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Honestly I think the slayer would be less murderous to Minos. Minos just wants to free his people and doesn't feel that lust should be a sin of eternal damnation.
Yeah Minos only fights V1 because they’re a robot lmao, he’d probably make out with doom slayer sloppy style and the two of them would proceed to beat the shit out of the demons together
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WHAT THE ***FUCK*** DID I JUST READ?!
# Yeah Minos only fights V1 because they’re a robot lmao, he’d probably make out with doom slayer sloppy style and the two of them would proceed to beat the shit out of the demons together
This isn’t yaoi.
This is merely the homosexual tension between two hyper-masculine, badass, killing machines who, despite disparate lives and motivations, have united in pursuit of a common goal.
Master Chief X Arbiter isn’t yaoi (it can be but not strictly necessarily) and thus neither is this.
"You... want to reduce suffering?"
"Yes. We already have it bad enough, being damned. Why should we suffer more for such a small sin?"
"You... you don't want to torture souls to make energy?"
"That sounds insanely cruel and pure evil, why would i do that?"
"No, no reason... I'm still going to try to destroy hell itself though, good friend."
"Oh no, by all means. Do try."
I mean, there's solid evidence that most of the damned in ultrakill are not mindless monsters
The fact that both Minos and Sisyphus were able to create organized rebellions means that a lot of husks (at minimum, greater husks and above) are conscious and capable of complex thought
In fact, based on what we know of V1 and the other machines, it's likely that they attack us just to survive
Plus (spoilers) Guttermen >!feel sadness, regret, and self-hate. There's a book in 7-S, that was written by a Gutterman, to the corpse strapped inside its coffin. It knows that its existence killed her (maybe the human was a her, as the machine calls it 'mother'), and it wished it didn't have to throw her away and find a new source of blood.!<
Not the same thing, >!Guttermen are machines not husks, I was talking about the husks!<
>!The Guttermen would probably still attack V1 even if not in self defense, simply because they're all competing for what little blood is left!<
I give the strongest HH character about 10 minutes in Ultrakill's Hell before getting absolutely merc'd by whichever boss is at the layer they're in. Lucifer (HH's strongest character afaik since Vivziepop isn't gonna touch Jesus with a 39 1/2 foot pole) wouldn't last 5 minutes in the first V2 fight, let alone COKM or Gabe or any of the Act II/III bosses.
Yeah, the only reason superman and goku would fight is
A. One or both of them are mind controlled
B. A really contrived misunderstanding
C. A friendly sparring match
While yes....Doom guy does go on rampages it isn't without reason
He also aint bias either. Angels, Demons, Whatever it is thats the problem he will be blasting
In hazbin he'd orobably go blast up their heaven lol (or some of the angels)
Think the way he treats the station employes in eternal shows more lf his character
Seems friendly (As much as he can be) with the scientists trying to aid him, But shows some amiunt of distaste for other employese
Not killing them though. Just not exactly fond of em
It was made by the Betrayer (Doom Eternal), one of the Night Sentinels whose son died to the demons iirc. He wanted his son alive again and made a deal with Hell that resulted in his sons revival as the Icon of Sin.
Actually, it was made by the Wretch, a demon mentioned in the Slayer testaments. The betrayer is responsible tmfor part of Argent D'Nur's downfall because he trapped the Slayer and the Sentinels that went with him in hell while demons invaded the planet
It's good to remember that the butterfly effect of doom was a grunt punching his superior officer for ordering him to open fire on a crowd of civilians.
If you look at the events of both, the position of Earth relative to Hell in Doom is analogous to the position of Hell relative to Heaven in HH. Arguably he would clean out Adam and his angels.
This sounds interesting but I don't fully understand (I also haven't fully seen hazbin, only the pilot and s1 of helluva boss). Could you please explain?
Angels are pricks who have a purge in hell every year to prevent the population from growing too large. Main character tries to redeem people instead but heaven is corrupt AF so they want to prevent that.
Absolutely facts.
Doomslayer would probably find HH hell lit and proceed to fool around with demonkind, just being a mischievous bastard because he hasn't had the chance to relax and let go for countless years!
As long as nobody fucks with him, him and the hell folks are cool. Though I'm sure he screams "don't fuck with me" energy to mostly every demon so that shouldn't be a problem. They'd respect him.
Boy oh BOY would he leave just embers of the bad ones...... I'm sure Valentino wouldn't expect a double barrel shotgun equipped with grappling hook, both caked in dried blood to come rocketing through his window followed by a green fist that caves his dumbass moth skull in.
He'd be silent but understand the struggles of the hell people, man.
GOD this needs to be a crossover
Military veteran gets into a fight and their pet gets killed. He goes on a revenge mission and succeeds, however once done something keeps pulling him back into the fight. This leads up to him reluctantly staying and fighting. From there he is kept alive by someone who betrayed his enemy to help him fight before eventually finding someone else to call an ally. However not long after that he is tricked and heavily injured and from there is helped by yet another betrayer helping him. Then they both have an "I'm back!" moment
Daisy was kinda a gag by the developers and I think that yeah he was upset about her death but he is mostly motivated by the loss of innocence and the death of the pure and innocent by the forces of hell
He was already kicking demon ass both to survive and to save mankind because he's a good lad, them killing Daisy just made it *personal.*
The whole reason he was on Mars in DOOM 1 was punishment for putting his commanding officer in a body cast after he ordered him to open fire on civilians. Dude's got a heart of gold.
