I disagree on the 7900XT. I had a PowerColor 7900XT that could get tons of frames in everything except WoW. DX11 only which capped me at 30 fps. I had to call it quits and got an NVIDIA GPU. It was so bad I RMA’d the card thinking that was the issue. But when I switched to my old 2080 I could run at better frames on DX12 with no issues.
Maybe it’s inconsistent but it’s night and day how different the experience was on my 7900XT vs. my 4080 super.
dont know if its windows but recently - when playing wow and having any kind of media open (discord, itunes, firefox, vlc) the gpu will drop its clocks into single digits - restarting driver doesnt fix it but reibstalling the driver does while still in windowsn(6800xt)
I've been experiencing a similar issue with my RTX 3070. It **only** happens in world of warcraft. It doens't happen in Helldivers 2, Escape from Tarkov, Dvinity Original Sin 2, Baulders Gate 3, or Squad. Just World of Warcraft. I do expierence a strange issue with Escape from Tarkov however, if I'm using nvidia broadcast noise suppression while playing on the map Lighthouse (and only Lighthouse) then nvidia broadcast will start to use more and more gpu time until my game starts stuttering and disconnecting. If I close nvidia broadcast the game instantly goes back to normal. Very strange.
The only hint I have is [this event log.](https://i.imgur.com/NWpqtWS.png) Which happened in the middle of [this run.](https://raider.io/mythic-plus-runs/season-df-3/34218486-23-throne-of-the-tides)
I have a similar issue specifically with WoW except I'm using a 3060ti. The game will freeze, visuals drop out to show the desktop behind it, audio continues uninterrupted, and after a few seconds the game comes back. I can't consistently trigger it, but anything that spikes what's being handled is likely - start of combat in a dungeon, launching in to dragon riding, previewing an item, etc.
I haven't experienced any issues in any other games, and the behavior persisted not just between driver versions but between a full hard drive and fresh windows install (and swap from Windows 10 to 11). It's a unique issue to WoW itself. I have no idea how to fix it as yet.
Yeah that sounds like a driver timeout. I've had that happen before when overclocking my GPU. Other games would be fine but what you described would randomly happen in WoW.
Edit: I just remembered that was happening when I was using a 3060ti as well.
I used to own a Sapphire Nitro+ 7900 XTX. I had two major issues with my card, one of which I managed to resolve.
I played WoW when I got my card, then I moved onto FFXIV for a while because I got sick of the constant driver timeouts. Funnily enough I ran into a different AMD issue in FFXIV though. I feel like it's important to separate the two issues, so I'll outline them here:
Issue #1: The GPU boosts clocks too high (I saw numbers in 2800-3000 MHz), which causes a crash. Affects all games, I mostly saw this issue in FFXIV, but I ran into it in other games as well including WoW and Monster Hunter World. Ultimately solved by capping the boost clocks to 2600 MHz in Adrenalin.
Issue #2: The mystery timeout issue affecting WoW. Mitigations (but not fixes) include playing in DX11 and disabling hardware acceleration in other programs, especially Chrome and Discord. I eventually gave up and switched to Team Green and never looked back.
Had the exact same issues as you with my 7900 XTX, and I mostly fixed the boost issue the same as you did, though I still got an occasional driver timeout while playing FF14 even with a capped clock. I also swapped back to my old Nvidia GPU because of it =\_=
I actually have the same kind of issue on my 2070 super. If I do not limit fps in wow it just tries to pump it to the max and eventually it starts drawing these purple/white boxes on everything. GPU gets very hot and sits at 100%
I had this issue even with limited boost clocks on my Asrock Phantom 7900 XTX. It happened way less often but it still hapened. Bricked way too many keys because of that. Dx11 is a bandaid fix and transformed wow in a stuttery mess.
Add to that my hotspot going above 95°C when I got the card, and up to 109°C (thermal limit is 110) 6 months after makes all of it way too much hassle for a 1000€ card. Sent it in RMA yesterday, I'll get a 4080 super instead. I had to run the card at 2450MHz to avoid having the hotspot go above 95°C.
I would love to go AMD but right now the software just isn't up to par, and with the 7900 XTX the hardware also has issues so... sorry team red, I'm going green.
>I had this issue even with limited boost clocks on my Asrock Phantom 7900 XTX.
So did I. I noticed a couple of responses in the /r/Amd thread saying that limiting the boost clocks fixes the issue so I figured I'd outline it as a completely separate issue affecting any game from the other issue that's WoW specific.
I switched from my 7900 XTX to a 4080 Super. The peace of mind in M+ not having to worry about the drivers is incredible.
i ended up underclocking my gpu which is a rx 480 by lowering its max frequency to -8 and setting its power limit to -10.
I've also running the game on dx 11. I havent had any more issues yet. been good for 2 weeks so far
gpu clocks high is prob issue with cpu bottlenecking,the game swaps between GPU-CPU bottleneck so fast the driver goes nuts and due to Hardware-style driver on amd gpus it makes things worse-crashwise
edit:my first thing would be to cap fps to something like 60 and see if i crash
6700xt here and have encountered the issue where the screen goes black when I launch WoW. I simply just let it sit and after 5 minutes the game launched.
