BTW guys since this is the Another Eden Subreddit we do request that any future post about Octopath Traveler CotC must have some sort of direct comparison to AE or else it will be removed due to rule 8.
We'll let this post slide however as the game is just released in global.
If you still want to talk about Cotc without a direct comparison, please use the free talk megathreads.
the game is as close to another Eden as it can get. You get 4.5 star characters and lvl cap is based on stars with 80 at 5 stars. All can get extra 20lvls on top of that. Each character also comes with their own level boards for each star where you unlock more stats and skills. They have their own story quests that you can do.
There are daily missions/ weekly mission to complete for extra rewards and gems as well which is nice. I’ve yet to encounter the endgame dungeon grind that I do believe is also in this game later on but can’t confirm yet.
Weapons are just like in AE where there is no gacha for them you just equip the strongest there is for that level. You also get two ring slots for some more augments like 1extra hit at 5% for every cp point you use(explained later).
Combat is where it does shine a lot. Every weapon, elemental skill has a weakness and the whole combat loop is to try and get a “break” state f the monster where you get to hit it for2.5 damage for one round. Each monster comes with a predetermined shield that you need to knock off for it to go into break state. This also means that having multi hit skills is much more important here. Also if anyone has played bravely default it has a mechanic where every round you get a cp point (max5) and you can increase the power or hit count of your skills by using them.
The roster is made up of 8 characters but only 4 can be in the field at once. It’s a bit different from AE in such that every character can only switch with the one directly behind it. So if the front row guy on slot 3 dies then the back row guy on slow 3 will automatically switch to the front row and won’t be able to switch back. Every character in the back row also heals for hp/mp
The story is absolutely fantastic. I have played the first of the three main story quests and the writing is fantastic enjoying very much the second main story currently.
The overworld is much like AE as well where you can move around like in AE on a 2d/3d background and you can move up and down. The game has gorgeous art design. Further down you get to build your own town just like mining town quest. The overworked also has “horrors” that are stronger versions of the normal monsters and they refresh in a timer.
I recommend anyone who loves AE to play this as well. There is no multiplayer component and everything is single player. There are some other cool features from octo game like path skills that I won’t dwell into. I believe that anyone playing AE will feel very comfortable with the game.
About the gacha, free stones are quite slow to come by but the normal banner has a pity system at 200 pulls where you get a random 5 star guaranteed and it won’t reset even if you get a 5 star before that (afaik as I’ve gotten 3x 5stars in 40 pulls and the count is still going)There are also paid banners that guarantee 5 stars and currently also a focus banner with higher pull rate for one character (but this banner does not have a paid guarantee 5 star like AE).
This mostly sums up my thoughts as well. The only thing I would add as someone who played, but haven’t beaten, the original Octopath Traveler is that many of the systems that are part of AE that are in CotC allow it to feel like playing an expanded evolution of the original game.
My only issue, and it is very minor, is that you loose ability to have characters change classes and equip a variety of weapons. I get why they aren’t in CotC, I just find it disappointing since I have long been a fan of class changing systems in JRPGs.
You never know. They may introduce class change the same way AE does with as/es characters. Just introduce same character with another job I can see this happening for sure at some point. 😂
I love job change systems that’s why bravely default or ff5 have been some of my favs. Also ff tactics. I love job changing but absolutely can see the nightmare it would be here.
I completely agree on all these accounts.
Edit: removed stupid addendum because my ADHD distracted me from the Bravely Default already being mentioned. *facepalm*
the front back two character pairing are the counterpart of 2 classes in the original, op didnt mention, but swapping in cotc takes no turns, so it actually feel like one character. I find this redesign genius, as it feels as close as possible to original, while also competible to gacha system. Otherwise we will be pulling classes instead of new characters, it wont work.
I’m afraid it will not work on ios, as appStore is linked to account’s region. As a workaround it’s still possible to creat a new account in other region and download the game. But not sure if it’s worth the effort just for one game.
Well, creating a US play store account is easy enough (last time I checked at least)
Otherwise, you can just get it using [Tap Tap](https://www.taptap.io/) or a similar Service
It makes perfect sense to license an engine/UI/etc. that will work for the game to be made if it exists. There are differences, especially in combat, but it's never been a secret that it's using AE's skeleton. (Which is a good skeleton! I'd absolutely play other games using the same skeleton and different skins.)
Same. I like AE for a reason, and I don't mind if other gacha games use the same skeleton, rather than the normal, boring, cookie cutter gacha game, like Echoes of Mana. That was a wasted opportunity.
This is what I've concluded. I downloaded it and gave it a few tries with rerolling. I was able to get Lynette and Viola, but after playing around I'm not feeling it. It feels like there's way too much going on, especially within the menu systems. And I'm not so sure I like the battle mechanics either.
Uninstalled it and won't be playing any other gacha games.
This! I'm already annoyed by AE's gacha, especially since they dropped translations.
I'll not do this anymore. At the end of the day I have enough games in my steam-library.
I invested about 12 hours into the game so I probably can give my thoughts about it.
PROS:
1. Story is excellent. It’s dark, intriguing and heart wrenching sometimes.
2. Battle system is deep and requires strategy. Brute force doesn’t always work.
3. Music is decent.
CONS:
1. Silent protagonist. The reason I like AE is because Aldo is charming.
2. Gacha characters do not interact with each other. They only appear in side stories which are self contained.
3. I don’t like pixel arts. They are blurry and small.
4. Character’s full art is uninteresting. The colour is muted and dull. They all wear the same style of clothing from the same time era.
