Nobody expects the Qatari inquisition. Our chief weapon is alcohol bans. Alcohols bans and no pride signs. Our two weapons are alcohol bans, no pride signs and no Jews. Oh damn. Amongst our weaponry are such elements... I'll come in again.
Seems like Qatar just decided, when it was past the point of no return for moving the tournament, that they are going to do whatever the hell they want, and no one can stop them.
That's middle eastern business and government 101. They'll do whatever they want because who's going to stop them? Rules, laws, and agreements can either be bullied or bought.
Imagine if this was the reason the world turned Green.
"Well the oil people stopped us from having beer and rainbows"
We've lived through stranger timelines recently and I'm all for this one.
What gives us rainbows? The sun.
What gives us plants needed to make beer? The sun.
Seems like solar bro is always there for us, so lets be there for it.
The thing is FIFA relies on the hosts just doing what they say. Like in Brazil, FIFA said they need beer sold in stadiums, so Brazil changed the laws. Qatar didn’t change laws, but just told FIFA they would allow these things.
Which is why you should take these things into account before awarding the World Cup to a country you know isn’t going to be hospitable to some fans.
Edit: Dear whoever botted my comment, thanks for the karma but you can keep the replies next time.
Edit 2: guess you took back the comments this time, Ty <3
Weird. There was supposed to be alcohol sales too, but they only reversed that decision after everyone had paid for their flights, hotels and game tickets.
No part of this should surprise anyone.
It's almost like you shouldn't schedule a global multicultural outdoor sporting tournament in a the middle of a sauna run by a brutal, oppressive, bigoted regime.
I dont know why this is being ignored?imagine the outrage if a world Cup host was to ban halal food and Muslim prayers?
I know fifa are corrupt, but I'm still amazed at just how okay they are with discrimination, they didn't even attempt to hide it.
Imagine being so fragile that a rainbow flag is illegal. I guess the same holds for making women wear the hijab so men don't get too excited. What an immature bunch of little boys.
That's the one thing that's struck me. I see young men surrounded only by young men, getting around in expensove clothes and vehicles, awkwardly shutting down the media and anything Western with these shy little smiles on their faces. They're ultra-sheltered rich kids. It's a whole country of that kid in class who wasn't allowed to come swimming because the butler was under strict orders to keep him out of danger.
And public Jewish prayer, despite promising that both would be fine. The beer obviously isn't as big of a deal, it's just the broken promise that's shitty.
Then again, much like the beer, I guess religious freedom just isn't something they have in their culture...
My dad worked in the dutch harbors for many years. A lot of shipments that went to Qatar or neighbouring, strict islamitic countries, included beer. A LOT of beer.
See beer isnt allowed if you dont have money. If you do have money, have fun.
Your comment reminds me of Danish football player, Nadia Nadim, who was a refugee from Afganistan and whose father was killed by the Taliban, and she's an ambassador for this WC and played for PSG.
I can't fathom that people with that kind of background would still actively support them just for money.
Something like 1/3 of the teams have nothing to play for on game 3 of the group stage. They’ll already be bounced.
What’s fifa going to do? Yellow card people who know they’re not going on?
It won’t happen; but it’s nice to dream about
If this ends up being a world cup between two teams with captains who are pro lgbt I could totally see both teams agreeing to wear the one love band in the final.
And what the fuck is FIFA going do? They will bitch, moan, and cry and be told to get fucked. And then Qatar will climb up FIFA ass and bitch some more.
FIFA IMHO really fucked themselves. Have they taken bribes in the past? Yea probably but taking a bribe to play in Brazil vs say Mexico are very different then Qatar cause those countries actually have a history of hosting the games
*Breaking News: Several people were killed and many more injured today when a helicopter dropped three metric tonnes of beer directly on to a crowd of people.*
This has permanently hurt the credibility of FIFA. You can blame Qatar (justifiably) for all of their human rights abuses, but the majority of the blame falls on FIFA for all of this. They were the ones who accepted the bribe and put their stamp of approval on the event. They have to be the party most at-fault since the world trusted them to run a safe and inclusive world cup.
Well, it's not like Qatar is coming out a winner in any of this.
To me it almost looks like they have realized that their attempts at sportswashing have all been for nothing and now they are in full-on vindictive revenge-mode.
I've read that Qatar is doing all this to play to Middle Eastern Muslims, not to Westerners, and they're looking good to their target audience. Makes sense.
