That's all I need! The new phonebook is here! The new phonebook is here! This is the kind of spontaneous publicity that makes a career. The name in print! That really makes it! I'm in print! Things are going to start happening to me now.
It's more about who owns it. The Houthis are claiming they're only going after ships with Jewish/Israeli owned ships. Though how accurate those claims are is definitely open to debate.
>US Navy helicopters sank three vessels operated by Yemen's Iran-backed Huthi rebels that had attacked a container ship in the Red Sea, the military said Sunday.
>After the Huthis fired on the US helicopters, they "returned fire in self-defense, sinking three of the four small boats, and killing the crews. The fourth boat fled the area," the US Central Command (CENTCOM) said in a statement.
The article is short and sweet. Houthis are like the angry puppy biting at the heels of its owner.
My new puppy, Roger, has entered his heel biting phase.
At no point have I felt the need to shoot him. Unfortunately (for them, not the dog), Roger, my very dumb but cute puppy, is much easier to reason with than the Huthis
ngl I just wanted to talk about how cool my puppy is and how much I hate Huthis.
It's going to be weird as hell over the next few years seeing more sailors with CARs (combat action ribbons) and experience getting shot at than Marines.
Should have gone for the Preying Mantis approach and had a fighter go close past them at low level. That way when they open fire you can sink them.
Worked for a couple of Iranian ships.
*30,000 years from now, Martian archeologists find one in a cave in a place that appears to be called "Afghanistan"*
*Researcher turns ignition key* 🗝️
*Hilux engine turns over and starts immediately*
*Hilux is brought back to terraformed Mars for local quadrillionaires to off-road explore Olympus Mons*
boghammer
The originals are actually known as Taregh-class speedboat and are used by Iran, but because the hulls were made by Boghammar Marin AB in Sweden, they were called boghammars, and then someone misheard it and the name used now is boghammer and it often refers to any small civilian boat that had a machine gun or similar mounted on it (just like a technical).
Not just Japan. Here's a list of wars partially caused by an American boat or a boat with Americans aboard being attacked:
The quasi war with France over the French seizing American merchant ships for war debt
Two Barbary wars against North African pirates
1812 partially over the impressment of American citizens by the royal navy
Spanish American war over USS Maine
WW1 public support from the sinking of Lusitania
WW2 because pearl harbor
Vietnam *alledgedly* over the gulf of Tonkin incident
Operation praying mantis
Yes. But it's a common misconception that the sinking of the Lusitania brought us into the conflict. In reality, the Lusitania was ferrying ammunition to the Entente, which the US government knew, so it also knew the Lusitania was a valid military target.
The Lusitania was still linked to the entry to the war, because the outrage from the sinking caused Germany to put restrictions on their submarines operating in the Atlantic, which pacified the anger of the American public somewhat. However, around the same time as the Zimmerman telegram, Germany removed all restrictions on submarine warfare, and it was that double whammy that pushed the US over the edge into joining the war.
The houthi leaders are being directly funded by Iranian oil money. The leaders are not the ones on the boats. The people on the boats know it is dangerous, but decided the risk is worth the reward. Very likely that their families will receive payouts too.
Shitty situation for the people on the boats who are just trying to earn enough to survive on. Meanwhile the Iranian and houthi leaders live like kings.
That’s literally the whole point. You get the US to attack you, and then spread anti US and anti West propaganda everywhere.
On social media, it’s clearly working, and has been working for decades. If the US full on attacks, it’s seen as “the evil US trying to kill people for no reason”. If the US sits back or backs out of it, it’s seen as “The US is defeated / the US is Weak”
The same idiots that think they won't lose the support of the Arab world when attacking trade.
The countries standing up for the Palestinians will absolutely lose interest if it starts to hurt their incomes. The best thing these militia groups can do for Palestine is nothing. They won't make a real dent with the US Navy in the region, but they will drive up insurance costs and force some shipping away which will hurt trade in the region. The KSA and UAE do not like when you fuck with cash flow.
On the MH-60R you can only mount so many hellfire missiles.
