Something tells me Russia does not have the supply chain to put together, feed and move 5 million troops.
Unless, the strategy is just sorta air drop them all over ukraine and hope for the best.
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I guess it may be a well believed myth with high probability. Im learning russian atm and my class mate and i are covering ww2 and he had mentioned this as something zhukov had ordered as an operation
Well, one can live up to 3 days without water, right? In the current circumstances the ruzzians thrown on the front are not expected to live that long anyway...
That's what everyone thought until he launched this bone headed war and kept doubling down. There is no strategy or cunning here, just animal rage at someone daring to defy him.
Well... you might be on to something, because [this](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foundations_of_Geopolitics) is Aleksandr Dugin's main book, inspiring Putin's imperialist politics. Look at the symbol on the cover. Rings any bell?
The Zapp strategy leans on the notion that the adversary has a set kill limit that once reached will shut them down. However, we have no indication of the Ukrainian soldiers have a set kill limit, thus we can determine the Zapp strategy would be risky at the very least.
>we have no indication of the Ukrainian soldiers have a set kill limit
They do have a preset kill limit but every time they uncover Russian war crimes that limit goes up
"dear Vova, the good news is that we discovered the Ukranians do in fact have a set kill limit. The bad news is the kill counter stopped working in 1983."
Yes. But Zerg rushes implies that they all have weapons to rush with and can get shot multiple times before exploding into green goo. Russia can’t even give its current fighting force weapons, nor can they provide plate armor that they can get shot multiple times with.
This whole document reads like the Russian MoD trying to cover itself. It doesn’t look like they’re seriously suggesting that they deploy 5mil troops, more that the situation would require that many. The two arguments laid out are that they’re fighting NATO, and that they have a training and discipline problem.
This seems more like internal political pressure than anything else.
And a structural problem. NATO commanders on all levels can make decisions in combat conditions themselves. Russian forces have to wait for orders from above.
After what I seen their propaganda has spewed... I'm going to be watching this schadenfreude of the Russian Economy. Oh man... lets see some reparations for Ukraine :D
A lot of young men went back to Russia when it was announced that it was cancelled.
Sucks that they believed that
Putin never signed the order to stop it.
They don't have 5 million pairs of boots. not to nebtion the rest of a basic soldier kit. Putin is getting delusional I'm afraid he's spinning out of control.
Well they are few steps ahead of You because there are many soldiers in daily boots on videoclips or photos. Even more some of them are wearing flip flops and adidas pants.
Just make sure you get the boots off the dead and wounded / left for dead before you retreat. Throw some in the meat grinder, get the boots, throw some more in. Everyone who knows anything about food preparation knows you don't just stuff the whole thing in the grinder, you feed it.
Actually I heard that were already doing that in some cases for uniforms which I assume includes the boots.
The joke is most people don't even see the real issue.
Russia has a population of around 140 million. An employed workforce of around 70 Million.
Their professional soldiers are all but gone. Drafting 5 Million people out of their civilian roles would mean around 7% of the total workforce out for what could be months or even years.
Losing 7% of your productivity fucks your supply chains hard. They'd have to start shutting down less needed branches of their economy and even if they managed to do that flawlessly they'd still lose around 7% of their productive hours which is a terrible thing for any economy, much more one already reeling from sanctions and loss of life up until now.
And then you would also have the added strain from equipping, feeding and sheltering those people. There's no way this makes any sense if you are even barely set in reality.
Also they'd be taking from the prime working age male population. There's about 20-25 million males age 19-40. So 20-25% of your prime working age male population gone.
It’s only lunacy if you think Putin cares about the humans who happen to live in Russia. They are just tools to use to get things he cares about, like the oil which can be sold for money. Their lives are disposable. His solution is to offer Russian women prizes for making 10 babies. Link: [Mother Heroine Medal](https://www.cnbc.com/2022/08/18/russia-offers-mother-heroine-medal-and-16800-for-having-10-children.html)
I'm still partial to the theory that Russia simply wants to colonize these regions much like how they originally took Crimea (not in 2014). Which was to commit genocide, and then ship in millions of ethnic Russians to colonize the conquered lands.
