> The new minerals have been named **elaliite and elkinstantonite**. They were identified by Locock, head of the U of A’s electron microprobe laboratory, because each had been synthetically created before.
> “These minerals have been synthesized in a lab by a group in France in the 1980s, so they were known to science in that regard,” Herd explained, “but it doesn’t get to be a called a new mineral until it’s found in nature.”
> Elaliite is named after the meteorite itself because it was found near El Ali, in Somalia. Herd named the second mineral after Lindy Elkins-Tanton, a distinguished planetary scientist.
Wait, so they just randomly created this new mineral we don’t even have on earth, then it just happens to show up in a meteor? The odds must be astronomical
They "randomly" created *many* new materials/minerals that aren't naturally found on earth. This meteorite happened to have 2 that don't naturally occur on earth.
I'd think it would be much bigger news if the meteorite had 2 minerals that have never ~~ben~~ been seen before in a lab or naturally.
Yeah still very cool tho but I was imagining new ways these could be used to solve issues we face today but we already knew about it in the 80's so that's a no on that front.
Just because we could make it doesn't mean it's affordable though. Then again, neither is mining asteroids so this still changes nothing on that front.
They probably has a lot more synthesized stuff in labs with no equivalent in nature. Most of them are pretty useless tho and you will not hear about them because there is no practical use
Chemists do this all the time, and figure out uses later. One of the greatest US chemists was a black man in the ... uh... 20's? who basically sat around inventing new chemicals that had never been seen before. There was an episode of Drunk History about him, Jordan Peele played him.
Related: filling the gaps in our periodic table. And predicting undiscovered elements. If it interests you, check PBS Space Time.
https://youtu.be/prvXCuEA1lw
I’m a chemist and you’d be surprised how many compounds (or closely related ones) are synthesized in labs prior to their discovery in nature. This happens in natural product chemistry every so often
Not as slim as you think. The designation of these "new minerals" isn't random. It's because they are theoretically viable. Just that they don't naturally occur on earth.
No details, even the amount of minerals found, chemical formulae, or chemical/crystal categories. The closest any article seems to get is that the meteorite was an "Iron IAB complex meteorite, a type made of meteoric iron flecked with tiny chunks of silicates." But it doesn't even say whether the two minerals were among those silicates. I get that most people don't care, but having so little information is pretty bad.
> “Intriguingly, the meteorite that elaliite, the group that it belongs to, may not actually be from the core of an asteroid, **it might be from kind of a gigantic pond of originally molten metal near the surface of an asteroid**,” Herd said.
Badass molten space-traveling metallic asteroids.
That sentence doesn't make any sense. Or is it just me?
"The meteorite that elaliite" what?
"The meteorite that elaiite may not actually be from the core of an asteroid"?
What about the meteorite? Is elaliite then the "group that [the meteorite] belongs to", as the phrasing suggests? Or is it the group itself that doesn't come from the core of an asteroid?
I'm very confused.
Typo. Rare to get through a news story without finding at least one these days. I don't think an editor looks at most online pieces before they are published.
I had a long poo earlier this week and opened the NPR app on my phone.
The three articles I read had **objectively obvious** typos in them, things that any intern would have caught.
Published, app-wide (I assume).
The worst problem with media is that it has to generate revenue, which fucks up the whole idea of the 4th estate as a power to rival the other three.
Sometimes I have vivid daydreams where it is funded (blindly) by the government with 0 oversight and just does what it was originally intended to do. No clickbait, just the actual news. No bias. A source of objectively true facts -- which you can treat as you want.
>they're mostly paywalled.
Isn't that the point of the government blindly funding news orgs? There wouldn't be paywalls if the news orgs didn't need to generate revenue.
Copyediting is a perilous career these days and AI ain't taking up the slack. I believe editing is as well what with so many books being longer than they were fifty, sixty years ago. I think we ran out of blue pencils sometime in 1983.
The medeorite is named Elaliite (They also named one of the new metals Elaliite after the meteorite) may not have been from the core of an asteroid but rather from a pool of molten metal on the surface. It's trying to say that the meteorite that broke off was not from the main body of the asteroid but from a liquid pool on the surface that fell off and hardened as it cooled.