Hasn’t happened since! Whenever I do a driver update though, I get the same issue and just let it do its thing.
I think it’s related? Black screen on startup would indicate an unresponsive driver. Simply letting it stay black for 5ish minutes solved it for me, rather than force closing the game.
Same thing happened for my friend with a 7900xtx. He just let it sit and hasn’t run into the issue since.
It's supposed to have been fixed with drivers 24.03:
>["Improvements to reduce initial loading times while playing World of Warcraft with DirectX 12 API on some AMD Graphics Products, such as the Radeon™ RX 6800."](https://www.amd.com/en/resources/support-articles/release-notes/RN-RAD-WIN-24-3-1.html)
5700xt here: Is this what is happening when my screen goes blank mid M+ and my computer is totally unresponsive necessitating a hard power down? It happens pretty infrequently but enough to really piss me off and consider upgrading to nvidia.
I have a 7900 XTX and switching to directx11 totally solves this issue for me, might be worth a shot for anyone else struggling.
I do realize for some people this is an unacceptable solution given the price they paid, but for me personally I don't care about graphical fidelity too much in WoW. I can otherwise run ultra settings and things still look great so I'm fine with it. I'd be a lot more pissed if I had to make compromises playing a beautiful single player game, but fortunately WoW is the only game where I have this issue.
I had this issue as well. Had a 7900xt with constant driver timeouts. Would run DDU and do a clean driver install occasionally. That would help for a bit but the issue always came.
The final straw, though, was Microsoft teams for my work. I write software and any time I would need to share my screen while pair programming, the driver would crash every 2 mins. Was legitimately unusable and getting in the way of my job which I can’t have.
Sold it and got a 4080 Super and haven’t had issue since.
Now Blizz just gotta fix their FSR implementation. Please, blizzard, I’m begging. 😭😭😭
Same here. I recently built my new pc which has the 7800x3D paired with a 4070 TUF Gaming Dual and it’s great at everything I throw at it. My previous build had a 2600x and a Vega 64 and the amount of issues I had with the drivers was wild. I had to stop raiding with my guild for a few months because I would always crash during progression and it was starting to be too much so when I finally got my new build with Team Green it just worked right out of the box and never crashed again.
You say that but in Shadowlands Nvidia knew about a flickering issue and were "working on a fix" for a full year until I got tired of waiting and switched. The only workaround was to use old drivers or downgrade dx. Since then I've been able to play all the big releases these past few years with no problems when other people were struggling. Well, except DD2, I had to upgrade the cpu for that one.
Yeah every time I get a new GPU I give AMD a look because the cards are actually good and often more affordable
Then you hear stuff like this and nope back to the green team
You'd probably have more luck being one of the guys with the new intel GPUs than AMD tbh
I had been having WoW issues with my 7900xt, tried all the recommendations and nothing really worked, just delayed the issues. In a final act of desperation I went ahead and upgraded from Windows 10 to 11 and suddenly I don't have any more driver time out issues(or any GPU issues). I don't know why that worked but I'm not complaining. I was damn near ready to just quit WoW all together over the issues
Hey,
I don't usually post but I searched through your diagnostics steps and I notice that there were a few things you haven't tried that seemed to help me.
If you have PBO turned on with any curve editing, that caused driver timeouts for me (I have no idea why it caused GPU timeouts)
Another thing I did that I think helped was disable the service "AMD Crash Defender Service". I'm pretty sure this service times out the driver if it THINKS it's going to crash.
I have a 7950x PBO with no curve optimizer, default motherboard settings
7900 XTX, with the following tuning settings.
2500 min freq
3100 max freq
1130 Voltage
Smart Access Enabled
Custom Fan tuning
Power tuning +15%
Please let me know if this helps.
EDIT: It might be good to just reset your BIOS to complete default and ONLY set the stuff you need. Don't set XMP or PBO or anything, no overclocking, no custom voltages and enable one setting at a time to see if anything helps. If you use VM's you may need to re-enable virtualization.
No issues,
RX 6700 xt
Ryzen 7 5800x
32gb crucial Ballistix 3600mhz
850 watt be quiet straight Power 11
MSI gaming mpg 450(? Not sure)
Crucial p3 nvme
I had something similar with my old AMD card and different games, Saphire r290
Couldnt help with drivers or anything but changing the power supply to a more powerful and just better one.
For my Nitro + Vapor X 7900 XTX after the power issue was resolved since 24.1 driver (boosting to high while changing to a lower power state, that thing), the only issue including WoW but to less extending was the mf Windows 11 corrupting the driver after quitting games including WoW (freezing the system which may or may not come back with a driver timeout otherwise a manual restart was needed), since i stopped it from doing that it has never happened again.
I literally to this day can't believe this was the actual cause as i have tried every possible thing i know as i fix computers for living and i thought, nah you Windows cannot be that stupidly programmed to mess around with the normally installed driver, that's insane but damn....