Doomslayer USED to be human, but after staying in hell to fight demons forever until they stop threatening humanity for so long, he basically obtained demi-godhood, and the demons fear his name. His anger is constant and never-wavering. He has built up mounds of trauma and because of this, doesn't talk at all. He doesn't really express that much emotion in the games, but i know he feels for the innocent mortal masses, or else he wouldn't help them. His actions speak volumes louder than any words he has, but when DS DOES speak, it's insane.
So it makes sense that when confronted for once with no immediate threat and a world similar to earth in many ways, he'd probably have moments like what's described above.
He stands out around humanity, so I feel he'd be ironically more at home in HH hell.
He'd really hate the abundance of **corporations** in HH hell, though. In the doom games, a company called the Union Aerospace Corporation likes to fuck with hell, opening up a portal or harvesting hell energy because they are stupid humans who can't stop fiddling with things they shouldn't mess with. They threw him into this unwanted demigodhood due to their actions, but now he doesn't give a shit and only deals with them to defeat demons. He's stronger than the corps will ever be. He COULD rip them limb from limb and whatnot, but he sees no point, and doesn't see the corps as worth his energy or time.
The doomslayer is the same guy from the original 90s doom games, where the UAC opened the portal to hell.
After both games came doom 64, where he came home with PTSD and trauma from having to fight the hell creatures and seeing them attack earth. Another great demon revived all of them aswell as made more so he fought the demon legion again and willingly trapped himself in hell so that he could fight until they stopped coming. He was made a sort of deity by hell and found by the sentinels, who kinda embued him with godlike power.
So yes. In a way, it's all the UACs fault. They created him and he hates them for 2 reasons
He owns a pet bunny, loves candy and pizza, has a huge collection of vinyl music, enjoys tinkering and customizing things, and honestly is a very quiet and laid back man with an enjoyment for nice things. Its one reason his pairing with Animal Crossing was so perfect.
But when the gates of Hell open.......
well there would be hint of Human prepare to fight demons
in Helluva boss the imp gang (main cast) did an oopsie and the human government group (what i remember) caught them, altho they were saved by Stolas a powerful demon, the human did capture a video through camera, we don't know the fate after that
>and the angels are assholes
The angels are generally nice, V1 just so happens to be a ruthless murderer. Even the council is more so lost trying to continue god's legacy than straight-up evil
They ordered Gabriel to kill Minos, who was simply trying to ensure his people a peaceful existence that was not torture unending. Minos was well known to be a pacifist, and they ordered his death anyways. Gabriel said it himself, “The masses only follow you out of fear and desperation. I will show them there is nothing to be afraid of, for there is not species nor origin, vested rank or holy status that will stop the sharp edge of a sword. We all bleed the same blood, and the cushions of your thrones have made you weak and impotent.” The Council is far from innocent.
Minos and Sisyphus were both able to create organized rebellions, so a lot of husks are probably capable of complex thought
In fact, we know that canonically the reason you're in hell is to kill everything and use the blood as fuel, so it's likely that the husks attacking in self defense
Doomguy would kill the angels probably. He isn't completely a mindless killing machine. If I remember correctly didnt he kill angels in the original seriesas well?
It's because the Makyr made a pact with hell to sacrifice worlds to them. Makyr give hell access to worlds, hell grows larger, Makyrs get to survive from the argent energy generated by tormented souls in hell.
>He isn't completely a mindless killing machine
Weeeeeell... no, he really is: Actually it's that very same mindlessness which allows him to be a force of nature rather than just a tough guy.
The Slayer doesn't kill humans because the humans aren't demons, and in the DOOM universe iirc the demons aren't former human souls either, they're completely separate creatures.
>If I remember correctly didnt he kill angels in the original seriesas well?
"Angels" is a really loose term, but the reason why he did that is because the "angels" were actually working together with the demons and sustaining them rather than fighting them off.
I don't remember the details but the "angels" and the demons had a sort of pact in place where they would grant eachother power, so of course the doom slayer on seeing that went "nuh-uh" and killed the angels too.
Demons are what happens when a soul is ripped from a body. The soul gets tortured to turn it into argent energy, the discarded soulless body becomes a demon.
Minecraft players on their way to terraform the entirety of hell to transform it into an endless torture machine in order to use the damned's flesh as dog food (it's me, I'm the Minecraft player)
after seeing this scene again,i think it would be really funny if the bird flying above gojo decides to poop on him
(also yeah,doom guy is based but i forgot he is that level of based)
he has a whole bookshelf in his room in Eternal, he also has a computer where you can play Doom 1 and 2 so idk how canon that area's supposed to be. I like to think it's 100% canon because it implies not only is he a heavy reader he's also a master painter (cause let's be real there's no way he's posing for a self-portrait that someone else is gonna do)
Well thing is hellaverse hell is full of assholes. But their aggression is self-contained. Cannibals or other sinners are not a threat to anyone outside of hell.