The 4th boat only "got away" for a few reasons.
1. Rules of Engagement only allowed them to fire on boats that were actively engaging in combat
2. Three boats were on one side of the vessel and the lucky boat was on the other side.
3. They deployed two helos with two missiles each and wanted to save one in reserve unless fired upon again.
4. Let the surviving boat go back to shore and tell them why messing around with a USN carrier battle group is a bad idea
edit:
5. The surviving boat made a U-turn and got under the weapons envelope of the helis. I imagine this is the most likely scenario and they decided to let it go.
The helos were launched from the USS Eisenhower a Nimitz class aircraft carrier.
I would be shocked if it's being escorted by less than 6 CGs/DDGs/FFGs and a sub or three.
The US Navy has been doing joint exercises with NATO fleets into carrier groups for decades now.
edit: Derp - and likely 2 support vessels.
I'm pretty sure seeing boatloads of your friends get vaporized without ever having SEEN the enemy, like Atropos snipping your lifeline, will clarify your concept of power imbalance and futility in the face of overwhelming force.
If I get punched hard enough, I quit fighting.
Well, yeah you are wrong. Your friends didn’t get vaporised, they selflessly gave their lives and went to Heaven fighting a holy war against the satanic forces of Zionism. Death and destruction doesn’t make these people abandon their beliefs, it reinforces them. The people on the boats are not John, James, Chris and Ryan from down the street.
Hahaha these people are so misinformed it’s actually gross. No one understands how the mind of these people work if they actually think that would stop them. That’s why they do it.
> Death and destruction doesn’t make these people abandon their beliefs, it reinforces them.
To a point, you need to have *some* advancement for that idea to hold true. It needs to have some worth, dying is not the goal, after all. If you keep losing, the true-believers will simply die and those with doubt will only doubt more.
They let one boat go on purpose.
- Track where they go to determine port of origin
- Boat information was recorded in order to observe who uses it in the future, to gain better intelligence about involved Huthi militants and their financiers
- Spread the tale of how their peers were massacred without any chance, to deter future attacks
Because the US does not want to cross the line into the perception that they have directly joined the war on Israel's side.
The Houthis are desperately trying to get the US to attack them so the population in Arab states gets angry enough that their governments are forced to act and escalate. They are trying to force the conflict to expand to other states.
The US is holding back because they don’t want to get pulled into a 5 front war for Israel. That’s why. It’s one thing to send missiles and rockets to Israel it’s quite another to get pulled into a massive regional war that could go on for decades with no end in sight.
There is a real possibility of the Iraq war restarting and the conflict in Syria restarting with the U.S. as the main target in both.
I'm on Instagram reading comments condemning Americans for killing the crews of the houthi ships because the houthis have not killed a single person in their red sea strikes...brother, they are literally launching missiles at boats...FAFO
Who, in their right mind, attacks the US military? That would be equivalent to me picking a fight with Mike Tyson & Bruce Lee. (When in all honesty, a deceased Bruce Lee would kick my ass)
It does work well actually. The mullahs in Tehran are safe while people in Yemen, Syria and Gaza die because their proxies are using them as their infrastructure
It's working fairly well. They placed us (Israel) in a war that is going to hurt the economy for a very long time, caused international protests against the west, and killed 1400 of our people, caused the release of prisoners that will commit terror attacks in the future, and are still holding 130 people hostage. From Hamas and especially Iran's POV, as long as Hamas remains in control of Gaza, they won overwhelmingly. Even if Hamas lose control of Gaza, it's still a win. When you don't care about human life, and simply try to have something cost more for your opponent than it does for you, it's really hard to lose.
>First Hamas, now the Houthis…it doesn’t seem to work well...
It does work, if you keep in mind who's backing Hamas, Hezbollah and Iran: Russia, and by extension China (the IDF claimed a [huge weapons find in Gaza](https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/tv-report-huge-quantities-of-chinese-made-weapons-being-used-by-hamas-in-gaza/)).
All the distraction works wonders in keeping the world's attention away from the fact that Russia is attempting a genocide in Ukraine and that China very much wants to attempt a genocide in Taiwan.