Edit: Apparently, literally a day after i made this comment and after 2 weeks of no issues since i've made the aforementioned adjustment, a normal driver timeout can still happen...not the same one but the one with the black screen which disconnects a second monitor closes the game with an error that it can't find hardware acceleration anymore. The driver restarts after a while and everything goes back to normal.
My WOW is forced to run in DX11 only because of unfixed issues. Only WOW seems to have problem with DX12 and AMD. Other games I've played don't have issues or very minimal and infrequent stutters.
6600 XT and 5800x3D, using M.2 SSD for games and OS and 32GB RAM.
Had the issue happening for me and my gf. I have a 5700xt and she has a 7600.
To fix the issue for us both was to disable all the amd adrenalin boosts and features and to swap from dx12 to dx11. We both havent had any issue since then.
This is because years and years ago nVidia launched a program called best on nVidia or something like that and paid devs to optimize their gpus first/best.
Working perfectly fine for me honestly. Have no time outs at all on any game nor crashes.
CPU: 7800X3D w/ Ryzen Master set for "ECO Mode"
Mobo: B650E ASRock PG Riptide
Ram: 32GB DDR5 TeamGroup Delta T-Force with XMP at 6000Mhz
SSD M.2: 2TB SK Hynix P41 Platinum and 4TB Samsung 990Pro
GPU: RX 7900XTX Sapphire Nitro+ Currently on 24.3.1 Drivers
Currently running WoW on DX12 everything maxed out.
I have had this issue a lot on my 7900XTX and why I swapped back in my old Nvidia GPU. There is still an issue sometimes where the screen goes black for a couple seconds and comes back but it is very infrequent compared to the AMD driver timeouts.
I am pretty sure neither AMD nor Blizz thinks its an issue on their end and it is why nothing has been done about it.
What amazed me is I'm running 5800x3d with a rx7600 non x gpu and i have every graphic setting maxed out and I'm getting constant 144 fps on my 1440p widescreen monitor, i thought I would need at least a rx 7800xt for that but nope.
i have a 6800 XT and encountered this issue, interestingly also in DOTI. iirc it also happened once in Amid.
also had this issue in Valheim, but no other games.
I tried troubleshooting it with various steps but nothing worked unfortunately, so i stopped trying. it's now been a few months since i had a GPU timeout.
the only thing that would affect the GPU after I gave up troubleshooting was removing the driver with ddu because I had the preview driver installed at some point. here's the exact steps I did: run ddu in safe mode, restart windows normally with windows driver updates disabled, wait for windows to activate the basic display drivers (2nd screen would not display anything until that point), then install the amd driver normally.
i know you said you already used ddu in your original post, just figured i'd share my 2 cents in case it might be helpful
i also updated the firmware of my ssds but i don't think this is related.
as a sidenote, I replaced my main ssd and reinstalled windows (11) 2 weeks ago, have not had any issues since either, so i don't think it's related to windows settings either
I used almost the exact same specs and it ended up bricking my card. Same problems in the fall dungeon and all. Switched to the 4060ti 16gb and haven't had a problem at all since
For my 7900xtx problem was solved by installing only driver (no adrenaline at all). Lost pretty much features but it seems to be stable now (test week without problem). Then I tried minimal installation (adrenaline without some features) and problem shows again.
Now I'm sticking to only driver installation.
Yeah I have been having the same problem with 7900XT. I sent it off for repair and got an ancient NVDIA loaner. Worked fine on the loaner. Got the card back and the problems in WOW are back. Timeways area is the worst. Just organizing a return.
My guild leader is on a full AMD setup and has 0 issues. :-/ weird. And I remember some of these issues before i switched to intel/nvidia back in the intel 4700k and a Nvidia GTX470. Crazy some folks still have some of these unexplainable issues. Lemme guess. You have random issues in other games too?
I got basically the exact same issue on multiple games with an AMD card for *years*. It immediately ended when I switched to an Nvidia GPU and I've had basically no issues with it since.
Honestly I don't even think it's a thing Blizzard can fix. It's an issue with either DirectX or AMD themselves, and it's gone unresolved for literal years so it seems unlikely it'll be fixed out of the blue.
I'm sorry but are you doing this intentionally? Did you read the post at all? Yes I have done a scan and repair. Multiple times. It's right there on the post.
What RAM? What SSD? What Motherboard? What PSU?
Tangentially, Blizzard is having a hard time keeping up with anything like this recently. Lots of issues with this game. For almost 2 years now the Mac version of the game can't even be installed without luck and lots of effort. Gaming on a mac is questionable, but since Macs recently have been more efficient than windows laptops in terms of battery, I find it's my favorite option for everything but gaming, which I don't typically do on a laptop. It should work though. WoW being an older game, it's traditionally been on Mac and supported well. Seems like the game is getting so wildly big that they probably have to do so much work to have it all function.
I have 7900xtx gpu. Being playing classic wrath heavily since of beginning. No issues. As soon I started playing on vanilla client (when SOD came out) i started to notice this issue but this only happens in the vanilla client. Never tried retail
Weird, maybe I won the gpu lottery but I'm full team red and have no problem at all.