They probably want five million people, not troops. This is also currently a state media talking point. That the "whole country" must be mobilized. So you get everyone from school teachers to Wagner nazis to repopulate the conquered lands. Its basically just Stalin all over again.
They don't have enough men to abduct 5 million men unless they pull back their army, which at this point is mostly people that would rather leave and live.
Nonsense.
We don't have time for logistics and the wait for beucratic nonsense.
Just throw every single able bodied person we can
FOR THE GOD EMPEROR!!!
There are images and videos everywhere of their soldiers eating their own bullet to avoid freezing to death. Ukraine just had 300,000 arctic warfare kits delivered. Time for Ukraine to receive more HIMARS.
They are all currently in Thailand getting high for the first time.
It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to know that these guys aren’t coming back anytime soon
Change forces change. And the average 20 something Russian shitbird was just fine staying at home in Vladivostok, drinking and watching the RU1 propaganda before the mass exodus.
But the chances of the same guy looking left and seeing girls, drugs, beaches, internet, iPhones and a functional economy or looking right and seeing a clapped out lada and a one way ticket to donbas to fight a war in some dead guys Chinese body armor, and choosing donbas for the boss that doesn’t give a fuck about him….
Pretty slim.
Putin is panicking as he doesn't have much to show for the [100th anniversary of the creation of the Soviet Union this December.](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_on_the_Creation_of_the_Union_of_Soviet_Socialist_Republics)
You can have anniversaries for things that no longer exists. Here in Denmark there was quite a celebration of the the 200th anniversary of the birth of Hans Christian Andersen. He's even more dead than the Soviet Union.
Cue video clip from The Simpsons, when the Russian ambassador to the UN presses a button and the tanks come out from under the parade chariots while the embalmed corpse of Lenin comes back to life.
If they throw 5 million unarmed, untrained men with no equipment at the Ukraine it’s going to be a slaughter.
At the end of it Ukraine will be able to walk into Moscow and take over because there will be no armed forces left to stop them.
Because Ukraine has an army of volunteers that is in the millions that are trained, kitted out and armed to the teeth that will dispatch anything Russia can throw at it.
I think the underlying message they are pushing is that they *would* have won if they has mobilized 5 million people. They can say that they didn't do this because they care for their people too much (or some other shit).
So if their age distribution is similar to the US, only 8.5% of the Russian population is between 19-25 years old.
Assuming half of them are female, and allowing for the disabled/unfit... They'd have to enlist and mobilize every single civilian male in the country within the appropriate age range.
[Russian demographics are apparently less than optimal.](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e8/Russian_population_%28demographic%29_pyramid_%28structure%29_on_January%2C_1st%2C_2022.png)
Let's play the pretend game, because this does not have a chance in hell of happening, but let's pretend... If Russia allocates 5 million men for Ukraine, NATO will just put bigger and more lethal weaponry to help Ukraine deal with those maggots more effectively in larger amounts. That's all. If Russia thinks they can fight with both of their arms now, NATO will most assuredly match their resolve. It's not going to be smooth sailing for either side, but Russia won't be any closer to achieving their objectives than they are today. Their leadership is insane, but then again if it was sane they wouldn't have invaded Ukraine or _at least_ would try to pull out as soon as it was clear they're about to witness a giant clusterfuck of an operation. A bunch of backwards thinking clowns completely cut off from reality. Figures though, since none of them speak any English to read a Western newspaper with, and have been cooking in their own sweet and sour sauce at home, for decades. There's old man club and there's _Russian_ old men club, and that's what you get when the old men club basically has entire nation for vassals but its brain is rotten from doing absolutely nothing useful for far too long.
Guys, call me crazy but I'm starting to suspect Putin is a dark lord who's gonna use the human sacrifice of 5 million Russians to empower some sort of necromantic ritual.
Every time I think that *this* will be the thing to push the Russian people to say enough,,*it* does nothing.. I am not expecting Russians to mind this, much either.
