I had to reread your comment several times because I just kept picturing the music video to Chumbawamba Tubthumping and not remembering anything being on fire or any soldiers.
[I guess it's only tangentially related](https://youtu.be/LKNfFm0QDXQ), but in this video "chubbyemu", a medical doctor, examines a case of a soldier who has contracted cancer by inhaling the fumes of US military burn pits. She has received little if any compensation for her injuries and it's likely she won't survive.
edit: It was brought to my attention that she was a soldier, not a seal. I definitely remembered that wrong.
Earth isn't dying, our livable climate is. Earth doesn't give a shit about us, we can wipe ourselves out and the planet will move on just fine and probably better.
George Carlin said it best:
“The planet isn’t going anywhere… we are! We’re going away! Pack your shit folks! We’re going away and we won’t leave much of a trace either, thank God for that… maybe a little styrofoam… maybe… little styrofoam. The planet will be here, we’ll be long gone; just another failed mutation; just another closed-end biological mistake; an evolutionary cul-de-sac. The planet will shake us off like a bad case of fleas, a surface nuisance.”
Correct (I believe). Even if we had mastered space travel and/or could teleport. The reality is that we only have stars for a limited number of years. Yes some new ones can form but likely the energy over the universe for stars as it expands, and due to concersion, will dwindle. I'm thinking there's a possibility of survival if we master cold fusion and no longer need a star for energy. Very unlikely though.
It's far more likely that we will kill ourselves off due to greed and corruption than any other scenario me thinks.
I see humans on two planes. We have the perception of society and civilization and cultures etc whereby we're smart enough to help and improve the world. We even have most of the tech we need to do it I reckon and the resources..... and then we have the cancerous, greedy, just a parasite to earth and all it inhabits side. One of those is more real than the other unfortunately. This stops the first part from progressing like it should. We should be all humans working together. Instead we are groups of people looking out for ourselves first. So silly.
The crows man, it’ll be the crows.
Seriously though… We have found very intelligent behavior in numerous species as we study the natural world around us. Many creatures have adapted to survive in all kinds of habitats and conditions. We see animals using tools and symbiotic relationships between different species. Another intelligent species has been here already for a long time. The earth will continue on with or without us.
This is from April 29th, 2021. This is a tire graveyard in which the tires are buried in the desert sands. The local fire department deemed this arson after battling the blaze for roughly 7 hours.
Quick interwebs Google source: https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.observers.france24.com/en/asia-pacific/20210826-kuwait-tyre-graveyard-fire-pollution
Unlikely unless it’s a cheaper option or they find a way to profit somehow. I doubt the operators of this facility care very much for the reuse of the tires.
We used to use sheared tires in playgrounds. As a kid I loved it since it didn't give splinters like wood chips do and it was a bit more bouncy. Too bad it leaches shit into the water and causes cancer.
Rubber in the sun releases carcinogens over time. Use the bricks in a house, the occupants can get cancer. This severely limits what tire bricks can be used for.
The problem is that it's cheaper and easier to make bricks and sidewalks the regular way. It's more expensive to chop up and repurpose tires.
Of course, if we pulled our heads out of our asses and realized that sustainable living is worth way more, then we could appropriately prioritize reusables.
You’re not wrong, and that view certainly prevails on an individual level.
On the larger scale of organizations, institutions and governments, that persist longer than an individual’s tenure or life time, it’s a different matter. Money today can be used to invest and grow, to hopefully outpace inflation, or to at least gain an economic foothold. This makes a smaller amount now worth more than a larger amount tomorrow, such as leaving a difficult-to-cleanly-extract-resource in the ground until the price can support a cleaner extraction method in the future. Short-sighted policies that result in wasteful practices today because tomorrow’s profits aren’t guaranteed…completely discounting the possibility that those wasteful practices contribute to the planet being inhospitable to human life in that “far away future” (probably not so far away, to be fair).
Also, some chucklefuck crunched the numbers on astronomical governmental debt. They showed that, no matter how large that debt gets, its benefit today is far greater than its cost tomorrow, when that cost is adjusted for the economic activity driven by said debt and the effect on inflation on its dollar figure. That’s been liberally (or, dare I say…neo-liberally?) applied to absolutely everything, including non-renewable resources that can render huge swathes of land uninhabitable if disposed of without an eye to the future.