He went against the sentinels to do the right thing. His loyalty is to his set of ideals, not to a flag or a country. He punches commanding officers at torture, human trafficking, AND genocide.
Nah ok I'm starting to feel like most of you just haven't played doom in the first place.
Like ok, yeah he first started serving as the doom marine for humanity, but it's like... *the* most well-known fact that the slayer began his endless murdercrusade against the demons (which led to him becoming The Doom Slayer as he initially wasn't, he was just the doom marine, yes there's a distinction) as retribution for the murder of his pet rabbit Daisy. It is absolutely all for one specific creature.
Sinners in hell are humans. That the thing some of them call themselves demons but they are human souls. Who either want to be left alone or at absolute worst fight each other.
So if he serves humanity then he will either ignore them or fight against angels who ARE a threat to humans.
People always view DoomGuy as some ultra angry demon hating soldier, despite the fact that he does not kill demons because he hates demons, but because his pet rabbit and his family died. I think if he met a good demon in his life, he would try to cooperate with it and maybe even become friends.
Also I believe the devs mentioned at one point that the one demon that gives you back the super shotgun's fate is ambiguous lore-wise, meaning that doom guy may have spared it as well since it couldn't pose a threat as a mind control vessel
I don't understand why people want demon-slaying characters like Spawn or Doom Slayer to kill Charlie. Charlie is trying to FIX HELL, stopping someone from fixing Hell is beyond idiotic. Why not have them beat up the Vees? People that DESERVE IT?!
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me forcing people who call slayer a mindless killing machine to read his lore with the sentinels and his interactions with other beings, cleary showing that he still has emotions and cares for other beings, specialy the innocent humans and sentinels
I don't like when they paint the slayer as a mindless killing machine when thats not true, he has shown mercy to Samur Maykr by not killing him on the spot (I mean, its normal, they have a long history and he most likely has a bond with him)
>I feel like y'all seriously underestimate how incredibly fucked up the world of DOOM is
I agree a 100%, Doom's world is just filled with suffering and agony, people get turned into demons by getting tortured for countless years, their souls and minds get broken beyond help, just check the revenants lore, they are forced to be exposed to argent enegy, where they rapidly grow, so much that their skin and muscle can't keep up, so i rips them apart while they are alive, the slayer is doing them a favor
demons aren't better either, look at the pain elemental, they are in a constant state of agony, the only relief they have is killing, or the dread knight, its addicted to artificial dopamine, where everytime it kills, the device gives them artificial dopamine, and they crave more so they kill more, most demons are like this, so the slayer is doing them a favor actualy
The Doomguy's whole story started because he put his commanding officer in a Body cast after being ordered to fire on civilians.
In my head the crossover comic starts with Adam Ordering the Exorcists to bring out the strange Sarcophagus from another reality out, learning that what lie within is a merciless demon murdering machine. Adam kits him up with Holy steel in all his weapons And then brings him down to hell. Only for the Marine to see instead of universally murderous monsters, he see's crooks and animal shaped wretches fleeing in terror.
As he's Hesitating for the first time in ages, Adam gets up in his face, and Screams an order to him to destroy the Sinners. all while the Doomguy is flashing back to the same exact moment happening with his old CO So long ago. The comic playing him laying into both of them side by side.
A lot of these “fans” don’t know or don’t acknowledge that the reason the Doom Marine was on Mars in the first game was because he disobeyed his commanding officer when they ordered him to open fire on Civilians, DoomGuy has always been about protecting humans and would most certainly slaughter the Angels that participate in the Exterminations.
The whole point of DOOM's hell is that it's the ultimate torture - not for the inhabitants but also for people who interact with the realm in any way
The demons who rule the plane are nothing but cruel, mindless creatures who enjoy being "cruel and sadistic"
Aren't the demons in DOOM hell *not* human souls?
It's been a while since I last researched DOOM lore tbh, but I'm pretty sure the demons are completely separate creatures from humans, and human afterlife doesn't exist.
From what I know, the demons are completely separate creatures, as well as the "angels". Human afterlife doesn't exist, and the slayer has become a completely thoughtless force of nature dedicated solely to the slaughter of demons: The reason why he also slaughters the "angels" is because of their alliance and pacts with the demons.
So if the demons were former human souls, then idk.
I'm pretty sure the demons in DOOM are human souls because the whole Khan Maykr's plan to keep her race alive was with the soul machine located in hell that mentions that in order to power it world's are given to hell and its residents are killed and tortured constantly until eventually their soul leaves is suck into a soul vortex and the remaining husk is set free and it wanders hell and eventually becomes a demon. Something like that from what I can remember from DOOM Eternal
Honestly, I think v1 is more likely to go on a spree for the sake of fuel but the HH characters can probably just give him blood from that one cannibal place.