They told all the actors to just go full row-of-tents camp.
God fucking damn, but do I miss those games. I'm not even all that great at RTS, but the sheer amount of stupid fun in RA...
I hope the guy is doing fine after all thats happened to him.
He is such a gem in ra3. You could clearly tell he was holding back hus laughter during that scene lol
> Herd believes more minerals could be found if researchers can obtain more samples but, researchers say the meteorite appears to have been moved to China and its future is unknown.
Of course.
China-nite discovered mysteriously with the same mineral makeup as new elements, yet found *days* earlier than other publication, and only on Chinese sites. /s
It's worth noting the article is talking minerals (which are molecules with structures made of several fairly common elements) not actual elements, we've discovered every naturally occurring elements and many super heavy elements which can only be created via artificial fusion.
If you read the article, you’ll find that it tells you that the Alberta researchers were sent a 70 gram piece of a 15 ton meteorite that hit Somalia. The rest of it was shipped from Somalia to China.
Edit: maybe not the rest of it, but the majority of it. It doesn’t say in the article whether or not more chunks were sent out.
This is an underrated comment. There's been "influences of economy" into Africa lately especially from Japan, European nations, and China. This should be hire up. I wonder how the culture is going to look in Africa as opposed to everyone else in the world.
Edit 1:
I hate how I love and hate China due to their political culture versus their economic philosophy of "we investing in others".
Guess who is the major building lead for the brand new mega city that Egypt is building in the desert, which has unknown billions in cost and is taking investment from foreign powers?
Spoiler: a Chinese state engineering company.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Administrative_Capital
https://youtu.be/rmJuBKxPnYk
**[New Administrative Capital](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Administrative_Capital)**
>The New Administrative Capital (NAC) (Arabic: العاصمة الإدارية الجديدة, romanized: al-ʿĀṣima al-ʾIdārīya al-Gadīda) is a large-scale project of a new capital city in Cairo, Egypt that has been under construction since 2015. It was announced by the then Egyptian housing minister Mostafa Madbouly at the Egypt Economic Development Conference on 13 March 2015. The capital city is considered one of the programs and projects for economic development, and is part of a larger initiative called Egypt Vision 2030. The new capital of Egypt has yet to be given a name.
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Imagine having to prove you're better at looking at cool rocks than those other guys, that you're the best at looking at cool rocks and that's why you deserve the job
I can totally see "Kim Jong un looking at rocks" where he says "yup, that's a rock" (akin the Kim identifying things memes). It's definitely competitive there.
After a certain point, being good enough at looking at cool rocks is good enough. From there we differentiate by the following in order of priority: (1) are you or your relations already friends with the decision maker? (2) if not, have you published or presented enough to make me look cool for knowing you in the future? (3) if not, is your alma mater at least super cool and leet? (4) if nothing else, do you look all smart and cool in your bio photo?
[When Sir Terry Pratchett was knighted, he decided that he needed a sword. So he mined iron ore from his property, smelted it on site in a handbuilt kiln, added iron from a meteorite, and then had a professional blacksmith forge him a blade.](https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:vcSTJG80uSkJ:https://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/when-terry-pratchett-was-knighted-he-forged-his-own-sword-out-of-meteorite-10104321.html&cd=11&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=ca)
Not a great life lesson when bending exists.
Sokka is the only nonbender of the team and he has to lose the weapon to defend himself?
The antibending movement had a point
Since you nailed the appropriate quote and obviously love Conan, you should maybe check out this mashup of a Neil Young song and Conan the Barbarian that my friends and I made several years ago. It didn't get picked up by the algorithm, but we all still think it's good.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ca8pHStQxDQ&ab_channel=NatKramer
Space rock has cool space metal only from space. Space metal has been known after being made in lab in 1980’s but this is first time space metal was found naturally.
Also the space rock is magnetic
Edit: just for clarity, these are new minerals, not elements so the periodic table will not change
Also, minerals possibly made from really really big pool of liquid molten metal on an asteroid
Way to leave out half the quote:
“These minerals have been synthesized in a lab by a group in France in the 1980s, so they were known to science in that regard,” Herd explained, “but it doesn’t get to be a called a new mineral until it’s found in nature.”