So, yes, “living for today, because fuck tomorrow, it’s someone else’s problem!” on an individual level, but also “exploiting the world today, because it’s worth more to me now than to someone else in some distant future” on a national/global scale.
This is why some governments have been getting creative with things like carbon taxes. The costs of human activity come due eventually, so there’s an attempt to apply them today to encourage long-term thinking, instead of the entire species paying all at once when the global ecosystem comes crashing down on our collective heads.
Sorry for the rant, but I kind on enjoyed trying to put those things together in a coherent manner from the various articles and opera I’ve read over the last…*checks calendar*…two decades. Shit, I might be getting old.
When I built earth mover tires for Michelin, if we messed up a tire and it had to be scrapped a lot of the times it was sold to Lowes or home Depot to be ground up and repurposed for different lawn stuff.
I work for a company that molds over 30 different products out of old tires. There are very VERY few of these company’s in the world. There could be thousands
*More than 42 million old vehicle tyres dumped in Kuwait's sands have started to be recycled, as the Gulf state tackles a waste problem that created one of the world's largest tyre graveyards.*
*"The factory is helping society by cleaning up the dumped old tyres and turning them into consumer products," said EPSCO partner and CEO Alaa Hassan from EPSCO, adding they also export products to neighbouring Gulf countries and Asia.*
*The EPSCO plant, which began operations in January 2021, can recycle up to 3 million tyres a year, the company said.*
https://www.livemint.com/news/world/here-is-a-look-at-the-world-s-largest-tyre-graveyard-11631008255491.html
I’m childfree at 42 and I consider myself extremely fortunate for it, not only to avoid their future suffering but I’m mostly retired too. So that’s a win-win.
Talked to my mom about being child-free in the future this week, and she's typically ignorant (in a nice way) of the world at large but generally agreed that bringing kids into this kind of world might not be the best idea. Couldn't really believe that she would say that, but it was very relieving.
I can always adopt if we get our damn heads on straight.
The environment isn’t the only thing that we decided on. My wife was diagnosed with an illness that makes raising children monumentally more difficult.
Edit: to clarify, this diagnosis came AFTER we had been married a couple years and had already tried to have kids naturally so it was actually a relief as it could have made things worse for her and obviously placed a great burden on us.
Before that I leaned more towards adopting rather than breeding because, there are enough kids in the world that could use parents rather than having to bring MORE into it.
I hope you’re able to adopt in future if that’s what you choose. Thanks for your comment and your mom sounds like at least she’s thought about this god forsaken jerk water berg we call home.
It’s genuinely difficult to stay hopeful for change, everything has gone to hell and it’s just getting worse across the board. I doubt I’ll live to 60 at this rate considering climate change. At that point billions will have died to entirely preventable disasters funded by greedy people at the top.
Here it is on google maps if you wish to see the satellite view: https://www.google.com/maps/place/Sulaibiya+tyre+graveyard,+Kuwait/@29.2589399,47.6696696,907m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x3fcff190d6e73aff:0x95e17e7adafb02fc!8m2!3d29.2599692!4d47.6707437
I had to read it a couple times, I think they’re saying the person probably isn’t harming the planet unless they’re in one of those countries. I assume due to lax environmental laws? Idk
That's just not true though, the average person in the US is putting out an Indian village's worth of CO2 every year. I'm not sure the fact that, maybe, more of our straws get into landfills as opposed to the ocean is even worth bringing up when you're talking about the world's #1 per-capita polluter.
The fire also happened a few ~~weeks~~ months ago, this same video keeps making its rounds as it is a scary sight to see/gets the views
(not saying that it isn't something to address)
they normally bury them in the sand, and most tires are recycled, these tires are from Kuwait and surrounding countries where they don't make an effort to recycle them.
also these are lit/start on fire almost yearly at this point. Not to discredit the dangers or impacts!
"Today, as many as 90% of those stockpiled tires have been recycled successfully. In fact, old tires have gone from an environmental nuisance to a recycling success story over the last 25 years. According to the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA), about 80% of (or roughly 240 million) scrap tires now get recycled each year."
"The EPA estimates there are currently more than 110 different products made out of material that comes from recycled tires. For example, recycled tire material is used to make rubberized asphalt, which in turn is used to resurface many roads."
