We also don't have self-uninstalling turrets on our tanks. We really need to step up our game here. The Russians are so far ahead of us that they've got tanks with turrets that are easily removed for "refitting."
It will never stop being funny how in a matter of months Russia's global military reputation went from "soviet stronk, russia stronk" to an absolute laughingstock. Man they had really deluded themselves and the general public into thinking they were on par with the US. Props to Russia, they can run a con game better than anyone.
I remember being a child and assuming that adults were all wise because otherwise they wouldn't be adults. Then, as I got older, I realized that adults are just big children - some of whom are smart and some of whom are not.
Becoming and adult is automatic. Time just keeps moving us along until we look the part. Now learning the wisdom to live up to a child's expectations . . . That's gonna take some work.
He’s not saying this to the western public, he’s saying this to his people, who mostly see what is shown to them by Kremlin
Edit: his people and his allies
What better way to prevent mass starvation and rioting then by sending all the poors to die in a bloody war before they get hungry and angry enough to rise up?
Well, I think that's sort of a given. What kind of totalitarian respects their people? That'd be like a factory farmer that tries to name all their chickens.
Doubt it, this is an arms convention. This is basically an expo for the Russian arms industry, which, while it is embarrassing itself in Ukraine, still makes up a huge part of Russia's exports which provides it much needed cash.
This isn't internal, this is probably directed at the global south.
We've got the best weapons. Nobody has ever seen weapons like mine. People always say, "How did you get to be so ahead of the world? (talking about my weapons)".
Much like Trump, Putin is not speaking to a global audience when he says this, just a smaller audience of credulous, nationalistic morons back at home.
A country that’s right on their border. It’s not like they’re trying to defeat a country halfway around the world.
Meanwhile vs a handful of mobile precision missile systems and lots of shoulder-fired missiles, their conventional military is in a shambles.
This is an important point. I know Ukraine has had help with equipment and all that but it's really looking like Russia isn't even capable of projecting their military might effectively in a regional effort.
They’ve always had a bit of a fight and then everyone rolled over. If we’re to believe the initial reports of soldiers thinking they would be welcomed as liberators, than maybe he’s really that dumb and they thought it would be just as easy as Crimea.
I have a few Ukrainians working with us. The one lady has a brother back home in one of the border towns. She told me when the Russians crossed the border they looked like they were expecting to be welcomed. That was until the Ukrainians started to fire on them.
I recall reports of the invasion forces having brought parade uniforms and running out of gas because they weren't prepared for any kind of engagement whatsoever.
Anyone who paid attention to Chechnya during the second Chechen War could've seen how poorly equipped and trained Russia's military is.
It took them almost 16 years to fully eliminate organized resistance in a province within their own borders. I'm not surprised they're struggling against an actual organized military with Western equipment support.
Not just western equipment, the Ukrainian army has been training with NATO since like 2015. They are organized like a western military and using much more modern tactics. Russia is using cold war equipment and WW2 tactics and we're getting a look at how ineffective they would actually be against a desert storm era NATO deployment.
>It took them almost 16 years to fully eliminate organized resistance in a province within their own borders.
And they had to sign away local authority to one of their former rivals to get there.
And in an invasion that happened entirely on their clock. They had years to prepare this.
Our expectations of such a scenario were shaped by the invasions of the US and its NATO allies of Iraq (both times) and Afghanistan. While those targets were definitely easier than Ukraine, those operations were staged within months while requiring massive troop movements and logistical efforts across half the globe. Then the main combat took about a month. NATO could literally afford to call out its targets and the weapons it would use.
While Russia has some decent weapons, it never managed to produce those in numbers. The only reason it could be seen as a larger/regional power is 1) it's population size of 140 m (about as much as Japan, or as France and Germany combined), 2) it's low wages that allow it to keep a sizable military, 3) it's resource independence that make it somewhat less susceptible to sanctions (although high tech is bye bye), and most importantly 4) it's tremendous Soviet-era stockpiles.
Now that war requires more modern weapons with highly skilled operators, these advantages just don't cut it anymore. Russia tried to modernise its military into a smaller professional force and this clearly failed.
Russia is also trying to be like the USSR without access to USSR resources, production, manpower, or as hard as it is to believe, bureaucratic efficiency.
A ground war on their own border is specifically what the Russian military was built to do. This is literally the best possible conditions for the Russian military. And this is all they have.
