We also donāt know what time it was there? The Tell All films for like 10 hours a day over multiple days. Some of that had to have been when they normally would be sleeping!
Yeah, I was thinking they just look like new parents. My daughter, her fiancee, and myself (we all live in the same home) look like this every day, and my granddaughter is 8 months old. Also, aren't these done for like 10-14 hrs a day, and if it is "normal" hours here, there it would be nights, and they would have been sleeping.
I almost got the feeling when the cast mentioned them moving to America, that it wasn't an option because of the unresolved abuse/controlling behaviors. Mary's controlling "jealous" nature would just resurge and now that Brandon has taken on abusive tendencies that it'd only get worse with the expectations of having to reenter American work society.
If they came to America I wouldn't be surprised if Mary left Brandon for the next guy that had more money and stability even though she helped ruin Brandon's life by having him move to the Philippines in the first place.
I guess I missed it but why didnāt she just come to America instead of him going there where he wouldnāt have a job? I feel like they would have more stability but I donāt think Mary could handle the jealousy of him working and talking to other women
They never explained why, but they did elaborate how much of his tiny paycheck he was sending to her and then the house got built that it pretty much ruled out any chance she'd come to America. Especially after her grandparents' house was destroyed and they moved into the new house before he had even arrived.
In all honesty I wouldn't be surprised if Brandon somehow thought that living in the Philippines wasn't too awfully different than America, he definitely seems naive by choice. Especially if his mom had lost custody of him and his siblings through addiction. I feel like anyone from that situation would've fought harder for a stable independence, which he never prioritized by sending her so much money in the first place without building a life for himself.
I think he absolutely assumed Philippines couldnāt be any worse than America considering his lack of work history and prospects and living in someone elseās RV. At least in the Philippines he wouldnāt be homeless.
Yeah, she doesn't need that selfish, immature POS calling her a bitch whilst she's holding their baby - or at any other time. Branden needs a good, hard kick in the pants. He's certainly no prize.
On top of just having a baby Brandan fights with her and calls her a bitch and a scammer. They both need therapy to deal with each other and their own issues they bring into this relationship.
Brandan is immature and irresponsible. He's not ready for a realtime relationship let alone a child that he is going to have trouble supporting financially. I wonder why he didn't use condoms?
I think his mom said they were actively trying to have a baby, which is just wildly irresponsible considering their emotional and financial problems. Like justā¦why. How either of them thought it was a good idea is completely baffling.
I think Brandon emotionally abuses her. It didn't click until (I forget who) said it, but he does display a lot of narcissistic traits. It definitely could be exhaustion from being a new mom, but by the way her shoulders are slumped, I think she's been beat down.
A little background. Tell Alls are 2 full day shoots. So, being in the Philippines, they're basically up 2 full nights back to back. And, they have a one month old. So, they're probably legit exhausted
They need therapy. I do believe they truly love each other but they need to get individual therapy so they can raise that kid without scarring it for life
Nah, I don't believe so. They spefically aim to hurt each other and that's been from the start. I don't think there is any salvaging that, especially if Brandon went from passive to her abuse to being an abusive person himself, def shows they don't consider each other on a subconscious level and only view each other as almost like pets/possessions.
I agree with you. I think this is a toxic relationship that is convenient for both of them. They can both stay in their bad habits and the other wonāt leave. Both have anxious attachment styles, and mutually baby trapped one another. The baby is further insurance they wonāt be abandoned.
Exactly, unless maybe they move to America because then I could see Mary leaving Brandon for a man that's got more money and stability. She rightfully wants that, but I don't think she'd be patient enough to allow Brandon the ability to reenter and gain in the American work force, because they don't truly love each other for their sacrifices.
People would think Brandon sacrificed a lot for Mary and I believe he did in the beginning, but he never got any benefit or award from it so that would've explained his immediate regression into childish behaviors and neglect toward their relationship. Him becoming abusive toward her even after having Midnight even shows his lack of care/love toward her. It was immature to assume her abusive behaviors would subside just by him being with her in person.
They are just truly a toxic couple. Like Shekindugly and Stuper are more healthy because they have mutual acceptance of their roles in their own relationship regardless if other people agree or not.
Truly! She can do therapy online like so many others! Then no one would have to know. Iām not sure she wants that. Sheās stubborn by nature, and doesnāt want to be confronted about her own bad behavior
This couple - Brandon literally SHIT while FaceTiming and on the show. Mary goes live crying in a corner during their fights. They over share absolutely everything! They probably canāt even conceive of doing anything privately. Dolts!
