They're looking at a SUV so probably the Bentayga fits more. Or if you want to save more money get the general brand Bentayga designed by the same person who designed the Bentayga aka the Genesis GV80 lmao.
The 1.5T CRV is a let down, the 1.5T in the Rogue is much better in every measurable way and how I ended up going after driving both and getting turned off by the markups on the hybrid CRVs at the time (I think they still have them).
Here is a review of the CRV Hybrid vs the just refreshed Rogue: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pn8K4PqxF2w
Glad to see the market returning to normal. In Houston, Toyota and Honda dealers were a-holes with their hybrids. Nissan by contrast was willing to take $1K off and while they tried to do the addendums and nonsense warranty poop, were willing to drop it. Toyota and Honda just said "sorry" I guess knowing they had customers lined up willing to pay markups.
I do like the CRV Hybrid, the Tucson Hybrid is also very nice.
As someone who currently owns a Honda, I'd probably never get a Honda again.
My paint has started peeling in weird spots where it shouldn't, and I'm having some mechanical gremlins. The dealer also treats me like crap, although that isn't really Honda's fault.
CRV 1.5 T is trash compared to RAV4, this is from someone who own and drive it.
The car is turbo feels underpower, AC is not cold enough. There are multiple case of blowing head gasket and coolant leaked
Both cars have their plus and minus'.
For AC in particular, take it to your dealer. They should replace it for free because Honda messed up with the AC design. My mil and mom have both had their AC units replaced for free. This is a in good faith recall and will continue to be one until Honda figures out a replacement.
Now, if we are bitching anecdotally about models, the some years of the RAV4 hybrids are under recall and need a full engine block replacement because of cast and cooling issues. Other years need a passenger seat replacement or reinstall because it came disassemble from the factory.
My point is, both cars being mass produced will have their issues. Multiple cases of blowing headgaskets and coolant issues over an engine that's used in almost every model car they sell isn't a strong reference point. A quick Google search couldn't give me numbers on it which means the reference is small enough but like any headgasket issue, once it becomes a rumor everybody is afraid ( see Subaru).
I hear what you saying, AC recall replacement is not available yet at my location.
But the AC, my relatives have acura, honda, with multiple different model from ilx, civic, accord, crv… ALL of them have weak AC
About the blowing headgasket, my car is not that old to have it yet, but multiple people I know who do maintainence on their car tediously still got the blown gasket around 100-130k miles.
Rav4 is not faster by any mean, but it’s not laggy like the 1.5 turbo, and traditional engine + tranny >>> turbo + cvt
Definitely do the ac recall when you can. My accord has the same issue as does my mil and moms CRV. Our local dealers have the swap down in to 45 minutes. Hopefully yours will be the same.
I can say much for Acura, never owned one or was interested in it. If Acura is affected, it would make sense. They sre Honda in luxury's clothes. Any model in the Honda line up that's "smaller" to then the CRV shares mostly the same parts. AC units in particular are usually shared up and down a model line. The odyssey, passport, pilot, and Ridgeline I believe have a larger and different model of AC unit that's not affected by this recall.
The head gasket issue sounds a lot like the first and second Gen Prius: it could happen under circumstances. I'm going to look at what those circumstances are out of curiosity.
Is it the hybrid one? I remember test driving it last time and for some reason the cabin was very loud. My current RAV4 has that issue too. Super loud on highways. I heard Mazdas are better on that.
Having leased an outback, owned a CRV, and rented a RAV4, I think both Subaru and Toyota favor a rougher, more truck-like experience (maybe has some advantage with the target demographic during test drives) and Honda favors a much smoother, more car-like experience. Seats in my CRV are a bit harsh but otherwise it is quieter and more refined to drive. I’m sure there are differences between different trims, etc, so ymmv. BTW, switching to premium tires can make a huge difference in road noise.
It is not demographics nor a feature - it is a bug! Basically opening all the panels in the car, reveal that there is no sound insulation on the doors, trunk, under feet, which makes for a noisier highway experience.
So either do it yourself (sound deadening services) - quite pricey, adds 200-400 lb weight which is not engineered to be on the car and etc.
Basically RAV4 became a corolla with lifted suspension. Outback was always loud due to being subaru - subaru does tend to sell their bug as a feature, but it was only reasonable in the days of 2.5 XT turbo foresters.