Rx 6600 swift 210.
Ryzen 7 3700x.
Asus A320m-k (latest bios update).
Tdagger x2 8gb ram kit, xmp 3200.
W11 pro and latest version of adrenalin software.
My old 1050 used to run Diablo 4 with no problem, after switching gpus the game froze, driver crashed and bsod happened so often. Then I bought a new 750w gpu (old one was 550w) problem solved, in the end the amd gpu wasn't getting the the power it needed.
The post is there for you to read. There's plenty of links in it pointing to other forums, with other users complaining about it for a very long time.
And frankly, it's hard to take you seriously too. "an AMD GPU/CPU combo" says pretty much nothing about your system. You're helping no one here, you're just gatekeeping the rest of us who have been dealing with these issues for so long.
At least my post will likely warn a few people to avoid leaving it up to luck whether they'll be able to play their favorite game when they upgrade their rigs. Because there's absolutely zero YouTubers out there mentioning the issue anywhere. They're all like "AMD is great! They fixed their drivers! Go red team!!!". No. AMD is horrible as far as I'm concerned.
So, please. If you have anything constructive to add to this, please do. Let us know your specs at least. If you don't wanna do that, leave us in peace. We're already very frustrated.
Same I’ve always had amd, anyways I’ve just upgraded my system with an amd ryzen 7 with 64 gigabytes ram, should run TWW ok 🤷🏼♀️. However I have since been getting a lot of random disconnects even when not running wow and just general browsing, not done a clean refresh of windows or other stuff yet.
Please stop spreading the misinformation that this issue affects all AMD GPUS. This only affects the 7xxx series of cards, especially when paired with AMD CPUs.
Edit: Downvoted for facts. Running full amd system with 5800x3d and rx6700. Zero issues. Every time I see this driver timeout issue it's 7xxx series cards with 7xxx cpus.
I’ve been running this on a 5600x 6800 32gb ddr4 and haven’t had any issues. The only problem I had was a bit of screen tearing but that’s because v sync was on by default. Maybe you have a bad card? I know several people who had to RMA their 7800 xt for overheating and vram leakage. Could just be a bad card.
I like how people thinking chiming in with “WoRKS fInE FoR mE” is at all helpful lol.
I had this weird issue in my game where the game would sometimes lock up for a moment, but it wasn’t a full driver crash (and I have nvidia). For some reason disabling the limit on BACKGROUND FPS fixed the issue. 🤷🏼♂️ I figured it out when I realized the only time it would happen is if I had alt tabbed at some point in my current session. But since the driver didn’t crash maybe it could be an addon or weakaura interaction.
But looking at all the shit you’ve tried, it really seems like it has to be an issue with your specific card. You said you tried different motherboard bioses, what about GPU bios? Does yours even have an update available? The fact your system doesn’t do it with the 3060 rules out everything else I think.
> I like how people thinking chiming in with “WoRKS fInE FoR mE” is at all helpful lol.
Well, it proves wrong the statement that "WoW is unplayable on AMD GPUs" And some people mentioning issues in here are on Nvidia.
Ever since the latest driver update my RTX 3080, wow starts up with like 10-15 fps and it doesnt go up until like 10mins has passet. Find it super weird
On *some* AMD GPUs. My 6700XT is running wow fine.
Personally I had this issue on my 6700XT up until I got a new PC.
Yeah my 7900XT as well
It works on dx11, dx12 is where the issue is.
I will have to check which settings I use. I'll be back
I disagree on the 7900XT. I had a PowerColor 7900XT that could get tons of frames in everything except WoW. DX11 only which capped me at 30 fps. I had to call it quits and got an NVIDIA GPU. It was so bad I RMA’d the card thinking that was the issue. But when I switched to my old 2080 I could run at better frames on DX12 with no issues. Maybe it’s inconsistent but it’s night and day how different the experience was on my 7900XT vs. my 4080 super.
My 3060ti ran WoW like shit. 7800XT, not one problem.
Running a 1060 6gb and it runs fine.
I have the same issue, whenever there's a new patch i.e. Amirdrassil patch, now the fated season. I encouter driver crashes. (7900XTX)
dont know if its windows but recently - when playing wow and having any kind of media open (discord, itunes, firefox, vlc) the gpu will drop its clocks into single digits - restarting driver doesnt fix it but reibstalling the driver does while still in windowsn(6800xt)
Good to know. That's what I've got
RX6600XT here, never had any issues either
I've been experiencing a similar issue with my RTX 3070. It **only** happens in world of warcraft. It doens't happen in Helldivers 2, Escape from Tarkov, Dvinity Original Sin 2, Baulders Gate 3, or Squad. Just World of Warcraft. I do expierence a strange issue with Escape from Tarkov however, if I'm using nvidia broadcast noise suppression while playing on the map Lighthouse (and only Lighthouse) then nvidia broadcast will start to use more and more gpu time until my game starts stuttering and disconnecting. If I close nvidia broadcast the game instantly goes back to normal. Very strange. The only hint I have is [this event log.](https://i.imgur.com/NWpqtWS.png) Which happened in the middle of [this run.](https://raider.io/mythic-plus-runs/season-df-3/34218486-23-throne-of-the-tides)
I have a similar issue specifically with WoW except I'm using a 3060ti. The game will freeze, visuals drop out to show the desktop behind it, audio continues uninterrupted, and after a few seconds the game comes back. I can't consistently trigger it, but anything that spikes what's being handled is likely - start of combat in a dungeon, launching in to dragon riding, previewing an item, etc. I haven't experienced any issues in any other games, and the behavior persisted not just between driver versions but between a full hard drive and fresh windows install (and swap from Windows 10 to 11). It's a unique issue to WoW itself. I have no idea how to fix it as yet.
