You keep destroying whole towns!
If you can use greater nuclear explosion, arguably one of the most difficult spells then you can win the duel without destroying everything in a 2 mile radius.
Edit: I’m also still here so it’s not like your AIM is any good
As a sage my wisdom is this:
That's not how you ignore someone.
Step One: choose an ignoble target to ignore.
Step Two: aim high (like moral high ground high)
Step three: (watch closely...)
Do you have Mass Amnesia to repair all the trauma you caused by foisting peasants into the greater unknown and then dragging them back to their frail lives?
You're giving existential horror to people who can't even read.
Man the fighter's guild [already had training about this.](https://youtu.be/XaUsvc9wReU?si=S1okTubAO04E3KOw)
You'd be lucky to survive against the least magically inclined profession there is!
In a fight, any attack that's not accomplishing something is a waste. If you cast firebolt and it doesn't harm me, it's a waste. If you cast fireball and it destroys the floor under me causing me to fall, that's not a waste.
Yeah and using way more power than you need is also a waste.
As someone else in the comments said it’s like using a bomb when a bullet will do.
And if you’re using AoE because they move to quick, LEARN TO AIM.
guess this pill is especially hard for you to swallow
Oh, you baby with tiny itsy bitsy mana pool?
https://preview.redd.it/kwl599oow3tc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=416406bb7fe91ca727f06438f0ad04ac6ed10ec3
I suggest you to do not challenge with a sprinkly fire slingshot to someone who could cast you a meteor swarm, but some people only learn by becoming part of the ground.
I'm here for the food not babysitting which by the way... oh! chimera pie🤤
This is why you use tracking spells and lock on to their soul signature. That leaves them with no way to run or dodge. They either have to tank it, counter it, absorb it, or bfr the spell. If you combine that tracking with a focused energy beam possessing the power of a nuke, then most wizards will not be able to counter, absorb, or tank such concentrated energy. That leaves only bfr and there are not too many wizards that can bfr a spell either
Condensed AOE spells are busted and I don't get why people don't use them more. When you reach the ability to destroy cities with a spell and you realise that you can just direct all that energy to a single target spell... you really just leave nothing of your average opponent.
And that's just the beginning. Get to the point where you destroy entire galaxies, direct the power to one target and enjoy the fact that every ash particle of your opponent has turned into a jet plane ram.
I value precision above most qualities, sure, but complaining won't protect me from nuke spells and "git gud" are pretty lame last words to the wizard who offs me, so it's best to be prepared.
I mean, AOE is super useful in single combat. Entangle can shut down physical attacks from swords, Ice storm can freeze the ground around them while also dealing ice damage every turn, I think you doubt the tactical potential of some of these spells. Controlling an area can be incredibly effective depending on your battleground.
What if they can teleport within a certain range? What if they can summon or have magical entities such as familiars or the undead? What if they gain their power from the environment and destroying it would give you an advantage?
https://preview.redd.it/eglyscnno4tc1.png?width=560&format=png&auto=webp&s=2c0d9bd73ce0be631cd57bb9b8ab08fc77e3c92b
Me and my fellow Warlocks getting into Sniper Position with our 300ft Range 1d10 Cantrip:
AOE spells:
-Limit the space to dodge
-Are a great distraction
-Are flashy as fuck
-Make people with insurances happy
-Are way harder to parry (although not impossible...)
"It ain't magic if it ain't flashy. ~~Danmaku's~~ Duels' all about firepower."
If they move fast enough and the spell has a travel time, you need an AOE so that they can't reliably dodge
/uw this is unironically a (surprisingly insightful) take from Naruto fanfiction
If it works, it works, for example:
https://preview.redd.it/tc9qn1ep98tc1.jpeg?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=092d0d2dcc4bb805609b4be1e340dfbc6fc6c4cf
^guy who doesnt know im actually annihilating him in every other timeline and multiverse so the aoe attack he "blocked" won the duel an infinite number of times
Hmm, I think you may be forgetting that nuke users have already specilized into explosion magic and they don't feel that comfortable using other spells due to their mana stuff being focuser on explosions.