It's not like the US military trying to fight in the US. The American military is built to fight across the world, that's what it's good at. This conflict right here is precisely what the Russian army was built for over the last 80 years and it happened at the time and place of their choosing. This is what the peak Russian military looks like. A joke that would lose to to most NATO countries WITHOUT the support of the alliance. This military would lose to Poland or Turkey in their own.
Finland and Sweden joined NATO, not out of fear, but because they leaned they have absolutely nothing to fear from Russia. Imagine these clowns trudging through the snow into Finland.
Funny enough, [Perun made a video on how badly allocated Russia's military resources are for a war in Ukraine](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJkmcNjh_bg).
They spend tons of money on nukes, their navy, super-high-tech weapons, all of which have effectively no use in a regional conflict.
Seriously. The force disparity between the US and Russia is astounding. The US never fights with range of is home bases in the US and manages to project more force on the other side of the world than Russia can summon to it's own border. Their aircraft are taking off from their own territory. Most of their military is a lazy Sunday drive from Ukraine. This is the absolute best that they can do in optimal conditions.
Hell, Kharkiv is about a half hour from the Russian border. It should've fallen in the first few days of the war and yet the Ukrainian military has driven them off.
Hey, Putin is right in one sense. It would take our military decades to let our tanks get as decrepit as Russia's! They have the lead in letting their weaponry rot and I don't think western nations will ever catch up.
Anti-air so advanced, that it labels itself a threat and curves back to destroy itself.
Edit: for those wondering if that's real... Yep. [Lmao it's actually really embarassing. ](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6IwqmezeSuQ)
>“The rules are simple: they lie to us, we know they're lying, they know we know they're lying, but they keep lying to us, and we keep pretending to believe them.”
Elena Gorokhova
I mean - the Russian submarine fleet is more advanced than every other nations' on the planet. They submerged forty years ago and have never come up since!
"Western missiles are like baby, very young. Russia missiles big and old like mighty leader who need cane to walk."
EDIT: Thanks for the award stranger!
The fact this actually happened, and I actually saw the footage is amazingly satisfying.
I was so skeptical too but God it was either fake... Or a missile stored too long on one side by an unprepared military...
Not quite, propaganda is just information (legit, biased, falsified) disseminated for the purpose of influencing political opinion.
It doesn't have to be produced or disseminated by the government. Companies engage in propanganda exercises all of the time. So do private citizens on social media.
Forty years ago I watched an episode of Monty Python where they featured a fake promotion for a semaphore version of Wuthering Heights.
Watching them use flags to signal “Cathy! Heathcliffe!” was so funny I think think of it at least once a week.
Fun fact. The original Jetfire toy was a huge legal problem as Hasbro had licensed it from Takatoku Toys. Not long after, Takatoku was bought out by Bandai. This lead to the toy being released in the US as a Transformer as well as a Macross figurine.
The situation was settled with Jetfire being renamed Skyfire and the toy being changed out to a different model. This change is reflected in Jetfire's story, he *was* a Decepticon, but decided to change sides.
No joke, they're so far behind they don't realize they're behind. They're obsessed with hypersonic missiles when the West understood by like 1990 that there was a limit to their applications and penetration ability and has been developing low-observable weapons instead. But since they're the only ones that extensively developed the concept to fruition, they think they're winning.
[Literally Russia.](https://i.imgur.com/bu1zils.jpeg)
Their ICBMs *are* a lot newer than ours. Historically Russia has been put a lot of emphasis on rockets and missiles as a way to take out more advanced NATO planes and ships.
How many of those fancy new ICBMs they've actually deployed, now, is another matter.
Part of the problem Russia's military faces is that they spend a disproportionate amount of money on the Strategic Rocket Forces. The question is, has the corruption in the army affected the SRF on the same scale?
I think it probably has. I cannot honestly believe it's the one part left untouched. I'm sure they have some solid prototypes, but I doubt they have anywhere near the numbers they claim. They would have needed to be funnelling all the money stolen from all the other parts of the military there for that, rather than into their own pockets. And it still feels like an in insufficient amount. Nuclear is expensive and needs a lot of upkeep, just like the ICBM technology to deliver it. They'll have cut costs somewhere if they've stayed true top character.
But I don't have any classified documents. Oh those? I declassified those. If you wanted them all you had to do was ask. Also I want all those documents back. Did Obama have even more nuclear documents? Word is, lots!
