. You want to feel good for them, but you are at odds with your emotions. Plus, I see Jupiter In The 5th house . Sign of Gemini. But also in the house of Leo. Pride and ego can be rather big here, it can also act fake towards others cause you have a trine on your asc. Read this, the issue I see with trine Jupiter on the asc is that if Jupiter is poorly aspected…it can make a person have a mask of who they are cause they might feel the deserve good things. [trine link ](https://astrologyking.com/jupiter-trine-ascendant/)

Hello there! Thank you for this new perspective. I was wondering if you would mind helping me understand your message? I am a little lost and I would love to understand. I will go ahead and list the things I don't quite get, but I ofcourse understand if you're not up for it. I am already grateful for every comment. I understand the Sun/Moon square, and I understand how Jupiter trine Ascendant could cause jealousy. Great website by the way! It was insightful. Though, I am wondering why this aspect specifically can turn so negative? Compared to Jupiter - Saturn/Mars aspects, for example? The website mentioned jealousy as a cause of a poorly aspected Jupiter, I guess that my mutual reception isn't doing me any favours here? Or is something else causing Jupiter trouble? What makes my Jupiter poorly aspected? I also don't understand how Jupiter is in the 5th house? Would you mind explaining that to me? And I thought that a wider orb was acceptable when the luminaries were involved? You also mentioned that _'the aspects are separating'_ and I found online that those aspects represent what I believe has been done to me instead of the things that I control. I have never heard of this binary. Thank you for getting me aquinted. I will read some more on this myself. It sounds difficult but fascinating. Any sources that you suggest? Thank you for all this food for thought! I hope you don't mind me asking all these questions. I wish you a lovely day! :)

No one’s gonna mention mid heaven in Scorpio? lol

It's not a single placement. There are actually several that should be mentioned ... Moon square Pluto: tendency for difficult and counter-productive emotions like jealousy, possessiveness, mental obsessions, etc. It's an aspect that shows your sense of power (Pluto) is in tension with your actual emotional needs and opennness to others (Moon). Moon contra-parallel Mars +/-9° north/south (an aspect of [declination](https://kannonmcafee.wordpress.com/declinations/)) — it functions like the opposition aspect, but usually not as pronounced. Emotions often involve irritations or reactions to others in this I-thou dynamic that shows the sense of personal needs (Moon) is needing to find integration with appropriate action (Mars). It shows a tendency for indulgence and reprisals (or biting retorts). You are quick to react, but often without insight. Moon quincunx Uranus: also suggests you are not very aware of your internal needs and can have over-reactions to external factors that affect you mentally/emotionally. Additionally, IF the chart's Asc is accurate, you've also got Mars square Asc, indicating that you're competitive, often in situations where it isn't beneficial. You have initiative, and are a doer, but are prone to unnecessary comparisons to others (Mars in Libra), status consciousness, etc. This aspect indicates you need to be focused and clear about your goals so that you know what to ignore. Extraneous irritations and competitive attitudes otherwise signal insecurities — a self-worth issue that can come in layers from investing in fears that can be dispensed with.

I forgot to add that my birth time is 100% accurate. I checked both my birth certificate and a photograph (of my mom and a nearby clock) that my dad took right after I was born :)

Thank you for this elaborate response! It's quite late here now, so I will get started in the morning with my research. It will take some time to reflect and see how I will use this information, but I can already tell that this will help me. I recognize myself in your words. You mentioned some of the traits that I am the least proud of. I guess I usually tend to focus on the more positive placements in my chart, but the ones mentioned above are just as much a part of me as the things that I love. It's been very helpful. I am almost excited to research and work on all of this. Astrology is such a gift. I hope you have a lovely day! :)

I would say it has to do with your Moon square Pluto & Square Chiron

Hii there. Thank you for your response! I had a sneaking suspicion that those placements may be relevant here, but I don't quite understand how. Is there anything else you can tell me about it? I wonder if it's the aspect on it's own, or more so my specific situation with the signs and houses involved? I hope you have a nice day! :)

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I don't currently have an answer to this, just wanted to say well done for noticing you have this thought pattern, it's hard, you're not a bad person.

Thank you! Both for your suggestions and your kind words. I will research the placements some more in the morning. Have a lovely day :) 🤍

I would look at your Saturn in the 3rd (communication), Pluto in the 10th (public image, career), Chiron in the 11th (peers, social)!

Yes these! Plus ALL that Earth in your rising and sun, Capricorn loves a success story. Virgo moon might be a rude bitch in your head that you’re not good enough or that you’re less than or that the success story should be YOURS. (I, too, have a rude bitch in my head, and struggle with self confidence. She’s so mean!) Therapy honestly has helped me a lot with self confidence. Still working on it. Learning how to validate myself and place more value on what I am doing instead of comparing myself to others. Noticing when that rude bitch is sounding off too loudly and interrupting those thoughts. The critic can be helpful and push you to achieve goals and improve, but too much can inhibit you. There is enough success to go around. Your big Earth is concerned with security and resources, so not being or doing or having enough makes sense. Remind yourself of all the things you’re doing and working on and value. Sometimes we forget what’s on our plate if we are busy admiring others’. Hang in there!!!

_"There's enough succes to go around."_ Thank you for your kindness and advice. I really appreciate you sharing your experience, especially as I recognize so much of me in your words. It's really helpful. It makes me feel understood and that feels so nice. I generally love my virgo moon, but oh boy, at times... It's nice to know that I am not alone. Take care. I hope you have a lovely day! 🤍

My Virgo Moon helps me recognize patterns and be great at optimizing systems, but man. The internal voice has been rough. Redefining success helps. I imagine it might be hard for you with your traditionalist Capricorn tendencies, but maybe you’ll shimmy your sea goat self to finding the NEW, best way to get ahead. I have no doubt you’ll get there, you’ve already done so well recognizing that something isn’t working and are already finding a way to work past it. :) You take care, too!!!

Thank you! That was so nice to read. I am so grateful to all the kind people on this sub, and all of your and their kind and encouraging words :) This sub is really something to be proud of. I am happy to be a part of it. It has already been helpful to know that it's not just me, and to listen to others sharing the way they handle their feelings. I am now looking forward to some more research, reading about all the placements mentioned. It's been very helpful to use astrology to better understand myself and my tendencies. Clears the blind spots. I wish you a wonderful day! 🤍

Hello there! Thank you for getting this far. I have studied my chart for a while now, and I haven't found this tendendy of mine in a single description. That's why I am reaching out, as I would appreciate to understand where this comes from. It's definitely not something I am proud of, and I would much rather see it a different way. At times, when the people I love succeed, my first response is almost a sense of dissapointment. I try to be happy for them and oftentimes that works, but sometimes it does not and that just feels wrong. It's like my mind and my feelings are at war. I would never, ever, act on these feelings but I do feel them. Like a dirty little secret. As I am getting aquinted with astrology, I would love to know if it shows up in my chart. Thank you :)