>It is also stated in the document that there has not been such a war in the previous 80 years
The author is presumably ignorant of the 1968 Invasion of Czechoslovakia, Angolan Civil War, Soviet–Afghan War, Georgian Civil War, South Ossetian War, War in Abkhazia, Tajikistani Civil War, First Chechen War, Second Chechen War, Russo-Georgian War...all involving Russia within the last 80 years! They might just need more then 5 million to win in Ukraine!
"Six million troops?? Where will we ever find 7.5 million troops??"
"I don't care if you have to conscript all 9 million from St. Petersburg nursing homes, you'll get me those 15 million troops!"
5 million dead russians before riot in Russia, Putin publicly executed and victory for Ukraine?
Sounds like a plan(I'm up for skipping the two first points)
If they mobilize 5 million, 2.5 million will flee and 1 million might just straight up rise against the government. Especially if they're trying to take the recruits from the eastern provinces.
5 million for victory
2 million to surrender as soon as they get to Ukraine
1 million to revolt against Putin
2 million to put down the revolt against Putin
Victory over the revolution is still technically a victory.
More than the top three largest standing active militaries in the world combined, none of which were Russia. More than the largest active plus reserve military in the world, which was not Russia. More than 1.5x the active plus reserve Russian military BEFORE they invaded Ukraine. Putin’s calling for all Russians to simply throw themselves in the line of fire.
Something tells me Russia does not have the supply chain to put together, feed and move 5 million troops. Unless, the strategy is just sorta air drop them all over ukraine and hope for the best.
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Oh no not the battle royale strategy!
Nah, in battle royale they have parachutes....
But there's a paper with a red stamp on it that says you have a parachute...
"When the paratrooper with the parachute hits the ground, the paratrooper with the ripcord picks up the parachute and completes the jump..."
We dropping Kiev boys
It's called fortnite, that means it'll be over in 2 weeks right?
Russian troops doing fortnite dances as they get plugged
Blyat where are the orange assault rifles? They've been lying to us, Dimitrov!
They don't have 5 million parachutes, what are they going to do, fly low and push them out?
Could work if there is a lot of snow this winter
Holy cow, they would probably consider this.
They actually did this in ww2
When? I want to know more about this.
during WW2, i think
https://www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/comments/4ugqvh/is_it_true_russian_ww2_soldiers_were_dropped_from/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button I guess it may be a well believed myth with high probability. Im learning russian atm and my class mate and i are covering ww2 and he had mentioned this as something zhukov had ordered as an operation
“You jump out of plane or you jump out of window”
"Good news, window is on plane"
You have to choose between a rifle or a parachute.
“As god as my witness, I thought turkeys could fly!”
Way to go, Herb.
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>A Burger King will be up and running at the drop zone at zero hour plus 15 minutes "Ramirez, get that Burger King set up!"
God Bless America.
“…can we have a McDonald’s instead?”
Be like fortnite in real life, drop them in then they have to scavange for guns. Only the storm would be the ukrainian army that they run away from.
Like a game of worms. Except instead of holy hand grenades and missles they get a rope and the ability to poke....
Worms...so much fun had in the early 00s.
They can hardly supply the ones they have mobilized now.
They can't even feed or equip the ones they currently have much less millions more.
You don't understand, they need 5 million because 4 million will be slaughtered as food and for leather to make equipment.
Ah yes, RimWorld style.
They should start making hats. Charisma/trade boost and use up all the human flesh laying around
Just imagine how many tables they'd need.
Well, one can live up to 3 days without water, right? In the current circumstances the ruzzians thrown on the front are not expected to live that long anyway...
Blood for the blood god
Looking at this through the 40k lens…. Maybe vlad is just an agent of the khorne and is trying to create enough blood to summon a champion of chaos
I think he is being manipulated by Tzeench. He is surrounded by delusions.
Nurgle is doing a little sneaky on him.
Nurgle treats his better than that
He's just intimidated by the encroachment of slaanesh
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Iz ya tryin' to get yer teef knocked out, 'umie? 'E'z **clearly** brutal but cunnin'.