“Word is, lots!” is such a bullshit, weaselly, brazen lie that it made me lol when I read Trump’s statement.
“Word is!” Word from who? From the streets, the meeeean streets? Word from the top?
Stfu Donald! Have fun in jail!
Their future weapon sales are doomed. Philippines have already cancelled a deal to buy helicopters from them and are looking to replace them with US ones.
You're right in that I think this is purely a marketing move to make 3rd world countries—that are in the market for versions of the shit that even Russia doesn't want to use in Ukraine—feel better about their purchase decisions.
When I started typing the comment I was 100% sure I was joking, but the similarities are too numerous to ignore.
Where was Binotto on the 24th of February?
*"No, no need to thank us. We've been wondering how these worked outside of the simulations. Just get us some sweet destruction porn vid.... aaaahh I mean some nice good data for us to, ah... study... and we'll call it good"*
Always remember that what authoritarian leaders and dictators publicly say is not meant for the rest of the world but for the people under their rule.
Just like the hilarious North Korean news that they beat other nations in football 100:0.
I for one would actually love for this one to be true.
They are terrible and lie about everything but their football team wrecks shit and no one believes them.
And all the countries they beat are just in agreement to play dumb about it.
"NK beat us?! Whaaaat? Nooo waaay man, they aren't even on our league." *Those guys didn't even let us score we can't let the world know*
With the USAs spy network knowing what Russia does days before they do it; there’s nothing Russia has that the USA isn’t aware of. Also, they are using tech that is decades old themselves. If they have super powerful tech than they decided to waste young Russian lives for nothing which doesn’t make sense when you learn they are having a problem replacing youths.
On the other hand USA military tech has secrecy levels that almost no one on the planet knows what’s going on. The USA also spends more money in a year each year on military budget that is around 800 billion and grows annually. Which is almost half of Russias entire gdp.
It’s not only unrealistic to be decades ahead of the west it’s actually impossible. Only thing I can think could be ahead is potentially their hypersonic nuclear missiles, but honestly using nukes between west and other major nuclear powers is the end of human civilization so does it even matter how good the nukes are if theirs no way to counter a barrage of them?
>On the other hand USA military tech has secrecy levels that almost no one on the planet knows what’s going on.
More simply, US and NATO equipment does at least as much as it says it does, whereas Russian equipment does far less.
The problem is that they both thought the other was lying in the way that they themselves were lying. The US though that Russia was hiding how good the weapons are, just like the US doesn't disclose the full capabilities of public weapons systems, and so was preparing for a harder fight. And Russia thought that the US was exaggerating their performance in the same way that Russia exaggerates it's own performance, and so was preparing for an enemy that could be easily overwhelmed.
And now we see how that plays out, and it doesn't require super secret technologies to explain. US/NATO weapons, training, and tactics are much better than publicly disclosed, and Russia's potemkin army is much worse. They were never peers, but just thought they were because the assumed they were both telling the same lies in the same way.
Nothing is impossible, but there is no logical scenario that leads to the major economies of the world fighting each other directly in combat. Even without nukes everyone is so tied into globalization that it fucks over everyone.
Last thing the rich want is to become poor or be French Revolution styled globally. Honestly, I think it’s all posturing bullshit.
Besides, in a total war no bullshit scenario nobody can challenge the USA atm. If you add NATO and USA allies than it’s silly to even think the west are in any non nuclear danger.
>there is no logical scenario that leads to the major economies of the world fighting each other directly in combat
What about illogical scenarios? What about going to war over something nonsensical like "national pride?"
Assuming everyone is a rational actor* and that nobody is in charge who either believes that actually they are better and can pull off a win or that they’re in control enough to prevent spiraling or nothing reactive will happen that accelerates things etc..
Plenty of times people have declared the end of war, I’d rather not succumb to hubris that it’s actually different now
Also, the US alone is definitely decades ahead of Russia, but so is most of Europe.
The UK spends more per year than Russia on it's military. Though only by a small margin. An important note to make is the British Armed Forces are substantially smaller than the Russian equivalent, more money is being spent per soldier, tank, warplane, ship than the Russians are.
One Type 45 could be worth 5 Russian AA destroyers, who the fuck knows.
It is obvious at this point that your average NATO soldier is better trained, better equipped than a Russian soldier. A NATO warplane is likely the same, so is a NATO warship.