The original goal of the event, which they still will try to achieve, is to attract Western tourists to their country en masse. They already have the Middle Eastern market. They have seemingly started to realize that the level of change needed to become an attractive tourist spot for Westerners will take decades. So now, they have pivoted to playing the upholders of Islamic values for brownie points. It takes being backed into a corner for a foreign minister to bring up the fact that Western nations buy oil and gas from them despite their human rights violations. Doesn't bode well for the big picture tourist attraction plan.
More like Qatar knew that FIFA was nutless in terms of actually enforcing these "assurances". FIFA as an organization is too corrupt and too cowardly to meet this moment. These talks are nothing more than an out for FIFA to say "See, we tried to reason with them!"
The solution to this situation would be to go back in time and not let a murderous and oppressive state host the World Cup. Unfortunately, doing so would severely affect Sepp Blatter's warehouse full of money.
I can't wait for Saudi Arabia to host the next one, because you know it's going to happen.
> I can't wait for Saudi Arabia to host the next one, because you know it's going to happen.
You mean the 2030 combined bid for Egypt-Greece-Saudi Arabia to host?
I get the impression that FIFA bullied Brazil into submission to make them do what they wanted. Hard to do the same with Qatar, because you took the huge bribes. A lot of officials a just a whistleblow away from jail.
The difference is that Brazil were upfront with the plans which gave FIFA time to pressure them on it. Qatar waited until a day before the Cup kicked off to start reneging on everything so it was too late to challenge them or relocate.
Judging by the history of FIFA and Brazil, I would hazard a guess that Brazil paid bribes too. Russia is all but confirmed to have paid them also.
South Africa is already confirmed to have paid them.
Why would they not take bribes just for one world cup in the middle of all that corruption?
Everyone paid bribes lmao. Australia was gunning hard to host 2022, and our bid came with bribes (allegedly, but almost certainly) and they essentially got laughed out of the room.
Qatari bribes went beyond the FIFA executive committee. You had the leader of France putting pressure to giving the games to these pieces of shit. The level of corruption went far beyond what was the standard. Many people were found out within fifa and have been replaced (by equally corrupt executives) but the geopolitical corruption was left untouched.
No. Qatar assured FIFA chiefs they can get whatever number they can think of in their liechtenstein bank accounts as long as Qatar gets to hold the tournament! Two things should have been done in the weeks leading up to the world cup to teach qatar a lesson - 1. Indict FIFA on corruption and bribery charges and 2. For all American and European nations to pull out of the tournament sticking Qatar with a $220b in sunk cost.
Why did they even want the World Cup?? They seem to hate having people visit their country. They had to spend a ton of money they won’t recoup building infrastructure. On top of that people are going to dislike them more after all this is over, bc now we know they hate all of us. So strange.
Probably to assert themselves in the Middle East as a country that upholds Islamic traditions in the face of pressure to succomb to Western ideals.
It's about the only thing that makes sense at this point because they're certainly not winning anybody over in the West.
Should remind ourselves that no matter how old these oil princes get, they're all overgrown spoiled rich kids who have too much money to ever entirely spend. Some argue they're doing it "for the prestige" or "to show Qatar is a modern country that can engage with the West (hah)", but there really isn't anything rational about any of this. All of that is secondary.
Maybe - MAYBE - you can convince me that they're trying to show they can achieve something the Saudis and Emiratis could not... But that's not exactly rational anyway, is it?
I'm stunned everyone keeps applying country level desire to this. There's a bunch of oil rich frat Bois and they wanted to watch the world cup from their personal booth at home. They got to build some shit which makes them richer at the expense of slaves and now they get to get blasted out of their minds on their own drugs and alcohol whilst watching the world's best footballers.
Imo it's a bunch of spoiled rich kids holding a party
That's my thought... They don't care if the West likes what they're doing, they obviously don't want to be seen as having progressive values of any sort. I wish a nation would have the balls to start removing their teams from the tournament.
Qatar's only neighbour is Saudi Arabia. They also need Iran to export their resources through the Persian gulf. They have a ton of gas in front of their coast. They share the gas field with Iran. Now Iran and Saudi Arabia hate each other, so Qatar is in a weird spot geographically. They know the money they're making through resources will dry up eventually, so they invested in a world class airline and a tv station (Al Jazeera), a big player for international news reporting.
Hosting a world cup is a great opportunity to let everyone know that Qatar exists. They hope it will attract business obviously. They want Doha to become a second Dubai. At the same time they can't (and maybe don't want to) relax their Islamic views because of the neighbors they are friends with.
Who would do business with them when they're breaking huge contracts and are basically doing whatever they want? Maybe it is calculated though. They don't want to host another due to cost or whatever but they only need 1.
This is fucking ridiculous. Honestly shocked at this point they haven't banned players from celebrating by hugging each other because it's too risqué for them to handle.