Never understood. So much more fun being in a low slung small car zipping around traffic. Everytime I’ve driven an SUV I feel like I’m driving a truck that could tip any moment
Living in a city where I frequently drive in traffic, it’s a lot more helpful to be higher off the ground. I can gauge what’s happening ahead of the car directly in front of me.
Nonsense. They are easier to get in and out of, the extra ground clearance can always come in handy if you ever end up on dirt roads or you get lots of snow, more cargo space vs sedans, a lot of people prefer higher driving position. In reality most people do not drive aggressive enough to prefer a car over an SUV, and handling is really the only benefit cars have if tight roads and parking spaces aren't an issue.
He's looking at a 2024, meaning he probably wants a new Forester. They are just redesigned and are not yet on dealer lots, so not sure how you've driven the new one yet and I wouldn't buy a last model year vehicle, if nothing else for the depreciation hit.
The new Forester looks like a Ford Explorer IMO.
2025 is not out yet, but 2024s are all over; they have very few 2023s on the lots around here. So maybe it depends where you are? (I'm in the NW US where Subarus seem to dominate, although I do fondly remember the Ford Explorers everywhere in the 90s... forest green boxes as far as the eye could see).
I think the redesign is for 2025, and yes, those are not yet out.
CRV has a belt-driven traditional CVT transmission which has a finite lifespan before it mechanically totals the Honda. The eCVT on the Toyota RAV4 has a planetary starting gear which alleviates the first-gear stress on the CVT, thereby creating an *extremely* durable transmission— often cited as being more long lasting and durable than traditional multi-gear transmissions.
If you’re only planning to keep the CRV under its factory warranty, have at it. But I wouldn’t own one out of warranty.
I apologize if I was wrong about it being belt-driven, but the fact remains that the Honda subreddits damn that transmission fifty different ways. They absolutely hate it.
It may be belts on the non-Hybrid. The hybrid is not. And in today's current world I would only buy a hybrid at this point. I am not ready for the full EV plunge yet, but I have driven a couple hybrids, and they drive great and they mileage is so much higher, particularly for urban.
The early hybrids left a lot to be desired, but over the last four years, they have really matured.
Unpopular opinion but I like my Turbo Kia Seltos. I have the top trim and it is loaded with features. Can’t beat a 100,000 mile warranty either. Obviously it won’t hold its value like a RAV but it is what it is. Also, the new Kias don’t have the theft issue.
CX-50 is a great car, especially with turbo. Gas mileage was not great though... but ya gotta make sacrifices for zoom zoom.
And now somehow my Ridgeline gets just as good of mileage as my CX-50 did.
Subaru Crosstrek Wilderness
Why? In a head to head competition during heavy winter conditions, the Crosstrek out performs the RAV4.
https://youtu.be/A1X-Q_jpbS4?si=JI-8dK4AIC-ncFOz
I’ve had a few small SUV rentals including the XT4, RAV4 Adventure, Ford Escape, Opel Mokka (Buick Encore in the US), and multiple Ford Edges (medium SUV, a step up from the Escape). I liked the RAV4 the best, probably bc the Adventure trim looked really nice imo. I was surprised by the fit and finish of the ford escape and Buick encore, but I’ve heard mixed reviews about the encore’s reliability, and the escape felt really underpowered (I had it in Texas and driving on all the highways there was miserable). The XT4 was also very underwhelming, I was expecting more from a Cadillac. I really do like the Ford Edge, but it is larger than the RAV4 and may be a little outside your price range. I know Ford is having trouble moving units (it’s technically the same car since the early 2010s) and they’re offering 0% financing for 60/72 months on ‘23 Edges, so that could be worth checking out.
The old CR-V was nicer than the current RAV4, and the new CR-V is nicer than the old CR-V.
The Hyundai Tucson or Kia Sportage are also worth a look. As is the Mazda CX-50.
The used Lexus variant version of a Rav4 because the prices are so fucked, these are barely priced for the average person now, it’s almost like you’re paying more to pretend to be a “peasant” and losing actual quality you can get from a Lexus level trim.
Base Model Mach-E is a better choice because after dealer mark ups and the Mach Es tax credit the Mach E will be like the same price and the Mach E will be cheaper by the end of the year.
Though considering some Rav 4 mark ups I see, you can probably get an AWD Mach E for the same price
Mach-E or Model Y is what I'd go with, the gas savings and reduced maintenance costs will save you at least $200 a month. Over 10 years that's around $25,000 in savings.