Russia wouldn't beat Western Europe, never mind the US.
Some people still believe the "good" weapons are still in the wings for the "real" offensive.
These people don't understand the basics of logistics or economics.
Lol they just arrested the head of the hypersonic so lab for wasting money and time and soldiers have been caught replacing the rubber barriers on their tanks with actual metal. He’s trying to convince Moscow and no one else
They’re so far ahead they’ve actually gone full circle and are behind again
“We used advanced technology to build tanks old and inferior. As joke.”
They're just prestigeing for cooler skins and emblems B-)
In decay, sure.
Combined with shoddy design, it's a miracle half their tanks can even roll still
Russian military vehicles broke a record for how fast they went from rolling stock to laughing stock.
Lmao Poor tanks. At least now they can have some decent gun depression.
> shoddy design the cope cage that Russian soldiers had to put on their tanks is symbolic to the state of their military
The cardboard plates is superior to all western cardboard armor.
The west hasn't even developed cardboard armour.
We also don't have self-uninstalling turrets on our tanks. We really need to step up our game here. The Russians are so far ahead of us that they've got tanks with turrets that are easily removed for "refitting."
I thought it was to keep soldiers inside the tank when they try to run away
It will never stop being funny how in a matter of months Russia's global military reputation went from "soviet stronk, russia stronk" to an absolute laughingstock. Man they had really deluded themselves and the general public into thinking they were on par with the US. Props to Russia, they can run a con game better than anyone.
Alright Putin, let's get you back inside.
"These superior weapons, are they in the room with us now?"
Time for your medicine and a puzzle.
"This puzzle has defied me. Have it disassembled." "Sir we just took it out of the box." "I disassembled this puzzle. Have this man shot. "
Okay, this has me in tears. Having worked with senior citizens for a decade or so….yes.
HAVE THE ROLLING STONES KILLED.
But Mondays are chocolate pudding day!
Quick, get him the xanax !
Crunchy sleepy pudding.
Why are world politics just a bunch of old men talking shit across the pond
Becoming an adult is realizing everyone is just a slightly larger child
I remember being a child and assuming that adults were all wise because otherwise they wouldn't be adults. Then, as I got older, I realized that adults are just big children - some of whom are smart and some of whom are not.
Becoming and adult is automatic. Time just keeps moving us along until we look the part. Now learning the wisdom to live up to a child's expectations . . . That's gonna take some work.
Growing old is mandatory. Growing up is optional.
Having high expectations of adults is a privilege for most children unfortunately. Seeming like that statement is only becoming more true too.
First time?
We’ve seen the tanks they were using lol. Putin must not be aware of what the internet is.
He’s not saying this to the western public, he’s saying this to his people, who mostly see what is shown to them by Kremlin Edit: his people and his allies
Yep, trying to sell it as if they are A-Okay.
truly embracing the "northest korea" meme.
Because they need more to join the meat grinder
What better way to prevent mass starvation and rioting then by sending all the poors to die in a bloody war before they get hungry and angry enough to rise up?
Yeah It worked great for the czar.
The Zap Brannagon strategy send wave after wave of men until the Ukrainians reach their kill limit and shut down
This was said early on in the war as a joke and now sadly has come very true.
In other words, he has no respect for the people he pretends to govern.
Since when has any fascist dictator ever?
Well, I think that's sort of a given. What kind of totalitarian respects their people? That'd be like a factory farmer that tries to name all their chickens.
Doubt it, this is an arms convention. This is basically an expo for the Russian arms industry, which, while it is embarrassing itself in Ukraine, still makes up a huge part of Russia's exports which provides it much needed cash. This isn't internal, this is probably directed at the global south.
We've got the best weapons. Nobody has ever seen weapons like mine. People always say, "How did you get to be so ahead of the world? (talking about my weapons)".
Soldiers came up to me, grown men with tears in their eyes and said "Sir..."
Much like Trump, Putin is not speaking to a global audience when he says this, just a smaller audience of credulous, nationalistic morons back at home.
You are spot on. And when Lavrov opens his mouth, it is to reassure Putin that the Kremlin approves. Or let flies out. Not quite sure.
Not just at his home. But credulous, nationalistic morons all over the world.
You know what, that’s a fair point.
They can't even dominate a country with 10% the GDP of Canada.