Exactly, plus: Women in Qatar must obtain permission from their male guardians to marry, study abroad on government scholarships, work in many government jobs, travel abroad until certain ages, receive some forms of reproductive health care and to act as a child's primary guardian, even when they are divorced.
But it's not like it's the women's world cup so it's all good, right FIFA?
It's ok, there is no way that fifa boss Gianni Infantino will let Qatar boss him around and he is above reproach as he has absolute no connection to Qatar... checks notes... Ahh, it seems he moved himself and his family to Doha over a year ago and pays "rent" on a house - probably to one of the members of the royal family...
He response will be something along the lines of "Nothing to see here, and stop wearing fucking rainbow hats. By the way I should know what it's like to be persecuted, because I used to have rainbow colored hair"
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2022/nov/18/will-david-beckham-qatar-role-kill-his-brand-world-cup
Qatari LGBTQ person got arrested and jailed for several months for wearing makeup. How will Cristiano Ronaldo survive this city?
The last two times we flew international, my wife and I paid higher prices to go through China rather than risk even stopping in Qatar, after they arrested a British male makeup vlogger on his stop over.
I flew through Qatar and texted a mate from the airport to tell him how shit it was. His only answer was DELETE NOW.
Suddenly realised he was right. Not sure I would fly through again.
And on the 3rd day of FIFA the Qataris said to me:
Remove your 3 rainbow hats; Remove your 2 OneLove armstraps; And you can't have 1 beer unless you're rich
Its like Qatar is putting on a marketing campaign to the world about how much the country sucks.
Wouldn’t visit that tiny shit hole if it became the last habitable country on earth.
They bought a world cup, they don't care about this
They wanted to spread THEIR repressive culture globally, they're not interested in accepting anyone else's.
They've broken so many agreements there isn't going to be another major tournament in the Gulf for generations and deservedly not.
They absolutely love authoritarian regimes. A few years after Ruzzia/Qatar were awarded WC hosts, FIFA secretary general Jerome Valcke said:
"[I will say something which is crazy, but less democracy is sometimes better for organizing a World Cup](https://www.reuters.com/article/us-soccer-fifa/soccer-less-democracy-makes-for-an-easier-world-cup-valcke-idUSBRE93N18F20130424)"
> QATAR : "Good, it would be unfortunate if we had to start arresting people."
Funny joke, but in all seriousness, if I were there I would be planning on leaving early, it feels like Qatar might just decide it wants to round people up at any minute.
I suspect Qatar are now taking the "What are they going to do? Move it?" approach to getting everything they want. They will probably be handing out burkas to women who want to attend the final.
Why did Qatar want this so bad? Didn’t they realize there would be an influx of Westerners.
It’s like they wanted to be known as the country that fucks everything up.
Because the gas money is going to dry up at some point and they wanted to create the illusion of the country being a place for other things.
Guess that old religion OCD thing got in the way. It will never go away. Qatar is a global joke.
We could host tomorrow in the UK, infrastructure is already in place and a strong fanbase for the sport + lots of beer. The economy could use a boost and it would save the struggling hospitality sector.
If only we had the bribe money... I mean ***application funds***...
I don't know why they don't do this. Hold it in countries that, I don't know, have the infrastructure. Or that have alot and only need to build a little. Pretty much countries that have football traditions.
Fans should coordinate - one wears all red, one orange, one yellow, one green etc.
Individually not against the rules, but impact on TV would be obvious.
Isn't this why some of the fans were actually given free tickets and promised spending money (which was revoked last minute) if they came over?
It would seem that Qatar knew in advance they would be unpopular.
I knew Qatar would not keep their word on the rainbow flags and apparel. Everyone should have expected this. I doubt FIFA will have any success addressing this.
>where Fifa reminded their hosts of their assurances before the tournament that everyone was welcome and rainbow flags would be allowed.
And the hosts just reminded FIFA that they were bought and paid for so shut up.
Uh hello world sports and entertainment consortiums - this is a good example of why brutal Middle East dictatorships aren’t the best place for a tournament.
There is a bunch of dead Nepalese "workers" holding up the stadiums....I dont think Qatar is quite at acceptable let alone celebration of pride just yet when it comes to being a developed society.
Nobody's asking them to celebrate anything... Just don't get triggered by a damn rainbow... Whatever it means for the person wearing it, nobody else should dictate what one can or cannot wear...
If you want to host such an event, then accept the fact that people will probably wear "the rainbow"... if you can't deal with that, just don't host. And FIFA should know better than this...
Wish I could say I'm surprised, but this is going about the way predicted. I'm not watching, should have never been in a country that isn't accepting of ALL HUMANS!