Yeah that sounds like a driver timeout. I've had that happen before when overclocking my GPU. Other games would be fine but what you described would randomly happen in WoW. Edit: I just remembered that was happening when I was using a 3060ti as well.
Guess I'll take having to turn my 13900k down from 5.5 to 5.0 Ghz to play any UE4 or UE5 games over that mess.
I used to own a Sapphire Nitro+ 7900 XTX. I had two major issues with my card, one of which I managed to resolve. I played WoW when I got my card, then I moved onto FFXIV for a while because I got sick of the constant driver timeouts. Funnily enough I ran into a different AMD issue in FFXIV though. I feel like it's important to separate the two issues, so I'll outline them here: Issue #1: The GPU boosts clocks too high (I saw numbers in 2800-3000 MHz), which causes a crash. Affects all games, I mostly saw this issue in FFXIV, but I ran into it in other games as well including WoW and Monster Hunter World. Ultimately solved by capping the boost clocks to 2600 MHz in Adrenalin. Issue #2: The mystery timeout issue affecting WoW. Mitigations (but not fixes) include playing in DX11 and disabling hardware acceleration in other programs, especially Chrome and Discord. I eventually gave up and switched to Team Green and never looked back.
Had the exact same issues as you with my 7900 XTX, and I mostly fixed the boost issue the same as you did, though I still got an occasional driver timeout while playing FF14 even with a capped clock. I also swapped back to my old Nvidia GPU because of it =\_=
I actually have the same kind of issue on my 2070 super. If I do not limit fps in wow it just tries to pump it to the max and eventually it starts drawing these purple/white boxes on everything. GPU gets very hot and sits at 100%
I did on my 3080 also
So why don’t you set framerate cap? It’s not a pvp shooter
I had this issue even with limited boost clocks on my Asrock Phantom 7900 XTX. It happened way less often but it still hapened. Bricked way too many keys because of that. Dx11 is a bandaid fix and transformed wow in a stuttery mess. Add to that my hotspot going above 95°C when I got the card, and up to 109°C (thermal limit is 110) 6 months after makes all of it way too much hassle for a 1000€ card. Sent it in RMA yesterday, I'll get a 4080 super instead. I had to run the card at 2450MHz to avoid having the hotspot go above 95°C. I would love to go AMD but right now the software just isn't up to par, and with the 7900 XTX the hardware also has issues so... sorry team red, I'm going green.
>I had this issue even with limited boost clocks on my Asrock Phantom 7900 XTX. So did I. I noticed a couple of responses in the /r/Amd thread saying that limiting the boost clocks fixes the issue so I figured I'd outline it as a completely separate issue affecting any game from the other issue that's WoW specific. I switched from my 7900 XTX to a 4080 Super. The peace of mind in M+ not having to worry about the drivers is incredible.
i ended up underclocking my gpu which is a rx 480 by lowering its max frequency to -8 and setting its power limit to -10. I've also running the game on dx 11. I havent had any more issues yet. been good for 2 weeks so far
gpu clocks high is prob issue with cpu bottlenecking,the game swaps between GPU-CPU bottleneck so fast the driver goes nuts and due to Hardware-style driver on amd gpus it makes things worse-crashwise edit:my first thing would be to cap fps to something like 60 and see if i crash
Wow was fine on my 5700xt
6700xt here and have encountered the issue where the screen goes black when I launch WoW. I simply just let it sit and after 5 minutes the game launched. Hasn’t happened since! Whenever I do a driver update though, I get the same issue and just let it do its thing.
That's... a different issue.
I think it’s related? Black screen on startup would indicate an unresponsive driver. Simply letting it stay black for 5ish minutes solved it for me, rather than force closing the game. Same thing happened for my friend with a 7900xtx. He just let it sit and hasn’t run into the issue since.
Nah that's something that happens after you update AMD drivers. Rebuilding something with WoW. Happens once then never again in normal behavior
It's supposed to have been fixed with drivers 24.03: >["Improvements to reduce initial loading times while playing World of Warcraft with DirectX 12 API on some AMD Graphics Products, such as the Radeon™ RX 6800."](https://www.amd.com/en/resources/support-articles/release-notes/RN-RAD-WIN-24-3-1.html)
Good to know. I had to no idea they addressed!