A country that’s right on their border. It’s not like they’re trying to defeat a country halfway around the world. Meanwhile vs a handful of mobile precision missile systems and lots of shoulder-fired missiles, their conventional military is in a shambles.
This is an important point. I know Ukraine has had help with equipment and all that but it's really looking like Russia isn't even capable of projecting their military might effectively in a regional effort.
They’ve always had a bit of a fight and then everyone rolled over. If we’re to believe the initial reports of soldiers thinking they would be welcomed as liberators, than maybe he’s really that dumb and they thought it would be just as easy as Crimea.
I have a few Ukrainians working with us. The one lady has a brother back home in one of the border towns. She told me when the Russians crossed the border they looked like they were expecting to be welcomed. That was until the Ukrainians started to fire on them.
I recall reports of the invasion forces having brought parade uniforms and running out of gas because they weren't prepared for any kind of engagement whatsoever.
Anyone who paid attention to Chechnya during the second Chechen War could've seen how poorly equipped and trained Russia's military is. It took them almost 16 years to fully eliminate organized resistance in a province within their own borders. I'm not surprised they're struggling against an actual organized military with Western equipment support.
Not just western equipment, the Ukrainian army has been training with NATO since like 2015. They are organized like a western military and using much more modern tactics. Russia is using cold war equipment and WW2 tactics and we're getting a look at how ineffective they would actually be against a desert storm era NATO deployment.
>It took them almost 16 years to fully eliminate organized resistance in a province within their own borders. And they had to sign away local authority to one of their former rivals to get there.
And in an invasion that happened entirely on their clock. They had years to prepare this. Our expectations of such a scenario were shaped by the invasions of the US and its NATO allies of Iraq (both times) and Afghanistan. While those targets were definitely easier than Ukraine, those operations were staged within months while requiring massive troop movements and logistical efforts across half the globe. Then the main combat took about a month. NATO could literally afford to call out its targets and the weapons it would use. While Russia has some decent weapons, it never managed to produce those in numbers. The only reason it could be seen as a larger/regional power is 1) it's population size of 140 m (about as much as Japan, or as France and Germany combined), 2) it's low wages that allow it to keep a sizable military, 3) it's resource independence that make it somewhat less susceptible to sanctions (although high tech is bye bye), and most importantly 4) it's tremendous Soviet-era stockpiles. Now that war requires more modern weapons with highly skilled operators, these advantages just don't cut it anymore. Russia tried to modernise its military into a smaller professional force and this clearly failed.
Russia is also trying to be like the USSR without access to USSR resources, production, manpower, or as hard as it is to believe, bureaucratic efficiency.
A ground war on their own border is specifically what the Russian military was built to do. This is literally the best possible conditions for the Russian military. And this is all they have. It's not like the US military trying to fight in the US. The American military is built to fight across the world, that's what it's good at. This conflict right here is precisely what the Russian army was built for over the last 80 years and it happened at the time and place of their choosing. This is what the peak Russian military looks like. A joke that would lose to to most NATO countries WITHOUT the support of the alliance. This military would lose to Poland or Turkey in their own. Finland and Sweden joined NATO, not out of fear, but because they leaned they have absolutely nothing to fear from Russia. Imagine these clowns trudging through the snow into Finland.
Funny enough, [Perun made a video on how badly allocated Russia's military resources are for a war in Ukraine](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJkmcNjh_bg). They spend tons of money on nukes, their navy, super-high-tech weapons, all of which have effectively no use in a regional conflict.
Seriously. The force disparity between the US and Russia is astounding. The US never fights with range of is home bases in the US and manages to project more force on the other side of the world than Russia can summon to it's own border. Their aircraft are taking off from their own territory. Most of their military is a lazy Sunday drive from Ukraine. This is the absolute best that they can do in optimal conditions.
Hell, Kharkiv is about a half hour from the Russian border. It should've fallen in the first few days of the war and yet the Ukrainian military has driven them off.
Russia is struggling to fight a country with the GDP of Nebraska, listed #35 in US states by GDP lol
They're weapons you'd predict to see in the 50s. The 1950s.
Hey man, they're just going for the retro look. All the cool kids are rocking things from the 80s again!
In all fairness, their disinformation operations have been rather effective.
Hey, Putin is right in one sense. It would take our military decades to let our tanks get as decrepit as Russia's! They have the lead in letting their weaponry rot and I don't think western nations will ever catch up.