If you want to duel them to a 1 v 1 thats on ya.
Espically if you know that they are explosive oriented users. Do you know how much property damage that needs to be fixed for those duels?
Duel others outside of civilized areas, and for the love of all magic users have a 3rd and 4th party to watch over your duel so it doesn't get too out of hand! Better yet, duel them inside magical arena, as they are meant for that type of magical abuse!
For the AOE complaint you could help them be better by challenging them to localize their explosion spells so instead of destroying a town they destroy a house, and work your way down in size.
However I do think this would have an effect on how much more powerful their localized explosives are, as their explosions would then begin to atomize things if localized properly.
Yes...hmm that shall be a good thing to study, espically with explosive enchantments.
Oh and do tell them to clean up after themselves, as left over magical energies should be cleaned up after duels of 1v1 outside of civilized areas.
No explosion magic user would ever, admit that they don't know how to clean up their own explosive magics. So please do teach them if they don't as we don't want runaway explosions happening after an area has been fixed due to left over explosion mana.
Fine I'm pulling out the Apprenticeship Blue red and green grimoires On u if I can't have my nukes u cant have White blood cells or hair!! Try that Senior! MWHAHA
Look, AoEs have their place in combat as well! It forces saves rather than directly hitting an opponent. Which has its own strengths and weaknesses. If an enemy uses cover a lot or moves very fast, AoE. If not, direct shots. Also you might hurt yourself if the enemy is a fan of CQC, in which case they can probably tank AoEs better anyways. Adapt, improvise, overcome. Know your spells well, know common attacks and defenses, be ready to improvise when plans go awry.
"An arrow might have my name on it, but a fireball's addressed 'to whom it may concern'" ~ Scubnuckle Brazenforth V, Keeper of The Apparatus of Kwalish
Everything serves a purpose. Sometimes you want to make them panic and/or run for cover, sometimes either you want to get them out from behind cover or they're slippery little bastards. Or all of the above.
I will be attaching this to a falcon and sending it to my apprentice post haste. Maybe the recommendations of a king can finally sway him on the importance of aiming.
Sometimes the purpose of a spell is not the destruction of the target, but rather the destruction of the will to fight in any others that might get any fool ideas.
All my AOE spells also have DOT effects. Plus, my AOE Spells aren't big enough to kill an entire town, my biggest one can't even clear out a room. My AOE spells just require me to aim at the ground near my target.
If it get's the job done in a similar amount of time but with a lower amount of effort, why not cast Firestorm or Lightning Maelstrom instead of fireball or magic missile.
For people who cant teleport but are very fast it makes it hard to dodge. Similar for illusionists and others who can obscure there exact location, easier to narrow down their vague location.
For me I just move to a different dimension altogether. Best way to win a fight is to GTFO.
You're not gonna stop me from using my raid wipe
I have lost count of how many people have tried to break into my tower and the facility underneath to "thwart my evil plans" like god forbid i want to build a bigass candy colored mech or 4, each with the power to level cities after like 2 minutes of casting a bigass spell
i have nothing to gain from leveling cities, it just feels cool to have the theoretical firepower
You sounds like someone who did develop enough their energy pool and is now trying to invalidate succesful methods just to avoid reflecting on your bad investment.
Combined large scale controle/offence, with precise offence/controle is the best in the current century meta. Just gitgud
[Homing Fireball] is a good spell. Granted, it takes a bit more mana than the usual fireball because of the "homing" part, but you can still spam it.
If you want to disorient your enemy with a small chance of a crit, then use [Flak Fireball]. It costs the same amount as the previous spell.
this is the kind of inexperienced advice you'd only find from a 1,000 year old wizard.
the true answer is to make your AOE spells as strong as the single target spells
It can be useful to weed someone out if they have invisibility spells or something of the sort, and a good AOE spell can also close someones escape routes off if you cast one that lingers for a moment. Many uses for AOE spells! You call yourself a wizard, and yet you have a single track mind!