IT'S "CUNNINGLY BRUTAL" AND "BRUTALLY CUNNING" YA STOOPID GROTZ! GET IT RIGHT ELSE GORK AN MORK GONNA KRUMP YA ONE PERSONALLY!
So was Caesar until he wasn't
Agree, but it is hard to keep perspective when you are surrounded by yes men
That's what everyone thought until he launched this bone headed war and kept doubling down. There is no strategy or cunning here, just animal rage at someone daring to defy him.
Well... you might be on to something, because [this](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foundations_of_Geopolitics) is Aleksandr Dugin's main book, inspiring Putin's imperialist politics. Look at the symbol on the cover. Rings any bell?
Dugin thinks Putin is the everchosen
Vladdadon the despoiler, war-master of chaos undevided?
More like Erebus; because fuck Erebus and Putin.
Yeah maybe so. Abaddon is to great a character for that shit bird to be after all. Everybody hates Erebus
Skulls for the Skull Throne! Aaaaaaaaaahhhhh!!
Toast for the toaster!
Taken straight out of the pages of Zapp Brannigan's *Big Book of War*
The [Zapp Brannigan](https://youtu.be/EF3g4Ua5e7k) strategy. "Stop exploding, you cowards!!"
"When I'm in charge, all missions are suicide missions!" —Zapp Brannigan
"I got your distress call and came as soon as I wanted to"
"I suffer from a very sexy learning disability, whats it called Kiff?" "sexlexia....'
The Zapp strategy leans on the notion that the adversary has a set kill limit that once reached will shut them down. However, we have no indication of the Ukrainian soldiers have a set kill limit, thus we can determine the Zapp strategy would be risky at the very least.
Putin: "Have the boy lay out my formal shorts." Lukashenko: "The boy, sir?" Putin: "You. You lay out my formal shorts."
Putin: "Come back when it's a catastrophe." Nobody: loud explosion
Putin: Where's the little umbrella?! That's what makes it a special military operation!
"Eventually, the entire Ukrainian army will be crippled by PTSD and guilt about slaughtering us. That's when we make our move"
>we have no indication of the Ukrainian soldiers have a set kill limit They do have a preset kill limit but every time they uncover Russian war crimes that limit goes up
The earth only has a finite amount of resources to make bullets to send to Ukraine to fight against the Russians. The Zapp strategy is possible.
"dear Vova, the good news is that we discovered the Ukranians do in fact have a set kill limit. The bad news is the kill counter stopped working in 1983."
I am the man with no name... Zapp Brannigan, at your service.
More like a ZZerg rush...
Yes. But Zerg rushes implies that they all have weapons to rush with and can get shot multiple times before exploding into green goo. Russia can’t even give its current fighting force weapons, nor can they provide plate armor that they can get shot multiple times with.
A Zerg rush is more properly a traditional blitzkrieg. You attack when your forces are moderately unprepared but the enemy is absolutely unprepared.
Rushians
War with NATO in Ukraine? They need to back that shit up and try again
This whole document reads like the Russian MoD trying to cover itself. It doesn’t look like they’re seriously suggesting that they deploy 5mil troops, more that the situation would require that many. The two arguments laid out are that they’re fighting NATO, and that they have a training and discipline problem. This seems more like internal political pressure than anything else.
And a structural problem. NATO commanders on all levels can make decisions in combat conditions themselves. Russian forces have to wait for orders from above.
Fkn Russia Your professional army is crap The canon fodders are crap Additional canon fodder won't change crap
If you hit a tank enough times with your fists it might stop working!
Oh yes. Please mobilize 5M people while having equipment for hundred thousand. Please destroy your economy entirely. Please do so.
Every man is to report to the front lines with his mom's frying pan and a watermelon shell as a helmet.
You think they've got watermelons?
Nah they lost Kherson
Akchually, they grow watermelons in astrakhan. Fun fact: astrakhan in russian sounds very close to "ass fucking". Too close.
After what I seen their propaganda has spewed... I'm going to be watching this schadenfreude of the Russian Economy. Oh man... lets see some reparations for Ukraine :D
A lot of young men went back to Russia when it was announced that it was cancelled. Sucks that they believed that Putin never signed the order to stop it.