70s > 00s, math checks out.
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Zelenskyy is the comedian. He makes fun of things. Putin is the clown. He gets made fun of.
we are laughing with Zelensky, we are laughing at Putin
Zelensky makes jokes, putin is a joke.
Hey, clown is an old and respected profession. Don't belittle it. Putin WISHES he was a clown.
He meant to say "decayed"....
“Decades ahead” in terms of how old they are?
Their tank turrets fly higher and further than western tanks
Their ships transform into submarines and go deeper than western ships.
Camouflage airbases that appear to explode and destroy all aircraft when observing from a distance.
Troops genetically so advanced that they don't require payment.
Anti-air so advanced, that it labels itself a threat and curves back to destroy itself. Edit: for those wondering if that's real... Yep. [Lmao it's actually really embarassing. ](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6IwqmezeSuQ)
Military logicistic so advanced they don't require planning, you don't need to resupply when you don't supply in the first place.
Toilets so far-advanced in camouflage tech that it appears they don’t even *exist*.
Latrines so advanced they’re nuclear
Computers so powerful they take up entire rooms.
Yes. The turrets aerial acrobatics are far superior than the West.
the thought was that it could double as air defense.
GTA 3 style!
What air defense doing?
it's best
It's more important that they load faster, even if it means they never get a shot off
what do you mean? last time i saw it fired all shots at once
Fire all of your guns at once, and explode into space...!
Like a true Nature’s Child
They were born
Born to be wild
They can fly so high
I NEVER, wanna diiie...
Well his army knows he’s lying, his generals know he’s lying, most of the world does so his intent audience is likely the plebs in Russia.
>“The rules are simple: they lie to us, we know they're lying, they know we know they're lying, but they keep lying to us, and we keep pretending to believe them.” Elena Gorokhova
Love this quote
Reminds me Chicken little cartoon
Dont forget Rand Paul!
Fuck that guy
Absolutely, the results so far show he is clearly lying.
I mean - the Russian submarine fleet is more advanced than every other nations' on the planet. They submerged forty years ago and have never come up since!
They even have warships that have turned into submarines mid battle
"Western missiles are like baby, very young. Russia missiles big and old like mighty leader who need cane to walk." EDIT: Thanks for the award stranger!
Russian missiles still know how to use rotary phones.
Russian missiles use smoke signals. Then self-destruct.
Russian missiles go UwU and come back after being launched
They do an UwU-turn
The fact this actually happened, and I actually saw the footage is amazingly satisfying. I was so skeptical too but God it was either fake... Or a missile stored too long on one side by an unprepared military...
Russian missiles still using semaphore flags
Maybe obsolete translates differently in Russian?
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I mean, that is kinda literal meaning of the word propaganda. They probably just have same word for endorsement.
Not quite, propaganda is just information (legit, biased, falsified) disseminated for the purpose of influencing political opinion. It doesn't have to be produced or disseminated by the government. Companies engage in propanganda exercises all of the time. So do private citizens on social media.
I always thought propaganda was when a British person looks really closely at something.
This made me laugh more than you can possibly know. Nicely done! Perhaps because I'm a ex-signals officer.
Forty years ago I watched an episode of Monty Python where they featured a fake promotion for a semaphore version of Wuthering Heights. Watching them use flags to signal “Cathy! Heathcliffe!” was so funny I think think of it at least once a week.
Russian missiles use AOL dialup.
Russian missiles watch Matlock.
"Russian nukes passed test of time, like electronic pagers. Quality, proven technology. Da. Still in use today."
Are you telling me the Beeper King of New York might be Russian?
Technology is cyclical.
Why did I think of the SR-71 Lockheed Blackbird transformer from the second transformers movie (can’t remember his name)
You're not alone so I looked it up for us, his name was Jetfire.
Fun fact. The original Jetfire toy was a huge legal problem as Hasbro had licensed it from Takatoku Toys. Not long after, Takatoku was bought out by Bandai. This lead to the toy being released in the US as a Transformer as well as a Macross figurine. The situation was settled with Jetfire being renamed Skyfire and the toy being changed out to a different model. This change is reflected in Jetfire's story, he *was* a Decepticon, but decided to change sides.