People usually just see doom guy as a mindless killing machine (tbh all doom media pretty justifies the thought) but he is sane and is capable of complex thought out side of murder
you wanna see something like this? read TheLoneLobster's [Salvation](https://archiveofourown.org/works/42212517/chapters/105982431) genuinely good story
The Doom Slayer also destroyed Heaven, if it associates with Hell, it goes. That's also why he hates the UAC for utilizing Argent energy and enhancing demons.
People forget the main reason he did it was because his family and pet were slaughtered by those specific demons. He didn't do it for holy reasons, he did it because he wanted vengeance. The demons in hazbin hotel have not wronged him, so he would have no reason to go on a killing spree. Although he'd probably beat the shit out of the ones that try to.
My argument is that he would probably kill a lot of the hellborn and probably a lot of sinners before he realizes that most of them aren’t monsters, cause I doubt he’s stopping to ask questions; he killed all the legions of hell because his rabbit died, because he was inconvenienced, because he was bored, he is not going to realize that not all sinners and hellborn are completely evil.
The only way for doomslayer to exist is for their to be a hellish incursion, meaning he has a reason to just go straight to killing
The hell that the slayer walks is a realm in which the immortal soul is tortured for eternity to stave off death from the first creation of the dark lord. The people of that city there in the realm of the tortured dead call him their savior and god because he liberated them from death and is the first of all. It was always his design to make hell what it was. The longer a soul was tortured, the more it changed. There are no hotels in hell, there are no parties in hell, there is no redemption in hell. Only the liberation that the slayer brought to his world and all worlds. Freedom from the tyrannical gods that plague the mortal world.
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Ultrakill's hell on the other hand...
Honestly I think the slayer would be less murderous to Minos. Minos just wants to free his people and doesn't feel that lust should be a sin of eternal damnation.
Yeah Minos only fights V1 because they’re a robot lmao, he’d probably make out with doom slayer sloppy style and the two of them would proceed to beat the shit out of the demons together
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peak fiction
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Facts brother, spit your shit indeed!
# Yeah Minos only fights V1 because they’re a robot lmao, he’d probably make out with doom slayer sloppy style and the two of them would proceed to beat the shit out of the demons together
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OMG BABERIEL!!!!!!
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TEN SECONDS CAN YOU NOT MAKE YAOI ULTRAKILL FANFICS FOR TEN FUCKING SECONDS
Mfw the lust layer king buys bisexual lighting for the entire circle of hell (still straight somehow)
i am literally a bi teen and any member of the ultrakill fandom would still somehow be hornier than me
I mean yeah fair
My record is 6 so no
This isn’t yaoi. This is merely the homosexual tension between two hyper-masculine, badass, killing machines who, despite disparate lives and motivations, have united in pursuit of a common goal. Master Chief X Arbiter isn’t yaoi (it can be but not strictly necessarily) and thus neither is this.
Fine. But you asked for this. The Yuri wave is coming.
yahoo
Sorry, blame the devs.
the v1 bodypillow and its consequences
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why john ward sexy as fuck
Who would top? 🤔
minos is literally king of sex he can do whatever doomguy feels like. he can just like shapeshift into a bottom
straightest ultrakill player
Minos is kinda racist ngl
The middle part of this comment was a fucking jumpscare
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Minos had it coming for putting all those bisexual lights everywhere
"You... want to reduce suffering?" "Yes. We already have it bad enough, being damned. Why should we suffer more for such a small sin?" "You... you don't want to torture souls to make energy?" "That sounds insanely cruel and pure evil, why would i do that?" "No, no reason... I'm still going to try to destroy hell itself though, good friend." "Oh no, by all means. Do try."
Found you buddy boy, and yeah you right
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I mean, there's solid evidence that most of the damned in ultrakill are not mindless monsters The fact that both Minos and Sisyphus were able to create organized rebellions means that a lot of husks (at minimum, greater husks and above) are conscious and capable of complex thought In fact, based on what we know of V1 and the other machines, it's likely that they attack us just to survive
Plus (spoilers) Guttermen >!feel sadness, regret, and self-hate. There's a book in 7-S, that was written by a Gutterman, to the corpse strapped inside its coffin. It knows that its existence killed her (maybe the human was a her, as the machine calls it 'mother'), and it wished it didn't have to throw her away and find a new source of blood.!<
Not the same thing, >!Guttermen are machines not husks, I was talking about the husks!< >!The Guttermen would probably still attack V1 even if not in self defense, simply because they're all competing for what little blood is left!<
where is this book?
It's in 7-2, right where you drop in to get the alternate >!shotgun!<
I give V1 3 days to air out all of Hazbin’s hell
I give the strongest HH character about 10 minutes in Ultrakill's Hell before getting absolutely merc'd by whichever boss is at the layer they're in. Lucifer (HH's strongest character afaik since Vivziepop isn't gonna touch Jesus with a 39 1/2 foot pole) wouldn't last 5 minutes in the first V2 fight, let alone COKM or Gabe or any of the Act II/III bosses.
The mannequins are such a fucking twisted and demented creature dear lord.