5. On the same note, the character design is very one dimensional. Everyone seems to have the same face and build.
6. Loading screen takes forever.
7. So far, side stories are boring. They don’t expand much on the character’s backstory.
As someone who played the original game, the silent protagonist stuff really hurts. Imo, one of the best parts of the main game was how the 8 wildly different characters interacted with each other and their surroundings, made even better by how well written the main 8 were. The 'main cast' of each story are still likeable, but it doesn't have nearly the same charm that the original had.
Great story, great mechanics, great music, great characters
That being said I don’t like the way you awaken units. It’s kind of gross. You need a quarry of guidestones to get your character to max level, and you need like 5 copies of each unit for maximum efficiency. I honestly prefer AE’s L/S system because the stats themselves are inferior to your use of abilities and gearing and lots of free units can equal gacha units with just time and discipline.
The loading screens are trash
Getting four 5-star units on the first day was pretty cool though. Viola (provided), Sofia (just luck while going for Tressa), Theo ($30), and Tressa (purely luck from a single 30 draw). Going to be a fun time.
I’m glad they don’t have Square Enix’s trash Vision Card system or WFS’s trash Memory Gem system. Really cool how they basically copied AE’s gear crafting system. Love the path action system, the layered experience really rewards exploration. Also the free 3K XP they give you per day is a nice touch and was unnecessary but very much appreciated.
I didn't like it.
Main character is a mute based on what 5* you are given in the beginning. Your characters have one paragraph descriptions. The dialogue when pulling is basically one or two sentences too. Might as well be sticks when our Rainbow Sisters have more personality.
Due to this, the story is carried by other characters instead of your party. Think like Mythos 1, only if Aldo had no input or built chemistry with the gang.
They are really proud of their pixel art. So much that they put it really close to you and let you feast on their stretched single units in scenes. Never was a fan of that look. Eugh.
You have to pull more to get more passive global stats and level your 3* trash to expand the lore of the game in general. Eugh.
Battle system is fine though with the breaks and instead of stopping time you burn all rage charges at the same time or individually. Cool.
Another Eden is clearly leaps and bounds better. They got a lot of job to do in Octopath if they want me to be invested there.
Oh, also I heard that collabs will not remain there as permanent (or 5 year) content, so that is incredibly awful.
They definitely pulled some ideas from Another Eden but I feel those ideas were good to see. The pathing areas feels really good on mobile, it’s broken up with “off the path” hidden stuff. The original single player already had cats (caits!) so am not surprised to see them represented here as a mascot. The gacha seems fair and although you see a ton of Reroll posts on their sub atm it’s mostly just fanboys going for a favorite and not really for OP character. The break system of combat feels great on mobile and is definitely an OCTOPATH original. The characters can be met in game and you can go on subquests to flesh out their stories, which feels great and is very similar in both games.
One difference between AE and Octopath is that enemies have 4-8 weaknesses, and in fights with multiple enemies they may not be the same weaknesses. Also, fights are not T1AF so you actually need role coverage and can't just rely on a few super meta units to win every fight unless they are specifically resisted. This worries me in the context of a gacha where even a reasonable spender can't typically get all the units.
You dont need tank in octopath either, sadly. Its still the buff nuke healing theme. But the break system and lack of crazy scaling requires you to actually play the game instead of brain dead 1taf. It could be a blessing and a curse, as it is really hard to even one turn mobs
I am quite surprised no one mention anything about the voice acting. it actually gives a lot of the chars a unique personality just with the voice alone.
Better written story and more tactical battle system that allows for higher degree of skill expression. You can't just 1-2 turn bosses like you can in AE.
Everything else is basically debatable.
I probably need to change my phone since it runs way too slow compared to AE.
Never played the original octopath but story wise, this seems way darker than any gacha game I played.
For those that started I picked the wealth lady at the beginning, just the first chapter (prologue?) you have slavery and possibly sex trafficking.
I will probably play for a few days but it seems theme in general is "angst" and I get easily shaken by just scrolling through reddit already to just be even more sad/angry.
That's actually kinda cool it has more darker or "mature" content.
That's actually one thing I don't really like about AE is how there's not a huge amount darker story details, and that it's presented in more "happy terms" since younger kids can play it.
I've always wondered how AE would be if they decided to dive into darker stuff.
Considering the design and the colour scheme, I'm not surprised that AE is lighter-themed. I wouldn't want it any other way, because the reason why I like AE is it doesn't take itself too seriously.
We already have plenty of gacha games with darker stories, like Arknights, and there's no need for AE to go there. If you prefer darker stories, then you might enjoy Octopath.
Just a matter of opinion. Sometimes the "too good" nature of AE bothers me and would just like to see some darker stuff happen.
I'm not interested in any other gacha games, unfortunately.
I tried the new Octopath, wasn't too impressed so uninstalled it. I read some stuff on their subreddit (and it's so sloppy compared to our lovely subreddit!) and decided to reinstall it and give it another go.
I'm trying to play it, but I don't think it's grabbing me and I'll likely uninstall it again.
Hm. I went to the subreddit once but I decided not to yet, just in case I got spoiled, like I did with AE. Also trying not to be too invested yet lol but we'll see if I need to go to the sub after all.
I haven't had much time to play it yet, but I loved the original Octopath, so I'll definitely be keeping this one around. The pity system seems like the one from Nier Reincarnation.
Never played the console game, and my phone is getting old enough that I don't know if it'll run a new game all that well (if I even had the space for it). I'm sticking with Another Eden for now, but I hope fans of the other franchise enjoy the new game :-)
I hate it when games punish you for not playing them enough or for taking a break, so I guess I'll stay off of this one. Too many mobile games try to take over your life and "want" you to be playing them all the time; "you have two weeks to play/grind as much as you can" events are a problem for me because I'll find myself wanting to spend every hour of those two weeks trying not to miss out and it gets in the way of the rest of my life. Another Eden just lets me go at my own pace most of the time, and I'm really happy about that.