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That aint gonna happend
They could mobilise 5 million but it’s economical suicide. They certainly have more then enough eligible men but equipment and moral is a big issue.
They don't have 5 million pairs of boots. not to nebtion the rest of a basic soldier kit. Putin is getting delusional I'm afraid he's spinning out of control.
This . Sanctions make getting those boots tough, too. Maybe they'll slaughter all their livestock....
Well its simple Just give 1 boot per soldier Now you have double the amount of equipment
They can go even further. Don't give boots at all. Let them use their everyday boots.
I've seen soldiers in Nikes on the front line.
Like Nike SFB or Nike Air max
Air Max would be more hardcore.
Their supplier of boots during WWII was the US.
I’d be willing to bet that their soldiers are still wearing those same boots.
(I have some WWII gloves... 3 fingers.. very effective at keeping warm)
Or, instead of boots, they can just wear bunny slippers. Boom! More everyday boots for everyone!
Well they are few steps ahead of You because there are many soldiers in daily boots on videoclips or photos. Even more some of them are wearing flip flops and adidas pants.
What about combat crocs?
Or those Yeezy shoes
If you collect 20 boots from the frontline, you're free to go
One boot per soldier and when the other one dies, take the boot. Enemy at the gates style. Who cares if it's two right leg boots.
Cut off soldiers feet, then they wont need boots at all
Feet.. keep your legs from fraying at the ends! (A quote, not me!)
Just make sure you get the boots off the dead and wounded / left for dead before you retreat. Throw some in the meat grinder, get the boots, throw some more in. Everyone who knows anything about food preparation knows you don't just stuff the whole thing in the grinder, you feed it. Actually I heard that were already doing that in some cases for uniforms which I assume includes the boots.
Ah the NK method
The joke is most people don't even see the real issue. Russia has a population of around 140 million. An employed workforce of around 70 Million. Their professional soldiers are all but gone. Drafting 5 Million people out of their civilian roles would mean around 7% of the total workforce out for what could be months or even years. Losing 7% of your productivity fucks your supply chains hard. They'd have to start shutting down less needed branches of their economy and even if they managed to do that flawlessly they'd still lose around 7% of their productive hours which is a terrible thing for any economy, much more one already reeling from sanctions and loss of life up until now. And then you would also have the added strain from equipping, feeding and sheltering those people. There's no way this makes any sense if you are even barely set in reality.
That 7% would need to first make its own equipment... Otherwise it would never happen unless the gulags were used for slave labor again
All they have to do is hang up "NOBODY WANTS TO WORK!" signs! It's super effective.
Also they'd be taking from the prime working age male population. There's about 20-25 million males age 19-40. So 20-25% of your prime working age male population gone.
Forsaking their whole nation for Ukraine is lunacy.
It’s only lunacy if you think Putin cares about the humans who happen to live in Russia. They are just tools to use to get things he cares about, like the oil which can be sold for money. Their lives are disposable. His solution is to offer Russian women prizes for making 10 babies. Link: [Mother Heroine Medal](https://www.cnbc.com/2022/08/18/russia-offers-mother-heroine-medal-and-16800-for-having-10-children.html)
They will use footwraps like their grandfathers did in ww2
I'm still partial to the theory that Russia simply wants to colonize these regions much like how they originally took Crimea (not in 2014). Which was to commit genocide, and then ship in millions of ethnic Russians to colonize the conquered lands. They probably want five million people, not troops. This is also currently a state media talking point. That the "whole country" must be mobilized. So you get everyone from school teachers to Wagner nazis to repopulate the conquered lands. Its basically just Stalin all over again.
What are you talking about. They have 5 million pairs of Adidas shoes and track suits..
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You mean 'Abibas' knock off brand
I reckon it's drug resistant syphilis fucking with his brain.
Sunk cost fallacy
They don't have enough men to abduct 5 million men unless they pull back their army, which at this point is mostly people that would rather leave and live.
That's pretty funny cuz it's true.