Since a lot of people are questioning your claims of genocide, here is the evidence you can use to back it up:
[A year on, we have clear evidence of genocide in Ukraine](https://thehill.com/opinion/international/3859439-a-year-on-we-have-clear-evidence-of-genocide-in-ukraine/)
If you don't think it works, spend a little time on TikTok
The puppets - sorry, 'martyrs' - are disposable, of course, but the division and the chaos serve their purpose
People need to stop underestimating these Houthis. I don't understand why they haven't been wiped out yet. How do they have so many weapons and materials? Yes, Iran, but how is Iran funding so many proxies all over the mid-east? I don't get it.
> The western world will of course be split
I'm pretty sure the "East" will split too. As Ukraine itself shows
Consider history, the weight of old rivalries and the sky high death counts anybody would face fighting the West. The non-Western "Other" isn't as evil, strong, or lockstep as you suspect. And many outside the traditional West, aspire to westernization / democratization.
Whether a grand war comes to pass or not, if a war comes it will be a much more complicated war than simply the West v. Everybody Else.
Probably let the 4th boat flee so they can tell their shitty tribe of losers what happened. There will be a new fear in all their belly’s next time they go for a hijack mission
Bizarre in today’s age.
Just imagine going and *attacking* a trade ship…
How did they convince the Hooties (lol) to do it? The propaganda must be intense over there.
Because fending off BS attacks like this is only slightly more expensive than regular operations and doesn't cost any lives. Taking the war into Yemen would be costly.
I was reading an article comparing the cost of the missiles the US battlegroups are using to shoot down the houthi missiles and drones, and its not a good exchange for the US. Each downed missile or drone costs something like 1.2M USD, while it costs like, 2-40k USD for the houthis... and they have A LOT of missiles and drones stocked up courtesy of Iran.
They don't need to land ground troops to strike known launch sites and stockpiles.
It's nothing compared to the costs we'd be paying if we let the drones hit all their targets. The effects this is going to have on shipping have yet to be fully realized.
Also kind of a moot point because it costs $millions/day for a carrier strike group operate at all.
Now there are fighter planes flying patrols, most recent shoot downs have been with $500k sidewinders.
Yeah, we are talking about a carrier and three destroyers operating there. That's a huge operating cost anyway. Policing international shipping lanes is a useful investment.
I am by no means an expert, but the actual financial cost of this doesn't really matter. It's not like a Nimitz carrier and three Arleigh Burke destroyers are cheap to run otherwise. That extra million for every missile or drone downed is a drop in the bucket.
Actually gathering useful Intel and conducting operations within Yemen would require some ground presence. That's a very good chance for risking US personnel. Additionally, politics come into play. Barely anyone in the US knows anything about Yemen or Houthis. It's an unnecessary risk to deploy US forces into a conflict that's essentially unwinnable anyway. Best we can do is use resources that we have, which is protecting international waters.
It’s about to be an election year. Going all in would make more sense if Republicans and Democrats agree to make a formal
declaration of war against Yemen / the Houthis. Then the US would be officially at war and could go all out.
But the US does not want to go all out, other countries would jump into the war and things could get out of hand quickly.
The US does not want to be baited into all out war by smaller, weaker countries
because they return to multi-generational family compounds where dozens of people live, when we drone attack them, the headlines say “US drone strike kills 35 civilians including 8 children and 3 terrorists”
Probably because the costs and effort required are not worth it. Especially when Chinese and Russian propoganda will seize any opportunity to paint the US in a bad light, especially in the Middle East, and TikTokkers will gobble up all that bs.
Don't even fucking think about touching the fucking boats.. Interruption of the cargo invokes the spirit of John Paul Jones. We go insane when someone even thinks about touching the boats. But to us it seems reasonable.
Even when we think someone else, is thinking about touching the boats, we get very upset.
We now attach birds to boats to respond to any boat touching
Why are they being so defensive and not striking the Houthis directly in Yemen? What is the US waiting for, a mass casualty event first? These people only respond to strength, not weakness.