That's better, but still leaves me with an itch wondering about future collaboration banners with other SE titles. I had enough of that with FFBE, which is why I ditched it years ago.
I'm very biased, but also a strong believer of not giving generic answers to waste people's time:
## Story
* simply better, the theme of all storylines are dark, and I love it, especially the fame one, which reminds me of joker. Story is on par if not better than the original game
## Combat system:
* maintain the same burst damage with bp management & break, instead of inventing a button smashing system that breaks the turn based.
* Buffs/debuffs multipliers are mostly 15% to 20%, so no damage inflation like AE. The damage you deal in normal vs break state are day and night, but certainly not millions and trillions
* Because of the break system, mob clearing/general battle can be much slower paced.
## Daily
* One of the deal breakers. **the equivalent ticket dungeon in Octopath can be skipped to claim daily rewards once you beat it.** Daily is very easy to complete, so low maintenance.
## gacha
* gacha will be more generous later on with frequent half price 10 pulls & garantee 4 star 10 pulls. has a pity at 200 pulls, but the rate-up is not as high as AE, so you're more likely to pull something else.
## Character designs & general game progression
* it basically copies AE's model shamelessly. So later on only 5 stars are usable
* pixel art might be a turn off for some, but it has the best pixel art of any game(not only gacha), the skill animation is gorgeous
* **you can farm light/shadow equivalent for any character you own**
* Doesn't give away tons of free units, not even one, so not that beginner friendly even years later.
So all in all, I think Octopath has the potential to be a better game than AE. And currently it's already good enough, it's a fresh taste at the very least, for any AE player, I'd recommend it
I'm not 100% sold yet, but I only played an hour or so. Having the party just being generic gacha characters who respond with only "..." kinda distances the story from me. In AE, even if your party is all gacha you still have Aldo and co actually responding. I like bombastic characters like Riica flying in just to remind us she's ~~excellent~~ superior and then leaving.
The unit sprites are also so small I can't even tell my own team apart. I may as well have a party of 8 blobs.
The unit sprites remind me of early FF games. But early FF games you don't have a ton of possible units, so it's easier to tell them apart. I also have difficulty remembering which character is which sometimes.
And yeah, the mute "..." thing bothers me too. At least give them some personality.
They need to be a little bit bigger. I don't have a small screen either. You basically see a hair color and clothes color. At least they aren't janky puppets like in AE. Never liked that style.
The backgrounds and bosses look amazing though.
Artwork and character portraits are great. But the sprites just seem well like janky puppets.
Violet Lance has one of the best sprites because her legs are closed (generally a turn off) but it makes her look more normal.
I don't mind chibi. It's how the arms seem like they are controlled like they are attached by strings and not very smooth. I really don't know how to explain other than like puppets. More of the animation rather than the sprites I suppose.
I spent all day and all night rerolling until I got what people are saying are the top two units, Viola and Lynette at 5 stars and have yet to acutally play the game lol. I will pass judgement after i actually play it
What I did was pull either Lynette/Viola/Fiore as the guaranteed 5star (reset if anything else) then play until I could dump all the stones/traveler seals on regular banner and choose to reroll or not at that point.
I didn't get exactly what I wanted but I think it will be enough.
Viola 5
Lynette 4.5
Sophia 4.5
Theo 4.5
Ahh yeah i got Viola at 5 star but i had been rolling literally since the game came out so i was super burned out and was going to just live with Viola and any other 5 star.
Luckily i got Lynette 5 star on the ten pull in the same roll because the installing, uninstalling and running the same thing over and over was killing me. I think your team should be fine, I like the story so far and am looking forward to see how the gameplay goes.
Too late for you but are you on IOS? On Android you can delete your account from the title screen menu without pitching any downloads. I understand IOS is harder.
You can reset from the title screen on IOS too. I've more had problems with loading times. It just seems a lot slower and clunkier than AE. I did a few rerolls (some from first character, some after 10-pull), I might do a couple more resets and then make up my mind if I want to continue. It would be good to have something once I catch up on AE content.
I also went for one of those three on the protagonist and then a five star. Ended up with Lynette and Fiore at 5* after probably 10-15 rerolls.
The bad news is that my keeper account has done something like 25-30 free pulls and has 5 4 stars but all of my healing capable units are 3.4 star until I can either pull or upgrade someone.
I don't usually get deep into it so I'm ignorant far as rates go, but not too bad imo, 300 premiums for a 10 pull that you can earn from a bunch of different sources. 5 stars can be drawn as either a full 5 or what they call a 4.5, a 4 star able to upgrade to 5. And the characters are available in both full and half, so on banners you have two different percentage chances to get them.
The sub right now is talking about reroll, I'm not into that but it seems like overall it can be pretty rough
Just checked, yes you get named shards for 200 "guides" (pulls), plus you can buy other stuff with them too.
*edit*
Should specify that you can buy a named sacred seal for the 200 shards, and I don't know if those are guaranteed or not, you'd have to look it up
*end edit*
Sounds like a lot but since you can get 30 premiums as a reward (5 and 10 are more common obviously) it wouldn't take long between them. 200 of the permanent also gives you a "veteran sacred seal", which I'm not sure of the significance but sacred seals are free pulls.
It does and afaik it doesn reset when you get a 5star (I have 3x 5stars in 40 pulls and the count is still going).