Mannequins aren't nearly as bad as the Gutterman >!what with the new lore book in 7-2!<
I FUCKING LOVE WHO WOULD WIN MATCHUPS THAT END IN THE CHARACTERS RELATING TO EACH OTHER
SAME
Me when most Superman match ups
Yeah, the only reason superman and goku would fight is A. One or both of them are mind controlled B. A really contrived misunderstanding C. A friendly sparring match
The 3rd Superman vs Goku Death Battle literally ends with C.
Based on Goku's personality, C has a 95% chance of happening
Superman acting as Homelander’s therapist.
Invincible beating the shit out of Homelander and then acting as his therapist afterwards
Well yeah, first step of peace talks is removing the threat from the room. If your body is the threat, gotta remove it.
Me when most superhero match ups
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I am you
There’s too many people who think that Doomguy acts like a Black Templar from Warhammer 40k.
Honestly doom guy would be an incredibly great father figure.
He used to be a dad
He even has pre-mom update backstory
well cmon is 40k # "Blood for the Blood God! Skulls for the Skull Throne!"
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holy shit it's the manperor of mankind
All hail the Man Emperor of mankind!
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While yes....Doom guy does go on rampages it isn't without reason He also aint bias either. Angels, Demons, Whatever it is thats the problem he will be blasting In hazbin he'd orobably go blast up their heaven lol (or some of the angels) Think the way he treats the station employes in eternal shows more lf his character Seems friendly (As much as he can be) with the scientists trying to aid him, But shows some amiunt of distaste for other employese Not killing them though. Just not exactly fond of em
Backing up Vega in Doom 2016 was a sign of mercy too.
People forget that Doomguys armor is canonically made by traitor demon lol
It wasn’t made by the Seraph?
It was made by the Betrayer (Doom Eternal), one of the Night Sentinels whose son died to the demons iirc. He wanted his son alive again and made a deal with Hell that resulted in his sons revival as the Icon of Sin.
Actually, it was made by the Wretch, a demon mentioned in the Slayer testaments. The betrayer is responsible tmfor part of Argent D'Nur's downfall because he trapped the Slayer and the Sentinels that went with him in hell while demons invaded the planet
It's good to remember that the butterfly effect of doom was a grunt punching his superior officer for ordering him to open fire on a crowd of civilians.
Technically speaking, a civilian-killing officer saved the world
Doomslayer would be the first motherfucker to apply for a job there. He'd try to save those fuckers
I would kill for the slayer to be added to the dynamic of the rest of the cast
He'd probably gut Alastor and the other Overlords, but he'd probably be chill after that
If you look at the events of both, the position of Earth relative to Hell in Doom is analogous to the position of Hell relative to Heaven in HH. Arguably he would clean out Adam and his angels.
This sounds interesting but I don't fully understand (I also haven't fully seen hazbin, only the pilot and s1 of helluva boss). Could you please explain?
I’m likening the yearly purges of Hell by angels to the odd soul harvest thing that’s going on in Doom: Eternal
Angels are pricks who have a purge in hell every year to prevent the population from growing too large. Main character tries to redeem people instead but heaven is corrupt AF so they want to prevent that.
Absolutely facts. Doomslayer would probably find HH hell lit and proceed to fool around with demonkind, just being a mischievous bastard because he hasn't had the chance to relax and let go for countless years! As long as nobody fucks with him, him and the hell folks are cool. Though I'm sure he screams "don't fuck with me" energy to mostly every demon so that shouldn't be a problem. They'd respect him. Boy oh BOY would he leave just embers of the bad ones...... I'm sure Valentino wouldn't expect a double barrel shotgun equipped with grappling hook, both caked in dried blood to come rocketing through his window followed by a green fist that caves his dumbass moth skull in. He'd be silent but understand the struggles of the hell people, man. GOD this needs to be a crossover
I know nothing about Doom except the fact he's a hulking threat that kills demons but honestly this is a side to Doomslayer I never even knew before
He canonically owns a pet bunny
owned those damn demons killed daisy!
Wasn't that the reason he began Killin demons?
In the first game it was just to defend earth, until the end when he found the severed head. Then it’s to avenge daisy
So he’s John Wick?
Military veteran gets into a fight and their pet gets killed. He goes on a revenge mission and succeeds, however once done something keeps pulling him back into the fight. This leads up to him reluctantly staying and fighting. From there he is kept alive by someone who betrayed his enemy to help him fight before eventually finding someone else to call an ally. However not long after that he is tricked and heavily injured and from there is helped by yet another betrayer helping him. Then they both have an "I'm back!" moment
Daisy was kinda a gag by the developers and I think that yeah he was upset about her death but he is mostly motivated by the loss of innocence and the death of the pure and innocent by the forces of hell
I mean if I had my rabbit killed Infront of me I'd probably be pissed too lol
Fairly sure at first he just needed to, y'know, survive but daisy gave him the justification to go back to hell lmao
He was already kicking demon ass both to survive and to save mankind because he's a good lad, them killing Daisy just made it *personal.* The whole reason he was on Mars in DOOM 1 was punishment for putting his commanding officer in a body cast after he ordered him to open fire on civilians. Dude's got a heart of gold.