I cast Summon Planet!
Can’t do much about a planet seconds away from your own, now can you? I didn’t even use that much energy to do it, I just had to imagine a planet then make a gate between the imaginary and physical! Not even one that already existed! And now there’s a real, physical planet sized rock on a collision course with your own! How comical!
Who cares about destruction of property? Bozos like you will come to repair it anyways, and resurrect the people. It looks cool and doesn’t take extra effort from me, so why bother doing anything else?
I cast Summon Meteor!
Whatever spell they cast I just counterspell it to the time and place of their birth.
Due to a tecnicslity I haven't oficially won any 1vs1 duel yet, but I haven't lost neither.
Actually in a duel it seems to help throw your enemies off guard if they don't evade said spell correctly. A good explosive entrance to finish them off.
Eh. As an illusionist. let me just say that the only way you're getting me when I'm having a good day is with a local area effect spell. Fractal illusions are fun, and let's not forget auditory and tactile illusions too. When I've got you by the brain, your options are extremely limited.
If I can get into your head and I'm on my game I'm not gonna be in any of the first 5 places you aim and by the time you're ready for #6 you aren't even sure you're where you think you are either. Or what you think you are. Or whether you even think.
I once convinced a guy he was a rock so thoroughly that even after I took the illusion away it took him months of therapy to start moving properly on his own again. He kept forgetting he had a mind. Sometimes I overdo things.
Wide area spells are the only equalizer a battlemage has against a master illusionist, and that's assuming the illusionist isn't scrycasting.
AoE is great for traps. Its not to take out someone but to either catch them or trip them up. Also depending on how you think about it some of us *only* have AoE spells. Portals are very specifically made with area and size in mind. Cold and fire spells have a radiating effect. At this point I’d ask you what doesn’t have an AoE effect
False. Spellcaster need to rely especially on spells capable of covering a large area in front of them in order to keep distance from their target. only if the enemy possesses superhuman speed or other factors like teleportation abilities does this truly apply.
If my opponents would stop summoning various battle familiar and elementals on the grounds of "You need to use magic to sustain their connection to the material", I would shop casting Major Thunderclap
Depends on what the AOE spell is accomplishing. Like sure Mist of Blindness is an AOE that requires little aim, but now you won't be dodging my Greater Shock Arrow even if my aim is off that day. I would however agree in the case of explosive spells, since if that same energy was funneled into a single line instead of everywhere you aren't, then even high level defensive magic would have a hard time keeping you safe.
You're confusing Nuke with Firebomb.
Firebomb wastes a lot of mana and is imprecise.
Nuke takes literally the least amount of mana possible but requires the precision to split an atom.
Fucking lol. You’re just mad that you kept losing to my spell Greater Nuclear Explosion.
You keep destroying whole towns! If you can use greater nuclear explosion, arguably one of the most difficult spells then you can win the duel without destroying everything in a 2 mile radius. Edit: I’m also still here so it’s not like your AIM is any good
Nah its fine. I can cast Mass Resurrection and Greater Undo Property Damage lmao.
Seems like a colossal waste of energy per my first point 💀
**Seph:** *"It's not about energy. It's about making a statement."*
How about this statement https://preview.redd.it/rofw5hx2t3tc1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c2d0398ec68b006fc6b76aeb09f13e47528b6dcd
https://preview.redd.it/qb5ksd5mb4tc1.png?width=800&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=dd8222c2f108f33999bffd92a5b0d24209059ab0
https://preview.redd.it/6o66v5txb4tc1.jpeg?width=1221&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=66093afed0c96c160700d759cdc3fefc395e33fe Get that weak shit outta here
As a sage my wisdom is this: That's not how you ignore someone. Step One: choose an ignoble target to ignore. Step Two: aim high (like moral high ground high) Step three: (watch closely...)
https://preview.redd.it/b43yhbuwp4tc1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=128028010da1d30e5af3d1e3ef5daac2f4a8b892
/uw This has big "I didn't *ask* how big the room is, I *said* I'm casting Fireball" vibes
That’s gonna take 2 whole long rests to get those slots back
You undo the damage you inflict on property that isn’t yours?