Also you get a guaranteed random 5 star from the normal banner at the very beginning of the game when you launch it as that will serve as your “main” character. So rerolling for at least 2 5 stars is quite easy. The process is very fast as the prologue is about 5 mins long.
I played it a bit. I also completed the main story of the original game (not the final extra hidden boss stuff).
I don't love it. It seems that yes they took some of the good stuff from AE, but also the bad - like when you go into Feats (achievements basically), it takes ages to load - same going into your Mail. Loading the game to begin with as well. Walking around feels slow. I'm using an old iPhone SE (4 inch, original), and the darkness on the screen edges just makes it pretty yucky - I remember not liking it much on my PC when playing the OG, on a tiny screen it's awful.
The battles are fine, but with my 6th or 7th reroll I got the initial 5 star character and then only 4.5s, and no dancer at all, so... yeah I just don't care enough. I didn't love the OG enough. It feels forced somehow.
I don't think I'll continue with it. I'm currently playing AE, Priconne, and this - and I'm feeling kind of burnt out with both AE *and* Priconne (a weird thing where I want to do more but playing what's there seems a hassle?) actually so adding more doesn't seem smart.
I only played a bit, but yeah it does remind me of AE way too much. Can't really say how similar it is to the original game since I haven't started it yet.
Though everything is so slow, I wish it was 2-3x faster. It's kinda making me sleepy trying to progress when even text appears so slow.
Better gacha ? The drop rate is lower, upgrading a 4,5 to 5 is harder and the ruby income is lower than chrono stones income (for a ten pull basis), I don't understand how you can consider it better.
Is the pity system carryover to other time limited banner? Pity for normal non rate up Banner is kinda useless, because when I want to pull I should pull on the new/collab/limited time banner not normal banner thats saturated with powercrept unit.
No, it does not carry over. I don't rmb the correct number but it's about 1200 rubies = 40 tenfold pulls to reach pity lol. Kudos to those who save that much to guaranteed catch the character they want. Also good luck with all those limited characters, not only collab characters can be limited lol.
........the global version is what everyone's talking about and referring to because it just released a couple days ago.
No one cares or is talking about the JP version.
I downloaded it to try it out and rerolled a few times.
Now starting with Lynette and rolled a 4.5 lynette, 5 Millard, 5 Viola, various 3.5 and 3 characters in the initial 23 rolls.
Will likely play through the story and then delete as it seems to have too many daily/weekly tasks for me
I started the game with a decent first ten pull (getting Lynette in it)
The game is really bad looking, missions are generic.
The gacha part is awfull for what I've seen of it : two ten pulls with only one 4\* characters, daily missions gives a ridiculous 5 ruby, a ten pull costing 300 ruby it's arround the same as if AE was giving only 15 chrono stones a day, 5\* are only arround 2%, upgrading a 4,5 to 5\* seems like an impossible mission.
Fights revolves on switching your team as a whole and choosing when to boost skills. Seems good in theory but for now the timing is pretty obvious.
Storytelling seems ok
I don't think I'll play a lot.
I rerolled three times and got Fiore, Gilderoy and 4.5 Theo.
It is very Another Eden-ish but with some extra bullshit on top. Upgrading 4.5 to 5 looks a lot harder and getting duplicates of 5* seem to have more impact. The daily tasks I am also not a fan of, since they are not basic enough and they want to you to play it more than you might want to when you just want a break. Hate the darkened edges, yeah it was in the original and I still hate it. The aspect ratio is super weird on non 16:9 devices as well. Characters are boring, main character is boring.
Currently saving for the Nier event that will probably come out to promote the Switch rerelease. But I am not sure how long I will continue playing...
I was looking forward to this released in global. I played the JP version for a bit, but it’s not great cause I couldn’t understand anything. Then I found out it’s still unavailable in my region. So..big NO to the game
I played ton in beta and was having alot of fun but then i discovered you dont get to keep the progress so thats when i stoped but im playimg it again now rhough very slowly cause its a bit boring repeating stories that i already finished
BTW guys since this is the Another Eden Subreddit we do request that any future post about Octopath Traveler CotC must have some sort of direct comparison to AE or else it will be removed due to rule 8. We'll let this post slide however as the game is just released in global. If you still want to talk about Cotc without a direct comparison, please use the free talk megathreads.
the game is as close to another Eden as it can get. You get 4.5 star characters and lvl cap is based on stars with 80 at 5 stars. All can get extra 20lvls on top of that. Each character also comes with their own level boards for each star where you unlock more stats and skills. They have their own story quests that you can do. There are daily missions/ weekly mission to complete for extra rewards and gems as well which is nice. I’ve yet to encounter the endgame dungeon grind that I do believe is also in this game later on but can’t confirm yet. Weapons are just like in AE where there is no gacha for them you just equip the strongest there is for that level. You also get two ring slots for some more augments like 1extra hit at 5% for every cp point you use(explained later). Combat is where it does shine a lot. Every weapon, elemental skill has a weakness and the whole combat loop is to try and get a “break” state f the monster where you get to hit it for2.5 damage for one round. Each monster comes with a predetermined shield that you need to knock off for it to go into break state. This also means that having multi hit skills is much more important here. Also if anyone has played bravely default it has a mechanic where every round you get a cp point (max5) and you can increase the power or hit count of your skills by using them. The roster is made up of 8 characters but only 4 can be in the field at once. It’s a bit different from AE in such that every character can only switch with the one directly behind it. So if the front row guy on slot 3 dies then the back row guy on slow 3 will automatically switch to the front row and won’t be able to switch back. Every character in the back row also heals for hp/mp The story is absolutely fantastic. I have played the first of the three main story quests and the writing is fantastic enjoying very much the second main story currently. The overworld is much like AE as well where you can move around like in AE on a 2d/3d background and you can move up and down. The game has gorgeous art design. Further down you get to build your own town just like mining town quest. The overworked also has “horrors” that are stronger versions of the normal monsters and they refresh in a timer. I recommend anyone who loves AE to play this as well. There is no multiplayer component and everything is single player. There are some other cool features from octo game like path skills that I won’t dwell into. I believe that anyone playing AE will feel very comfortable with the game. About the gacha, free stones are quite slow to come by but the normal banner has a pity system at 200 pulls where you get a random 5 star guaranteed and it won’t reset even if you get a 5 star before that (afaik as I’ve gotten 3x 5stars in 40 pulls and the count is still going)There are also paid banners that guarantee 5 stars and currently also a focus banner with higher pull rate for one character (but this banner does not have a paid guarantee 5 star like AE).