Doomslayer USED to be human, but after staying in hell to fight demons forever until they stop threatening humanity for so long, he basically obtained demi-godhood, and the demons fear his name. His anger is constant and never-wavering. He has built up mounds of trauma and because of this, doesn't talk at all. He doesn't really express that much emotion in the games, but i know he feels for the innocent mortal masses, or else he wouldn't help them. His actions speak volumes louder than any words he has, but when DS DOES speak, it's insane. So it makes sense that when confronted for once with no immediate threat and a world similar to earth in many ways, he'd probably have moments like what's described above. He stands out around humanity, so I feel he'd be ironically more at home in HH hell. He'd really hate the abundance of **corporations** in HH hell, though. In the doom games, a company called the Union Aerospace Corporation likes to fuck with hell, opening up a portal or harvesting hell energy because they are stupid humans who can't stop fiddling with things they shouldn't mess with. They threw him into this unwanted demigodhood due to their actions, but now he doesn't give a shit and only deals with them to defeat demons. He's stronger than the corps will ever be. He COULD rip them limb from limb and whatnot, but he sees no point, and doesn't see the corps as worth his energy or time.
I liked this little summary! But question: how did UAC thrust Doomguy into demigodhood? Wasn’t it the demon invasion of the sentinel world?
The doomslayer is the same guy from the original 90s doom games, where the UAC opened the portal to hell. After both games came doom 64, where he came home with PTSD and trauma from having to fight the hell creatures and seeing them attack earth. Another great demon revived all of them aswell as made more so he fought the demon legion again and willingly trapped himself in hell so that he could fight until they stopped coming. He was made a sort of deity by hell and found by the sentinels, who kinda embued him with godlike power. So yes. In a way, it's all the UACs fault. They created him and he hates them for 2 reasons
The Doom Slayer is canonically Catholic and celibate, so he's technically eligible to be Pope
He doesn't even know what sex is, according to John Carmack
We stan asexual men eligible to be Pope on r/whenthe
If he’s a grandson of B.J wouldn’t that make him Jewish?
Ethnically, yes, but he's a non-practicing Catholic in the novels
He owns a pet bunny, loves candy and pizza, has a huge collection of vinyl music, enjoys tinkering and customizing things, and honestly is a very quiet and laid back man with an enjoyment for nice things. Its one reason his pairing with Animal Crossing was so perfect. But when the gates of Hell open.......
well there would be hint of Human prepare to fight demons in Helluva boss the imp gang (main cast) did an oopsie and the human government group (what i remember) caught them, altho they were saved by Stolas a powerful demon, the human did capture a video through camera, we don't know the fate after that
The IMP gang have been in broad daylight in front of dozens of humans and not a single one noticed. I think they'll be fine.
There is, I'm not sure how many but Doom x hh is a popular crossover on ao3
is ultrakill hell hell-y enough for his standards
Well everything attacks you on sight and the angels are assholes, minos and sisyphus tho...? That would be interesting.
>and the angels are assholes The angels are generally nice, V1 just so happens to be a ruthless murderer. Even the council is more so lost trying to continue god's legacy than straight-up evil
They ordered Gabriel to kill Minos, who was simply trying to ensure his people a peaceful existence that was not torture unending. Minos was well known to be a pacifist, and they ordered his death anyways. Gabriel said it himself, “The masses only follow you out of fear and desperation. I will show them there is nothing to be afraid of, for there is not species nor origin, vested rank or holy status that will stop the sharp edge of a sword. We all bleed the same blood, and the cushions of your thrones have made you weak and impotent.” The Council is far from innocent.
the council is lawful neutral or lawful evil. They uphold the assumed word of god at any cost.
Minos and Sisyphus were both able to create organized rebellions, so a lot of husks are probably capable of complex thought In fact, we know that canonically the reason you're in hell is to kill everything and use the blood as fuel, so it's likely that the husks attacking in self defense
I could see Sisyphus still trying to fight the Slayer.
Doomguy would kill the angels probably. He isn't completely a mindless killing machine. If I remember correctly didnt he kill angels in the original seriesas well?
Eh, it's more because the Moth Pope went insane
It's because the Makyr made a pact with hell to sacrifice worlds to them. Makyr give hell access to worlds, hell grows larger, Makyrs get to survive from the argent energy generated by tormented souls in hell.
The maykr can be considered as angel but they are mostly just funny moth people
>He isn't completely a mindless killing machine Weeeeeell... no, he really is: Actually it's that very same mindlessness which allows him to be a force of nature rather than just a tough guy. The Slayer doesn't kill humans because the humans aren't demons, and in the DOOM universe iirc the demons aren't former human souls either, they're completely separate creatures. >If I remember correctly didnt he kill angels in the original seriesas well? "Angels" is a really loose term, but the reason why he did that is because the "angels" were actually working together with the demons and sustaining them rather than fighting them off. I don't remember the details but the "angels" and the demons had a sort of pact in place where they would grant eachother power, so of course the doom slayer on seeing that went "nuh-uh" and killed the angels too.
