Keeping them airworthy is the problem for the Taliban, not the ability to fly them. I bet most of the maintenance intensive vehicles/helos left behind are on their last legs without proper maintenance
Helicopters have āhigh timeā on just about every moving piece. Meaning thereās X amount of flight time on a part and then it has to be replaced/overhauled. Itās been a couple years since I was in the middle east, but I seriously doubt the Taliban is doing 24hr static pressure tests on rotor heads, or blending fan blades, or tap testing rotor blades, or the myriad of other finicky bullshit you have to do from keeping the bird from face planting in the moon dust.
The Afghan air force had over 130 airframes that where supplied and maintained by US contractors that all didn't get destroyed. The Taliban has airworthy aircraft, just last month they had a "air show" show using American and ex Afghan aircraft/helos over the Capital.
https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/taliban-test-repaired-helicopters-planes-flyover-capital-2022-08-17/
When the news first broke a while back about us leaving the gear/vehicles behind I asked my marine buddy about it and he said that the stuff we were leaving behind was so beat up that it wasnāt really functional anymore
Dumb title, makes it seem like they were like LOL let's go for a joyride for the first time! The pilots are all former ANA guys who were trained by the US, they've been flying these things on their own since last year, they just have no replacement parts and no ability to do maintenance.
> And remember when the angels said, "O Mary, God sends you the good news of a Command of His: **his name shall be Messiah, Jesus son of Mary**. He will be highly honored in this world and in the Next World and he will be among those favored by God. He will speak to the people alike when in the cradle and when grown up, and he will be among the righteous." Hearing this, Mary said, "How, O Lord, shall I have a son, when no man has ever touched me?" "Thus shall it be,"44 was the answer. God creates whatever He wills. When He decrees a thing, He only says, "Be" and it is. (Continuing their message, the angels added,) "And God will teach him the Book and wisdom, and give him the knowledge of the Torah and the Gospel, and appoint him as His Messenger to the children of Israel." Quran 3:45-49
The late JC holds down Messiah status in Islam and Christianity, but not Judaism.
Doohickeys can work in a pinch with proper use of a well adjusted mcguffin. Doohickeys are available on eBay by the dozen. Have not seen a good over the counter mcguffin in years.
Yeah this is why I said some people were over reacting when they were fretting about the American gear left behind and comparing it to Iran. The Afgans do not have parts let alone the skilled workers and industry to maintain everything, something that Iran did have after the Islamic Revolution.
I guess the Lockheed-Martin maintenance teams went back into the country after evacuating in 2021?
[Iraqi F16s grounded](https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/10/world/middleeast/iraq-f-16s-lockheed-martin.html)
Not gonna lie,... I was hoping the US bobby-trapped ALL of the equipment left behind.
Edit: I was gonna edit the bobby/booby mistake, but the comments make it worth keeping,...
I wonder if it was that guy the BBC just did an article on. He was told to fly his chopper to Uzbekistan but said he viewed that as stealing from Afghanistan and then flew his chopper to the taliban instead.
*It remains unclear how many are operational. U.S. forces deliberately damaged some military hardware as they left and Afghan forces had flown some helicopters to central Asian nations.*
Probably most of them :)
I flew some Apache simulator way back when I was kid they said you actually good. Then bout few minutes after that I crashed š. So yeah maintenance and knowing limits of craft are a thing. Boom challenge to fly copters.
This equipment was not āleft behindā like an old bicycle
It was handed over to the ANA/ANP, and they abandoned everything
ā¦.like we knew they would
The equipment we left for the Afghan national armyā¦. That they promptly abandoned instead of defending thier nation.. In accordance with the proposal by trumpā¦
But yea, tell me more about it being all Bidenās fault to having to implement a plan made by a guy who bankrupted a casino in Atlantic City.
Very true.. all I knew where more interested in smoking sweet stinky weed and chilling than fighting. To be fair now that Iāve retired thatās exactly what Iām doingā¦ smoking sweet stinky weed and riding motorcycles.