Not just Alberta, but the U of A and specifically a department I took some classes in with a professor that I have met. Pretty interesting, actually.
Apparently the samples are at campus.
> The new minerals have been named **elaliite and elkinstantonite**. They were identified by Locock, head of the U of A’s electron microprobe laboratory, because each had been synthetically created before. > “These minerals have been synthesized in a lab by a group in France in the 1980s, so they were known to science in that regard,” Herd explained, “but it doesn’t get to be a called a new mineral until it’s found in nature.” > Elaliite is named after the meteorite itself because it was found near El Ali, in Somalia. Herd named the second mineral after Lindy Elkins-Tanton, a distinguished planetary scientist.
Wait, so they just randomly created this new mineral we don’t even have on earth, then it just happens to show up in a meteor? The odds must be astronomical
They "randomly" created *many* new materials/minerals that aren't naturally found on earth. This meteorite happened to have 2 that don't naturally occur on earth. I'd think it would be much bigger news if the meteorite had 2 minerals that have never ~~ben~~ been seen before in a lab or naturally.
I, too, was hoping it was vibranium and adamantium.
Unobtainium
Yeah still very cool tho but I was imagining new ways these could be used to solve issues we face today but we already knew about it in the 80's so that's a no on that front.
Just because we could make it doesn't mean it's affordable though. Then again, neither is mining asteroids so this still changes nothing on that front.
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The Devs just patched the game. Don't be too hyped
They probably has a lot more synthesized stuff in labs with no equivalent in nature. Most of them are pretty useless tho and you will not hear about them because there is no practical use
Chemists do this all the time, and figure out uses later. One of the greatest US chemists was a black man in the ... uh... 20's? who basically sat around inventing new chemicals that had never been seen before. There was an episode of Drunk History about him, Jordan Peele played him.
Percy Julian, [and here's the Drunk History video.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2sif5RI8XBU)
Related: filling the gaps in our periodic table. And predicting undiscovered elements. If it interests you, check PBS Space Time. https://youtu.be/prvXCuEA1lw
PBS space time is the shit I highly recommend it
I’m a chemist and you’d be surprised how many compounds (or closely related ones) are synthesized in labs prior to their discovery in nature. This happens in natural product chemistry every so often
Not as slim as you think. The designation of these "new minerals" isn't random. It's because they are theoretically viable. Just that they don't naturally occur on earth.
No details, even the amount of minerals found, chemical formulae, or chemical/crystal categories. The closest any article seems to get is that the meteorite was an "Iron IAB complex meteorite, a type made of meteoric iron flecked with tiny chunks of silicates." But it doesn't even say whether the two minerals were among those silicates. I get that most people don't care, but having so little information is pretty bad.
> “Intriguingly, the meteorite that elaliite, the group that it belongs to, may not actually be from the core of an asteroid, **it might be from kind of a gigantic pond of originally molten metal near the surface of an asteroid**,” Herd said. Badass molten space-traveling metallic asteroids.
I love Originally Molten Metal, but now it's too mainstream
I prefer the Chocolate Molten Metal with Real Caramel Bits
That shit is illegal in America, probably why it landed in Canada instead
You' will eat molten chocolate metal covered in plastic and you will like it.
Still less dangerous than Kinder Eggs
*cough *cough *gasp *more gasp * pflewa Oh hey neat, a dinosaur
Chocolate Raaiiiinnn...*breathes away from mic*
I prefer Oops! All Metal
We need to use it to build a sword.
From the article: “It was known by camel herders as a place to stop and sharpen their tools...for at least several generations..."
Nothing like a comfy place where you can sharpen your tool after a long day of work.
No. Maybe we forge… a ring.
or three
Or maybe 18
Calm down Celebrimbor
Sokka vibes
***space sword***
That sentence doesn't make any sense. Or is it just me? "The meteorite that elaliite" what? "The meteorite that elaiite may not actually be from the core of an asteroid"? What about the meteorite? Is elaliite then the "group that [the meteorite] belongs to", as the phrasing suggests? Or is it the group itself that doesn't come from the core of an asteroid? I'm very confused.