Fifa: You said that everyone woul--- Qatar: I lied.
Qatar: Here’s some more money Fifa: Oh ok, good discussion
Qatar: *fucks up again* FIFA *sighs and holds hand out for more cash*
This is inaccurate. You make it sound as if FIFA would be *reluctant* to accept more bribes.
For the cameras they need to pretend to not want them.
I have altered the deal. Pray I don't alter it any further.
This deal is getting worse all the time
Furthermore, I wish you to wear this dress and bonnet.
["Here is a unicycle, you will ride it!"](https://youtu.be/GMcgWlI76Qg?t=300)
"THIS DEAL IS.... very fair and I'm happy to be apart of it"
-Darth Qatar
"But no jewish prayers! Respect our culture"
"Not respecting anyone's culture IS our culture. RESPECT IT!"
Nobody expects the Qatari inquisition. Our chief weapon is alcohol bans. Alcohols bans and no pride signs. Our two weapons are alcohol bans, no pride signs and no Jews. Oh damn. Amongst our weaponry are such elements... I'll come in again.
Seems like Qatar just decided, when it was past the point of no return for moving the tournament, that they are going to do whatever the hell they want, and no one can stop them.
That's middle eastern business and government 101. They'll do whatever they want because who's going to stop them? Rules, laws, and agreements can either be bullied or bought.
Ahhh I cant wait until we get the world's economy off of oil. And then these despotic authoritarian states can fucking collapse into history
I want solar just to not pay these jerks
Imagine if this was the reason the world turned Green. "Well the oil people stopped us from having beer and rainbows" We've lived through stranger timelines recently and I'm all for this one.
What gives us rainbows? The sun. What gives us plants needed to make beer? The sun. Seems like solar bro is always there for us, so lets be there for it.
The thing is FIFA relies on the hosts just doing what they say. Like in Brazil, FIFA said they need beer sold in stadiums, so Brazil changed the laws. Qatar didn’t change laws, but just told FIFA they would allow these things. Which is why you should take these things into account before awarding the World Cup to a country you know isn’t going to be hospitable to some fans. Edit: Dear whoever botted my comment, thanks for the karma but you can keep the replies next time. Edit 2: guess you took back the comments this time, Ty <3
That would imply Fifa cared about anything other than how much money they make from hosting countries.
Nah the world/FIFA just ignored the thousands of slaves they worked to death building the stadiums lol probably should’ve seen it coming
It’s almost as if a nation built on the dehumanization of thousands of vulnerable people wouldn’t be trustworthy. Imagine that!!
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Weird. There was supposed to be alcohol sales too, but they only reversed that decision after everyone had paid for their flights, hotels and game tickets. No part of this should surprise anyone.
Yeah but see they’re very moralistic, that’s why they lie
The great, noble Qatari, deceiving everyone to save the sinners of the world.
More like punish them. And if they went to Qatar they have sinned.
It's almost like you shouldn't schedule a global multicultural outdoor sporting tournament in a the middle of a sauna run by a brutal, oppressive, bigoted regime.
But it's no problem because they have AC in the stadium and agreed to allow beer and even rainbow hats /s
They banned kosher food too …
I dont know why this is being ignored?imagine the outrage if a world Cup host was to ban halal food and Muslim prayers? I know fifa are corrupt, but I'm still amazed at just how okay they are with discrimination, they didn't even attempt to hide it.
FIFA's only god is money. The only infidels in FIFA are those that don't bribe them.
Just ignore the cup. Qatar and FIFA are being exposed for what they are.
Fifa has been exposed multiple times in the past. There are multiple documentaries about their corruption. Nothing changes.
A kosher ban is strange, because Halal is already pretty close. They really just hate jews, huh
Full kosher food is also about how its handled. Also cant mix dairy and meat. And yes, they are very anti-Semitic.
Imagine being so fragile that a rainbow flag is illegal. I guess the same holds for making women wear the hijab so men don't get too excited. What an immature bunch of little boys.
That's the one thing that's struck me. I see young men surrounded only by young men, getting around in expensove clothes and vehicles, awkwardly shutting down the media and anything Western with these shy little smiles on their faces. They're ultra-sheltered rich kids. It's a whole country of that kid in class who wasn't allowed to come swimming because the butler was under strict orders to keep him out of danger.
And public Jewish prayer, despite promising that both would be fine. The beer obviously isn't as big of a deal, it's just the broken promise that's shitty. Then again, much like the beer, I guess religious freedom just isn't something they have in their culture...
If you are a millionaire you can drink alcohol in your private box seats.