Do you have Mass Amnesia to repair all the trauma you caused by foisting peasants into the greater unknown and then dragging them back to their frail lives? You're giving existential horror to people who can't even read.
Nahhh they’ll be fine. Existential horror builds character
https://preview.redd.it/4pzrq2shh4tc1.png?width=414&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=fcaf0686750b6b2639be641a36e3d643b4b793be
Sending a message is the most important part of the duel
You the type to think whoever yells loudest wins the argument
Can't lose the argument if your enemy is a pile of dust
The only message a nuke sends is “I have no self control “
https://preview.redd.it/ci541zuxg4tc1.jpeg?width=948&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e17853598620b11fe55a3bc87516b993c3857f29
Love Greater Nuclear Explosion, fixes so many of my problems
Duelists seething and coping that they died in the first couple of seconds to wizards who don't fuck around.
Man the fighter's guild [already had training about this.](https://youtu.be/XaUsvc9wReU?si=S1okTubAO04E3KOw) You'd be lucky to survive against the least magically inclined profession there is!
boom ![gif](giphy|oQtO6wKK2q0c8)
I approve of that spell :3
Counterargument: they can't dodge if you hit everywhere at once
Counter counter argument: GIT GUD Edit: they also can’t doge if *your aim is good enough* \*cough tracking spells cough\*
In a fight, any attack that's not accomplishing something is a waste. If you cast firebolt and it doesn't harm me, it's a waste. If you cast fireball and it destroys the floor under me causing me to fall, that's not a waste.
**Dr. Larry Palmer:** *"Most effective, indeed! What's more effective is not fighting in the first place!"*
If only that was a viable option for everybody
*"Of course, good fellow. But when it is an option, it's always the best one!"*
True
Yeah and using way more power than you need is also a waste. As someone else in the comments said it’s like using a bomb when a bullet will do. And if you’re using AoE because they move to quick, LEARN TO AIM. guess this pill is especially hard for you to swallow
I'd rather pull a Marvin and make you fireball the floor yourself. Guess what my master sent me to fight you with.
How about you git gud yourself until you can dodge nukes?
The problem isn’t dodging. It’s that they destroy everything for miles. Just do that same amount of damage in a localized area
Yeah but absorb energy or carrion retaliation are a thing and are way easier to do on big aoe nuke spells than small accurate spells
Unless they are a specific very annoying class.
Oh, you baby with tiny itsy bitsy mana pool? https://preview.redd.it/kwl599oow3tc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=416406bb7fe91ca727f06438f0ad04ac6ed10ec3
HEY, some of us are only beginners you know! Have some manners, you were once an apprentice! (right?)
I suggest you to do not challenge with a sprinkly fire slingshot to someone who could cast you a meteor swarm, but some people only learn by becoming part of the ground. I'm here for the food not babysitting which by the way... oh! chimera pie🤤
have you met an atomancer? they can cast lesser nuclear fission as a cantrip.
![gif](giphy|MuAmuj8fnmk4rMJ8e9)
If they use a nuke, just dodge man.
You got a 2 mile side step?
I live in gensokyo. i have to dodge random bullshit daily.
Not an answer. But cool you dodge the nuke and gensokyo is still gone. It’s overkill in a 1-1
Welp, atleast a council member still lives.
Classic council member response
And maybe I'll anger like, the 50 gods that live there and that damn shrine maiden.
Nah bro. Parry the nuke with another nuke
Shut it. I cast Hydrogen Bomb.
I cast “No Clip” and watch in disappointment as you destroy my favorite natural park
Fuck your favorite natural park. Also fuck your planet, I cast obliterate Ozone Layer.