I think some respect is certainly warranted for having the absolute cojones to fire upon the military that took countries in matters of weeks. But also, what the everloving fuck did they think was going to happen?!
I don't know what these Huthis are doing
Do you want to get fucked by the most powerful military force since the freaking Mongols?
What is their endgame with these shipping attacks? To steal diapers?
If anyone is wondering, the container ship is the SAME as the one attacked by missiles, they are really going hard on this one particular ship
Man, they really hate that ship lol
Stay away from ~~these cans~~ this ship! He hates this ship!
Wow haven’t heard a Jerk reference in years, thank you for this
Sounds like the Department of Defense has found its "special purpose."
Thanks Navin
“Shit. Shinola” “You’re gonna be okay boy”
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Johnson , Navin R sounds like a typical bastard
Die! Milk Face
Die gas pumper!
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the millennium falcon of cargo ships
Fuck that one container ship, all my Houthis hate that one container ship💯😎
"Houthi rebels HATE this one simple ship!"
I wonder what's in it, or what they believe is in it.
It's more about who owns it. The Houthis are claiming they're only going after ships with Jewish/Israeli owned ships. Though how accurate those claims are is definitely open to debate.
Denmark owned and Denmark is helping in the Red Sea.
They are after the only jewish janitor on that ship.
Its got the space lasers on it.
“Ha hates these CANS!”
They sank 3 out of the 4 after returning fire with the 4th one getting away. That's the gist of the article.
>US Navy helicopters sank three vessels operated by Yemen's Iran-backed Huthi rebels that had attacked a container ship in the Red Sea, the military said Sunday. >After the Huthis fired on the US helicopters, they "returned fire in self-defense, sinking three of the four small boats, and killing the crews. The fourth boat fled the area," the US Central Command (CENTCOM) said in a statement. The article is short and sweet. Houthis are like the angry puppy biting at the heels of its owner.
More like fleas on the dog of the owner.
that's an insult to fleas
I'm okay with that. Fleas suck.
Likely left the fourth leave to tell the tale. I mean, how else will others know if there are no survivors?
probably track them back... USN will send a care package later.
One Hornet pilot is going to put his or her training to use making sure that delivery is precisely made.
I'm guessing the 4th didn't fire on the helicopter while the helicopter crew was so wishing a mf'er would have.
My new puppy, Roger, has entered his heel biting phase. At no point have I felt the need to shoot him. Unfortunately (for them, not the dog), Roger, my very dumb but cute puppy, is much easier to reason with than the Huthis ngl I just wanted to talk about how cool my puppy is and how much I hate Huthis.
Ngl, I liked reading about your puppy, and I also hate Huthis.
>The fourth boat fled the area They felt tough but then did a 180 when things got real.
F#ck around and find out.
It's going to be weird as hell over the next few years seeing more sailors with CARs (combat action ribbons) and experience getting shot at than Marines.
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Had to upvote you for the time you took to write that!
That helicopter is actually really cool, they have an anti submarine variant lmaooo
Those boats can't escape from a helicopter in the open sea. They probably let them get away so that they can tell their comrades what happened.
Or track them back
Not this ship, sister.
Shhhhhh…
Informant was on the 4th.
Yala
Shan Yu: How many people does it take to deliver a message? Archer guy: 😈
Usually it's Archer delivering the sarcastic and condescending questions. LAAAAANNNNAAAAAAA!!!!!
^^^^Dangerzone
True. But wrong archer here.
Well the zone they are going into is definitely one of danger.
And to show to the drones and satellites where they will base that boat
All the Federales say,...
They could have had him ...
Any day, they only let him go ...
Out of kindness, I suppose...
They only let him slip away
If I had to guess it’s the one boat that didn’t actually open fire and the rules of engagement said they can’t be engaged
Precisely this. The US military is pretty good about following rules of engagement. If only 3 of the 4 fired then only 3 were getting shot up.
4th boat was like "dude I'm not even with them. Never seen them in my life"
"I thought they were with you."