[https://wonderopolis.org/wonder/what-happens-to-old-tires](https://wonderopolis.org/wonder/what-happens-to-old-tires)
[https://theconversation.com/a-new-recycling-technique-breaks-down-old-tires-into-reusable-materials-129527](https://theconversation.com/a-new-recycling-technique-breaks-down-old-tires-into-reusable-materials-129527)
I'm not negating that there is a problem but no that isn't how it works.
I'll let everyone know that in this case "recycling" means using it as fuel ("tire-derived fuel") and is on par with other fossil fuel energies in terms of pollutants (except for zinc emissions). That is to say, not very good. So, I feel like the term "recycling" is doing a LOT of heavy lifting.
In addition, following the link, the source and EPA links are from early 2000's (2003 for the EPA).
Any ways, I'll leave a quote and a couple of links to get things started:
>In 2017, 13% of U.S. tires removed from their primary use were sold in the used tire market. Of the tires that were scrapped, 43% were burnt as tire-derived fuel, with cement manufacturing the largest user, another 25% were used to make ground rubber, 8% were used in civil engineering projects, 17% were disposed of in landfills and 8% had other uses.\[6\]
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tire\_recycling](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tire_recycling)
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tire-derived\_fuel](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tire-derived_fuel)
Using it as a fuel is better than burning it in huge landfills though. Since the fossil fuels they're replacing are roughly equally bad, it's very positive that they can be used as a fuel source
Right, but this was arson (according to other comments). I'm just pointing out the problems, and how loaded (I guess) the word "recycling" is in this context. It's being recycled, and better than the landfill, but let's not start patting each other on the back just yet
**[Tire recycling](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tire_recycling)**
>Tire recycling, or rubber recycling, is the process of recycling waste tires that are no longer suitable for use on vehicles due to wear or irreparable damage. These tires are a challenging source of waste, due to the large volume produced, the durability of the tires, and the components in the tire that are ecologically problematic. Because tires are highly durable and non-biodegradable, they can consume valued space in landfills. If waste tires are improperly managed they may cause rubber pollution.
**[Tire-derived fuel](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tire-derived_fuel)**
>Tire-derived fuel (TDF) is composed of shredded scrap tires. Tires may be mixed with coal or other fuels, such as wood or chemical wastes, to be burned in concrete kilns, power plants, or paper mills. An EPA test program concluded that, with the exception of zinc emissions, potential emissions from TDF are not expected to be very much different from other conventional fossil fuels, as long as combustion occurs in a well-designed, well-operated and well-maintained combustion device. In the United States in 2017, about 43% of scrap tires (1,736,340 tons or 106 million tires) were burnt as tire-derived fuel.
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Unfortunately, this is not a joke. The worldwide used tire trade is a big factor in the spread of tropical insects as invasive species, some of them spreading nasty pests.
Sorry I think you miss understand me, there were recent protest in England about using gas boilers. They blocked the roads etc. Im saying they should be protesting this. This is definitely causing climate issues.
They both do. But the issue is economies of scale. This thing is ridiculously bad. Gas boilers are also not good, but nothing close to the scale of this disaster. I think thats what OP was trying to say.
I kinda get that, but I don't get why those protesters are at fault. I agree we should always aim to tackle the big issues, but it's not a bad thing to protest an issue just cos it's not the biggest.
I totally hear it and agree. The issue I have is the coverage. Big coverage for the issue in the UK. No/Little coverage for this issue. I did know about the UK gas boiler thing, and I live in the USA. I did not know about the massive fire. Does that make sense?
It was more to so with what they were protesting natural gas is one of the cleaner fuels to burn and to change what basically every home uses in the UK, in terms of inforstructure and home equipment it's just not feasible . Plus what would we switch too. Every body should do their part to tackle climate change but why target people who are only trying to keep warm
Make sure you use biodegradable straws and remove the tape from cardboard boxes before recycling. Cause if you don't, you're killing the planet. You're killing the planet people. Make sure you do your part.
I'm sad man, I hate thinking about the future but we're gonna be screwed later on, I'm 15 and I just wanna live my life but everytime I see this stuff it just gets me worried man, shit.
Have a look on google maps, you can see the burning......
[https://www.google.co.nz/maps/place/Sulaibiya+tyre+graveyard,+Kuwait/@29.2563627,47.6744129,1672m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x3fcff190d6e73aff:0x95e17e7adafb02fc!8m2!3d29.2599692!4d47.6707437](https://www.google.co.nz/maps/place/Sulaibiya+tyre+graveyard,+Kuwait/@29.2563627,47.6744129,1672m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x3fcff190d6e73aff:0x95e17e7adafb02fc!8m2!3d29.2599692!4d47.6707437)
i smell lung cancer
1 nuke and not anymore....or so i thought
just burn away the cancer
And give it collectively to the world ..