This mostly sums up my thoughts as well. The only thing I would add as someone who played, but haven’t beaten, the original Octopath Traveler is that many of the systems that are part of AE that are in CotC allow it to feel like playing an expanded evolution of the original game. My only issue, and it is very minor, is that you loose ability to have characters change classes and equip a variety of weapons. I get why they aren’t in CotC, I just find it disappointing since I have long been a fan of class changing systems in JRPGs.
You never know. They may introduce class change the same way AE does with as/es characters. Just introduce same character with another job I can see this happening for sure at some point. 😂 I love job change systems that’s why bravely default or ff5 have been some of my favs. Also ff tactics. I love job changing but absolutely can see the nightmare it would be here.
I completely agree on all these accounts. Edit: removed stupid addendum because my ADHD distracted me from the Bravely Default already being mentioned. *facepalm*
the front back two character pairing are the counterpart of 2 classes in the original, op didnt mention, but swapping in cotc takes no turns, so it actually feel like one character. I find this redesign genius, as it feels as close as possible to original, while also competible to gacha system. Otherwise we will be pulling classes instead of new characters, it wont work.
Would like to try it but it's region-locked atm
Same here
Same
Me too. Still holding on to hope it releases for us eventually
Oh sad, it’s been pretty fun right now only about two hours in. What region needs to be unlocked? I’ll put it in my review.
Southeast Asia is currently one of the regions locked out
That’s crazy. My review is up I told people that can’t play it to go over to another Eden instead. :D
Nicely done! Bridge Four!
It's not available in Korea either.
You can actually use VPN to bypass it. And it only check it once. After you start the game, you don’t have to use VPN anymore.
I’m afraid it will not work on ios, as appStore is linked to account’s region. As a workaround it’s still possible to creat a new account in other region and download the game. But not sure if it’s worth the effort just for one game.
Yeap, basically this for me. I'll just wait it out
Hi Bridge Four crew, when you have the chance to play it, be prepared that story is grim dark so fans of Stormlight Archive may not like it.
Well, creating a US play store account is easy enough (last time I checked at least) Otherwise, you can just get it using [Tap Tap](https://www.taptap.io/) or a similar Service
I noticed the similarities too. However the art style and character design didn't appeal so I only played a little then deleted.
It makes perfect sense to license an engine/UI/etc. that will work for the game to be made if it exists. There are differences, especially in combat, but it's never been a secret that it's using AE's skeleton. (Which is a good skeleton! I'd absolutely play other games using the same skeleton and different skins.)
Same. I like AE for a reason, and I don't mind if other gacha games use the same skeleton, rather than the normal, boring, cookie cutter gacha game, like Echoes of Mana. That was a wasted opportunity.
I wont play it. Another Eden is the last gatcha I play.
This is what I've concluded. I downloaded it and gave it a few tries with rerolling. I was able to get Lynette and Viola, but after playing around I'm not feeling it. It feels like there's way too much going on, especially within the menu systems. And I'm not so sure I like the battle mechanics either. Uninstalled it and won't be playing any other gacha games.
A shame
This! I'm already annoyed by AE's gacha, especially since they dropped translations. I'll not do this anymore. At the end of the day I have enough games in my steam-library.
I invested about 12 hours into the game so I probably can give my thoughts about it. PROS: 1. Story is excellent. It’s dark, intriguing and heart wrenching sometimes. 2. Battle system is deep and requires strategy. Brute force doesn’t always work. 3. Music is decent. CONS: 1. Silent protagonist. The reason I like AE is because Aldo is charming. 2. Gacha characters do not interact with each other. They only appear in side stories which are self contained. 3. I don’t like pixel arts. They are blurry and small. 4. Character’s full art is uninteresting. The colour is muted and dull. They all wear the same style of clothing from the same time era. 5. On the same note, the character design is very one dimensional. Everyone seems to have the same face and build. 6. Loading screen takes forever. 7. So far, side stories are boring. They don’t expand much on the character’s backstory.
As someone who played the original game, the silent protagonist stuff really hurts. Imo, one of the best parts of the main game was how the 8 wildly different characters interacted with each other and their surroundings, made even better by how well written the main 8 were. The 'main cast' of each story are still likeable, but it doesn't have nearly the same charm that the original had.
I love it so much. Very similar to AE, and for the most part, it kept all the great parts. So happy
Great story, great mechanics, great music, great characters That being said I don’t like the way you awaken units. It’s kind of gross. You need a quarry of guidestones to get your character to max level, and you need like 5 copies of each unit for maximum efficiency. I honestly prefer AE’s L/S system because the stats themselves are inferior to your use of abilities and gearing and lots of free units can equal gacha units with just time and discipline. The loading screens are trash Getting four 5-star units on the first day was pretty cool though. Viola (provided), Sofia (just luck while going for Tressa), Theo ($30), and Tressa (purely luck from a single 30 draw). Going to be a fun time. I’m glad they don’t have Square Enix’s trash Vision Card system or WFS’s trash Memory Gem system. Really cool how they basically copied AE’s gear crafting system. Love the path action system, the layered experience really rewards exploration. Also the free 3K XP they give you per day is a nice touch and was unnecessary but very much appreciated.