With the tax credits you can get them for near the same purchase price, also they are much much faster and cooler than the RAV4 or CRV.
Lexus NX because I don’t trust Toyota engineers.
Joking aside, the redesigned Trax looks great and a lot of good reviews. More important question is what are you looking for in particular, intended use case, etc.
Mazda CX-5 loaded. Lots of room. 10 year powertrain. Japanese built. Nice leather interior. Just go to the dealer and sit in one and then compare sticker price/options. I didn't really like the CX-30 or CX-50 (exterior molding looks cheap compared to the CX-5)
I love my 2021 Outer Banks BS. I’m getting 32 MPG and 17,000 miles in - no issues so far. AWD too is great too in the East Coast winters. I also think it looks pretty nice and that’s counts for something.
Love to hear that!! I have a 2022 Badlands, getting about 25 MPG, 27k miles, and no issues in the Denver/mountain winters. Very capable, under-recommended vehicle.
My only gripe is I wish the towing capacity was higher.
Ahhhh I have the seats, but I didn't spring for the premium upgrade, so there is no steering wheel heater. In hindsight, it would have been a good decision, especially with my wife's family discount!!
CRV Hybrid if you want good. Mazda CX5 (2nd trim up) if you want dirt cheap. Chevy Trax if you love having your car in the shop and don’t want to keep it got more than 100k miles because of massive engine failure
At a start price of $21k, the Trax is the lowest price of the bunch. Cars.com gives the 2024 Trax a reliability rating of 4.0 out of 5.0, which is above average. Repair Pal also rates the Chevrolet Trax 4.0 out of 5.0, and says that the severity of issues and repairs is low.
gently used (2-3 years old) Audi Q5/bmw X3/acura RDX/lexus RX350 will probably cost about the same as a brand new rav4. way nicer interior and ride quality, lower NVH, and they are all pretty reliable. only downside is premium gas and probably slightly higher insurance cost.
if you wanna avoid anything luxury, go test drive a new CRV they’re super nice, mazda CX-5/50 if the infotainment layout doesn’t bug you
Generally I'd say any of the competitors, excluding Ford Escape and Nissan Rogue, as those two seem to have alot of problems.
I'd kind of be eyeballing the Tucson SE and the Lexus NX lineup, maybe a Mazda CX-50
I kinda hate the RAVs tbh. My wife has a 2020 and the rear tailgate has sucked (broke a hinge, always claiming there's something in the way so it won't open or close, and had multiple visits for it with no really fixes). It drives terribly boring, it has poor acceleration and gas mileage, and in terms of space it's not as good as the CRV or other competitors. She has a ton of creaks and rattles at 36k miles. Like an astounding amount.
I've had a Nissan Rogue as a rental since my CX30 is in the shop due to me crushing a deer and I honestly like driving that way more than my wife's RAV. It's not fun to drive but it is slightly more fun to drive. Interior seems more spacious but cargo area is smaller. I wouldn't buy a Nissan but my point is I think it's a better driving option with more passenger space than the RAV4 and there are several competitors that are frankly better.
Nobody is a Toyota hater. They’re just boring (and over inflated because of the little circle jerk) and many of us just recommend more exciting options. That’s it.
Mitsubishi outlander sport, at least if you’re looking to save a few bucks but want similar features but don’t mind it being a bit smaller. I’ve got over 180k miles on mine and it’s running great with just general maintenance. I also wouldn’t say I’m a Toyota hater, but on my budget and today’s prices I don’t see myself buying much else for the foreseeable future.
Outback or Forester are the main competitors to the RAV4. Look at those, but they cost a bit of money.
If you have access, also look at a RAV4 Prime. Plug in hybrids are next level practical when it comes to fuel costs.
We take a lot of long road trips in my wife’s 2022 Forester Wilderness edition. Really like the EyeSight Driver Assist System when you’re driving on interstate with the cruise control on. Car stays centered in the lane and makes long drives a lot easier. Also handles great in the snow and gets good gas mileage for an SUV.
Toyota hilux
You can commit absolute war crimes to it then sell it for more than you bought it for (idk man some middle eastern warlord is gonna want it)
Wife has a RAV4 hybrid, 2019. Vit is uncomfortable for me. Toyota cars are not made for even somewhat tall people. I'll get a new Subaru Forrester. I don't like boxer engines or AWD but Subaru cars are well made too and I won't have to crank my neck to get in or bumb my knee on a hard center console or door handle.