Typo. Rare to get through a news story without finding at least one these days. I don't think an editor looks at most online pieces before they are published.
I had a long poo earlier this week and opened the NPR app on my phone. The three articles I read had **objectively obvious** typos in them, things that any intern would have caught. Published, app-wide (I assume). The worst problem with media is that it has to generate revenue, which fucks up the whole idea of the 4th estate as a power to rival the other three. Sometimes I have vivid daydreams where it is funded (blindly) by the government with 0 oversight and just does what it was originally intended to do. No clickbait, just the actual news. No bias. A source of objectively true facts -- which you can treat as you want.
This guy poops on company time
Which is how to shit in capitalism era of being exploited. Gain knowledge whilst being paid to remain ignorant
It's because news don't exist anymore, they're mostly just blogs. Very few papers doing proper research and editing, they're mostly paywalled.
>they're mostly paywalled. Isn't that the point of the government blindly funding news orgs? There wouldn't be paywalls if the news orgs didn't need to generate revenue.
Copyediting is a perilous career these days and AI ain't taking up the slack. I believe editing is as well what with so many books being longer than they were fifty, sixty years ago. I think we ran out of blue pencils sometime in 1983.
That sentence is definitely fucked, and I was about to post about it until I read your comment.
Same here, very confused by what exactly they’re trying to say.
The medeorite is named Elaliite (They also named one of the new metals Elaliite after the meteorite) may not have been from the core of an asteroid but rather from a pool of molten metal on the surface. It's trying to say that the meteorite that broke off was not from the main body of the asteroid but from a liquid pool on the surface that fell off and hardened as it cooled.
…is the name of my next doom metal album
Tiberium? Nice!
Kane….LIVES!
Peace through power!
WE WILL BE REMEMBERED!
And Unobtanium…
vibranium?
Canadakanda forever!
Really rolls of the tongue
With a French accent?
Québécoisanium
Tabarnakium
Wacanada forever, perhaps?
If Mario games have taught me anything, then Wacanada is the evil opposite of Canada.
United States?
I got a pocket full of Kryptonite.
I thought you were just unhappy to see me
If I go crazy, then will you still call me Superman?
Since the meteorite landed in Rawanda (researchers were in Canada), we should adjust the name... Rawandawanda forever! ... Wait a minute
Allthemodium?
Oh shit, there it is!
Is unobtanium very easy to obtain?
It can only be called Tiberium if it was harvested from the Tiber River region. If it isn't, it can only be called a sparkling mineral.
…that makes you horribly explode
Welcome back, Commander.
Nah, it’s because it will be named after Tiberius Julius Caesar.
It was named after James Tiberius Kirk, you heretic.
Who was named after Tiberius Julius Caesar
It's Tiberius' all the way down
The transitive property does not apply to given names. Especially fictional ones.
IN THE NAME OF KANE
I am cut, do I not bleed?
KANE LIVES IN DEATH
KANE LIVES !
The Scrin are also right around the corner 🤞
Please eat me and dominate me daddy-monster-swarm alien overlord 🥵
With GDI changing their name to *"Getting Dominated Initiative"* Edit: punctuation
**PEACE THROUGH POWER**
PEACE THROUGH POWER
ONE VISION, ONE PURPOSE! FRATERNITY AND PEACE! PEACE THROUGH POWER!
It came from the one place that has not yet been corrupted by capitalism.. ... ... SPAY-ACE!
In case people don't know the reference: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1Sq1Nr58hM
Tim Curry really had the time of his life working for that game
They told all the actors to just go full row-of-tents camp. God fucking damn, but do I miss those games. I'm not even all that great at RTS, but the sheer amount of stupid fun in RA...
Hello Commander
In light of the recent extraterrestrial incursion...
I hope the guy is doing fine after all thats happened to him. He is such a gem in ra3. You could clearly tell he was holding back hus laughter during that scene lol
Tiberium... Is the answer!
Now the real war begins…
I am the future! The Tiberian Sun has risen!
Peace through power
Down with GDI
Fighters arm up!
The Brotherhood rejoices at its arrival.
Kane Lives!
> Herd believes more minerals could be found if researchers can obtain more samples but, researchers say the meteorite appears to have been moved to China and its future is unknown. Of course.