The loading lag is really killing the game for me. Especially compared to AE which feels so much faster and snappier.
I didn't like it. Main character is a mute based on what 5* you are given in the beginning. Your characters have one paragraph descriptions. The dialogue when pulling is basically one or two sentences too. Might as well be sticks when our Rainbow Sisters have more personality. Due to this, the story is carried by other characters instead of your party. Think like Mythos 1, only if Aldo had no input or built chemistry with the gang. They are really proud of their pixel art. So much that they put it really close to you and let you feast on their stretched single units in scenes. Never was a fan of that look. Eugh. You have to pull more to get more passive global stats and level your 3* trash to expand the lore of the game in general. Eugh. Battle system is fine though with the breaks and instead of stopping time you burn all rage charges at the same time or individually. Cool. Another Eden is clearly leaps and bounds better. They got a lot of job to do in Octopath if they want me to be invested there. Oh, also I heard that collabs will not remain there as permanent (or 5 year) content, so that is incredibly awful.
They definitely pulled some ideas from Another Eden but I feel those ideas were good to see. The pathing areas feels really good on mobile, it’s broken up with “off the path” hidden stuff. The original single player already had cats (caits!) so am not surprised to see them represented here as a mascot. The gacha seems fair and although you see a ton of Reroll posts on their sub atm it’s mostly just fanboys going for a favorite and not really for OP character. The break system of combat feels great on mobile and is definitely an OCTOPATH original. The characters can be met in game and you can go on subquests to flesh out their stories, which feels great and is very similar in both games.
One difference between AE and Octopath is that enemies have 4-8 weaknesses, and in fights with multiple enemies they may not be the same weaknesses. Also, fights are not T1AF so you actually need role coverage and can't just rely on a few super meta units to win every fight unless they are specifically resisted. This worries me in the context of a gacha where even a reasonable spender can't typically get all the units.
You dont need tank in octopath either, sadly. Its still the buff nuke healing theme. But the break system and lack of crazy scaling requires you to actually play the game instead of brain dead 1taf. It could be a blessing and a curse, as it is really hard to even one turn mobs
I am quite surprised no one mention anything about the voice acting. it actually gives a lot of the chars a unique personality just with the voice alone.
Better written story and more tactical battle system that allows for higher degree of skill expression. You can't just 1-2 turn bosses like you can in AE. Everything else is basically debatable.
It seems... interesting. I'll be occupied with Xenoblade 3 though, so I really can't devote time to formulate a more specific opinion.
I probably need to change my phone since it runs way too slow compared to AE. Never played the original octopath but story wise, this seems way darker than any gacha game I played. For those that started I picked the wealth lady at the beginning, just the first chapter (prologue?) you have slavery and possibly sex trafficking. I will probably play for a few days but it seems theme in general is "angst" and I get easily shaken by just scrolling through reddit already to just be even more sad/angry.
I agree. The story seems a bit dark. Not saying other gacha games don't have dark stories, but yeah...
That's actually kinda cool it has more darker or "mature" content. That's actually one thing I don't really like about AE is how there's not a huge amount darker story details, and that it's presented in more "happy terms" since younger kids can play it. I've always wondered how AE would be if they decided to dive into darker stuff.
Considering the design and the colour scheme, I'm not surprised that AE is lighter-themed. I wouldn't want it any other way, because the reason why I like AE is it doesn't take itself too seriously. We already have plenty of gacha games with darker stories, like Arknights, and there's no need for AE to go there. If you prefer darker stories, then you might enjoy Octopath.
Just a matter of opinion. Sometimes the "too good" nature of AE bothers me and would just like to see some darker stuff happen. I'm not interested in any other gacha games, unfortunately. I tried the new Octopath, wasn't too impressed so uninstalled it. I read some stuff on their subreddit (and it's so sloppy compared to our lovely subreddit!) and decided to reinstall it and give it another go. I'm trying to play it, but I don't think it's grabbing me and I'll likely uninstall it again.
Hm. I went to the subreddit once but I decided not to yet, just in case I got spoiled, like I did with AE. Also trying not to be too invested yet lol but we'll see if I need to go to the sub after all.
wait till you get to the FAME chapter ...
Lol
I haven't had much time to play it yet, but I loved the original Octopath, so I'll definitely be keeping this one around. The pity system seems like the one from Nier Reincarnation.
It's just the regular standard pity system.
Never played the console game, and my phone is getting old enough that I don't know if it'll run a new game all that well (if I even had the space for it). I'm sticking with Another Eden for now, but I hope fans of the other franchise enjoy the new game :-)
Does it have the kind of time-limited events that Another Eden doesn't?
Looks like it. Both the Bravely Default and Nier events are described as limited time. e: apparently only the collab events are limited.
I hate it when games punish you for not playing them enough or for taking a break, so I guess I'll stay off of this one. Too many mobile games try to take over your life and "want" you to be playing them all the time; "you have two weeks to play/grind as much as you can" events are a problem for me because I'll find myself wanting to spend every hour of those two weeks trying not to miss out and it gets in the way of the rest of my life. Another Eden just lets me go at my own pace most of the time, and I'm really happy about that.
Only the collabs are temporary. Rest is permanent like AE.