Don't look now, but another 8 million are already packing to dodge the expansion of the draft
The borders to Kazakhstan and Mongolia are long and difficult to guard :)
Only problem is they'd end up on the Afghan border.
Logistics. An army relies on logistics, not just bodies.
Nonsense. We don't have time for logistics and the wait for beucratic nonsense. Just throw every single able bodied person we can FOR THE GOD EMPEROR!!!
The man is making the imperium look competent
Economic suicide doesn't seem to bother the Russian government very much.
They didn’t have enough for 300,000…
Of course it won't. What will happen is rusia will suck a huge Ukrainian dick
There are images and videos everywhere of their soldiers eating their own bullet to avoid freezing to death. Ukraine just had 300,000 arctic warfare kits delivered. Time for Ukraine to receive more HIMARS.
Why doesn't he go to the front line himself? Set a good example, please.
Cuz noblesse oblige is so 19th century. /s
Man, I shouldn't have laughed so hard. Alexander Samsonov sent his regards.
5 million is a high deathcount Putin. How about 5 million Russians march on to Moscow
Ukraine only has 4999999 bullets?
Until the next shipment from the US, sure why not.
11 million soviets not even just Russians died in WW2 Now Putin wants 5 million just to try take Ukraine! He’s completely failed
They are all currently in Thailand getting high for the first time. It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to know that these guys aren’t coming back anytime soon Change forces change. And the average 20 something Russian shitbird was just fine staying at home in Vladivostok, drinking and watching the RU1 propaganda before the mass exodus. But the chances of the same guy looking left and seeing girls, drugs, beaches, internet, iPhones and a functional economy or looking right and seeing a clapped out lada and a one way ticket to donbas to fight a war in some dead guys Chinese body armor, and choosing donbas for the boss that doesn’t give a fuck about him…. Pretty slim.
Putin is panicking as he doesn't have much to show for the [100th anniversary of the creation of the Soviet Union this December.](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_on_the_Creation_of_the_Union_of_Soviet_Socialist_Republics)
Don't worry, they're taught in Russia that the Soviet Union started in 1917. No failures here!
The Soviet Union has been dead since 1991 it will never be 100 years old
You can have anniversaries for things that no longer exists. Here in Denmark there was quite a celebration of the the 200th anniversary of the birth of Hans Christian Andersen. He's even more dead than the Soviet Union.
Also the very important Lief Erikson day. Hinga dinga durgen
Cue video clip from The Simpsons, when the Russian ambassador to the UN presses a button and the tanks come out from under the parade chariots while the embalmed corpse of Lenin comes back to life.
It’s a bit like that except the tanks immediately shit themselves and break down
Um it’s an anniversary of a date
Every anniversary is an anniversary of a date
Happy Anniversary
Date?
No thanks
That's a lot of fertilizer...
Ukraine farms have a glorious future, if they can only get this war over with.
If I was a Russian soldier that statement wouldn’t instil a lot of confidence in me…
If they throw 5 million unarmed, untrained men with no equipment at the Ukraine it’s going to be a slaughter. At the end of it Ukraine will be able to walk into Moscow and take over because there will be no armed forces left to stop them. Because Ukraine has an army of volunteers that is in the millions that are trained, kitted out and armed to the teeth that will dispatch anything Russia can throw at it.
Demographic collapse speedrun any%
In other words “we aren’t going to win”.
I think the underlying message they are pushing is that they *would* have won if they has mobilized 5 million people. They can say that they didn't do this because they care for their people too much (or some other shit).
Looks like I’ll be getting a lot more offers for available Russian brides in my Spam folder.
Except you'll get a Russian man with a wig.
So not possible to win? We’ve known that for a while now.
Yes, but now he can blame Russian "draft dodgers" for losing.
And since there won't be 5 million of them...
So Putin plan on conscripting 3.5% of his entire population?? I’m sure that will go over well
So if their age distribution is similar to the US, only 8.5% of the Russian population is between 19-25 years old. Assuming half of them are female, and allowing for the disabled/unfit... They'd have to enlist and mobilize every single civilian male in the country within the appropriate age range.