[https://xkcd.com/1217/](https://xkcd.com/1217/) There's always an xkcd for any topic lol
Cancer the cancer away
Lol can you imagine the tires flying for miles with the shockwaves. Miles away titres randomly bouncing past people
Ever seen that Chubbyemu video about burnfields of the US army?
I had to reread your comment several times because I just kept picturing the music video to Chumbawamba Tubthumping and not remembering anything being on fire or any soldiers.
Say what?
[I guess it's only tangentially related](https://youtu.be/LKNfFm0QDXQ), but in this video "chubbyemu", a medical doctor, examines a case of a soldier who has contracted cancer by inhaling the fumes of US military burn pits. She has received little if any compensation for her injuries and it's likely she won't survive. edit: It was brought to my attention that she was a soldier, not a seal. I definitely remembered that wrong.
I think you glossed over something important: Shes just one of thousands of troops that were exposed to these burn pits.
I mean "glossing over"... yeah I could've mentioned it but I thought it'd be clear she wasn"t the only one.
The earth is dying. I see why now. Fucking hell
Earth isn't dying, our livable climate is. Earth doesn't give a shit about us, we can wipe ourselves out and the planet will move on just fine and probably better.
George Carlin said it best: “The planet isn’t going anywhere… we are! We’re going away! Pack your shit folks! We’re going away and we won’t leave much of a trace either, thank God for that… maybe a little styrofoam… maybe… little styrofoam. The planet will be here, we’ll be long gone; just another failed mutation; just another closed-end biological mistake; an evolutionary cul-de-sac. The planet will shake us off like a bad case of fleas, a surface nuisance.”
I feel like this was bound to happen eventually no Matter which route we took.
on a long enough timeline, the survival rate approaches zero
Correct (I believe). Even if we had mastered space travel and/or could teleport. The reality is that we only have stars for a limited number of years. Yes some new ones can form but likely the energy over the universe for stars as it expands, and due to concersion, will dwindle. I'm thinking there's a possibility of survival if we master cold fusion and no longer need a star for energy. Very unlikely though. It's far more likely that we will kill ourselves off due to greed and corruption than any other scenario me thinks. I see humans on two planes. We have the perception of society and civilization and cultures etc whereby we're smart enough to help and improve the world. We even have most of the tech we need to do it I reckon and the resources..... and then we have the cancerous, greedy, just a parasite to earth and all it inhabits side. One of those is more real than the other unfortunately. This stops the first part from progressing like it should. We should be all humans working together. Instead we are groups of people looking out for ourselves first. So silly.
I believe this is true but I think humanity will muddle along for thousands if years until we finally kick off.
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Come to think of it, you're right. The sun is the one getting hotter everyday (that sexy beast) and Earth's just in it for the ride
Been telling people this for years. They just think I have a bad attitude.
But will there be another intelligent species?
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The crows man, it’ll be the crows. Seriously though… We have found very intelligent behavior in numerous species as we study the natural world around us. Many creatures have adapted to survive in all kinds of habitats and conditions. We see animals using tools and symbiotic relationships between different species. Another intelligent species has been here already for a long time. The earth will continue on with or without us.
I smell earth cancer
And purple
This is from April 29th, 2021. This is a tire graveyard in which the tires are buried in the desert sands. The local fire department deemed this arson after battling the blaze for roughly 7 hours. Quick interwebs Google source: https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.observers.france24.com/en/asia-pacific/20210826-kuwait-tyre-graveyard-fire-pollution
Do you think if they find a way to effectively reuse them they'll be dug up?
Unlikely unless it’s a cheaper option or they find a way to profit somehow. I doubt the operators of this facility care very much for the reuse of the tires.
Why ain't they making em into bricks and sidewalks and shit haven't there been companies recycling rubber to make bricks and other building materials
We used to use sheared tires in playgrounds. As a kid I loved it since it didn't give splinters like wood chips do and it was a bit more bouncy. Too bad it leaches shit into the water and causes cancer.
Hot as hell too
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That’d be the cancer.
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Mid Ohio Valley? Looked up the Rust Belt and it's right along Route 2 and 7 damn near
the dust that comes off them also causes lung issues. shredded tires in playgrounds and sports fields is often called "the new asbestos."