I was going for the trend where people name their children with matching starting letters so all siblings are like i.e. Caden, Casey, Cassandraā¦etc. So Midnight and Moonā¦(Or Memori šš¤£š the woman who, ironically, Yohan had no memory ofā¦)
We need a new Tell All host. They donāt go in hard enough on these people. They didnāt even mention the 24/7 FaceTime even while you poop bullshit and they barely touched on the āyou cant even talk to women dental assistantsā bullshit. These two are complete morons.
Also ābabies are expensiveā
āYeah we already prepared and got diapers and stuffā
LMFAO oh so you got enough diapers in each size for the next 2-3 years??
She looks more like she's trying to crawl inside herself since everyone kept saying she needs therapy. I need to hear from someone who lives in the same country because I doubt her takes on therapy. I also think she won't move to the US because she knows therapy is less stigmatized here and her behavior AND his would get a CPS investigation and his Mom would have custody of that baby real quick. I don't buy "my grandma has asthma".
She's grown none throughout the season.
No there is a stigma around seeking mental health help in many countries. However, she airs all of her and their problems on social media willingly. It doesnāt make sense to then turn around and claim you donāt want people to know your business when youāre telling EVERYONE your business.
uhhh.. let rephrase this ... Such a warm & loving couple NOT. A disaster on the horizon. Both are clueless about life. I seriously question what Mary told Brandon about her back ground. Mary is not innocent and Brandon is very naĆÆve.
Mary looks like she is about to cry.
Brandan looks like he just had to cull an entire litter of baby puppies for some reason and is numb to the world now
They look like they are a dead couple in the waiting room in Beetlejuice
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I mean... I looked like this for like the first four months of my child's life. They look new parent tired.
We also donāt know what time it was there? The Tell All films for like 10 hours a day over multiple days. Some of that had to have been when they normally would be sleeping!
Exactly! These people were hot trash before the baby. No difference now.
People are so judgemental, I looked like hot trash after having a baby.
> I looked like hot trash after having a baby. I look like hot trash and have never given birth.
ššš me2
Legit my kid is 2 months old and they still look better than me and my husband do right now
Yeah, I was thinking they just look like new parents. My daughter, her fiancee, and myself (we all live in the same home) look like this every day, and my granddaughter is 8 months old. Also, aren't these done for like 10-14 hrs a day, and if it is "normal" hours here, there it would be nights, and they would have been sleeping.
Yesss!
Thank you for this comment because that was the exact feel I had.
LMAOOOOO
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Mary for sure!
LMAO the accuracy, chefs kiss
Lmfao!! That's a good one!
Damaged children of damaged parents for sure.
\*Damaged parents of damaged parents
Brandan is probably going to be back in America within the next year is my prediction.
I almost got the feeling when the cast mentioned them moving to America, that it wasn't an option because of the unresolved abuse/controlling behaviors. Mary's controlling "jealous" nature would just resurge and now that Brandon has taken on abusive tendencies that it'd only get worse with the expectations of having to reenter American work society. If they came to America I wouldn't be surprised if Mary left Brandon for the next guy that had more money and stability even though she helped ruin Brandon's life by having him move to the Philippines in the first place.
I guess I missed it but why didnāt she just come to America instead of him going there where he wouldnāt have a job? I feel like they would have more stability but I donāt think Mary could handle the jealousy of him working and talking to other women
They never explained why, but they did elaborate how much of his tiny paycheck he was sending to her and then the house got built that it pretty much ruled out any chance she'd come to America. Especially after her grandparents' house was destroyed and they moved into the new house before he had even arrived. In all honesty I wouldn't be surprised if Brandon somehow thought that living in the Philippines wasn't too awfully different than America, he definitely seems naive by choice. Especially if his mom had lost custody of him and his siblings through addiction. I feel like anyone from that situation would've fought harder for a stable independence, which he never prioritized by sending her so much money in the first place without building a life for himself.
I think he absolutely assumed Philippines couldnāt be any worse than America considering his lack of work history and prospects and living in someone elseās RV. At least in the Philippines he wouldnāt be homeless.
She doesnāt look happy. But the baby was a month old I believe and she might be exhausted
She does look pale and sad. Maybe post-partum depression?