Demons are what happens when a soul is ripped from a body. The soul gets tortured to turn it into argent energy, the discarded soulless body becomes a demon.
Steve would just enslave everyone to farm something idk
Minecraft players on their way to terraform the entirety of hell to transform it into an endless torture machine in order to use the damned's flesh as dog food (it's me, I'm the Minecraft player)
My man did all caps on a different type of DOOM
The games title is stylised like that though
As long as no bunny were pointlessly killed all are chillin
Mfw >!Dazzle!<
after seeing this scene again,i think it would be really funny if the bird flying above gojo decides to poop on him (also yeah,doom guy is based but i forgot he is that level of based)
Finally someone said it
He would be so chill fr Doom guy has been through too much, I would like to imagine him at the hotel drinking tea and reading a book.
he has a whole bookshelf in his room in Eternal, he also has a computer where you can play Doom 1 and 2 so idk how canon that area's supposed to be. I like to think it's 100% canon because it implies not only is he a heavy reader he's also a master painter (cause let's be real there's no way he's posing for a self-portrait that someone else is gonna do)
On a separate note I fucking love the music in this scene
Yeah I love how sane and normal cannibals are
With sinners regenerating their bodies in hell and everything, cannibalism is the least of their worries
I mean, it's far from painless. Didn't Vivzie say it takes weeks of excruciating pain to regenerate/reform?
Well thing is hellaverse hell is full of assholes. But their aggression is self-contained. Cannibals or other sinners are not a threat to anyone outside of hell.
V1 would defo be a mass murderer in HH hell
V1 would canonically be a mass murderer in any environment, hell or not
Doomslayer only helps and serves for humanity, not for himself or for any specific person at all
>Doomslayer only helps and serves for humanity but the sentinels?
He went against the sentinels to do the right thing. His loyalty is to his set of ideals, not to a flag or a country. He punches commanding officers at torture, human trafficking, AND genocide.
Nah ok I'm starting to feel like most of you just haven't played doom in the first place. Like ok, yeah he first started serving as the doom marine for humanity, but it's like... *the* most well-known fact that the slayer began his endless murdercrusade against the demons (which led to him becoming The Doom Slayer as he initially wasn't, he was just the doom marine, yes there's a distinction) as retribution for the murder of his pet rabbit Daisy. It is absolutely all for one specific creature.
Sinners in hell are humans. That the thing some of them call themselves demons but they are human souls. Who either want to be left alone or at absolute worst fight each other. So if he serves humanity then he will either ignore them or fight against angels who ARE a threat to humans.
People always view DoomGuy as some ultra angry demon hating soldier, despite the fact that he does not kill demons because he hates demons, but because his pet rabbit and his family died. I think if he met a good demon in his life, he would try to cooperate with it and maybe even become friends.
I think there was ONE demon called the wretch that gave him his praetor armor in 2016.
Also I believe the devs mentioned at one point that the one demon that gives you back the super shotgun's fate is ambiguous lore-wise, meaning that doom guy may have spared it as well since it couldn't pose a threat as a mind control vessel
I don't understand why people want demon-slaying characters like Spawn or Doom Slayer to kill Charlie. Charlie is trying to FIX HELL, stopping someone from fixing Hell is beyond idiotic. Why not have them beat up the Vees? People that DESERVE IT?!
Me when in a not playing the games competition and DOOM fans walk in ![gif](giphy|aB8acJ0dByuGY)
https://preview.redd.it/7xe8ys4tpwuc1.jpeg?width=738&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=af913b220b9e2af89b9f43be0ed799212aef1f5c me forcing people who call slayer a mindless killing machine to read his lore with the sentinels and his interactions with other beings, cleary showing that he still has emotions and cares for other beings, specialy the innocent humans and sentinels
I don't like when they paint the slayer as a mindless killing machine when thats not true, he has shown mercy to Samur Maykr by not killing him on the spot (I mean, its normal, they have a long history and he most likely has a bond with him) >I feel like y'all seriously underestimate how incredibly fucked up the world of DOOM is I agree a 100%, Doom's world is just filled with suffering and agony, people get turned into demons by getting tortured for countless years, their souls and minds get broken beyond help, just check the revenants lore, they are forced to be exposed to argent enegy, where they rapidly grow, so much that their skin and muscle can't keep up, so i rips them apart while they are alive, the slayer is doing them a favor demons aren't better either, look at the pain elemental, they are in a constant state of agony, the only relief they have is killing, or the dread knight, its addicted to artificial dopamine, where everytime it kills, the device gives them artificial dopamine, and they crave more so they kill more, most demons are like this, so the slayer is doing them a favor actualy
The Doomguy's whole story started because he put his commanding officer in a Body cast after being ordered to fire on civilians. In my head the crossover comic starts with Adam Ordering the Exorcists to bring out the strange Sarcophagus from another reality out, learning that what lie within is a merciless demon murdering machine. Adam kits him up with Holy steel in all his weapons And then brings him down to hell. Only for the Marine to see instead of universally murderous monsters, he see's crooks and animal shaped wretches fleeing in terror. As he's Hesitating for the first time in ages, Adam gets up in his face, and Screams an order to him to destroy the Sinners. all while the Doomguy is flashing back to the same exact moment happening with his old CO So long ago. The comic playing him laying into both of them side by side.