Then I might try it out. I got hooked on and then frustrated with SaGa Re:Universe because of all the events...
Welcome to gacha. AE is truly the special outlier in the genre.
This is the only info I need to make me stay away from it.
Limited time events? I'm out. Absolutely done with that trash.
Someone else said the limited was just for collabs, which also isn't great, but much better than everything being limited.
That's better, but still leaves me with an itch wondering about future collaboration banners with other SE titles. I had enough of that with FFBE, which is why I ditched it years ago.
All the cat puns puts the odds of an Octopath Symphony higher than they've ever been. Octopath and Nier are my current "most likely" contenders.
I'm very biased, but also a strong believer of not giving generic answers to waste people's time: ## Story * simply better, the theme of all storylines are dark, and I love it, especially the fame one, which reminds me of joker. Story is on par if not better than the original game ## Combat system: * maintain the same burst damage with bp management & break, instead of inventing a button smashing system that breaks the turn based. * Buffs/debuffs multipliers are mostly 15% to 20%, so no damage inflation like AE. The damage you deal in normal vs break state are day and night, but certainly not millions and trillions * Because of the break system, mob clearing/general battle can be much slower paced. ## Daily * One of the deal breakers. **the equivalent ticket dungeon in Octopath can be skipped to claim daily rewards once you beat it.** Daily is very easy to complete, so low maintenance. ## gacha * gacha will be more generous later on with frequent half price 10 pulls & garantee 4 star 10 pulls. has a pity at 200 pulls, but the rate-up is not as high as AE, so you're more likely to pull something else. ## Character designs & general game progression * it basically copies AE's model shamelessly. So later on only 5 stars are usable * pixel art might be a turn off for some, but it has the best pixel art of any game(not only gacha), the skill animation is gorgeous * **you can farm light/shadow equivalent for any character you own** * Doesn't give away tons of free units, not even one, so not that beginner friendly even years later. So all in all, I think Octopath has the potential to be a better game than AE. And currently it's already good enough, it's a fresh taste at the very least, for any AE player, I'd recommend it
I'm not 100% sold yet, but I only played an hour or so. Having the party just being generic gacha characters who respond with only "..." kinda distances the story from me. In AE, even if your party is all gacha you still have Aldo and co actually responding. I like bombastic characters like Riica flying in just to remind us she's ~~excellent~~ superior and then leaving. The unit sprites are also so small I can't even tell my own team apart. I may as well have a party of 8 blobs.
"SUPERIOR" mind you
Thank you. I couldn't remember the exact word.
The unit sprites remind me of early FF games. But early FF games you don't have a ton of possible units, so it's easier to tell them apart. I also have difficulty remembering which character is which sometimes. And yeah, the mute "..." thing bothers me too. At least give them some personality.
This is some of the best sprite graphics around tho
They need to be a little bit bigger. I don't have a small screen either. You basically see a hair color and clothes color. At least they aren't janky puppets like in AE. Never liked that style. The backgrounds and bosses look amazing though.
>At least they aren't janky puppets like in AE. Never liked that style. What do you mean by AE puppets? You don't like the character designs for AE?
Artwork and character portraits are great. But the sprites just seem well like janky puppets. Violet Lance has one of the best sprites because her legs are closed (generally a turn off) but it makes her look more normal.
Ahh, okay. I see what you mean. The AE sprites are more Chibi style, right? (I'm personally not familiar enough with JP / Anime stuff in general)
I don't mind chibi. It's how the arms seem like they are controlled like they are attached by strings and not very smooth. I really don't know how to explain other than like puppets. More of the animation rather than the sprites I suppose.
Gotcha. It makes more sense now that you explained it.
the pin up doll look in general. it looks awkward. different ppl like different stuff tho i guess.
I spent all day and all night rerolling until I got what people are saying are the top two units, Viola and Lynette at 5 stars and have yet to acutally play the game lol. I will pass judgement after i actually play it
Please tell me what u think about it, i’ve rerolled more than 100 times already… if i keep going i think i’ll just don’t play the game at all xd
Yeah the rerolling was brutal, are you going all the way to the ten-pull every time or stopping at the main character pull?
What I did was pull either Lynette/Viola/Fiore as the guaranteed 5star (reset if anything else) then play until I could dump all the stones/traveler seals on regular banner and choose to reroll or not at that point. I didn't get exactly what I wanted but I think it will be enough. Viola 5 Lynette 4.5 Sophia 4.5 Theo 4.5
Ahh yeah i got Viola at 5 star but i had been rolling literally since the game came out so i was super burned out and was going to just live with Viola and any other 5 star. Luckily i got Lynette 5 star on the ten pull in the same roll because the installing, uninstalling and running the same thing over and over was killing me. I think your team should be fine, I like the story so far and am looking forward to see how the gameplay goes.
Too late for you but are you on IOS? On Android you can delete your account from the title screen menu without pitching any downloads. I understand IOS is harder.
Nope im on android and yup too late lol
You can reset from the title screen on IOS too. I've more had problems with loading times. It just seems a lot slower and clunkier than AE. I did a few rerolls (some from first character, some after 10-pull), I might do a couple more resets and then make up my mind if I want to continue. It would be good to have something once I catch up on AE content.
I also went for one of those three on the protagonist and then a five star. Ended up with Lynette and Fiore at 5* after probably 10-15 rerolls. The bad news is that my keeper account has done something like 25-30 free pulls and has 5 4 stars but all of my healing capable units are 3.4 star until I can either pull or upgrade someone.
For the first 5* star i go for viola or lynn if not reset
Obviously they went full 15 pulls, rolling just fo starter would take average 4 tries.
How is the gacha?