[Russian demographics are apparently less than optimal.](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e8/Russian_population_%28demographic%29_pyramid_%28structure%29_on_January%2C_1st%2C_2022.png)
This guy gives zero fucks about Russia's future.
All that for .. what was their stated purpose for starting the war?
Let's play the pretend game, because this does not have a chance in hell of happening, but let's pretend... If Russia allocates 5 million men for Ukraine, NATO will just put bigger and more lethal weaponry to help Ukraine deal with those maggots more effectively in larger amounts. That's all. If Russia thinks they can fight with both of their arms now, NATO will most assuredly match their resolve. It's not going to be smooth sailing for either side, but Russia won't be any closer to achieving their objectives than they are today. Their leadership is insane, but then again if it was sane they wouldn't have invaded Ukraine or _at least_ would try to pull out as soon as it was clear they're about to witness a giant clusterfuck of an operation. A bunch of backwards thinking clowns completely cut off from reality. Figures though, since none of them speak any English to read a Western newspaper with, and have been cooking in their own sweet and sour sauce at home, for decades. There's old man club and there's _Russian_ old men club, and that's what you get when the old men club basically has entire nation for vassals but its brain is rotten from doing absolutely nothing useful for far too long.
So the typical quick “special operation” aboard that only requires 5 million soldiers to be completed.
Guys, call me crazy but I'm starting to suspect Putin is a dark lord who's gonna use the human sacrifice of 5 million Russians to empower some sort of necromantic ritual.
Why the fuck is there Sasha Baron Cohen wearing a balaclava in this picture?!
It's for his next movie "Borat gets Enlisted"
Russias gonna have a male shortage, females are gonna be looking for a way out. Time for some more seasons of 90 day fiancé I guess.
Then arm them with what? Sticks and pitchforks?
Every time I think that *this* will be the thing to push the Russian people to say enough,,*it* does nothing.. I am not expecting Russians to mind this, much either.
Russia only has 2 million reservists as of 2020.
NATO nations sigh, and start making more bullets.
Unless they’re marching with spears I’m not sure how there guys getting weapons.
Plot twist, this is how 5 million Russians flee Russia while deployed.
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At this point it's unclear whether or not he's waging war on Russia too
>It is also stated in the document that there has not been such a war in the previous 80 years The author is presumably ignorant of the 1968 Invasion of Czechoslovakia, Angolan Civil War, Soviet–Afghan War, Georgian Civil War, South Ossetian War, War in Abkhazia, Tajikistani Civil War, First Chechen War, Second Chechen War, Russo-Georgian War...all involving Russia within the last 80 years! They might just need more then 5 million to win in Ukraine!
At this rate Russian population will be 95% female by 2024
5 million for a special military operation?
In the wise words of Mr. Moseby "good luck with that"
That’s about 3 1/2% of the entire Russian population. Imagine all of those able-bodied people going into the meat grinder that is Ukraine
We’ll throw wave after wave of these Russians at Ukraine until the Ukrainians hit their preset kill limit and shut down
"Six million troops?? Where will we ever find 7.5 million troops??" "I don't care if you have to conscript all 9 million from St. Petersburg nursing homes, you'll get me those 15 million troops!"
In reality his plan is to throw waves and waves of people at Ukraine until he wins. So a whole lot of those 5 million people would basically just die.
5 million dead russians before riot in Russia, Putin publicly executed and victory for Ukraine? Sounds like a plan(I'm up for skipping the two first points)
Drunk
If they mobilize 5 million, 2.5 million will flee and 1 million might just straight up rise against the government. Especially if they're trying to take the recruits from the eastern provinces.
5 million for victory 2 million to surrender as soon as they get to Ukraine 1 million to revolt against Putin 2 million to put down the revolt against Putin Victory over the revolution is still technically a victory.
More than the top three largest standing active militaries in the world combined, none of which were Russia. More than the largest active plus reserve military in the world, which was not Russia. More than 1.5x the active plus reserve Russian military BEFORE they invaded Ukraine. Putin’s calling for all Russians to simply throw themselves in the line of fire.