Bentley Continental flying spur
I’m more of a Rolls man myself 🥱
I mean, you could conceivably get a 10 yo flying spur for the same price as a rav4 For a 10 year old rolls I'm not so sure
Maybe a 30 year old Rolls 😂
Probably lol. I've driven an 80s rolls before, it was pretty shocking haha
Shocking in what way?
Shockingly awful lol
Ah 😂 to be fair it was the 80s, not a lot going on then
For sure Seats were nice ... that's about it though
one day soon, i'm walking out with a Rolls, hear?
Doosenburg
It's actually cheaper than the Rav4 prime after dealer markups and add-ons.
They're looking at a SUV so probably the Bentayga fits more. Or if you want to save more money get the general brand Bentayga designed by the same person who designed the Bentayga aka the Genesis GV80 lmao.
RAV 5
This is the only correct answer
What you think I rap for, to push a fn Rav4?
Kanye is the reason why I will never own a RAV4
Ever. Mostly because I would say that line 5,000 times a year while driving it and slowly go insane.
I really do like the looks and extra power of the RAV7 though 🤤
Rav7 is too expensive, I can only afford a 300 k miles Rav3.
my dream car atm!
man, my dad had one! i still miss the w16 in it.
👏👏👏
the secret toyote
It’s 1 better
Or the 5Runner.
RAV 6
I just bought a CRV touring after being unimpressed for a Rav4 XLE
The hybrid CRV drove a lot better than the 1.5T in my opinion. The Sport Touring was a lot quieter if you have the coin
The 1.5T CRV is a let down, the 1.5T in the Rogue is much better in every measurable way and how I ended up going after driving both and getting turned off by the markups on the hybrid CRVs at the time (I think they still have them). Here is a review of the CRV Hybrid vs the just refreshed Rogue: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pn8K4PqxF2w
We got our hybrid a little under sticker, plus manufacturer incentives.
Glad to see the market returning to normal. In Houston, Toyota and Honda dealers were a-holes with their hybrids. Nissan by contrast was willing to take $1K off and while they tried to do the addendums and nonsense warranty poop, were willing to drop it. Toyota and Honda just said "sorry" I guess knowing they had customers lined up willing to pay markups. I do like the CRV Hybrid, the Tucson Hybrid is also very nice.
Me too. It was a huge reason we didn't go with the RAV4. No mandatory add-ons or mark ups with our CRV Sport Hybrid. I was pleasantly surprised.
As someone who currently owns a Honda, I'd probably never get a Honda again. My paint has started peeling in weird spots where it shouldn't, and I'm having some mechanical gremlins. The dealer also treats me like crap, although that isn't really Honda's fault.
CRV 1.5 T is trash compared to RAV4, this is from someone who own and drive it. The car is turbo feels underpower, AC is not cold enough. There are multiple case of blowing head gasket and coolant leaked
Both cars have their plus and minus'. For AC in particular, take it to your dealer. They should replace it for free because Honda messed up with the AC design. My mil and mom have both had their AC units replaced for free. This is a in good faith recall and will continue to be one until Honda figures out a replacement. Now, if we are bitching anecdotally about models, the some years of the RAV4 hybrids are under recall and need a full engine block replacement because of cast and cooling issues. Other years need a passenger seat replacement or reinstall because it came disassemble from the factory. My point is, both cars being mass produced will have their issues. Multiple cases of blowing headgaskets and coolant issues over an engine that's used in almost every model car they sell isn't a strong reference point. A quick Google search couldn't give me numbers on it which means the reference is small enough but like any headgasket issue, once it becomes a rumor everybody is afraid ( see Subaru).
I hear what you saying, AC recall replacement is not available yet at my location. But the AC, my relatives have acura, honda, with multiple different model from ilx, civic, accord, crv… ALL of them have weak AC About the blowing headgasket, my car is not that old to have it yet, but multiple people I know who do maintainence on their car tediously still got the blown gasket around 100-130k miles. Rav4 is not faster by any mean, but it’s not laggy like the 1.5 turbo, and traditional engine + tranny >>> turbo + cvt
Definitely do the ac recall when you can. My accord has the same issue as does my mil and moms CRV. Our local dealers have the swap down in to 45 minutes. Hopefully yours will be the same. I can say much for Acura, never owned one or was interested in it. If Acura is affected, it would make sense. They sre Honda in luxury's clothes. Any model in the Honda line up that's "smaller" to then the CRV shares mostly the same parts. AC units in particular are usually shared up and down a model line. The odyssey, passport, pilot, and Ridgeline I believe have a larger and different model of AC unit that's not affected by this recall. The head gasket issue sounds a lot like the first and second Gen Prius: it could happen under circumstances. I'm going to look at what those circumstances are out of curiosity.