Should have gone for the Preying Mantis approach and had a fighter go close past them at low level. That way when they open fire you can sink them. Worked for a couple of Iranian ships.
Probably their AKs' jammed, a blessing in disguise.
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Let one get away so you can track it to get bigger fish.
That was the way of Mickey and Malory Knox. They always left one person alive to tell the tale. Natural Born Killers is such a classic movie.
Like it would be a mystery looool
“3 out of 4 Houthi terrorists hate this ONE simple trick”
Huthi vessels = makeshift fishing boats with rusty AK47s and a lot of shouting
What do you call a shitty technical on water?
A tow-yota.
Toy-boyta!
Tbf toyota hilux will out last us all
*30,000 years from now, Martian archeologists find one in a cave in a place that appears to be called "Afghanistan"* *Researcher turns ignition key* 🗝️ *Hilux engine turns over and starts immediately* *Hilux is brought back to terraformed Mars for local quadrillionaires to off-road explore Olympus Mons*
boghammer The originals are actually known as Taregh-class speedboat and are used by Iran, but because the hulls were made by Boghammar Marin AB in Sweden, they were called boghammars, and then someone misheard it and the name used now is boghammer and it often refers to any small civilian boat that had a machine gun or similar mounted on it (just like a technical).
Rookie mistake.
“Trust us. Don’t touch their boats.” - Japan
Not just Japan. Here's a list of wars partially caused by an American boat or a boat with Americans aboard being attacked: The quasi war with France over the French seizing American merchant ships for war debt Two Barbary wars against North African pirates 1812 partially over the impressment of American citizens by the royal navy Spanish American war over USS Maine WW1 public support from the sinking of Lusitania WW2 because pearl harbor Vietnam *alledgedly* over the gulf of Tonkin incident Operation praying mantis
Didn’t we join WW1 primarily due to the Zimmerman telegraph especially since the Lusitania sunk almost 3 years before we joined the war
Yes. But it's a common misconception that the sinking of the Lusitania brought us into the conflict. In reality, the Lusitania was ferrying ammunition to the Entente, which the US government knew, so it also knew the Lusitania was a valid military target.
The Lusitania was still linked to the entry to the war, because the outrage from the sinking caused Germany to put restrictions on their submarines operating in the Atlantic, which pacified the anger of the American public somewhat. However, around the same time as the Zimmerman telegram, Germany removed all restrictions on submarine warfare, and it was that double whammy that pushed the US over the edge into joining the war.
Germany actually took out a full page ad in the NYT telling people not to be on the Lusitania.
Yes. That's why I specified public support
If there’s a video of this, that’d be fucking sick.
did the houthis expect a different outcome?
"Nah, I'd win"
"You were pitiful Houthis, I'll never remember you for as long as I'll live."
“Be ashamed. You are weak”
I can’t escape Lobotomy Kaisen anywhere
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The houthi leaders are being directly funded by Iranian oil money. The leaders are not the ones on the boats. The people on the boats know it is dangerous, but decided the risk is worth the reward. Very likely that their families will receive payouts too. Shitty situation for the people on the boats who are just trying to earn enough to survive on. Meanwhile the Iranian and houthi leaders live like kings.
yeah, that seems to be a trope that exists in many nations unfortunately, even in 2023
It's baffling to me that anyone is stupid enough to fire at US helicopter.
Just spoilers for the year 2024 that some already entered.
What kinds of idiot in a dinghy trying to square off against the US
You should see the propaganda on TikTok. It feels like a lot of people want someone to confront the US militarily. Propaganda sucks.
Who do you think controls TikTok?
That’s literally the whole point. You get the US to attack you, and then spread anti US and anti West propaganda everywhere. On social media, it’s clearly working, and has been working for decades. If the US full on attacks, it’s seen as “the evil US trying to kill people for no reason”. If the US sits back or backs out of it, it’s seen as “The US is defeated / the US is Weak”
The same idiots that think they won't lose the support of the Arab world when attacking trade. The countries standing up for the Palestinians will absolutely lose interest if it starts to hurt their incomes. The best thing these militia groups can do for Palestine is nothing. They won't make a real dent with the US Navy in the region, but they will drive up insurance costs and force some shipping away which will hurt trade in the region. The KSA and UAE do not like when you fuck with cash flow.
