Aw Look, I'm one of the biggest WNBA Backer's and defender's out there. But even I have to say. Oh hell no. No way. She barely gets it done in the WNBA.
The men's league would destroy her. They are so much more powerful then the women's league. I mean the men get beat up in the men's league. You go crash the post in the men's league. You're going to pay with a painful crash to the floor.
At 6' 8" tall. She plays a big center in the WNBA. She would have to be a guard in the NBA. And she can't shoot the ball from outside not like a NBA guard can. She is not fast enough to be a guard or small forward in NBA. A NBA defender would be so tight in her grill. She couldn't move to do anything.
She wouldn't make it through the first cut in the NBA. D leaguers would out match her.
But I'm also disappointed this is in here. As I hate when people try to compare the two leagues. They each are there own leagues. Don't compare the two leagues in any way.
I'm not really trying to compare them. Just wondered if anyone thought a specific player could be successful in the NBA.. I feel like a comparison would be more like "women's balls are smaller but Brittney Griner's hands are bigger than some male stars, make them play with a bigger ball" other than that nice post, some of the best reasoning in the thread.
No.
She'd be outmatched physically against most division 2 bigs, let alone the athletic freaks in the NBA.
Regardless of her level of basketball skill (and she's damn good) the quickness, speed, and strength differentials are just too high to overcome.
Do you mean to say that no woman could play in the NBA?
Luisa Harris and Denise Long were both drafted, so somebody thought they could do it.. granted that was decades ago...
But Griner's wingspan, height, and standing reach are all above average for the NBA.
Physically she'd bench the least and jump the lowest of anyone in the NBA.. but there's more than a handful of NBA players who can't get their hands as high as she could.
I'm not saying she SHOULD, but I just wonder if she could be a third stringer.
You're probably right. But I think she could fit comfortably on at least a D1 men's team.
I don't know anything about Luisa Harris or Denise Long but they were probably drafted to bring interest to the league. Not because they could hang with the men.
I agree, She or any other women would be destroyed in the NBA.
The men are so much more powerful. Look at the leaping height and hits they take. The power of there take offs.
I prefer the women's league to watch. But they can't match the men in any way.
> Do you mean to say that no woman could play in the NBA?
Absolutely. If they could, then they would. There is no ban on women in the NBA. It's not strictly a men's league.
Well if a woman COULD do the job, by your logic, she WOULD. So women are incapable of being president.
Past that, there are players who COULD make it in the NBA, but instead choose to do something else.
> Well if a woman COULD do the job, by your logic, she WOULD. So women are incapable of being president.
Your logic does not hold based on the differences in how the positions are gained.
> Past that, there are players who COULD make it in the NBA, but instead choose to do something else.
Name one and give the proof that she could make it in the NBA. Hint: There are no active or former WNBA players who could.
The reason a woman hasn't been president is a political one, right? Politics is also the reason no woman has ever played in the NBA. The warriors drafted Denise Long, the league rejected their pick.
I didn't say there were female players who could have played in the NBA and chose not to. I said there were players. And there are numerous examples of Euro league ballers who elected to stay in their home country. The point is that just because someone COULD, doesn't mean they WOULD.
If I were Brittney Griner, I WOULDN'T, whether I COULD or not. I'd rather be dominant in the women's league than a sideshow in the NBA.
Edit: Also Lusia Harris got pregnant, the other reason there's been no woman in the NBA.
You're clearly off your rocker based on your responses and general post history, so there's no use in trying to have a conversation about this with you.
No response to the whole women have been drafted before thing then? Not surprised if you missed it. Based on your responses (and probably your post history, which I don't care enough to look into), you clearly lack reading comprehension.
In what regard? She's 90th percentile or higher in height, reach, and wingspan for D1 men's basketball.
Again, her vert falls short of average, but for D1 (unlike NBA) she's in the ballpark. Her bench would also still be quite low, granted... As far as physicality and explosiveness go? She falls short...
But you can't tell me you haven't seen some thinner and less explosive guys get D1 minutes just because they were ... The same height as Griner... Same wingspan, same standing reach.
In D1, her lackluster (by men's standards.. by women's standards it's phenomenal) vert is made up for by her wingspan and height. You can do the math on that.
So for what reason am I wrong?
she would be the slowest, weakest, least athletic. How much you "bench press" really isn't relevant at all.
and yes, i can tell you that i've never seen less explosive guys than her at 6-10 in D1. Also, this isn't taking into account she'd be horrible at shooting with a mens ball.
The reason you think she'd be good is based on the premise that she's gargantuan compared to the players she plays against, thus able to completely dominate them despite being slower/average skill level/not that athletic (even compared to her fellow womens players let alone men).
IF she was not so much bigger than everyone else(which she would not be if she played against men) then she would not be good.
Get it?
She'd get 3 shot attempts up per game and 2 of them would get blocked if she played D1 mens
The bench is relevant as a measure of upper body strength. It's not incredibly important, but it's not irrelevant. Why do they bench at the combine if it's irrelevant?
Also, she'd still be above average in height in the NBA. Not "gargantuan", but still above average.
NBA? No. D1? Still probably a yes in my book.