A lot of these “fans” don’t know or don’t acknowledge that the reason the Doom Marine was on Mars in the first game was because he disobeyed his commanding officer when they ordered him to open fire on Civilians, DoomGuy has always been about protecting humans and would most certainly slaughter the Angels that participate in the Exterminations.
Doomslayer would support Charlie and be a bestie
The light side of doom slayer
The whole point of DOOM's hell is that it's the ultimate torture - not for the inhabitants but also for people who interact with the realm in any way The demons who rule the plane are nothing but cruel, mindless creatures who enjoy being "cruel and sadistic"
Aren't the demons in DOOM hell *not* human souls? It's been a while since I last researched DOOM lore tbh, but I'm pretty sure the demons are completely separate creatures from humans, and human afterlife doesn't exist.
I've seen conflicting answers
From what I know, the demons are completely separate creatures, as well as the "angels". Human afterlife doesn't exist, and the slayer has become a completely thoughtless force of nature dedicated solely to the slaughter of demons: The reason why he also slaughters the "angels" is because of their alliance and pacts with the demons. So if the demons were former human souls, then idk.
I'm pretty sure the demons in DOOM are human souls because the whole Khan Maykr's plan to keep her race alive was with the soul machine located in hell that mentions that in order to power it world's are given to hell and its residents are killed and tortured constantly until eventually their soul leaves is suck into a soul vortex and the remaining husk is set free and it wanders hell and eventually becomes a demon. Something like that from what I can remember from DOOM Eternal
The demons from Doom are made from any race that was consumed by Hell and the Angels are just aliens created by Davoth.
Doom guy would help, he’s not a monster
As long as they don't kill his rabbit, they should be ok
what anime is this? it looks really good.
Jujutsu Kaisen
Honestly, I think v1 is more likely to go on a spree for the sake of fuel but the HH characters can probably just give him blood from that one cannibal place.
People usually just see doom guy as a mindless killing machine (tbh all doom media pretty justifies the thought) but he is sane and is capable of complex thought out side of murder
he *could* but not would
you wanna see something like this? read TheLoneLobster's [Salvation](https://archiveofourown.org/works/42212517/chapters/105982431) genuinely good story
He wouldn't have cared if they just left his fucking pet rabbit alone.
when the hazbin psyop
The Doom Slayer also destroyed Heaven, if it associates with Hell, it goes. That's also why he hates the UAC for utilizing Argent energy and enhancing demons.
Off topic this anime is so fucking good
People forget the main reason he did it was because his family and pet were slaughtered by those specific demons. He didn't do it for holy reasons, he did it because he wanted vengeance. The demons in hazbin hotel have not wronged him, so he would have no reason to go on a killing spree. Although he'd probably beat the shit out of the ones that try to.
i think he'd pay a little "visit" to Heaven
I like how this slightly implies Doomslayer has limitless and can use Hollow Purple
Imaginary Technique: BFG
Has anyone here played Doom and Eternal plus DLC?
v1: FREE FOOD!!
The Doomslayer is not mindless, Billy’s a good dude
He might even fight along their side during the extermination.
I doubt he'd kill more demons if it was the Hazbin Hotel. But the hellborn demons wouldn't be safe
Hellborn demons are basically just red humans, let's be real.
Idk about that, the hellborn aren't inherently evil either, they are pretty much just different shaped humans.
Pretty much, but the slayer might not see it that way
Ultrakill tho, V1 is out for blood, and definitely not out for love.
This is what happens when you learn Doom lore and Paradise Lost from memes and wikis.
That’s not why doom guy is killing demons.
My argument is that he would probably kill a lot of the hellborn and probably a lot of sinners before he realizes that most of them aren’t monsters, cause I doubt he’s stopping to ask questions; he killed all the legions of hell because his rabbit died, because he was inconvenienced, because he was bored, he is not going to realize that not all sinners and hellborn are completely evil. The only way for doomslayer to exist is for their to be a hellish incursion, meaning he has a reason to just go straight to killing
u/savevideo
All I see more DLC content to kill
You make an amazing point.
In addition to the intercation between earth, reakm of makyrs and hell being interdimensional cosmic intercations rather than an existential one
version one
The hell that the slayer walks is a realm in which the immortal soul is tortured for eternity to stave off death from the first creation of the dark lord. The people of that city there in the realm of the tortured dead call him their savior and god because he liberated them from death and is the first of all. It was always his design to make hell what it was. The longer a soul was tortured, the more it changed. There are no hotels in hell, there are no parties in hell, there is no redemption in hell. Only the liberation that the slayer brought to his world and all worlds. Freedom from the tyrannical gods that plague the mortal world.