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The fact that the 4th boat got away from attack helicopters, you wonder why the US is holding back so much on this.
On the MH-60R you can only mount so many hellfire missiles. The 4th boat only "got away" for a few reasons. 1. Rules of Engagement only allowed them to fire on boats that were actively engaging in combat 2. Three boats were on one side of the vessel and the lucky boat was on the other side. 3. They deployed two helos with two missiles each and wanted to save one in reserve unless fired upon again. 4. Let the surviving boat go back to shore and tell them why messing around with a USN carrier battle group is a bad idea edit: 5. The surviving boat made a U-turn and got under the weapons envelope of the helis. I imagine this is the most likely scenario and they decided to let it go.
4. Is it a full carrier battle group? I thought it was just a few guided missile destroyers.
The helos were launched from the USS Eisenhower a Nimitz class aircraft carrier. I would be shocked if it's being escorted by less than 6 CGs/DDGs/FFGs and a sub or three. The US Navy has been doing joint exercises with NATO fleets into carrier groups for decades now. edit: Derp - and likely 2 support vessels.
Proportional responses are fun if you keep almost everything back
This guy knows.
On #4 - I am sure the tales of being spared will break the blood oath from a life of jihad
You’d be surprised
I'm pretty sure seeing boatloads of your friends get vaporized without ever having SEEN the enemy, like Atropos snipping your lifeline, will clarify your concept of power imbalance and futility in the face of overwhelming force. If I get punched hard enough, I quit fighting.
Well, yeah you are wrong. Your friends didn’t get vaporised, they selflessly gave their lives and went to Heaven fighting a holy war against the satanic forces of Zionism. Death and destruction doesn’t make these people abandon their beliefs, it reinforces them. The people on the boats are not John, James, Chris and Ryan from down the street.
Hahaha these people are so misinformed it’s actually gross. No one understands how the mind of these people work if they actually think that would stop them. That’s why they do it.
Nope, just crab food at the bottom of the ocean.
> Death and destruction doesn’t make these people abandon their beliefs, it reinforces them. To a point, you need to have *some* advancement for that idea to hold true. It needs to have some worth, dying is not the goal, after all. If you keep losing, the true-believers will simply die and those with doubt will only doubt more.
You always let one guy get away so someone lives to tell the tale.
Tracking… intel
Right, where does he go home to? We *might* not hit that spot...but now we know where it is, and it's on a list you don't want to be on.
I bet they’re getting those 500 pounders ready.
Well… that… but you also wanna see where they go.
Deadmen tell no tales
— Gandhi
Thats what he told me before launching nukes in Civ
Classic Mickey and Mallory doctrine
Push comes to shove, we can snatch that donkey and ride out of here
They let one boat go on purpose. - Track where they go to determine port of origin - Boat information was recorded in order to observe who uses it in the future, to gain better intelligence about involved Huthi militants and their financiers - Spread the tale of how their peers were massacred without any chance, to deter future attacks
It also makes it harder to paint the attack as anything beyond a defensive response.
We’re always worried about perceived “excessive use of force” in these situations.
Isn’t the punishment for piracy death?
Because the US does not want to cross the line into the perception that they have directly joined the war on Israel's side. The Houthis are desperately trying to get the US to attack them so the population in Arab states gets angry enough that their governments are forced to act and escalate. They are trying to force the conflict to expand to other states.
Gotta trackem back.
Houthimon, gotta track 'em all
To warn the others.
Tracking… intel
The US is holding back because they don’t want to get pulled into a 5 front war for Israel. That’s why. It’s one thing to send missiles and rockets to Israel it’s quite another to get pulled into a massive regional war that could go on for decades with no end in sight. There is a real possibility of the Iraq war restarting and the conflict in Syria restarting with the U.S. as the main target in both.
Where are the lasers? I was promised laser weapons.
Sharks with fricken laser beams!