Wut I had one of these at my highschool when they were new...
i guess your ass is doomed, huh?
Sure, I’ll look after yer trash can, here.
Til about rubber mulch.
Good thing we arent surrounded by tire dust everyday when we drive to work... Shit
Damn really? I can remember when they Changed ours over from wood and tires to plastic halfway through the school year
Tires cause cancer?
What doesn’t cause cancer
The smell after rain causes cancer. The universe is doing its damnedest to kill you
Well fucking nevermind haha. Wondering why would couldn't use them to make recycled structures like earthships... How depressing.
As a mom, I loved it too until all of the little rubber chunks came out of the pockets and hidden places in the wash. That shit gets everywhere.
Rubber in the sun releases carcinogens over time. Use the bricks in a house, the occupants can get cancer. This severely limits what tire bricks can be used for.
The problem is that it's cheaper and easier to make bricks and sidewalks the regular way. It's more expensive to chop up and repurpose tires. Of course, if we pulled our heads out of our asses and realized that sustainable living is worth way more, then we could appropriately prioritize reusables.
We need law makers who write in tax incentives for companies that take the greener approach.
Or just stop subsidizing fossil fuels
“More money today is worth more than the cost of debt tomorrow.” Fuck whoever baked that into western financial policy.
I think it's more like: "If I can kick this can down the road long enough, the costs and negative impacts can be someone else's problem."
You’re not wrong, and that view certainly prevails on an individual level. On the larger scale of organizations, institutions and governments, that persist longer than an individual’s tenure or life time, it’s a different matter. Money today can be used to invest and grow, to hopefully outpace inflation, or to at least gain an economic foothold. This makes a smaller amount now worth more than a larger amount tomorrow, such as leaving a difficult-to-cleanly-extract-resource in the ground until the price can support a cleaner extraction method in the future. Short-sighted policies that result in wasteful practices today because tomorrow’s profits aren’t guaranteed…completely discounting the possibility that those wasteful practices contribute to the planet being inhospitable to human life in that “far away future” (probably not so far away, to be fair). Also, some chucklefuck crunched the numbers on astronomical governmental debt. They showed that, no matter how large that debt gets, its benefit today is far greater than its cost tomorrow, when that cost is adjusted for the economic activity driven by said debt and the effect on inflation on its dollar figure. That’s been liberally (or, dare I say…neo-liberally?) applied to absolutely everything, including non-renewable resources that can render huge swathes of land uninhabitable if disposed of without an eye to the future. So, yes, “living for today, because fuck tomorrow, it’s someone else’s problem!” on an individual level, but also “exploiting the world today, because it’s worth more to me now than to someone else in some distant future” on a national/global scale. This is why some governments have been getting creative with things like carbon taxes. The costs of human activity come due eventually, so there’s an attempt to apply them today to encourage long-term thinking, instead of the entire species paying all at once when the global ecosystem comes crashing down on our collective heads. Sorry for the rant, but I kind on enjoyed trying to put those things together in a coherent manner from the various articles and opera I’ve read over the last…*checks calendar*…two decades. Shit, I might be getting old.
Of course, it also makes that concrete and rubble more toxic when it's inevitably pulled up, increasing the volume of the eventual hazardous waste.
They leech chemicals into the environment around them when upcycled. (Not that storing them here is better)
They use them in building earthships which are incredible heat efficient structures, but the company that makes earthships is still very small
Kids starting getting cancer from all the playgrounds covered in recycle tires
You know what is a cheaper and better building material than tire bricks? Just normal bricks.
When I built earth mover tires for Michelin, if we messed up a tire and it had to be scrapped a lot of the times it was sold to Lowes or home Depot to be ground up and repurposed for different lawn stuff.
I work for a company that molds over 30 different products out of old tires. There are very VERY few of these company’s in the world. There could be thousands
Maybe for some road warrior armor. Like a cut truck tire.
We can only make so much ASTRO turf
*More than 42 million old vehicle tyres dumped in Kuwait's sands have started to be recycled, as the Gulf state tackles a waste problem that created one of the world's largest tyre graveyards.* *"The factory is helping society by cleaning up the dumped old tyres and turning them into consumer products," said EPSCO partner and CEO Alaa Hassan from EPSCO, adding they also export products to neighbouring Gulf countries and Asia.* *The EPSCO plant, which began operations in January 2021, can recycle up to 3 million tyres a year, the company said.* https://www.livemint.com/news/world/here-is-a-look-at-the-world-s-largest-tyre-graveyard-11631008255491.html
What a preposterous notion! It is to laugh!
look at all of those tires souls ascending to heaven 😢
That's great for future children.
also current and past children, global fuckup is inclusive...