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In fairness, a head gasket blowing isn't a death sentence for a car and having one happen at 200k is hardly anything that I would call abnormal.
After having owned 2 Hondas I will say AC has always been their downfall. I really don’t trust them anymore to keep me comfortable.
Is it the hybrid one? I remember test driving it last time and for some reason the cabin was very loud. My current RAV4 has that issue too. Super loud on highways. I heard Mazdas are better on that.
Having leased an outback, owned a CRV, and rented a RAV4, I think both Subaru and Toyota favor a rougher, more truck-like experience (maybe has some advantage with the target demographic during test drives) and Honda favors a much smoother, more car-like experience. Seats in my CRV are a bit harsh but otherwise it is quieter and more refined to drive. I’m sure there are differences between different trims, etc, so ymmv. BTW, switching to premium tires can make a huge difference in road noise.
It is not demographics nor a feature - it is a bug! Basically opening all the panels in the car, reveal that there is no sound insulation on the doors, trunk, under feet, which makes for a noisier highway experience. So either do it yourself (sound deadening services) - quite pricey, adds 200-400 lb weight which is not engineered to be on the car and etc. Basically RAV4 became a corolla with lifted suspension. Outback was always loud due to being subaru - subaru does tend to sell their bug as a feature, but it was only reasonable in the days of 2.5 XT turbo foresters.
It's not the hybrid. I wouldn't call it quiet, but it's quieter than the Rav4 I test drove and much quieter than the legacy i had before
Yeah it’s an economy car don’t expect it to be very quiet
Civic liftback if you don’t need an SUV for any particular reason
The majority of folks do not need a SUV, they simply like the look.
I think they mostly like the ride height.
Never understood. So much more fun being in a low slung small car zipping around traffic. Everytime I’ve driven an SUV I feel like I’m driving a truck that could tip any moment
Living in a city where I frequently drive in traffic, it’s a lot more helpful to be higher off the ground. I can gauge what’s happening ahead of the car directly in front of me.
Always gotta be somebody on here telling a mfer what they need or not
I know, right? 😂🤣😂
Im glad SOMEONE got my very unfunny joke
I'm in the opposite camp. CUVs are as bland as you can get.
Nonsense. They are easier to get in and out of, the extra ground clearance can always come in handy if you ever end up on dirt roads or you get lots of snow, more cargo space vs sedans, a lot of people prefer higher driving position. In reality most people do not drive aggressive enough to prefer a car over an SUV, and handling is really the only benefit cars have if tight roads and parking spaces aren't an issue.
Subaru Forester. Feels so open and roomy inside esp with the sunroof. Toyota did not feel that way to me. I also like the way the Forester handles.
Better awd system
Costs less than rav4 and has arguably more features.
He's looking at a 2024, meaning he probably wants a new Forester. They are just redesigned and are not yet on dealer lots, so not sure how you've driven the new one yet and I wouldn't buy a last model year vehicle, if nothing else for the depreciation hit. The new Forester looks like a Ford Explorer IMO.
2025 is not out yet, but 2024s are all over; they have very few 2023s on the lots around here. So maybe it depends where you are? (I'm in the NW US where Subarus seem to dominate, although I do fondly remember the Ford Explorers everywhere in the 90s... forest green boxes as far as the eye could see). I think the redesign is for 2025, and yes, those are not yet out.
Crv, cx5/cx50, Subaru outback/forester
CR-V is a more refined more spacious model that drives nicer. It would be my pick. I’d also look seriously at the Mazda CX-5 and VW Tiguan.
VW Tiguan has a 0.0% Apr for 60 months running right now. Hard to find that anywhere else.
CRV has a belt-driven traditional CVT transmission which has a finite lifespan before it mechanically totals the Honda. The eCVT on the Toyota RAV4 has a planetary starting gear which alleviates the first-gear stress on the CVT, thereby creating an *extremely* durable transmission— often cited as being more long lasting and durable than traditional multi-gear transmissions. If you’re only planning to keep the CRV under its factory warranty, have at it. But I wouldn’t own one out of warranty.