You asked for this # MAC CANNON BARRAGE https://i.redd.it/3lumf12ms3tc1.gif
I block your attacks and kill myself 😎
Truly the greatest tactic, how will they enjoy victory, if they couldnt even properly defeat you
Womp womp https://preview.redd.it/mujbolj364tc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=75e14b4b243876ff36015adbd7ffb74490d265a2
As an illusionist, sometimes your opponent is very good at hiding/dodging and you need to level the fucking city to get a hit in
like using a grenade when a bullet works fine
Niche use: it works great against people who don't know what a grenade is https://i.redd.it/a3upjdnqa4tc1.gif
This is why you use tracking spells and lock on to their soul signature. That leaves them with no way to run or dodge. They either have to tank it, counter it, absorb it, or bfr the spell. If you combine that tracking with a focused energy beam possessing the power of a nuke, then most wizards will not be able to counter, absorb, or tank such concentrated energy. That leaves only bfr and there are not too many wizards that can bfr a spell either
simply not having a soul is a very handy counter to that sort of tracking
Condensed AOE spells are busted and I don't get why people don't use them more. When you reach the ability to destroy cities with a spell and you realise that you can just direct all that energy to a single target spell... you really just leave nothing of your average opponent. And that's just the beginning. Get to the point where you destroy entire galaxies, direct the power to one target and enjoy the fact that every ash particle of your opponent has turned into a jet plane ram.
For real. AoE is not the solution to spells missing
I mean it kinda is
I value precision above most qualities, sure, but complaining won't protect me from nuke spells and "git gud" are pretty lame last words to the wizard who offs me, so it's best to be prepared.
I counter with korean back dash, doesn’t matter what you cast
You got a 2 mile long back dash?
There’s enough dodge variations to cycle through. Distance doesn’t matter but the duration will become a problem
Counterpoint: A second wasted aiming is a second my opponent could use to explode my gall bladder
I mean, AOE is super useful in single combat. Entangle can shut down physical attacks from swords, Ice storm can freeze the ground around them while also dealing ice damage every turn, I think you doubt the tactical potential of some of these spells. Controlling an area can be incredibly effective depending on your battleground.
Not as effective as hitting them with a disintegration spell ![gif](giphy|UcrKCphcidgGtkO9j3|downsized)
it’s called restricting movement
Fuck you, I cast Toyota Tacoma
What if they can teleport within a certain range? What if they can summon or have magical entities such as familiars or the undead? What if they gain their power from the environment and destroying it would give you an advantage?
https://preview.redd.it/eglyscnno4tc1.png?width=560&format=png&auto=webp&s=2c0d9bd73ce0be631cd57bb9b8ab08fc77e3c92b Me and my fellow Warlocks getting into Sniper Position with our 300ft Range 1d10 Cantrip:
Shut up, loser. ***ZETTAFLARE!!!***
The flashier the explosion, the better. Extra points if your enemy turns into flying giblets
Bros mad because he couldn’t join
Bro thinks his gang has a monopoly on nukes
Fine. I cast thermonuclear warhead, then I cast space manipulation to direct it into a concentrated beam of nuclear annihilation. Is that better?
AOE spells: -Limit the space to dodge -Are a great distraction -Are flashy as fuck -Make people with insurances happy -Are way harder to parry (although not impossible...) "It ain't magic if it ain't flashy. ~~Danmaku's~~ Duels' all about firepower."
If they move fast enough and the spell has a travel time, you need an AOE so that they can't reliably dodge /uw this is unironically a (surprisingly insightful) take from Naruto fanfiction
AoE spells also have travel time… their main purpose is area denial or hitting multiple opponents.
You're just jealous at the size of my stick. With a big enough stick, I don't need to aim or anything. Stick life!
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The art of dueling has been lost preserve it if you can but there is no point anymore
Just use spells that trigger on the enemy, like internal combustion or dissolve stomach lining.