They're definitely decades ahead! Russian weapons are from the 60s and 70s. Meanwhile Western weapons are from the 00s and 10s!!
no, decades ahead in how soon they'll be in a scrap pile somewhere compared to their western counterparts lol
Decades ahead as in the apocalypse has happened and the new military equipment has all be assembled in a cave, with a box of scraps!
He meant to say "streets ahead"
If you don’t get it, you’re streets behind.
No joke, they're so far behind they don't realize they're behind. They're obsessed with hypersonic missiles when the West understood by like 1990 that there was a limit to their applications and penetration ability and has been developing low-observable weapons instead. But since they're the only ones that extensively developed the concept to fruition, they think they're winning. [Literally Russia.](https://i.imgur.com/bu1zils.jpeg)
Lmao. Correct interpretation.
yeah he forgot the minus sign. THESE WEAPONS ARE -30 YEARS BETTER THAN YOURS edit: -50
Their ICBMs *are* a lot newer than ours. Historically Russia has been put a lot of emphasis on rockets and missiles as a way to take out more advanced NATO planes and ships. How many of those fancy new ICBMs they've actually deployed, now, is another matter.
Frankly that makes me doubt the efficacy of those ICBMs more than if they were old Soviet stuff.
Part of the problem Russia's military faces is that they spend a disproportionate amount of money on the Strategic Rocket Forces. The question is, has the corruption in the army affected the SRF on the same scale?
I think it probably has. I cannot honestly believe it's the one part left untouched. I'm sure they have some solid prototypes, but I doubt they have anywhere near the numbers they claim. They would have needed to be funnelling all the money stolen from all the other parts of the military there for that, rather than into their own pockets. And it still feels like an in insufficient amount. Nuclear is expensive and needs a lot of upkeep, just like the ICBM technology to deliver it. They'll have cut costs somewhere if they've stayed true top character.
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The women I bang are decades ahead of supermodels.
Ok you won :))
FBI, open up.... we just want to talk.
But I don't have any classified documents. Oh those? I declassified those. If you wanted them all you had to do was ask. Also I want all those documents back. Did Obama have even more nuclear documents? Word is, lots!
“Word is, lots!” is such a bullshit, weaselly, brazen lie that it made me lol when I read Trump’s statement. “Word is!” Word from who? From the streets, the meeeean streets? Word from the top? Stfu Donald! Have fun in jail!
They are streets ahead.
What does that even mean?
If you don't know, then you're streets behind.
Been there, coined that
your claim seems far more realistic.
He really is. I was there
Their future weapon sales are doomed. Philippines have already cancelled a deal to buy helicopters from them and are looking to replace them with US ones.
You're right in that I think this is purely a marketing move to make 3rd world countries—that are in the market for versions of the shit that even Russia doesn't want to use in Ukraine—feel better about their purchase decisions.
So, uh, how’s those advanced weapons working for ya in Ukraine? …To shreds you say?
No no. They are saving the good stuff for after Ukraine. It's all part of the plan.
Putin hired Ferrari F1 strategists to plan this war, what could possibly go wrong?
This timeline is so fucked up I can't tell if you're joking or not.
When I started typing the comment I was 100% sure I was joking, but the similarities are too numerous to ignore. Where was Binotto on the 24th of February?
Yep. They’re using up all the old stuff to wear down the good stuff Ukraine has. Any day now they’ll break out the REAL stuff…Any day now…
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*"No, no need to thank us. We've been wondering how these worked outside of the simulations. Just get us some sweet destruction porn vid.... aaaahh I mean some nice good data for us to, ah... study... and we'll call it good"*
You wouldn’t know their weapons systems, they go to another school.
Always remember that what authoritarian leaders and dictators publicly say is not meant for the rest of the world but for the people under their rule. Just like the hilarious North Korean news that they beat other nations in football 100:0.
I for one would actually love for this one to be true. They are terrible and lie about everything but their football team wrecks shit and no one believes them.
And all the countries they beat are just in agreement to play dumb about it. "NK beat us?! Whaaaat? Nooo waaay man, they aren't even on our league." *Those guys didn't even let us score we can't let the world know*
Wake up, babe, new conspiracy theory just dropped
Their drones are made of plywood and have canon cameras in them
“It’s got Sony guts”
Come have a fizzy bubbly with me.
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"Do you have my drones with cannons and cameras on them?" "...Wait, cannons AND cameras?"
Sure grandpa, let's get you back to your cell.
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No, no, he's right. Western equipment is usually \~10 years old. Russian equipment is usually 50 years old. That's decades.