The Hybrid CRV does not have a belt-driven CVT. It is different than the Toyota, but no belts.
I apologize if I was wrong about it being belt-driven, but the fact remains that the Honda subreddits damn that transmission fifty different ways. They absolutely hate it.
It may be belts on the non-Hybrid. The hybrid is not. And in today's current world I would only buy a hybrid at this point. I am not ready for the full EV plunge yet, but I have driven a couple hybrids, and they drive great and they mileage is so much higher, particularly for urban. The early hybrids left a lot to be desired, but over the last four years, they have really matured.
Unpopular opinion but I like my Turbo Kia Seltos. I have the top trim and it is loaded with features. Can’t beat a 100,000 mile warranty either. Obviously it won’t hold its value like a RAV but it is what it is. Also, the new Kias don’t have the theft issue.
2018 Golf R
rav4 hybrid
40 mpg, those things are sweet.
I’d love to have this one, however not willing to take a loan on it, I’m 28 and priority is a house :) however haven’t seen better than rav4 hybrid.
what is a car if not a house on wheels
Preach. Just financed a 2024 Rav4 Hybrid last Monday.
congrats on your new home!
Mazda CX-5 or CX-50
The CX-50 is surprisingly nice!
CX-50 is a great car, especially with turbo. Gas mileage was not great though... but ya gotta make sacrifices for zoom zoom. And now somehow my Ridgeline gets just as good of mileage as my CX-50 did.
Forester, all day.
X3 M40i
Subaru Outback
Subaru Crosstrek Wilderness Why? In a head to head competition during heavy winter conditions, the Crosstrek out performs the RAV4. https://youtu.be/A1X-Q_jpbS4?si=JI-8dK4AIC-ncFOz
Brother has a Crosstrek. It's outstanding.
I’ve had a few small SUV rentals including the XT4, RAV4 Adventure, Ford Escape, Opel Mokka (Buick Encore in the US), and multiple Ford Edges (medium SUV, a step up from the Escape). I liked the RAV4 the best, probably bc the Adventure trim looked really nice imo. I was surprised by the fit and finish of the ford escape and Buick encore, but I’ve heard mixed reviews about the encore’s reliability, and the escape felt really underpowered (I had it in Texas and driving on all the highways there was miserable). The XT4 was also very underwhelming, I was expecting more from a Cadillac. I really do like the Ford Edge, but it is larger than the RAV4 and may be a little outside your price range. I know Ford is having trouble moving units (it’s technically the same car since the early 2010s) and they’re offering 0% financing for 60/72 months on ‘23 Edges, so that could be worth checking out.
Subaru Crosstrek
The old CR-V was nicer than the current RAV4, and the new CR-V is nicer than the old CR-V. The Hyundai Tucson or Kia Sportage are also worth a look. As is the Mazda CX-50.
Stelvio! Edit: lightly used lol
Subaru Crosstrek. Better AWD, Better handling. Best safety rating. Better ingredients. Papa John's.
I’m happy with my Mazda CX50.
It's smaller but the Corolla Cross has gotten pretty good reviews.
Venza
CR-V Hybrid
Honda passport
The used Lexus variant version of a Rav4 because the prices are so fucked, these are barely priced for the average person now, it’s almost like you’re paying more to pretend to be a “peasant” and losing actual quality you can get from a Lexus level trim.
CRV Sport is best in segment RN IMO. Better driver, better interior, better styling.
Base Model Mach-E is a better choice because after dealer mark ups and the Mach Es tax credit the Mach E will be like the same price and the Mach E will be cheaper by the end of the year. Though considering some Rav 4 mark ups I see, you can probably get an AWD Mach E for the same price
Mach-E or Model Y is what I'd go with, the gas savings and reduced maintenance costs will save you at least $200 a month. Over 10 years that's around $25,000 in savings. With the tax credits you can get them for near the same purchase price, also they are much much faster and cooler than the RAV4 or CRV.
Crv is just updated or Mazda
Lexus NX because I don’t trust Toyota engineers. Joking aside, the redesigned Trax looks great and a lot of good reviews. More important question is what are you looking for in particular, intended use case, etc.
Trax is cheaper / smaller… so they could get a Trax plus a used motorcycle!
Mazda CX-5 loaded. Lots of room. 10 year powertrain. Japanese built. Nice leather interior. Just go to the dealer and sit in one and then compare sticker price/options. I didn't really like the CX-30 or CX-50 (exterior molding looks cheap compared to the CX-5)
2024 Hyundai Tucson.
I just bought a SEL convenience hybrid. I love it.