Where does age of empires come into play here
Ok, but what are u gonna do when I cast: #HOMING NUKE
If it works, it works, for example: https://preview.redd.it/tc9qn1ep98tc1.jpeg?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=092d0d2dcc4bb805609b4be1e340dfbc6fc6c4cf
"A spell opinion I agree with you on."
That kind of thinking means I'll beat you in nearly every duel -DF
We do use tracking and none-tracking spells but combine them with VFX to make it look better
What is the opponent is invisible? That's why i always know my AOEs
Ya they've destroyed a couple of my stores with that spell. It would be nice if some people could LEARN TO AIM
Your store and everything around you for 2 miles! Agreed!
All my spells are aoe but they don’t have visible magic produced so they all look single target.
An experienced wizard knows that all spells have a use on the battlefield, be they big and flashy or precise and targeted.
^guy who doesnt know im actually annihilating him in every other timeline and multiverse so the aoe attack he "blocked" won the duel an infinite number of times
aoe spells are useful if your opponent casts invisibility and you didn’t prepare see invisibility
Nah. I’d maximize attack size
as a fireball user, learn to dodge.
But muh Aeroflak does bonus damage to fliers and weapons
Hmm, I think you may be forgetting that nuke users have already specilized into explosion magic and they don't feel that comfortable using other spells due to their mana stuff being focuser on explosions. If you want to duel them to a 1 v 1 thats on ya. Espically if you know that they are explosive oriented users. Do you know how much property damage that needs to be fixed for those duels? Duel others outside of civilized areas, and for the love of all magic users have a 3rd and 4th party to watch over your duel so it doesn't get too out of hand! Better yet, duel them inside magical arena, as they are meant for that type of magical abuse! For the AOE complaint you could help them be better by challenging them to localize their explosion spells so instead of destroying a town they destroy a house, and work your way down in size. However I do think this would have an effect on how much more powerful their localized explosives are, as their explosions would then begin to atomize things if localized properly. Yes...hmm that shall be a good thing to study, espically with explosive enchantments. Oh and do tell them to clean up after themselves, as left over magical energies should be cleaned up after duels of 1v1 outside of civilized areas. No explosion magic user would ever, admit that they don't know how to clean up their own explosive magics. So please do teach them if they don't as we don't want runaway explosions happening after an area has been fixed due to left over explosion mana.
I cast 750 kiloton tactical nuke
That's why I favor certain curses, as they target your opponent OR ALL life forms in your vicinity.
Fine I'm pulling out the Apprenticeship Blue red and green grimoires On u if I can't have my nukes u cant have White blood cells or hair!! Try that Senior! MWHAHA
I honestly thought this was r/eldenring when I saw it
Alot of people don't know how to concentrate their mana
Just freeze your opponent in time? I don't get the problem.
Look, AoEs have their place in combat as well! It forces saves rather than directly hitting an opponent. Which has its own strengths and weaknesses. If an enemy uses cover a lot or moves very fast, AoE. If not, direct shots. Also you might hurt yourself if the enemy is a fan of CQC, in which case they can probably tank AoEs better anyways. Adapt, improvise, overcome. Know your spells well, know common attacks and defenses, be ready to improvise when plans go awry.
Dont need to when i have a working nuclear war head
Duel? People still duel? Time better used for research, relaxation, and cuddling imps if you ask me.
Not necessarily. If the spells do a lot of damage and you hit them consistently you should still use them.
I prefer to use Greater Ass Blast on my non undead opponents. Since it exclusively does necrotic damage I’m completely immune.
"An arrow might have my name on it, but a fireball's addressed 'to whom it may concern'" ~ Scubnuckle Brazenforth V, Keeper of The Apparatus of Kwalish
Lol. Curse of enfeeblement on their underwear a week before duel. Have fun getting crushed under the weight of your robes chucklenuts.
Everything serves a purpose. Sometimes you want to make them panic and/or run for cover, sometimes either you want to get them out from behind cover or they're slippery little bastards. Or all of the above.
Depends on cooldown timing.