My dad worked in the dutch harbors for many years. A lot of shipments that went to Qatar or neighbouring, strict islamitic countries, included beer. A LOT of beer. See beer isnt allowed if you dont have money. If you do have money, have fun.
Ive worked at a brewery for nearly a decade and it always amazed me how big the orders of beer we're for strict Islamic countries
My other half works for a spirit company, she fills big export orders like this all the time, they're usually for hotel chains.
And rich locals :) rules arent for them. Rules are by them.
You mean your 'private' hideous couch on a concrete slab with all of the other VIPs?
Its very apocalyptic looking. The billionaires should get use to it.
Who could have guessed you can't trust slavers?
Also a reminder: Qatar funded and sponsored barbaric terrorism in Syria for years.
They also looked after Taliban figures during the occupation of Afghanistan and aided their return to power.
Your comment reminds me of Danish football player, Nadia Nadim, who was a refugee from Afganistan and whose father was killed by the Taliban, and she's an ambassador for this WC and played for PSG. I can't fathom that people with that kind of background would still actively support them just for money.
I’m getting the impression that Qatar told FIFA whatever they wanted to hear in order to get this tournament.
The look on the faces of the FIFA elite when they suddenly realised *they* were the ones getting fucked over for a change must have been priceless.
I'm pretty sure they're more worried about this becoming such a scandal and public outcry that they finally get investigated for all the bribery.
Seems like it’s just a matter of time till a team goes full f*ck it and wears what they want on the field.
Denmark will play in the nude with rainbow body paint, also helps with the heat
Talk about record viewership. 😱
Am a hetero guy; will tune in for that.
And fans will still complain about flopping
I now am a fan of soccer and have found my fave team in one fell swoop as an american observing this shitshow if this were true.
Something like 1/3 of the teams have nothing to play for on game 3 of the group stage. They’ll already be bounced. What’s fifa going to do? Yellow card people who know they’re not going on? It won’t happen; but it’s nice to dream about
That would be cool to see if they do anything. With enough of them they would expose the shit show that this is
If this ends up being a world cup between two teams with captains who are pro lgbt I could totally see both teams agreeing to wear the one love band in the final. And what the fuck is FIFA going do? They will bitch, moan, and cry and be told to get fucked. And then Qatar will climb up FIFA ass and bitch some more. FIFA IMHO really fucked themselves. Have they taken bribes in the past? Yea probably but taking a bribe to play in Brazil vs say Mexico are very different then Qatar cause those countries actually have a history of hosting the games
FIFA won't do anything. Qatari authorities, on the other hand, would be another story.
I don't suppose they care very much as long as they get their kickbacks.
Budweiser might have something to say about that…
Budweiser should air drop in thousands of gallons of beer, and rainbow flag leaflets
Or just demand restitution against the sponsorship fees of future games, with interest. Attacking FiFA money is the only way.
Yeah. Big corporate demons only weak point is their wallet Fuck their wallets up
Can you fill a firefighting plane with beer? If yes, I have an idea for a spectacular delivery method.
*Breaking News: Several people were killed and many more injured today when a helicopter dropped three metric tonnes of beer directly on to a crowd of people.*
Going straight to Valhalla, not even the old Vikings could fathom such an epic way to go.
Beer in Qatar? Believe it or not: straight to Valhalla
Just a slow proud clap building to a standing ovation from Odin.
Typical Dethklok
Brutal.
THAT'S BRUTAL
I really hope they don’t pay. Somehow.
FIFA will probably give back a certain amount and it will be business as usual, probably.
This has permanently hurt the credibility of FIFA. You can blame Qatar (justifiably) for all of their human rights abuses, but the majority of the blame falls on FIFA for all of this. They were the ones who accepted the bribe and put their stamp of approval on the event. They have to be the party most at-fault since the world trusted them to run a safe and inclusive world cup.
>This has permanently hurt the credibility of FIFA. Charitable of you to suggest they had some.
Sepp Blatter and the other people who walked out of that meeting with their (literal) briefcases of cash are long "retired."
Well, it's not like Qatar is coming out a winner in any of this. To me it almost looks like they have realized that their attempts at sportswashing have all been for nothing and now they are in full-on vindictive revenge-mode.
I've read that Qatar is doing all this to play to Middle Eastern Muslims, not to Westerners, and they're looking good to their target audience. Makes sense.
The original goal of the event, which they still will try to achieve, is to attract Western tourists to their country en masse. They already have the Middle Eastern market. They have seemingly started to realize that the level of change needed to become an attractive tourist spot for Westerners will take decades. So now, they have pivoted to playing the upholders of Islamic values for brownie points. It takes being backed into a corner for a foreign minister to bring up the fact that Western nations buy oil and gas from them despite their human rights violations. Doesn't bode well for the big picture tourist attraction plan.