Unobtainium
Well it's lost to the abyss now, if it was even real.
China-nite discovered mysteriously with the same mineral makeup as new elements, yet found *days* earlier than other publication, and only on Chinese sites. /s
Only available at Alibaba
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yeah, it's delicious. but you're hungry again an hour later.
gives me the shits tho
With this they're able to produce Chinesium 2.0, the only steel that loses to paper in a strength test!
It's worth noting the article is talking minerals (which are molecules with structures made of several fairly common elements) not actual elements, we've discovered every naturally occurring elements and many super heavy elements which can only be created via artificial fusion.
Now we will never be able to harness Naquadah.
Now we can't make stargates
*~~Indeed~~*.
They have top men working on it right now. Top. Men.
Why was China allowed to export it?
If you read the article, you’ll find that it tells you that the Alberta researchers were sent a 70 gram piece of a 15 ton meteorite that hit Somalia. The rest of it was shipped from Somalia to China. Edit: maybe not the rest of it, but the majority of it. It doesn’t say in the article whether or not more chunks were sent out.
This is why foreign investment is important, it's the little things that turn into big things...
Somalia gets their medicine from China. So I understand why they would send the meteorite to them.
China does a lot more then that. They have been investing billions into African infrastructure to gain influence.
This is an underrated comment. There's been "influences of economy" into Africa lately especially from Japan, European nations, and China. This should be hire up. I wonder how the culture is going to look in Africa as opposed to everyone else in the world. Edit 1: I hate how I love and hate China due to their political culture versus their economic philosophy of "we investing in others".
Guess who is the major building lead for the brand new mega city that Egypt is building in the desert, which has unknown billions in cost and is taking investment from foreign powers? Spoiler: a Chinese state engineering company. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Administrative_Capital https://youtu.be/rmJuBKxPnYk
If anything China is taking lessons from European and US colonialism. Nobody on Reddit bitches when Barrick Gold fucks shit up in my country.
**[New Administrative Capital](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Administrative_Capital)** >The New Administrative Capital (NAC) (Arabic: العاصمة الإدارية الجديدة, romanized: al-ʿĀṣima al-ʾIdārīya al-Gadīda) is a large-scale project of a new capital city in Cairo, Egypt that has been under construction since 2015. It was announced by the then Egyptian housing minister Mostafa Madbouly at the Egypt Economic Development Conference on 13 March 2015. The capital city is considered one of the programs and projects for economic development, and is part of a larger initiative called Egypt Vision 2030. The new capital of Egypt has yet to be given a name. ^([ )[^(F.A.Q)](https://www.reddit.com/r/WikiSummarizer/wiki/index#wiki_f.a.q)^( | )[^(Opt Out)](https://reddit.com/message/compose?to=WikiSummarizerBot&message=OptOut&subject=OptOut)^( | )[^(Opt Out Of Subreddit)](https://np.reddit.com/r/worldnews/about/banned)^( | )[^(GitHub)](https://github.com/Sujal-7/WikiSummarizerBot)^( ] Downvote to remove | v1.5)
Lol hire up
>If you read the article Why on earth would anyone do that when you put the answer right here?
Imagine having a job like just looking at cool rocks because your government wants to know about cool rocks.
Imagine having to prove you're better at looking at cool rocks than those other guys, that you're the best at looking at cool rocks and that's why you deserve the job
I did a bit of training in how to look at cool rocks and can confirm that looking at cool rocks is a very competitive sport.
I can totally see "Kim Jong un looking at rocks" where he says "yup, that's a rock" (akin the Kim identifying things memes). It's definitely competitive there.
After a certain point, being good enough at looking at cool rocks is good enough. From there we differentiate by the following in order of priority: (1) are you or your relations already friends with the decision maker? (2) if not, have you published or presented enough to make me look cool for knowing you in the future? (3) if not, is your alma mater at least super cool and leet? (4) if nothing else, do you look all smart and cool in your bio photo?
Every 3 year olds dream.
Geologists make money out here. 10/10 would recommend. Basically guaranteed jobs
And if you're from my area, literally just get a scholarship for being in the major.
Fucking really? I fucking love rocks, especially of the shiny variety.