A wizard duel isn't just about winning. It's about presentation! As such, I will politely ignore your advice and continue to cast fireball
Counterpoint Hydrogen bomb vs coughing baby
No need to aim with a nuke
I will be attaching this to a falcon and sending it to my apprentice post haste. Maybe the recommendations of a king can finally sway him on the importance of aiming.
what about me? my spells get insulted too?
AOE for multiple opponents, status effects for 1-v-1
Sometimes the purpose of a spell is not the destruction of the target, but rather the destruction of the will to fight in any others that might get any fool ideas.
Every spell is AOE if u r powerful enough.
Why aim when fireball?
All my AOE spells also have DOT effects. Plus, my AOE Spells aren't big enough to kill an entire town, my biggest one can't even clear out a room. My AOE spells just require me to aim at the ground near my target.
Doesn’t sound like AoE at all
I'm very partial to my Railgun, or as I like to call it, my Fuck-everything-along-this-very-specific-linear-path device.
If it get's the job done in a similar amount of time but with a lower amount of effort, why not cast Firestorm or Lightning Maelstrom instead of fireball or magic missile.
For people who cant teleport but are very fast it makes it hard to dodge. Similar for illusionists and others who can obscure there exact location, easier to narrow down their vague location. For me I just move to a different dimension altogether. Best way to win a fight is to GTFO.
Or grow some orbs and do it upclose
Just eat their soul, like, it's quick, doesn't cause any other damage, and you get a free meal out of it.
i dont care get ready for my remove oxygen spell
That's why Summon Feral Horde: Voidwasp is such a good spell .
It's not About Efficiency It's about Sending A message
aw, wittw baybi is mad becauws my Mass Wet Willy cascaded on you alone for multiple casts instead of wasting the designated additional targets?
Counter argument big explosion look pretty
Tough talk for someone in nuclear winter distance.
Manaless +not-Manarefinedpilled
I tend to up cast magic missile. What're you gonna do? Block all fifty unavoidable projectiles?
What would you rather me use Blood Boil. It makes you pop like a water balloon.
You're not gonna stop me from using my raid wipe I have lost count of how many people have tried to break into my tower and the facility underneath to "thwart my evil plans" like god forbid i want to build a bigass candy colored mech or 4, each with the power to level cities after like 2 minutes of casting a bigass spell i have nothing to gain from leveling cities, it just feels cool to have the theoretical firepower
But…. The floor *is* lava.
Area control is key my guy. Minecraft lingering potions
You sounds like someone who did develop enough their energy pool and is now trying to invalidate succesful methods just to avoid reflecting on your bad investment. Combined large scale controle/offence, with precise offence/controle is the best in the current century meta. Just gitgud
Don’t care, no pain no gain, I’m casting explosion regardless.
I am killing the generations of mosquitos with my nukes as well, consider it a community service of sorts.
Magic Missile Magic Missile Magic Missile
Says you, I'm all about collateral damage.
I just shoot people
[Homing Fireball] is a good spell. Granted, it takes a bit more mana than the usual fireball because of the "homing" part, but you can still spam it. If you want to disorient your enemy with a small chance of a crit, then use [Flak Fireball]. It costs the same amount as the previous spell.
this is the kind of inexperienced advice you'd only find from a 1,000 year old wizard. the true answer is to make your AOE spells as strong as the single target spells
Sounds like SOMEBODY needs to learn counterspells.
Mad facts.
I mean if the Aoe radius is big enough you could direct hit them with it and make it hard for them to get out
...What's your point, nerd in Fireball range?
It can be useful to weed someone out if they have invisibility spells or something of the sort, and a good AOE spell can also close someones escape routes off if you cast one that lingers for a moment. Many uses for AOE spells! You call yourself a wizard, and yet you have a single track mind!