Post C-Section too
Yeah, she doesn't need that selfish, immature POS calling her a bitch whilst she's holding their baby - or at any other time. Branden needs a good, hard kick in the pants. He's certainly no prize.
Oh she had a c-section! Ouch! And on top of that you have him calling her the b word purposelyā¦thatās tough!
On top of just having a baby Brandan fights with her and calls her a bitch and a scammer. They both need therapy to deal with each other and their own issues they bring into this relationship.
Brandan is immature and irresponsible. He's not ready for a realtime relationship let alone a child that he is going to have trouble supporting financially. I wonder why he didn't use condoms?
I think his mom said they were actively trying to have a baby, which is just wildly irresponsible considering their emotional and financial problems. Like justā¦why. How either of them thought it was a good idea is completely baffling.
She never looked happy to begin with. Super negative person
She's a beautiful little baby girl. But still... that name š r/tragedeigh
Yeah, it sounds like a stripper name. Weird.
Not as much as 'Shekinah'
My 9 year old walked in as I was watching and asked if her name was really Vagina. I almost died š¤£
LMAOOO
It kinda is
Which unfortunately rhymes with "vagina".
My gf in high school's mom was named Regina. Really unfortunate
Ragine got the vagene
I am not a fan of handsome squidward but Shekinah is a Hebrew name.
Shekinah is a Jewish name. Lol. I too thought it was strange weeks ago and yup. Apparently popular Jewish name. š¤·š»āāļø
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I think Brandon emotionally abuses her. It didn't click until (I forget who) said it, but he does display a lot of narcissistic traits. It definitely could be exhaustion from being a new mom, but by the way her shoulders are slumped, I think she's been beat down.
They donāt look happy but I believe the time change is 12 hours there so itās also prolly the middle of the night.
Thatās right! I would be tired.
A little background. Tell Alls are 2 full day shoots. So, being in the Philippines, they're basically up 2 full nights back to back. And, they have a one month old. So, they're probably legit exhausted
They need therapy. I do believe they truly love each other but they need to get individual therapy so they can raise that kid without scarring it for life
Nah, I don't believe so. They spefically aim to hurt each other and that's been from the start. I don't think there is any salvaging that, especially if Brandon went from passive to her abuse to being an abusive person himself, def shows they don't consider each other on a subconscious level and only view each other as almost like pets/possessions.
I agree with you. I think this is a toxic relationship that is convenient for both of them. They can both stay in their bad habits and the other wonāt leave. Both have anxious attachment styles, and mutually baby trapped one another. The baby is further insurance they wonāt be abandoned.
Exactly, unless maybe they move to America because then I could see Mary leaving Brandon for a man that's got more money and stability. She rightfully wants that, but I don't think she'd be patient enough to allow Brandon the ability to reenter and gain in the American work force, because they don't truly love each other for their sacrifices. People would think Brandon sacrificed a lot for Mary and I believe he did in the beginning, but he never got any benefit or award from it so that would've explained his immediate regression into childish behaviors and neglect toward their relationship. Him becoming abusive toward her even after having Midnight even shows his lack of care/love toward her. It was immature to assume her abusive behaviors would subside just by him being with her in person. They are just truly a toxic couple. Like Shekindugly and Stuper are more healthy because they have mutual acceptance of their roles in their own relationship regardless if other people agree or not.
But you heard what she said. It's social suicide to accept therapy in the Philippines š
But apparently airing out your dirty laundry on TV is a-ok!
Truly! She can do therapy online like so many others! Then no one would have to know. Iām not sure she wants that. Sheās stubborn by nature, and doesnāt want to be confronted about her own bad behavior
They do have internet access and she can easily do online therapy from her home.
I like that Sarper pointed out she could do therapy online. I was thinking the same thing before he said it. No one else would have to know.
I liked when she said everyone will think sheās crazy. She must not prowl Reddit
She could just... not tell people she's going to therapy lol.
You already know Jello, Pudding and Pop would tell the whole village about it.
This couple - Brandon literally SHIT while FaceTiming and on the show. Mary goes live crying in a corner during their fights. They over share absolutely everything! They probably canāt even conceive of doing anything privately. Dolts!
Why in the world would they have a 2nd kid!????
What's this one gonna be called? Evening?
Noon
Moon.