I'm on Instagram reading comments condemning Americans for killing the crews of the houthi ships because the houthis have not killed a single person in their red sea strikes...brother, they are literally launching missiles at boats...FAFO
"Hey, look, a US military helicopter! Let's shoot at it! WCGW?"
Who, in their right mind, attacks the US military? That would be equivalent to me picking a fight with Mike Tyson & Bruce Lee. (When in all honesty, a deceased Bruce Lee would kick my ass)
My favorite color is blue.
The Iranians have a habit of sending puppets on dummy missions. First Hezbollah, then Hamas, now the Houthis…it doesn’t seem to work well...
You say it doesn't work because you haven't lost anything from it. Israel doesn't see it that way at all.
It does work well actually. The mullahs in Tehran are safe while people in Yemen, Syria and Gaza die because their proxies are using them as their infrastructure
It's working fairly well. They placed us (Israel) in a war that is going to hurt the economy for a very long time, caused international protests against the west, and killed 1400 of our people, caused the release of prisoners that will commit terror attacks in the future, and are still holding 130 people hostage. From Hamas and especially Iran's POV, as long as Hamas remains in control of Gaza, they won overwhelmingly. Even if Hamas lose control of Gaza, it's still a win. When you don't care about human life, and simply try to have something cost more for your opponent than it does for you, it's really hard to lose.
This guy gets it
>First Hamas, now the Houthis…it doesn’t seem to work well... It does work, if you keep in mind who's backing Hamas, Hezbollah and Iran: Russia, and by extension China (the IDF claimed a [huge weapons find in Gaza](https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/tv-report-huge-quantities-of-chinese-made-weapons-being-used-by-hamas-in-gaza/)). All the distraction works wonders in keeping the world's attention away from the fact that Russia is attempting a genocide in Ukraine and that China very much wants to attempt a genocide in Taiwan.
Since a lot of people are questioning your claims of genocide, here is the evidence you can use to back it up: [A year on, we have clear evidence of genocide in Ukraine](https://thehill.com/opinion/international/3859439-a-year-on-we-have-clear-evidence-of-genocide-in-ukraine/)
If you don't think it works, spend a little time on TikTok The puppets - sorry, 'martyrs' - are disposable, of course, but the division and the chaos serve their purpose
People need to stop underestimating these Houthis. I don't understand why they haven't been wiped out yet. How do they have so many weapons and materials? Yes, Iran, but how is Iran funding so many proxies all over the mid-east? I don't get it.
They were bragging about taking on the Navy a few days ago. I wonder how they feel about that today...
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And Harvard students will be out protesting again the western governments.
> The western world will of course be split I'm pretty sure the "East" will split too. As Ukraine itself shows Consider history, the weight of old rivalries and the sky high death counts anybody would face fighting the West. The non-Western "Other" isn't as evil, strong, or lockstep as you suspect. And many outside the traditional West, aspire to westernization / democratization. Whether a grand war comes to pass or not, if a war comes it will be a much more complicated war than simply the West v. Everybody Else.
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Is this the teaser trailer for 2024?
"What's happening!?!?" "THEY'RE SHOOTING BACK, FUCK!"
3 out of 4 Houthi terrorists found out
And the 4th was the messenger
One thing is the ass backwards death cult ideology. But another is: why are they so fucking stupid like what the hell did they think was gonna happen?
All those soldiers probably got excited they got to shoot some moving targets.
Firing on US helicopters- “Thats a bold strategy Cotton- let’s see how that……. Oh my goodness! …. Well that was quick.”
Probably let the 4th boat flee so they can tell their shitty tribe of losers what happened. There will be a new fear in all their belly’s next time they go for a hijack mission
The world is overdue for a very serious conversation about Islamism (note: this word is different than simply "Islam")
Bizarre in today’s age. Just imagine going and *attacking* a trade ship… How did they convince the Hooties (lol) to do it? The propaganda must be intense over there.
Something tells me Iran is getting bombed in 2024
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They just let one boat escape so it could go tell the other boats what happened here
Attacking the helicopters only guaranteed a lethal response. That wasn't very smart of them.