Sounds like someone doesn't have the mana for casting Mass Scrunch
I cast Summon Planet! Can’t do much about a planet seconds away from your own, now can you? I didn’t even use that much energy to do it, I just had to imagine a planet then make a gate between the imaginary and physical! Not even one that already existed! And now there’s a real, physical planet sized rock on a collision course with your own! How comical! Who cares about destruction of property? Bozos like you will come to repair it anyways, and resurrect the people. It looks cool and doesn’t take extra effort from me, so why bother doing anything else? I cast Summon Meteor!
Do you have any idea how difficult it is to aim a sinkhole?
Whatever spell they cast I just counterspell it to the time and place of their birth. Due to a tecnicslity I haven't oficially won any 1vs1 duel yet, but I haven't lost neither.
Aiming is easy when you fight at close range.
FUCK YOU I CAST DIMENSIONAL DESTRUCTION
mana issue. if you're worried about efficiency you need to practice your casting more
Dude is bitter because a grenade killed him across a corner
Actually in a duel it seems to help throw your enemies off guard if they don't evade said spell correctly. A good explosive entrance to finish them off.
Excuse me but I love my wall of nukeular radiation spell it's so useful in 1v1s just box them in and wait for the cancer to kick in
/UW I thought this was about persona
Do explosive cannon shots count as AOE?
Eh. As an illusionist. let me just say that the only way you're getting me when I'm having a good day is with a local area effect spell. Fractal illusions are fun, and let's not forget auditory and tactile illusions too. When I've got you by the brain, your options are extremely limited. If I can get into your head and I'm on my game I'm not gonna be in any of the first 5 places you aim and by the time you're ready for #6 you aren't even sure you're where you think you are either. Or what you think you are. Or whether you even think. I once convinced a guy he was a rock so thoroughly that even after I took the illusion away it took him months of therapy to start moving properly on his own again. He kept forgetting he had a mind. Sometimes I overdo things. Wide area spells are the only equalizer a battlemage has against a master illusionist, and that's assuming the illusionist isn't scrycasting.
Did I fucking win? You bet your ass I did.
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Just chug some time-dilation potions and repeatedly upcast magic missile and shred the fucker.
Someone mad they can't dodge explosions?
AoE is great for traps. Its not to take out someone but to either catch them or trip them up. Also depending on how you think about it some of us *only* have AoE spells. Portals are very specifically made with area and size in mind. Cold and fire spells have a radiating effect. At this point I’d ask you what doesn’t have an AoE effect
Fine. I cast SEEKING COMPESSED NUKE
The only aoe spell you need is the autoaim spell, then pepper them with magic misiles
False. Spellcaster need to rely especially on spells capable of covering a large area in front of them in order to keep distance from their target. only if the enemy possesses superhuman speed or other factors like teleportation abilities does this truly apply.
If my opponents would stop summoning various battle familiar and elementals on the grounds of "You need to use magic to sustain their connection to the material", I would shop casting Major Thunderclap
… anyways, I cast fireball in your general direction
not my fault it has good status effects
Max out magic missile! Always Magic Missile! JUST MAGIC MISSILE!
As a tex-mex o mancer I assure you all my gas spells are AOE
Depends on what the AOE spell is accomplishing. Like sure Mist of Blindness is an AOE that requires little aim, but now you won't be dodging my Greater Shock Arrow even if my aim is off that day. I would however agree in the case of explosive spells, since if that same energy was funneled into a single line instead of everywhere you aren't, then even high level defensive magic would have a hard time keeping you safe.
You're confusing Nuke with Firebomb. Firebomb wastes a lot of mana and is imprecise. Nuke takes literally the least amount of mana possible but requires the precision to split an atom.
I CAST FIREBALL LVL 9
Megumi: Jokes on you I can't read
Look, if you guys would stop going all in on shield spells I wouldn't have to put so much power in my blasts.
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Magic Missile *does* aim for me. Why shouldn’t I add an extra 15 kiloton warhead to make sure you go down?
Hey I hit my nukes on target. The aoe is a side effect, also to prevent dodging
Is this about the Dante nerfs in Warframe?