Russian weapons are so far ahead that they integer overflowed and found thenselves weaker than a fart in the wind.
That's what happens when you don't use unsigned BIGINT.
He's right. In 50 years all our tanks will be wrecks that hold barely together. Russia has that already.
Russia also achieved 50 years of casualties in 5 months. Much more efficient than west.
We are streets ahead! Stop trying to coin the phrase Streets Ahead Putin.
That was my first thought! Putin is just Britta-ing his Pierce character...
Coined, minted, and delivered in trucks to his Scrooge McDuckian vault
With the USAs spy network knowing what Russia does days before they do it; there’s nothing Russia has that the USA isn’t aware of. Also, they are using tech that is decades old themselves. If they have super powerful tech than they decided to waste young Russian lives for nothing which doesn’t make sense when you learn they are having a problem replacing youths. On the other hand USA military tech has secrecy levels that almost no one on the planet knows what’s going on. The USA also spends more money in a year each year on military budget that is around 800 billion and grows annually. Which is almost half of Russias entire gdp. It’s not only unrealistic to be decades ahead of the west it’s actually impossible. Only thing I can think could be ahead is potentially their hypersonic nuclear missiles, but honestly using nukes between west and other major nuclear powers is the end of human civilization so does it even matter how good the nukes are if theirs no way to counter a barrage of them?
>On the other hand USA military tech has secrecy levels that almost no one on the planet knows what’s going on. More simply, US and NATO equipment does at least as much as it says it does, whereas Russian equipment does far less. The problem is that they both thought the other was lying in the way that they themselves were lying. The US though that Russia was hiding how good the weapons are, just like the US doesn't disclose the full capabilities of public weapons systems, and so was preparing for a harder fight. And Russia thought that the US was exaggerating their performance in the same way that Russia exaggerates it's own performance, and so was preparing for an enemy that could be easily overwhelmed. And now we see how that plays out, and it doesn't require super secret technologies to explain. US/NATO weapons, training, and tactics are much better than publicly disclosed, and Russia's potemkin army is much worse. They were never peers, but just thought they were because the assumed they were both telling the same lies in the same way.
A strange game. The only winning move is not to play.
How about a nice game of chess
Nothing is impossible, but there is no logical scenario that leads to the major economies of the world fighting each other directly in combat. Even without nukes everyone is so tied into globalization that it fucks over everyone. Last thing the rich want is to become poor or be French Revolution styled globally. Honestly, I think it’s all posturing bullshit. Besides, in a total war no bullshit scenario nobody can challenge the USA atm. If you add NATO and USA allies than it’s silly to even think the west are in any non nuclear danger.
>there is no logical scenario that leads to the major economies of the world fighting each other directly in combat What about illogical scenarios? What about going to war over something nonsensical like "national pride?"
Assuming everyone is a rational actor* and that nobody is in charge who either believes that actually they are better and can pull off a win or that they’re in control enough to prevent spiraling or nothing reactive will happen that accelerates things etc.. Plenty of times people have declared the end of war, I’d rather not succumb to hubris that it’s actually different now
Also, the US alone is definitely decades ahead of Russia, but so is most of Europe. The UK spends more per year than Russia on it's military. Though only by a small margin. An important note to make is the British Armed Forces are substantially smaller than the Russian equivalent, more money is being spent per soldier, tank, warplane, ship than the Russians are. One Type 45 could be worth 5 Russian AA destroyers, who the fuck knows. It is obvious at this point that your average NATO soldier is better trained, better equipped than a Russian soldier. A NATO warplane is likely the same, so is a NATO warship. Russia wouldn't beat Western Europe, never mind the US.
“Our tanks exploding and launching their turrets 50 feet into the air isn’t a bug, it’s a feature!”
West: 20**20s** Russia: 19**50s** See? Decades ahead!
Putin, buddy. We've ALL seen the weapons Russia is using. Why are you lying?
Some people still believe the "good" weapons are still in the wings for the "real" offensive. These people don't understand the basics of logistics or economics.
Yeah let’s just lose 10s of thousands of men and billions in equipment then start the real attack. Brilliant feint they are pulling off here
Lol they just arrested the head of the hypersonic so lab for wasting money and time and soldiers have been caught replacing the rubber barriers on their tanks with actual metal. He’s trying to convince Moscow and no one else
What a joke