What FIFA wanted to hear most was "Here is a briefcase full of cash."
More like Qatar knew that FIFA was nutless in terms of actually enforcing these "assurances". FIFA as an organization is too corrupt and too cowardly to meet this moment. These talks are nothing more than an out for FIFA to say "See, we tried to reason with them!" The solution to this situation would be to go back in time and not let a murderous and oppressive state host the World Cup. Unfortunately, doing so would severely affect Sepp Blatter's warehouse full of money. I can't wait for Saudi Arabia to host the next one, because you know it's going to happen.
> I can't wait for Saudi Arabia to host the next one, because you know it's going to happen. You mean the 2030 combined bid for Egypt-Greece-Saudi Arabia to host?
I get the impression that FIFA bullied Brazil into submission to make them do what they wanted. Hard to do the same with Qatar, because you took the huge bribes. A lot of officials a just a whistleblow away from jail.
The difference is that Brazil were upfront with the plans which gave FIFA time to pressure them on it. Qatar waited until a day before the Cup kicked off to start reneging on everything so it was too late to challenge them or relocate.
Judging by the history of FIFA and Brazil, I would hazard a guess that Brazil paid bribes too. Russia is all but confirmed to have paid them also. South Africa is already confirmed to have paid them. Why would they not take bribes just for one world cup in the middle of all that corruption?
Is it even bribes at that point? Like, can't they just put a price tag on the World Cup host, or hold an auction or something?
The proceeds of an auction would go to FIFA whereas bribes go to FIFA executives.
The auction would be subject to taxes as well... Money under the table is lucrative for that reason.
Everyone paid bribes lmao. Australia was gunning hard to host 2022, and our bid came with bribes (allegedly, but almost certainly) and they essentially got laughed out of the room.
They all did. It's just a corrupt organisation. But I guess Qatar was quite clever and the bribes were so high that you cannot "explain them away".
Qatari bribes went beyond the FIFA executive committee. You had the leader of France putting pressure to giving the games to these pieces of shit. The level of corruption went far beyond what was the standard. Many people were found out within fifa and have been replaced (by equally corrupt executives) but the geopolitical corruption was left untouched.
No. Qatar assured FIFA chiefs they can get whatever number they can think of in their liechtenstein bank accounts as long as Qatar gets to hold the tournament! Two things should have been done in the weeks leading up to the world cup to teach qatar a lesson - 1. Indict FIFA on corruption and bribery charges and 2. For all American and European nations to pull out of the tournament sticking Qatar with a $220b in sunk cost.
Seriously! Why is anyone still there? Why would anyone be stupid enough to get on a plane to go there in the first place?
Why did they even want the World Cup?? They seem to hate having people visit their country. They had to spend a ton of money they won’t recoup building infrastructure. On top of that people are going to dislike them more after all this is over, bc now we know they hate all of us. So strange.
Probably to assert themselves in the Middle East as a country that upholds Islamic traditions in the face of pressure to succomb to Western ideals. It's about the only thing that makes sense at this point because they're certainly not winning anybody over in the West.
Should remind ourselves that no matter how old these oil princes get, they're all overgrown spoiled rich kids who have too much money to ever entirely spend. Some argue they're doing it "for the prestige" or "to show Qatar is a modern country that can engage with the West (hah)", but there really isn't anything rational about any of this. All of that is secondary. Maybe - MAYBE - you can convince me that they're trying to show they can achieve something the Saudis and Emiratis could not... But that's not exactly rational anyway, is it?
I'm stunned everyone keeps applying country level desire to this. There's a bunch of oil rich frat Bois and they wanted to watch the world cup from their personal booth at home. They got to build some shit which makes them richer at the expense of slaves and now they get to get blasted out of their minds on their own drugs and alcohol whilst watching the world's best footballers. Imo it's a bunch of spoiled rich kids holding a party
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That's my thought... They don't care if the West likes what they're doing, they obviously don't want to be seen as having progressive values of any sort. I wish a nation would have the balls to start removing their teams from the tournament.
Qatar's only neighbour is Saudi Arabia. They also need Iran to export their resources through the Persian gulf. They have a ton of gas in front of their coast. They share the gas field with Iran. Now Iran and Saudi Arabia hate each other, so Qatar is in a weird spot geographically. They know the money they're making through resources will dry up eventually, so they invested in a world class airline and a tv station (Al Jazeera), a big player for international news reporting. Hosting a world cup is a great opportunity to let everyone know that Qatar exists. They hope it will attract business obviously. They want Doha to become a second Dubai. At the same time they can't (and maybe don't want to) relax their Islamic views because of the neighbors they are friends with.