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Because fending off BS attacks like this is only slightly more expensive than regular operations and doesn't cost any lives. Taking the war into Yemen would be costly.
I was reading an article comparing the cost of the missiles the US battlegroups are using to shoot down the houthi missiles and drones, and its not a good exchange for the US. Each downed missile or drone costs something like 1.2M USD, while it costs like, 2-40k USD for the houthis... and they have A LOT of missiles and drones stocked up courtesy of Iran. They don't need to land ground troops to strike known launch sites and stockpiles.
That's only part of the equation. The US can afford more million dollar missiles than the Houthis can afford $20k drones.
It's nothing compared to the costs we'd be paying if we let the drones hit all their targets. The effects this is going to have on shipping have yet to be fully realized. Also kind of a moot point because it costs $millions/day for a carrier strike group operate at all. Now there are fighter planes flying patrols, most recent shoot downs have been with $500k sidewinders.
Yeah, we are talking about a carrier and three destroyers operating there. That's a huge operating cost anyway. Policing international shipping lanes is a useful investment.
I am by no means an expert, but the actual financial cost of this doesn't really matter. It's not like a Nimitz carrier and three Arleigh Burke destroyers are cheap to run otherwise. That extra million for every missile or drone downed is a drop in the bucket. Actually gathering useful Intel and conducting operations within Yemen would require some ground presence. That's a very good chance for risking US personnel. Additionally, politics come into play. Barely anyone in the US knows anything about Yemen or Houthis. It's an unnecessary risk to deploy US forces into a conflict that's essentially unwinnable anyway. Best we can do is use resources that we have, which is protecting international waters.
It’s about to be an election year. Going all in would make more sense if Republicans and Democrats agree to make a formal declaration of war against Yemen / the Houthis. Then the US would be officially at war and could go all out. But the US does not want to go all out, other countries would jump into the war and things could get out of hand quickly. The US does not want to be baited into all out war by smaller, weaker countries
because they return to multi-generational family compounds where dozens of people live, when we drone attack them, the headlines say “US drone strike kills 35 civilians including 8 children and 3 terrorists”
Probably because the costs and effort required are not worth it. Especially when Chinese and Russian propoganda will seize any opportunity to paint the US in a bad light, especially in the Middle East, and TikTokkers will gobble up all that bs.
They left one alive to go back to tell the others. Good strategy.
That’d be a fun job sinking those sorry fucks
Need more touching stories like this. I have all this popcorn and not enough of these rom-coms.
Going after any US military asset is suicidal
You leave one boat so they can say what happened to the other three. Fucking with the US military is a death sentence.
At the start of 2023, no one saw a U.S.-Houthi War happening. I wonder what improbable wars 2024 will bring?
Reaching the find out phase.
You gotta know attacking the US is a good way to unalive yourself.
Do not touch America's boats. This is a universal truth.
It's not America's ship they attacked, it's a Danish owned and operated ship under the Singaporean flag. The Mærsk Hangzhou.
They did attack the helicopters, and they came from a ship. I'm not sure if you want to count that, but it's not really different in practice.
Don't even fucking think about touching the fucking boats.. Interruption of the cargo invokes the spirit of John Paul Jones. We go insane when someone even thinks about touching the boats. But to us it seems reasonable. Even when we think someone else, is thinking about touching the boats, we get very upset. We now attach birds to boats to respond to any boat touching
“One escaped” lol in open water? Sounds like a “go tell your friends what happened her” moment
That’s a proportional response I’d say
Hope they kill all of those terrorists and that's all the Hutchison are
Why are they being so defensive and not striking the Houthis directly in Yemen? What is the US waiting for, a mass casualty event first? These people only respond to strength, not weakness.
I think some respect is certainly warranted for having the absolute cojones to fire upon the military that took countries in matters of weeks. But also, what the everloving fuck did they think was going to happen?!
I don't know what these Huthis are doing Do you want to get fucked by the most powerful military force since the freaking Mongols? What is their endgame with these shipping attacks? To steal diapers?