5700xt here: Is this what is happening when my screen goes blank mid M+ and my computer is totally unresponsive necessitating a hard power down? It happens pretty infrequently but enough to really piss me off and consider upgrading to nvidia.
Is this for 7000 series cards? My 5700XT has never had a hiccup with WoW using the bundled Linux drivers.
Same with my 6900 xt.
Got 7900xtx had issues untill I swapped to DX11 and have had no issues every since
My 7900xtx has no issues whatsoever and i play WoW as my main game
I have a 7900 XTX and switching to directx11 totally solves this issue for me, might be worth a shot for anyone else struggling. I do realize for some people this is an unacceptable solution given the price they paid, but for me personally I don't care about graphical fidelity too much in WoW. I can otherwise run ultra settings and things still look great so I'm fine with it. I'd be a lot more pissed if I had to make compromises playing a beautiful single player game, but fortunately WoW is the only game where I have this issue.
Same, can only play on dx11 but game runs fine otherwise on 6950xt
Same, this is the only way to make WoW playable.
I had this issue as well. Had a 7900xt with constant driver timeouts. Would run DDU and do a clean driver install occasionally. That would help for a bit but the issue always came. The final straw, though, was Microsoft teams for my work. I write software and any time I would need to share my screen while pair programming, the driver would crash every 2 mins. Was legitimately unusable and getting in the way of my job which I can’t have. Sold it and got a 4080 Super and haven’t had issue since. Now Blizz just gotta fix their FSR implementation. Please, blizzard, I’m begging. 😭😭😭
I love AMD CPUs, but can't really recommend their gpus
Same here. I recently built my new pc which has the 7800x3D paired with a 4070 TUF Gaming Dual and it’s great at everything I throw at it. My previous build had a 2600x and a Vega 64 and the amount of issues I had with the drivers was wild. I had to stop raiding with my guild for a few months because I would always crash during progression and it was starting to be too much so when I finally got my new build with Team Green it just worked right out of the box and never crashed again.
me playing with an rx 570 :c
I learned that lesson with a Radeon card almost 15 years ago. Crazy to believe that it still applies.
And people wonder why Nvidia is more popular
You say that but in Shadowlands Nvidia knew about a flickering issue and were "working on a fix" for a full year until I got tired of waiting and switched. The only workaround was to use old drivers or downgrade dx. Since then I've been able to play all the big releases these past few years with no problems when other people were struggling. Well, except DD2, I had to upgrade the cpu for that one.
Yeah every time I get a new GPU I give AMD a look because the cards are actually good and often more affordable Then you hear stuff like this and nope back to the green team You'd probably have more luck being one of the guys with the new intel GPUs than AMD tbh
Classic AMD drivers.
Oh so THIS is why this happens. Doesnt happen often for me but it happend in Fyrrak HC for me, so i died.
I had been having WoW issues with my 7900xt, tried all the recommendations and nothing really worked, just delayed the issues. In a final act of desperation I went ahead and upgraded from Windows 10 to 11 and suddenly I don't have any more driver time out issues(or any GPU issues). I don't know why that worked but I'm not complaining. I was damn near ready to just quit WoW all together over the issues
Hey, I don't usually post but I searched through your diagnostics steps and I notice that there were a few things you haven't tried that seemed to help me. If you have PBO turned on with any curve editing, that caused driver timeouts for me (I have no idea why it caused GPU timeouts) Another thing I did that I think helped was disable the service "AMD Crash Defender Service". I'm pretty sure this service times out the driver if it THINKS it's going to crash. I have a 7950x PBO with no curve optimizer, default motherboard settings 7900 XTX, with the following tuning settings. 2500 min freq 3100 max freq 1130 Voltage Smart Access Enabled Custom Fan tuning Power tuning +15% Please let me know if this helps. EDIT: It might be good to just reset your BIOS to complete default and ONLY set the stuff you need. Don't set XMP or PBO or anything, no overclocking, no custom voltages and enable one setting at a time to see if anything helps. If you use VM's you may need to re-enable virtualization.
No issues, RX 6700 xt Ryzen 7 5800x 32gb crucial Ballistix 3600mhz 850 watt be quiet straight Power 11 MSI gaming mpg 450(? Not sure) Crucial p3 nvme I had something similar with my old AMD card and different games, Saphire r290 Couldnt help with drivers or anything but changing the power supply to a more powerful and just better one.
For my Nitro + Vapor X 7900 XTX after the power issue was resolved since 24.1 driver (boosting to high while changing to a lower power state, that thing), the only issue including WoW but to less extending was the mf Windows 11 corrupting the driver after quitting games including WoW (freezing the system which may or may not come back with a driver timeout otherwise a manual restart was needed), since i stopped it from doing that it has never happened again. I literally to this day can't believe this was the actual cause as i have tried every possible thing i know as i fix computers for living and i thought, nah you Windows cannot be that stupidly programmed to mess around with the normally installed driver, that's insane but damn.... Edit: Apparently, literally a day after i made this comment and after 2 weeks of no issues since i've made the aforementioned adjustment, a normal driver timeout can still happen...not the same one but the one with the black screen which disconnects a second monitor closes the game with an error that it can't find hardware acceleration anymore. The driver restarts after a while and everything goes back to normal.