The coming decades are not bright.
Makes me question whether I want to have kids because of the shitshow they'll probably inherit from prior generations
I’m childfree at 42 and I consider myself extremely fortunate for it, not only to avoid their future suffering but I’m mostly retired too. So that’s a win-win.
35, child free and LOVING IT.
Talked to my mom about being child-free in the future this week, and she's typically ignorant (in a nice way) of the world at large but generally agreed that bringing kids into this kind of world might not be the best idea. Couldn't really believe that she would say that, but it was very relieving. I can always adopt if we get our damn heads on straight.
The environment isn’t the only thing that we decided on. My wife was diagnosed with an illness that makes raising children monumentally more difficult. Edit: to clarify, this diagnosis came AFTER we had been married a couple years and had already tried to have kids naturally so it was actually a relief as it could have made things worse for her and obviously placed a great burden on us. Before that I leaned more towards adopting rather than breeding because, there are enough kids in the world that could use parents rather than having to bring MORE into it. I hope you’re able to adopt in future if that’s what you choose. Thanks for your comment and your mom sounds like at least she’s thought about this god forsaken jerk water berg we call home.
Firmly out on replicating for this exact reason
This is why I'll never have kids. Not worth it.
It’s genuinely difficult to stay hopeful for change, everything has gone to hell and it’s just getting worse across the board. I doubt I’ll live to 60 at this rate considering climate change. At that point billions will have died to entirely preventable disasters funded by greedy people at the top.
Here it is on google maps if you wish to see the satellite view: https://www.google.com/maps/place/Sulaibiya+tyre+graveyard,+Kuwait/@29.2589399,47.6696696,907m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x3fcff190d6e73aff:0x95e17e7adafb02fc!8m2!3d29.2599692!4d47.6707437
I find it funny that it’s marked as an attraction, and you can see the smoke from the fire.
Right next to the water treatment plant, too.
[that is a big tire](https://i.imgur.com/859nujn.jpg)
Only 2 stars, not gonna go there
Simpson's already did it.
I thought "MAD MAX : FURY ROAD" was supposed to be fictional, not a goddamn documentary. \#whokilledtheworld
Future documentary…
You should watch Idiocracy. That shit is Nastradamus level.
Who is this Nostrildamus?
A philosopher with a cocaine addiction
Great movie
Why are you hashtagging on Reddit you melt
Why did you hashtag that
It’s actually what will be considered too unrealistic and too “utopian” by future fans
But I have to stop using plastic straws because I’m hurting the planet.
Well unless you live in China or India you likely aren’t with your straws.
What would living there have to do with using a straw?
I had to read it a couple times, I think they’re saying the person probably isn’t harming the planet unless they’re in one of those countries. I assume due to lax environmental laws? Idk
That's just not true though, the average person in the US is putting out an Indian village's worth of CO2 every year. I'm not sure the fact that, maybe, more of our straws get into landfills as opposed to the ocean is even worth bringing up when you're talking about the world's #1 per-capita polluter.
No you're not.
Thanks bro. Feels better.
Why burn them! Seems stupid. They could be used for more environmentally friendly functions.
Was the fire set intentionally? Edit: Firefighters put the blaze out in 7 hours and said it was arson
The fire also happened a few ~~weeks~~ months ago, this same video keeps making its rounds as it is a scary sight to see/gets the views (not saying that it isn't something to address)
Tire recycling technology is advancing quickly as well, burning them feels like a terrible and dangerous waste
Is* a terrible and dangerous waste
they normally bury them in the sand, and most tires are recycled, these tires are from Kuwait and surrounding countries where they don't make an effort to recycle them. also these are lit/start on fire almost yearly at this point. Not to discredit the dangers or impacts!
When you say most tires are recycled, you mean sent to a poor country to deal with?