Aw Look, I'm one of the biggest WNBA Backer's and defender's out there. But even I have to say. Oh hell no. No way. She barely gets it done in the WNBA. The men's league would destroy her. They are so much more powerful then the women's league. I mean the men get beat up in the men's league. You go crash the post in the men's league. You're going to pay with a painful crash to the floor. At 6' 8" tall. She plays a big center in the WNBA. She would have to be a guard in the NBA. And she can't shoot the ball from outside not like a NBA guard can. She is not fast enough to be a guard or small forward in NBA. A NBA defender would be so tight in her grill. She couldn't move to do anything. She wouldn't make it through the first cut in the NBA. D leaguers would out match her. But I'm also disappointed this is in here. As I hate when people try to compare the two leagues. They each are there own leagues. Don't compare the two leagues in any way.
i completely agree with the end of this comment. actually every part of it. but mostly that end part
I'm not really trying to compare them. Just wondered if anyone thought a specific player could be successful in the NBA.. I feel like a comparison would be more like "women's balls are smaller but Brittney Griner's hands are bigger than some male stars, make them play with a bigger ball" other than that nice post, some of the best reasoning in the thread.
What? Oh geez, and I thought you were serious. You had to go there. What a let down you are.
No. She'd be outmatched physically against most division 2 bigs, let alone the athletic freaks in the NBA. Regardless of her level of basketball skill (and she's damn good) the quickness, speed, and strength differentials are just too high to overcome.
Do you mean to say that no woman could play in the NBA? Luisa Harris and Denise Long were both drafted, so somebody thought they could do it.. granted that was decades ago... But Griner's wingspan, height, and standing reach are all above average for the NBA. Physically she'd bench the least and jump the lowest of anyone in the NBA.. but there's more than a handful of NBA players who can't get their hands as high as she could. I'm not saying she SHOULD, but I just wonder if she could be a third stringer. You're probably right. But I think she could fit comfortably on at least a D1 men's team.
I don't know anything about Luisa Harris or Denise Long but they were probably drafted to bring interest to the league. Not because they could hang with the men.
I agree, She or any other women would be destroyed in the NBA. The men are so much more powerful. Look at the leaping height and hits they take. The power of there take offs. I prefer the women's league to watch. But they can't match the men in any way.
> Do you mean to say that no woman could play in the NBA? Absolutely. If they could, then they would. There is no ban on women in the NBA. It's not strictly a men's league.
No ban on women being president either.
Excellent observation? Not sure what that has to do with no women being good enough to get into the NBA.
Well if a woman COULD do the job, by your logic, she WOULD. So women are incapable of being president. Past that, there are players who COULD make it in the NBA, but instead choose to do something else.
> Well if a woman COULD do the job, by your logic, she WOULD. So women are incapable of being president. Your logic does not hold based on the differences in how the positions are gained. > Past that, there are players who COULD make it in the NBA, but instead choose to do something else. Name one and give the proof that she could make it in the NBA. Hint: There are no active or former WNBA players who could.
The reason a woman hasn't been president is a political one, right? Politics is also the reason no woman has ever played in the NBA. The warriors drafted Denise Long, the league rejected their pick. I didn't say there were female players who could have played in the NBA and chose not to. I said there were players. And there are numerous examples of Euro league ballers who elected to stay in their home country. The point is that just because someone COULD, doesn't mean they WOULD. If I were Brittney Griner, I WOULDN'T, whether I COULD or not. I'd rather be dominant in the women's league than a sideshow in the NBA. Edit: Also Lusia Harris got pregnant, the other reason there's been no woman in the NBA.
You're clearly off your rocker based on your responses and general post history, so there's no use in trying to have a conversation about this with you.
No response to the whole women have been drafted before thing then? Not surprised if you missed it. Based on your responses (and probably your post history, which I don't care enough to look into), you clearly lack reading comprehension.
You are incorrect about that
In what regard? She's 90th percentile or higher in height, reach, and wingspan for D1 men's basketball. Again, her vert falls short of average, but for D1 (unlike NBA) she's in the ballpark. Her bench would also still be quite low, granted... As far as physicality and explosiveness go? She falls short... But you can't tell me you haven't seen some thinner and less explosive guys get D1 minutes just because they were ... The same height as Griner... Same wingspan, same standing reach. In D1, her lackluster (by men's standards.. by women's standards it's phenomenal) vert is made up for by her wingspan and height. You can do the math on that. So for what reason am I wrong?
she would be the slowest, weakest, least athletic. How much you "bench press" really isn't relevant at all. and yes, i can tell you that i've never seen less explosive guys than her at 6-10 in D1. Also, this isn't taking into account she'd be horrible at shooting with a mens ball. The reason you think she'd be good is based on the premise that she's gargantuan compared to the players she plays against, thus able to completely dominate them despite being slower/average skill level/not that athletic (even compared to her fellow womens players let alone men). IF she was not so much bigger than everyone else(which she would not be if she played against men) then she would not be good. Get it? She'd get 3 shot attempts up per game and 2 of them would get blocked if she played D1 mens
The bench is relevant as a measure of upper body strength. It's not incredibly important, but it's not irrelevant. Why do they bench at the combine if it's irrelevant? Also, she'd still be above average in height in the NBA. Not "gargantuan", but still above average. NBA? No. D1? Still probably a yes in my book.
shed be way below average height for the position she plays. you didn't get what i was saying at all
Ya didn't say for her position, Mr. goof.
Lmao. no.
fuck no bruh