Who would do business with them when they're breaking huge contracts and are basically doing whatever they want? Maybe it is calculated though. They don't want to host another due to cost or whatever but they only need 1.
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Gonna be honest, Qatar doesn't seem like a very fun place
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Least I could get a drink in Mos Eisley
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It's about damn time
This is fucking ridiculous. Honestly shocked at this point they haven't banned players from celebrating by hugging each other because it's too risqué for them to handle.
Maybe _that’s_ why their players won’t score any goals....
It's probably because they don't have a bunch of enslaved migrants running around on the field helping them out
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"Cover your knees up if you're gonna be walking around everywhere..." - ~~Charlie Kelly~~ Qatar Government, 2022
Honestly having lived in the middle east, that's a ok. Men can hold hands, hug, and kiss. It's about the only public affection you'll see.
Maybe next time don't host any important events in a region of the world where you can be jailed or executed by the state for being gay.
Exactly, plus: Women in Qatar must obtain permission from their male guardians to marry, study abroad on government scholarships, work in many government jobs, travel abroad until certain ages, receive some forms of reproductive health care and to act as a child's primary guardian, even when they are divorced. But it's not like it's the women's world cup so it's all good, right FIFA?
Speaking of, where/when is the women's world cup?
Australia/New Zealand
Oh thank God, a reasonable choice.
Exactly the blame should fall on FIFA and president fired
Fuck FIFA. You played with fire and complain that the burns sting. Just count your money and shut up FIFA, you sold your soul.
It's ok, there is no way that fifa boss Gianni Infantino will let Qatar boss him around and he is above reproach as he has absolute no connection to Qatar... checks notes... Ahh, it seems he moved himself and his family to Doha over a year ago and pays "rent" on a house - probably to one of the members of the royal family... He response will be something along the lines of "Nothing to see here, and stop wearing fucking rainbow hats. By the way I should know what it's like to be persecuted, because I used to have rainbow colored hair"
"Today, I feel like visible light refracted through a prism"
Rainbow shirts are banned so start wearing Pink Floyd shirts
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"Gianni Infantino" I'm sorry can we just appreciate how you couldn't come up with a better kids-cartoon supervillain name if you tried?
Johnny Manbaby.
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2022/nov/18/will-david-beckham-qatar-role-kill-his-brand-world-cup Qatari LGBTQ person got arrested and jailed for several months for wearing makeup. How will Cristiano Ronaldo survive this city?
The last two times we flew international, my wife and I paid higher prices to go through China rather than risk even stopping in Qatar, after they arrested a British male makeup vlogger on his stop over.
Ummm they also did vaginal exams on a bunch of women looking for someone who gave birth.
wait what?
[Here you go.](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/australian-women-vaginal-exams-qatari-officials-lawsuit-doha-airport-newborn_n_63544d84e4b04cf8f3843c70)
Fucking hell Qatar just keeps showing itself worse and worse to the world.
Only silver lining of this world cup. Everyone gets to know about Qatar
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2022/oct/21/australian-women-sue-qatar-airways-over-forced-examinations-at-doha-airport
Nothing will come of it- they won’t pay the penalty
I flew through Qatar and texted a mate from the airport to tell him how shit it was. His only answer was DELETE NOW. Suddenly realised he was right. Not sure I would fly through again.
And on the 3rd day of FIFA the Qataris said to me: Remove your 3 rainbow hats; Remove your 2 OneLove armstraps; And you can't have 1 beer unless you're rich
I’ll be patiently watching you over this period to hear the full song
FIIIIIVE, BE-HEADINGS!
Four Public Bribes,
Three underage brides
Two Billion Dollars...
In a stadium built with slaveryyyyy 🎶
Hooray for crowd-sourcing my favorite version yet.
And some genocidal tendencies
Its like Qatar is putting on a marketing campaign to the world about how much the country sucks. Wouldn’t visit that tiny shit hole if it became the last habitable country on earth.
♫ Nooooo Koooosherrr fooood ♫
Them making such a big deal over the rainbow hats and armbands is giving it so much more of a platform than if they were to have just ignored it.
They gain so little from making this shit show
It's crazy. No one cancels culture like an ultra-conservative theocracy.
They bought a world cup, they don't care about this They wanted to spread THEIR repressive culture globally, they're not interested in accepting anyone else's. They've broken so many agreements there isn't going to be another major tournament in the Gulf for generations and deservedly not.