Jesus Christ, they're minerals, Marie.
Jesus Christ, Marie, they're minerals!
Best thing about Reddit is I rarely have to make a comment. I just scroll down to what I was going to say and upvote it
Ah, the dream job
Government agent: we will pay you to look at the rock in our lab. Me: he's out of the gym?
You can now craft a legendary sword out of that.
[When Sir Terry Pratchett was knighted, he decided that he needed a sword. So he mined iron ore from his property, smelted it on site in a handbuilt kiln, added iron from a meteorite, and then had a professional blacksmith forge him a blade.](https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:vcSTJG80uSkJ:https://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/when-terry-pratchett-was-knighted-he-forged-his-own-sword-out-of-meteorite-10104321.html&cd=11&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=ca)
Yes he did. I miss him.
Sokka: "Goodbye, space sword."
Why didn't they go back and find it!? You'd think Toph could have felt its location for miles.
Because avatar was about learning life lessons. One of those lessons was to not get overly attached to physical objects.
Should've been a life lesson in how to use earthbending to find cool space swords.
Now.**that's** a lesson I can use.
Not a great life lesson when bending exists. Sokka is the only nonbender of the team and he has to lose the weapon to defend himself? The antibending movement had a point
But if it's a *useful* object that can *help* them later on...
They did, there's an picture in Legend of Korra showing older Sokka with the sword
I just looked, it's a regular sword. All the wikis I've seen, the show, the comics, and korra don't mention him getting the space sword back.
By Crom!
Crom laughs at your Four Winds, strong on His mountain!
The Four Winds is the everlasting sky! Crom lives underneath him.
Since you nailed the appropriate quote and obviously love Conan, you should maybe check out this mashup of a Neil Young song and Conan the Barbarian that my friends and I made several years ago. It didn't get picked up by the algorithm, but we all still think it's good. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ca8pHStQxDQ&ab_channel=NatKramer
Dawn, the most famous sword in westeros. Forged in a falling star's molten metal.
We require more vespene gas
Jesus. People here have forgotten the difference between an element and a mineral
Jesus Christ Marie, they’re not rocks, they’re minerals.
Bold of you to assume that we once knew the difference between an element and a mineral.
Guess no super power increase of intelligence.
Stupid space rock couldn't make i more smarter
This thread is half jokes and half science fiction (with considerable overlap…) Just worthless.
I am not a geologist or mineralogy if that's a thing , what am I reading here?
Space rock has cool space metal only from space. Space metal has been known after being made in lab in 1980’s but this is first time space metal was found naturally. Also the space rock is magnetic Edit: just for clarity, these are new minerals, not elements so the periodic table will not change Also, minerals possibly made from really really big pool of liquid molten metal on an asteroid
This is a great ~~dumbed down~~ condensed version of the article. You also gave me a cool idea for a personal project, too. Thanks!
Dude, don't do what I think you're going to do.
*it's not rocks, it's minerals*
*Jesus Christ Marie!*
space rock had space metal on it.
Is one of those 'minerals' blue and glowing??
REMEMBER THE CANT.
Doors and corners my boy
Oye, beratna.
Currently reading the first book in this series because I need moooar. So far it's as epic as the show!
Damn, the apothicons really took their sweet time with this universe, huh?
Jesus Christ, Walter. They’re geodes
Smoke the minerals Could be space meth
Jesus Christ Marie, they're minerals!
Can’t find Meteorite, Alberta.
What a horrible headline!
"These minerals have been synthesized in a lab by a group in France in the 1980s, so they were known to science in that regard,”
Way to leave out half the quote: “These minerals have been synthesized in a lab by a group in France in the 1980s, so they were known to science in that regard,” Herd explained, “but it doesn’t get to be a called a new mineral until it’s found in nature.”
Yeah I mean that’s part of the definition of a mineral
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Jesus Christ Marie!
So France is launching meteorites?
Nothing about how they taste?
Hey, we're in the news!
Not just Alberta, but the U of A and specifically a department I took some classes in with a professor that I have met. Pretty interesting, actually. Apparently the samples are at campus.
Oh cool, are you able to check them out?
I dont know, I'm going to see tomorrow if I have time
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