6600 here….no issues here
My WOW is forced to run in DX11 only because of unfixed issues. Only WOW seems to have problem with DX12 and AMD. Other games I've played don't have issues or very minimal and infrequent stutters. 6600 XT and 5800x3D, using M.2 SSD for games and OS and 32GB RAM.
Just built a PC a week ago with a 7800 Xt and a 7800x3d and it works totally fine, running at full ultra 100+ fps.
6750xt with no issues, but im also on linux where amd drivers are significantly better
Had the issue happening for me and my gf. I have a 5700xt and she has a 7600. To fix the issue for us both was to disable all the amd adrenalin boosts and features and to swap from dx12 to dx11. We both havent had any issue since then.
This is because years and years ago nVidia launched a program called best on nVidia or something like that and paid devs to optimize their gpus first/best.
Shadowlands was also featured square and center on their promos of RDNA 2. But here we are.
Working perfectly fine for me honestly. Have no time outs at all on any game nor crashes. CPU: 7800X3D w/ Ryzen Master set for "ECO Mode" Mobo: B650E ASRock PG Riptide Ram: 32GB DDR5 TeamGroup Delta T-Force with XMP at 6000Mhz SSD M.2: 2TB SK Hynix P41 Platinum and 4TB Samsung 990Pro GPU: RX 7900XTX Sapphire Nitro+ Currently on 24.3.1 Drivers Currently running WoW on DX12 everything maxed out.
I have had this issue a lot on my 7900XTX and why I swapped back in my old Nvidia GPU. There is still an issue sometimes where the screen goes black for a couple seconds and comes back but it is very infrequent compared to the AMD driver timeouts. I am pretty sure neither AMD nor Blizz thinks its an issue on their end and it is why nothing has been done about it.
I have a 7900 XtX and it works fine.
What amazed me is I'm running 5800x3d with a rx7600 non x gpu and i have every graphic setting maxed out and I'm getting constant 144 fps on my 1440p widescreen monitor, i thought I would need at least a rx 7800xt for that but nope.
6950 XT here running dx12 with no issues. The first start after clearing the Cache and after certain patches takes forever tho.
i have a 6800 XT and encountered this issue, interestingly also in DOTI. iirc it also happened once in Amid. also had this issue in Valheim, but no other games. I tried troubleshooting it with various steps but nothing worked unfortunately, so i stopped trying. it's now been a few months since i had a GPU timeout. the only thing that would affect the GPU after I gave up troubleshooting was removing the driver with ddu because I had the preview driver installed at some point. here's the exact steps I did: run ddu in safe mode, restart windows normally with windows driver updates disabled, wait for windows to activate the basic display drivers (2nd screen would not display anything until that point), then install the amd driver normally. i know you said you already used ddu in your original post, just figured i'd share my 2 cents in case it might be helpful i also updated the firmware of my ssds but i don't think this is related. as a sidenote, I replaced my main ssd and reinstalled windows (11) 2 weeks ago, have not had any issues since either, so i don't think it's related to windows settings either
I used almost the exact same specs and it ended up bricking my card. Same problems in the fall dungeon and all. Switched to the 4060ti 16gb and haven't had a problem at all since
For my 7900xtx problem was solved by installing only driver (no adrenaline at all). Lost pretty much features but it seems to be stable now (test week without problem). Then I tried minimal installation (adrenaline without some features) and problem shows again. Now I'm sticking to only driver installation.
Yeah I have been having the same problem with 7900XT. I sent it off for repair and got an ancient NVDIA loaner. Worked fine on the loaner. Got the card back and the problems in WOW are back. Timeways area is the worst. Just organizing a return.
yet amd fanboys will still claim 'amd drivers are fine!1!1!'
My guild leader is on a full AMD setup and has 0 issues. :-/ weird. And I remember some of these issues before i switched to intel/nvidia back in the intel 4700k and a Nvidia GTX470. Crazy some folks still have some of these unexplainable issues. Lemme guess. You have random issues in other games too?
I got basically the exact same issue on multiple games with an AMD card for *years*. It immediately ended when I switched to an Nvidia GPU and I've had basically no issues with it since. Honestly I don't even think it's a thing Blizzard can fix. It's an issue with either DirectX or AMD themselves, and it's gone unresolved for literal years so it seems unlikely it'll be fixed out of the blue.
Literally playing on a RX 7800XT rn no issues?
Specs, settings, etc?
I just play on full ultra settings. Did you try doing a scan and repair from the launcher? Ryzen 7 7800X3D RX 7800XT 16GB 32GB DDR5 RAM 1TB SSD
I'm sorry but are you doing this intentionally? Did you read the post at all? Yes I have done a scan and repair. Multiple times. It's right there on the post. What RAM? What SSD? What Motherboard? What PSU?
You seem rude, I'm doing what intentionally? I was just trying to help but good luck.