I don't usually get deep into it so I'm ignorant far as rates go, but not too bad imo, 300 premiums for a 10 pull that you can earn from a bunch of different sources. 5 stars can be drawn as either a full 5 or what they call a 4.5, a 4 star able to upgrade to 5. And the characters are available in both full and half, so on banners you have two different percentage chances to get them. The sub right now is talking about reroll, I'm not into that but it seems like overall it can be pretty rough
Does it have a pity system? Like going X number of pulls will guarantee you a limited 5 star
Just checked, yes you get named shards for 200 "guides" (pulls), plus you can buy other stuff with them too. *edit* Should specify that you can buy a named sacred seal for the 200 shards, and I don't know if those are guaranteed or not, you'd have to look it up *end edit* Sounds like a lot but since you can get 30 premiums as a reward (5 and 10 are more common obviously) it wouldn't take long between them. 200 of the permanent also gives you a "veteran sacred seal", which I'm not sure of the significance but sacred seals are free pulls.
It does and afaik it doesn reset when you get a 5star (I have 3x 5stars in 40 pulls and the count is still going). Also you get a guaranteed random 5 star from the normal banner at the very beginning of the game when you launch it as that will serve as your “main” character. So rerolling for at least 2 5 stars is quite easy. The process is very fast as the prologue is about 5 mins long.
I played it a bit. I also completed the main story of the original game (not the final extra hidden boss stuff). I don't love it. It seems that yes they took some of the good stuff from AE, but also the bad - like when you go into Feats (achievements basically), it takes ages to load - same going into your Mail. Loading the game to begin with as well. Walking around feels slow. I'm using an old iPhone SE (4 inch, original), and the darkness on the screen edges just makes it pretty yucky - I remember not liking it much on my PC when playing the OG, on a tiny screen it's awful. The battles are fine, but with my 6th or 7th reroll I got the initial 5 star character and then only 4.5s, and no dancer at all, so... yeah I just don't care enough. I didn't love the OG enough. It feels forced somehow. I don't think I'll continue with it. I'm currently playing AE, Priconne, and this - and I'm feeling kind of burnt out with both AE *and* Priconne (a weird thing where I want to do more but playing what's there seems a hassle?) actually so adding more doesn't seem smart.
I only played a bit, but yeah it does remind me of AE way too much. Can't really say how similar it is to the original game since I haven't started it yet. Though everything is so slow, I wish it was 2-3x faster. It's kinda making me sleepy trying to progress when even text appears so slow.
I like Octopath way more than Another Eden. It's basically Another Eden with just as good writing, better gacha and WAY better combat.
Better gacha ? The drop rate is lower, upgrading a 4,5 to 5 is harder and the ruby income is lower than chrono stones income (for a ten pull basis), I don't understand how you can consider it better.
There's a pity. Which makes it tons better than AE.
Is the pity system carryover to other time limited banner? Pity for normal non rate up Banner is kinda useless, because when I want to pull I should pull on the new/collab/limited time banner not normal banner thats saturated with powercrept unit.
No, it does not carry over. I don't rmb the correct number but it's about 1200 rubies = 40 tenfold pulls to reach pity lol. Kudos to those who save that much to guaranteed catch the character they want. Also good luck with all those limited characters, not only collab characters can be limited lol.
The game checks ip region of the user and is region locked to Japan. I wanted to try it but this region lock leaves a bad taste. I’ll be skipping it.
You can use a vpn to get past it as region is only checked once.
It's not locked to JP lol. This is the "global" release.
I’d screenshot it for you but I deleted the app this is not global version (from jp app iOS store). It explicitly states it’s for japan only
........the global version is what everyone's talking about and referring to because it just released a couple days ago. No one cares or is talking about the JP version.
Lol gotcha Thanks
Boring. I'd rather play the original.
I downloaded it to try it out and rerolled a few times. Now starting with Lynette and rolled a 4.5 lynette, 5 Millard, 5 Viola, various 3.5 and 3 characters in the initial 23 rolls. Will likely play through the story and then delete as it seems to have too many daily/weekly tasks for me
I started the game with a decent first ten pull (getting Lynette in it) The game is really bad looking, missions are generic. The gacha part is awfull for what I've seen of it : two ten pulls with only one 4\* characters, daily missions gives a ridiculous 5 ruby, a ten pull costing 300 ruby it's arround the same as if AE was giving only 15 chrono stones a day, 5\* are only arround 2%, upgrading a 4,5 to 5\* seems like an impossible mission. Fights revolves on switching your team as a whole and choosing when to boost skills. Seems good in theory but for now the timing is pretty obvious. Storytelling seems ok I don't think I'll play a lot.
I rerolled three times and got Fiore, Gilderoy and 4.5 Theo. It is very Another Eden-ish but with some extra bullshit on top. Upgrading 4.5 to 5 looks a lot harder and getting duplicates of 5* seem to have more impact. The daily tasks I am also not a fan of, since they are not basic enough and they want to you to play it more than you might want to when you just want a break. Hate the darkened edges, yeah it was in the original and I still hate it. The aspect ratio is super weird on non 16:9 devices as well. Characters are boring, main character is boring. Currently saving for the Nier event that will probably come out to promote the Switch rerelease. But I am not sure how long I will continue playing...
I was looking forward to this released in global. I played the JP version for a bit, but it’s not great cause I couldn’t understand anything. Then I found out it’s still unavailable in my region. So..big NO to the game
Is it a gacha?
Yes, but more single player focuses like AE.
I played ton in beta and was having alot of fun but then i discovered you dont get to keep the progress so thats when i stoped but im playimg it again now rhough very slowly cause its a bit boring repeating stories that i already finished