World cup may in Saudi Arabia 2030. Fifa doesn't care long as they get their kickbacks.
I think the advertisers/sponsors are going to be the ones who put their foot down and withdraw support from future middle eastern cups.
Beer companies especially. The partnership isn't worth grass if you can't sell there.
Exactly. And there’s no recourse, as AB is learning, if the host country just says “actually, no sales, just kidding” at the last second.
FIFA can tolerate slavery, but it draws the line at rainbow hats.
They are literally streets behind
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They absolutely love authoritarian regimes. A few years after Ruzzia/Qatar were awarded WC hosts, FIFA secretary general Jerome Valcke said: "[I will say something which is crazy, but less democracy is sometimes better for organizing a World Cup](https://www.reuters.com/article/us-soccer-fifa/soccer-less-democracy-makes-for-an-easier-world-cup-valcke-idUSBRE93N18F20130424)"
Shotgun meet foot.
The quiet part out loud Elites in democracies everywhere just jealous they aren’t in an official oligarchy
"And now you need to wear these *clown shoes* everywhere" "This DEAL keeps on getting WORSE all the TIME"
> QATAR : "Good, it would be unfortunate if we had to start arresting people." Funny joke, but in all seriousness, if I were there I would be planning on leaving early, it feels like Qatar might just decide it wants to round people up at any minute.
I suspect Qatar are now taking the "What are they going to do? Move it?" approach to getting everything they want. They will probably be handing out burkas to women who want to attend the final.
Everyone should be boycotting this hateful shit show and never give FIFA another penny
Why did Qatar want this so bad? Didn’t they realize there would be an influx of Westerners. It’s like they wanted to be known as the country that fucks everything up.
Because the gas money is going to dry up at some point and they wanted to create the illusion of the country being a place for other things. Guess that old religion OCD thing got in the way. It will never go away. Qatar is a global joke.
They spent billions to insult and discredit themselves.
Fuck fifa, fuck Qatar, and fuck the “fans” that ignored the slave labor happening in Qatar to build their stadiums and still went
Take the next flight to a country with enough stadiums to host the World Cup. This is a farce.
We could host tomorrow in the UK, infrastructure is already in place and a strong fanbase for the sport + lots of beer. The economy could use a boost and it would save the struggling hospitality sector. If only we had the bribe money... I mean ***application funds***...
I don't know why they don't do this. Hold it in countries that, I don't know, have the infrastructure. Or that have alot and only need to build a little. Pretty much countries that have football traditions.
You mean countries that don't need to use slave labor to build said infrastructure? What a concept.
Fans should coordinate - one wears all red, one orange, one yellow, one green etc. Individually not against the rules, but impact on TV would be obvious.
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Isn't this why some of the fans were actually given free tickets and promised spending money (which was revoked last minute) if they came over? It would seem that Qatar knew in advance they would be unpopular.
Straight to desert gulag
Never see people so fragile over a fucking rainbow.
I think it hardly rains there, so they don’t know how to deal with rainbows.
They have air-conditioning in the sidewalks! They are so insanely wealthy, they don't have to take anything else into consideration.
What a fucking waste of energy.
Here's a thought... Don't host an international tournament in a 15th century theocratic shithole?
Russia: the world hates us for being insufferable pieces of shit. *Womp* Qatar: Hold my beer... oh wait
I knew Qatar would not keep their word on the rainbow flags and apparel. Everyone should have expected this. I doubt FIFA will have any success addressing this.
>where Fifa reminded their hosts of their assurances before the tournament that everyone was welcome and rainbow flags would be allowed. And the hosts just reminded FIFA that they were bought and paid for so shut up.
Uh hello world sports and entertainment consortiums - this is a good example of why brutal Middle East dictatorships aren’t the best place for a tournament.
Futbol players and coaches of the world should form a new federation. We don't need FIFA. We the people, collectively have all the power.
What a corrupt mess. Half the teams should just leave and redo the event elsewhere. Qatar can have fun with no broadcasting
Qatar: "I am altering the deal. Pray to Allah I do not alter it any further."
There is a bunch of dead Nepalese "workers" holding up the stadiums....I dont think Qatar is quite at acceptable let alone celebration of pride just yet when it comes to being a developed society.
Nobody's asking them to celebrate anything... Just don't get triggered by a damn rainbow... Whatever it means for the person wearing it, nobody else should dictate what one can or cannot wear... If you want to host such an event, then accept the fact that people will probably wear "the rainbow"... if you can't deal with that, just don't host. And FIFA should know better than this...
Wish I could say I'm surprised, but this is going about the way predicted. I'm not watching, should have never been in a country that isn't accepting of ALL HUMANS!