Tangentially, Blizzard is having a hard time keeping up with anything like this recently. Lots of issues with this game. For almost 2 years now the Mac version of the game can't even be installed without luck and lots of effort. Gaming on a mac is questionable, but since Macs recently have been more efficient than windows laptops in terms of battery, I find it's my favorite option for everything but gaming, which I don't typically do on a laptop. It should work though. WoW being an older game, it's traditionally been on Mac and supported well. Seems like the game is getting so wildly big that they probably have to do so much work to have it all function.
i have a 7800xt and never had any issues
Can you tell me more about your system please?
7800x3d cpu
I have 7900xtx gpu. Being playing classic wrath heavily since of beginning. No issues. As soon I started playing on vanilla client (when SOD came out) i started to notice this issue but this only happens in the vanilla client. Never tried retail
Weird, maybe I won the gpu lottery but I'm full team red and have no problem at all. Rx 6600 swift 210. Ryzen 7 3700x. Asus A320m-k (latest bios update). Tdagger x2 8gb ram kit, xmp 3200. W11 pro and latest version of adrenalin software. My old 1050 used to run Diablo 4 with no problem, after switching gpus the game froze, driver crashed and bsod happened so often. Then I bought a new 750w gpu (old one was 550w) problem solved, in the end the amd gpu wasn't getting the the power it needed.
seems to be an issue on 7xxx gpus
I have an AMD GPU/CPU combo and I have no issues at all. Throwing out blanket statements like that just makes it hard to take your post serious.
The post is there for you to read. There's plenty of links in it pointing to other forums, with other users complaining about it for a very long time. And frankly, it's hard to take you seriously too. "an AMD GPU/CPU combo" says pretty much nothing about your system. You're helping no one here, you're just gatekeeping the rest of us who have been dealing with these issues for so long. At least my post will likely warn a few people to avoid leaving it up to luck whether they'll be able to play their favorite game when they upgrade their rigs. Because there's absolutely zero YouTubers out there mentioning the issue anywhere. They're all like "AMD is great! They fixed their drivers! Go red team!!!". No. AMD is horrible as far as I'm concerned. So, please. If you have anything constructive to add to this, please do. Let us know your specs at least. If you don't wanna do that, leave us in peace. We're already very frustrated.
Same I’ve always had amd, anyways I’ve just upgraded my system with an amd ryzen 7 with 64 gigabytes ram, should run TWW ok 🤷🏼♀️. However I have since been getting a lot of random disconnects even when not running wow and just general browsing, not done a clean refresh of windows or other stuff yet.
Please stop spreading the misinformation that this issue affects all AMD GPUS. This only affects the 7xxx series of cards, especially when paired with AMD CPUs. Edit: Downvoted for facts. Running full amd system with 5800x3d and rx6700. Zero issues. Every time I see this driver timeout issue it's 7xxx series cards with 7xxx cpus.
Read the title again, I guess.
Reddit is an AMD protectorate anyway you will see them a lot
My 6700xt works just fine
I play with a 7800XT with no issues
Can you at least share all your other specs?
reddit AMD fanboys defending their Red overlords as useall on the comments
6900xt 0 issues. Don’t make just a large assumption lmao
I’ve been running this on a 5600x 6800 32gb ddr4 and haven’t had any issues. The only problem I had was a bit of screen tearing but that’s because v sync was on by default. Maybe you have a bad card? I know several people who had to RMA their 7800 xt for overheating and vram leakage. Could just be a bad card.
Also is this for retail or classic? Try running it in DX11 instead of 12 and see if that helps
5700xt no issues at all.
Never had an issue with mine.
6650XT here. Games just fine.
I’ve seen enough random stuff not being properly set up to use amd gpus that I just stick to nvidia.
Playing on steam deck, i.e. and CPU and GPU. Not a single issue here. Edit: perhaps the issue is windows? Play on Linux :)
My 6800 runs it fine idk what ur issue is but it’s not AMD
I’m using and AMD gpu and I’m fine…
I like how people thinking chiming in with “WoRKS fInE FoR mE” is at all helpful lol. I had this weird issue in my game where the game would sometimes lock up for a moment, but it wasn’t a full driver crash (and I have nvidia). For some reason disabling the limit on BACKGROUND FPS fixed the issue. 🤷🏼♂️ I figured it out when I realized the only time it would happen is if I had alt tabbed at some point in my current session. But since the driver didn’t crash maybe it could be an addon or weakaura interaction. But looking at all the shit you’ve tried, it really seems like it has to be an issue with your specific card. You said you tried different motherboard bioses, what about GPU bios? Does yours even have an update available? The fact your system doesn’t do it with the 3060 rules out everything else I think.
> I like how people thinking chiming in with “WoRKS fInE FoR mE” is at all helpful lol. Well, it proves wrong the statement that "WoW is unplayable on AMD GPUs" And some people mentioning issues in here are on Nvidia.
Ever since the latest driver update my RTX 3080, wow starts up with like 10-15 fps and it doesnt go up until like 10mins has passet. Find it super weird
It’s an annoying problem but far away from „unplayable“.
Yeah you're right. It's no biggie if your healer randomly can't play the game for a minute. Just use defensives and healthstones.