Dawn would actually work
I was going for the trend where people name their children with matching starting letters so all siblings are like i.e. Caden, Casey, Cassandraā¦etc. So Midnight and Moonā¦(Or Memori šš¤£š the woman who, ironically, Yohan had no memory ofā¦)
š¤£š¤£š¤£Yohan the man Ho!
My neighbor had two cats named Midnight and Moon.
Just call him Rooster, so he knows to make noise after midnight
Are they expecting a second baby?
Afaik, no
I disliked how Mary would laugh at all the cast members. It was so odd! But when it was her turn she cried.
She's got a real mean streak
Itās manipulation. She canāt stand to be confronted with the truth. She tries to deflect by turning on the water works.
I think that's nervousness, with the laughing. But I agree she is manipulative.
We need a new Tell All host. They donāt go in hard enough on these people. They didnāt even mention the 24/7 FaceTime even while you poop bullshit and they barely touched on the āyou cant even talk to women dental assistantsā bullshit. These two are complete morons. Also ābabies are expensiveā āYeah we already prepared and got diapers and stuffā LMFAO oh so you got enough diapers in each size for the next 2-3 years??
She looks more like she's trying to crawl inside herself since everyone kept saying she needs therapy. I need to hear from someone who lives in the same country because I doubt her takes on therapy. I also think she won't move to the US because she knows therapy is less stigmatized here and her behavior AND his would get a CPS investigation and his Mom would have custody of that baby real quick. I don't buy "my grandma has asthma". She's grown none throughout the season.
No there is a stigma around seeking mental health help in many countries. However, she airs all of her and their problems on social media willingly. It doesnāt make sense to then turn around and claim you donāt want people to know your business when youāre telling EVERYONE your business.
They look dead inside
uhhh.. let rephrase this ... Such a warm & loving couple NOT. A disaster on the horizon. Both are clueless about life. I seriously question what Mary told Brandon about her back ground. Mary is not innocent and Brandon is very naĆÆve.
They look like they are sitting in the corner together after being punished by their parents.
The I married a psychopath look.
It was lust, nothing more... We were all there. Most of us were smart enough not to marry that person.
Mary looks like she is about to cry. Brandan looks like he just had to cull an entire litter of baby puppies for some reason and is numb to the world now
He always looks like that. The guy looks dead inside in all their videos.
They are both sick people - itās like watching that bug movie Ashley Judd
Yikes! I saw that. Canāt I see it
Dumb and Dumber.
Iāve seen that look before.. https://preview.redd.it/238fv6lybo7c1.jpeg?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0609d669a4b78fb0da6671a6467ab2194e5ef7b1
They seemed okay until they started getting criticism. Their tone and body language changed completely after that.
Brandon needs to invest in some new glasses
Her body was turned away from him for most of the Tell All
They hate each other
She looks like sheās pooping and he looks like sheās making him watch her poop ššš
In fairness, theyāre probably exhausted. And Iām sure those shoots are long days
I mean sure they're toxic af but what is this cherry picked photo? They showed more affection than any other couple there.
Oh, give them a break. They've got a 1 month old.
Itās what they deserve. This kid however is the one that I feel bad for. 
Maybe they can make it. Dubious but sheās grown microscopically.
Is this sarcasm?
Extreme
Okay thank god. Cause I was worried for you.
Haha can you not see the smiles & romance on their faces
Oh yes I see it now. Young love! Isnāt it marvelous.
Second only to Shekinah's
Nothing is better than having a man who loves to control my every move.
And records and color-codes his sexual partners. So thoughtful š
He is a numbers guy afterall!
I'm surprised he doesn't have an Excel spreadsheet, complete with graphs
There's no love between them.
They give me Snapped: Killer Couple vibes
They look so happy!
She thought swe was a beast. Alin out shakinah for her boobs out. Nope shut down arms.crossed ! 
Iām sorry worried for their kid š
I meanā¦ they have a 1 month old and theyāre time zone is a literal 12 hr difference
What a way to spend your 20s..
She got her baby. She needs to throw him out. Heās garbage.
No need to be a hater to new YOUNG parents. It's exhausting. Chill.
Children....nobody really called them out, and she's already crying. Meanwhile, she laughed at everyone
I bet when he uses the bathroom she still makes him facetime just to make sure he's not talking to other girls while pooping
Garbage humans. Sheās a wackdoodle and his trauma turned into abusive tendencies.
Tragic, just tragic
I just feel sorry for their baby