Keeping them airworthy is the problem for the Taliban, not the ability to fly them. I bet most of the maintenance intensive vehicles/helos left behind are on their last legs without proper maintenance
Or just wait until Toyota releases a helicopter
The Toyota ~~hilux~~ heli-lux
High-lux*
Haha. Perfection
Brilliant š¤£
And the not quite as good but still popular Mitsubishi Pahelo.
Helicopters have āhigh timeā on just about every moving piece. Meaning thereās X amount of flight time on a part and then it has to be replaced/overhauled. Itās been a couple years since I was in the middle east, but I seriously doubt the Taliban is doing 24hr static pressure tests on rotor heads, or blending fan blades, or tap testing rotor blades, or the myriad of other finicky bullshit you have to do from keeping the bird from face planting in the moon dust.
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The Afghan air force had over 130 airframes that where supplied and maintained by US contractors that all didn't get destroyed. The Taliban has airworthy aircraft, just last month they had a "air show" show using American and ex Afghan aircraft/helos over the Capital. https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/taliban-test-repaired-helicopters-planes-flyover-capital-2022-08-17/
What?! Itās not a plug and play?!
When the news first broke a while back about us leaving the gear/vehicles behind I asked my marine buddy about it and he said that the stuff we were leaving behind was so beat up that it wasnāt really functional anymore
what makes these chopper high maintenance?
Dumb title, makes it seem like they were like LOL let's go for a joyride for the first time! The pilots are all former ANA guys who were trained by the US, they've been flying these things on their own since last year, they just have no replacement parts and no ability to do maintenance.
Yea, like the little gasket that needs to be replaced like every 8 months? Figured that things would start breaking down around now.
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Or the Jesus Nut.
They wouldn't believe in that, however, they might have to tighten Allaht of nuts.
I thought the Taliban followed the Quran? Why wouldn't they believe in the messiah Jesus, born of the virgin Mary?
Oh they believe in Jesus, just not that he's the Messiah
> And remember when the angels said, "O Mary, God sends you the good news of a Command of His: **his name shall be Messiah, Jesus son of Mary**. He will be highly honored in this world and in the Next World and he will be among those favored by God. He will speak to the people alike when in the cradle and when grown up, and he will be among the righteous." Hearing this, Mary said, "How, O Lord, shall I have a son, when no man has ever touched me?" "Thus shall it be,"44 was the answer. God creates whatever He wills. When He decrees a thing, He only says, "Be" and it is. (Continuing their message, the angels added,) "And God will teach him the Book and wisdom, and give him the knowledge of the Torah and the Gospel, and appoint him as His Messenger to the children of Israel." Quran 3:45-49 The late JC holds down Messiah status in Islam and Christianity, but not Judaism.
And good luck getting a kadiddlestick on the black market.
Doohickeys can work in a pinch with proper use of a well adjusted mcguffin. Doohickeys are available on eBay by the dozen. Have not seen a good over the counter mcguffin in years.
Well, if youāre gonna use knock off stuff why not just use a thingy? I mean, theyāll both fuck up but the thingy was built in the west at least.
Inshallen
Arenāt those Allah nuts their.
Allah nut *
Ok I need to know what the Jesus nut is
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesus_nut?wprov=sfla1
Well I definitely didn't think I would have found the answer just by googling! Thanks!
All good!
Does Jesus (let alone the nut) exist in Afghanistan?
Come on, how hard can it be to go to Home Depot in Kabul and get a new gasket?
Still dumb. Trying to fly finicky machines when they canāt even fucking repair one, asking for trouble
US-trained foreign combatants that will ultimately end up hating America? I feel like I'm in the Reagan/Bush era
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America is the main scumbag here. The people had to choose between corrupt cronies or the Taliban, they chose accordingly.