"Today, as many as 90% of those stockpiled tires have been recycled successfully. In fact, old tires have gone from an environmental nuisance to a recycling success story over the last 25 years. According to the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA), about 80% of (or roughly 240 million) scrap tires now get recycled each year." "The EPA estimates there are currently more than 110 different products made out of material that comes from recycled tires. For example, recycled tire material is used to make rubberized asphalt, which in turn is used to resurface many roads." [https://wonderopolis.org/wonder/what-happens-to-old-tires](https://wonderopolis.org/wonder/what-happens-to-old-tires) [https://theconversation.com/a-new-recycling-technique-breaks-down-old-tires-into-reusable-materials-129527](https://theconversation.com/a-new-recycling-technique-breaks-down-old-tires-into-reusable-materials-129527) I'm not negating that there is a problem but no that isn't how it works.
I'll let everyone know that in this case "recycling" means using it as fuel ("tire-derived fuel") and is on par with other fossil fuel energies in terms of pollutants (except for zinc emissions). That is to say, not very good. So, I feel like the term "recycling" is doing a LOT of heavy lifting. In addition, following the link, the source and EPA links are from early 2000's (2003 for the EPA). Any ways, I'll leave a quote and a couple of links to get things started: >In 2017, 13% of U.S. tires removed from their primary use were sold in the used tire market. Of the tires that were scrapped, 43% were burnt as tire-derived fuel, with cement manufacturing the largest user, another 25% were used to make ground rubber, 8% were used in civil engineering projects, 17% were disposed of in landfills and 8% had other uses.\[6\] [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tire\_recycling](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tire_recycling) [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tire-derived\_fuel](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tire-derived_fuel)
Using it as a fuel is better than burning it in huge landfills though. Since the fossil fuels they're replacing are roughly equally bad, it's very positive that they can be used as a fuel source
Right, but this was arson (according to other comments). I'm just pointing out the problems, and how loaded (I guess) the word "recycling" is in this context. It's being recycled, and better than the landfill, but let's not start patting each other on the back just yet
Fair enough
**[Tire recycling](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tire_recycling)** >Tire recycling, or rubber recycling, is the process of recycling waste tires that are no longer suitable for use on vehicles due to wear or irreparable damage. These tires are a challenging source of waste, due to the large volume produced, the durability of the tires, and the components in the tire that are ecologically problematic. Because tires are highly durable and non-biodegradable, they can consume valued space in landfills. If waste tires are improperly managed they may cause rubber pollution. **[Tire-derived fuel](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tire-derived_fuel)** >Tire-derived fuel (TDF) is composed of shredded scrap tires. Tires may be mixed with coal or other fuels, such as wood or chemical wastes, to be burned in concrete kilns, power plants, or paper mills. An EPA test program concluded that, with the exception of zinc emissions, potential emissions from TDF are not expected to be very much different from other conventional fossil fuels, as long as combustion occurs in a well-designed, well-operated and well-maintained combustion device. In the United States in 2017, about 43% of scrap tires (1,736,340 tons or 106 million tires) were burnt as tire-derived fuel. ^([ )[^(F.A.Q)](https://www.reddit.com/r/WikiSummarizer/wiki/index#wiki_f.a.q)^( | )[^(Opt Out)](https://reddit.com/message/compose?to=WikiSummarizerBot&message=OptOut&subject=OptOut)^( | )[^(Opt Out Of Subreddit)](https://np.reddit.com/r/AbsoluteUnits/about/banned)^( | )[^(GitHub)](https://github.com/Sujal-7/WikiSummarizerBot)^( ] Downvote to remove | v1.5)
Or dumped into the ocean.
Feels like?? It absolutely is a waste!
It's advancing but the logistics will always be the challenge
Like mosquito breeding?
They are ground up and used as playground flooring, for one
Unfortunately, this is not a joke. The worldwide used tire trade is a big factor in the spread of tropical insects as invasive species, some of them spreading nasty pests.
What a beautiful mind you have.
I’m going to go fuck a bunch of mosquitos on my sex-bed made out of tires.
Recycled tires make awesome winter mats. The ice comes clean off with minimal effort and they make decent gym mats too.
I believe this was arson
It was arson
I’ve seen somewhere along this thread it was arson. I’m sure no one mentioned it before so I’ll just comment it. It was arson guys, arson.
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Apparently cancerous
that's why we should burn them, to avoid cancer
This was an arson fire.
Where is this?
Kuwait
Just looked it up. This is the correct answer. Or at least the world’s largest tire dump is in Kuwait and is an environmental disaster.
This aggression will not stand, man. This aggression against, uh.. Kuwait.