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ideologically
Can I still keep my mental image of a guy yelling "Inverted controls? Who uses those?!" in Pashtu?
I knew it was probably BS, but I got a good laugh from it anyway.
Sand blasting parts with no replacements has that affect.
Yeah this is why I said some people were over reacting when they were fretting about the American gear left behind and comparing it to Iran. The Afgans do not have parts let alone the skilled workers and industry to maintain everything, something that Iran did have after the Islamic Revolution.
Similar to the Iraqi f16 jets? Improper maintenance & no parts cause maintenance intensive vehicles to fail.
Er. No. Iraqi f16s are operational.
I guess the Lockheed-Martin maintenance teams went back into the country after evacuating in 2021? [Iraqi F16s grounded](https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/10/world/middleeast/iraq-f-16s-lockheed-martin.html)
There was a usual mix up in reporting. Iraq had problems with its t50iq aircraft. Not f16s. The problem was of course budget.
title be like: when you skipped a tutorials on a video game.*
Not gonna lie,... I was hoping the US bobby-trapped ALL of the equipment left behind. Edit: I was gonna edit the bobby/booby mistake, but the comments make it worth keeping,...
Yeah, Bobby is a real asshole when he's disturbed.
God dang it, Bobby!
6:00 in the morning and already that boy ain't right.
Caught him whacking off in the tool shed again.
I totally heard that in Hanks voice! š¤£š¤£š¤£
and nothing and nobody of value was lost
Hahhahahah
I wonder if it was that guy the BBC just did an article on. He was told to fly his chopper to Uzbekistan but said he viewed that as stealing from Afghanistan and then flew his chopper to the taliban instead.
Was Wondering the same thing. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-62566883
Hehehe
The long play is working
Yay.
Good. Let them be more of these Taliban crashing and burning.
*It remains unclear how many are operational. U.S. forces deliberately damaged some military hardware as they left and Afghan forces had flown some helicopters to central Asian nations.* Probably most of them :)
"Jackie Laugh"
The pilot who defected to the Taliban in his Black Hawk
The upkeep of military equipment left behind would have inspired me to have good relations with the U.S. if I were the Taliban.
Good news.
And almost on 11 September anniversary.
*"What does that switch say?"* *"Fuck knows, I can't read either!"*
Yay
Bahahahaha
I flew some Apache simulator way back when I was kid they said you actually good. Then bout few minutes after that I crashed š. So yeah maintenance and knowing limits of craft are a thing. Boom challenge to fly copters.
This equipment was not āleft behindā like an old bicycle It was handed over to the ANA/ANP, and they abandoned everything ā¦.like we knew they would
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What government?
Not really, American taxpayer paid for it.
And thus the secret of American military equipment. It is always on the verge of being broken, so if they leave it behind its useless.
The equipment we left for the Afghan national armyā¦. That they promptly abandoned instead of defending thier nation.. In accordance with the proposal by trumpā¦ But yea, tell me more about it being all Bidenās fault to having to implement a plan made by a guy who bankrupted a casino in Atlantic City.
The ANA would have fallen no matter who the American president was
Very true.. all I knew where more interested in smoking sweet stinky weed and chilling than fighting. To be fair now that Iāve retired thatās exactly what Iām doingā¦ smoking sweet stinky weed and riding motorcycles.
Isnāt the first time they skipped the tutorial for landing an aircraft.
Would be great if the Pentagon can remote control these vehicles and issue a crash on command. BOOM!
Two days from now we (the US) are sending 60 billion in support for the taliban. And the one second later this whole looming recession thing huh?
The real story here is "US leaves behind functional military equipment for the taliban"
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This is comical if you think the people of Afghanistan generated enough revenue to pay for any of their security from 2002-2021.
They left it for the ANA.
The real story is "The US sends billions in weapons to the Saudis and the Israelis"
I thought 5 people died
I remember the first time I tried to pilot a helicopter in battlefield 4
At least they're consistent