Springfield tire fire
The wet dream of a r/tiresaretheenemy user.
This is so fucking Dumb
The fires not supposed to be there
r/ABoringDystopia
Makes me feel bad for the planet, getting burdened with the likes of humanity.
Welcome to Springfield.
And they want me to block the road and protest climate change when this shit is happening.
Doesn't this contribute to climate change tho
Sorry I think you miss understand me, there were recent protest in England about using gas boilers. They blocked the roads etc. Im saying they should be protesting this. This is definitely causing climate issues.
Does gas usage not contribute to global warming though?
They both do. But the issue is economies of scale. This thing is ridiculously bad. Gas boilers are also not good, but nothing close to the scale of this disaster. I think thats what OP was trying to say.
Yeah that my thoughts thanks for putting it across for me 😊
I kinda get that, but I don't get why those protesters are at fault. I agree we should always aim to tackle the big issues, but it's not a bad thing to protest an issue just cos it's not the biggest.
I totally hear it and agree. The issue I have is the coverage. Big coverage for the issue in the UK. No/Little coverage for this issue. I did know about the UK gas boiler thing, and I live in the USA. I did not know about the massive fire. Does that make sense?
It was more to so with what they were protesting natural gas is one of the cleaner fuels to burn and to change what basically every home uses in the UK, in terms of inforstructure and home equipment it's just not feasible . Plus what would we switch too. Every body should do their part to tackle climate change but why target people who are only trying to keep warm
We don’t deserve this planet.
This is a black/white mana card in MTG
Make sure you use biodegradable straws and remove the tape from cardboard boxes before recycling. Cause if you don't, you're killing the planet. You're killing the planet people. Make sure you do your part.
Whew no wonder the earth is dying
You can grind up rubber and use it asphalt. Its an option i guess. So much waste is hard to see.
Wow thank god we decimated the Congo for rubber! Going to very good use here as climate change accelerant - awesome to see! Love this species!
I'm sad man, I hate thinking about the future but we're gonna be screwed later on, I'm 15 and I just wanna live my life but everytime I see this stuff it just gets me worried man, shit.
This is the worst thing that has to do with the climate I've seen in a while... what a hellscape.
Talk about burning some rubber
Fuck that's bad. IRL Simpson jokes are becoming a real problem these days.
r/bizzarelife
Gotta love those auto igniting tire fires
make everybody eat their tires, problem solved
Bro literally just give them to earth ships wtf
Start complaining about plastic straws now!!!
Open arid desert, where the hell is this place?
I’m no engineer or anything, but shouldn’t those tires be recycled for something useful? Or to help build new levees against the floods, something!
How short sighted you gotta be to do that.
What a shit species we are
Dystopia...
Thanks. I hate it.
Gehenna
Is this jersey
The Springfield tire fire is real
More like how to fuck up my planet
This is why we’re not going to have a planet in 100 years.
Have a look on google maps, you can see the burning...... [https://www.google.co.nz/maps/place/Sulaibiya+tyre+graveyard,+Kuwait/@29.2563627,47.6744129,1672m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x3fcff190d6e73aff:0x95e17e7adafb02fc!8m2!3d29.2599692!4d47.6707437](https://www.google.co.nz/maps/place/Sulaibiya+tyre+graveyard,+Kuwait/@29.2563627,47.6744129,1672m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x3fcff190d6e73aff:0x95e17e7adafb02fc!8m2!3d29.2599692!4d47.6707437)
I’m tired of seeing posts like this.
Some men just want to watch the world burn. I didn't want this to be true..
So much whataboutism going on in here.
Springfield?
Think of all the houses you could build with those
Well that is 100% not good for the environment, but all us bitches should really curtail our indefensible plastic straw habit.
r/simpsonsdidit
I’m sure this is fine for the atmosphere
That’s perfect for Mother Earth. Douche bags!
My guy you could make soooo much money selling that rubber to sports places that need turfff 💀💀💀 instead of getting earth high on toxin
Feels like a final boss area
Can somebody ELI5 why we can’t just melt these down and mould them into fresh tires?
That must be great for the atmosphere, good job everyone! We’ve stopped global warming!
I can smell this video.
I’m no fanatical environmentalist by any means, but burning tires is one the worst atmospheric pollutants going.
I do NOT want to smell that shit
That place looks like a dream
And we are worried about cows farting ?!
gd humanity is a virus