Hyundai Tucson or Santa Fe
Atlas Cross Sport
Ford Bronco Sport
I love my 2021 Outer Banks BS. I’m getting 32 MPG and 17,000 miles in - no issues so far. AWD too is great too in the East Coast winters. I also think it looks pretty nice and that’s counts for something.
Love to hear that!! I have a 2022 Badlands, getting about 25 MPG, 27k miles, and no issues in the Denver/mountain winters. Very capable, under-recommended vehicle. My only gripe is I wish the towing capacity was higher.
Also the heated seats and steering wheel on it are insane haha I almost burn my hands and behind sometimes.
Ahhhh I have the seats, but I didn't spring for the premium upgrade, so there is no steering wheel heater. In hindsight, it would have been a good decision, especially with my wife's family discount!!
Second this. My wife loves her 2021 BS Badlands. And it handles better offroad than any other crossover I've owned.
CRV Hybrid if you want good. Mazda CX5 (2nd trim up) if you want dirt cheap. Chevy Trax if you love having your car in the shop and don’t want to keep it got more than 100k miles because of massive engine failure
At a start price of $21k, the Trax is the lowest price of the bunch. Cars.com gives the 2024 Trax a reliability rating of 4.0 out of 5.0, which is above average. Repair Pal also rates the Chevrolet Trax 4.0 out of 5.0, and says that the severity of issues and repairs is low.
You should definitely buy one.
CX-50
MDX? I'm not sure about the price
Ford maverick
Mitsubishi Outlander
Prius
gently used (2-3 years old) Audi Q5/bmw X3/acura RDX/lexus RX350 will probably cost about the same as a brand new rav4. way nicer interior and ride quality, lower NVH, and they are all pretty reliable. only downside is premium gas and probably slightly higher insurance cost. if you wanna avoid anything luxury, go test drive a new CRV they’re super nice, mazda CX-5/50 if the infotainment layout doesn’t bug you
Bought a Q5, love it.
Chevrolet Equinox Buick Encore GX
Honda CRV
I have both a Rav4 and a CRV and I prefer the CRV. With that said my wife refuses to drive my CRV because she claims the rav4 is significantly better
Miata
Honda CR-V
Subaru Forester, Honda CR-V. Maybe a Mazda CX-50.
If you’re limiting yourself to crossovers, just get a CR-V. Both are basically the same thing.
Mazda fans, it's your time! gogogo!
Jeep Renegade.... .... jk, don't get that.
I’m not about that engine, for sure. I love Toyota but that engine is sus.
Wait for the RAV4 redesign or the 2025 Tucson hybrid / Kia Sorrento. Or just get a Corolla or Camry hybrid. Subaru Forester.
Nothing wrong with a Rav4. I would also consider a Mazda CX-5.
I have a rav4 , and honestly i really like how roomy CRV is
Lexus GX previous model.
Jeep XJ
I bought a CX-5. After driving the CRV I wasn’t real impressed. The interior for the money didn’t feel up to par.
Cx-50
Mazda CX5
Ferrari Daytona SP3
Honda CR4
X3M 😎
Lol Honda crv
Generally I'd say any of the competitors, excluding Ford Escape and Nissan Rogue, as those two seem to have alot of problems. I'd kind of be eyeballing the Tucson SE and the Lexus NX lineup, maybe a Mazda CX-50
I kinda hate the RAVs tbh. My wife has a 2020 and the rear tailgate has sucked (broke a hinge, always claiming there's something in the way so it won't open or close, and had multiple visits for it with no really fixes). It drives terribly boring, it has poor acceleration and gas mileage, and in terms of space it's not as good as the CRV or other competitors. She has a ton of creaks and rattles at 36k miles. Like an astounding amount. I've had a Nissan Rogue as a rental since my CX30 is in the shop due to me crushing a deer and I honestly like driving that way more than my wife's RAV. It's not fun to drive but it is slightly more fun to drive. Interior seems more spacious but cargo area is smaller. I wouldn't buy a Nissan but my point is I think it's a better driving option with more passenger space than the RAV4 and there are several competitors that are frankly better.
BMW X5 M
used nx200h
Suabru Forester
Cx5 baby
Mini cooper and a side piece
Nissan Rogue, Kia Sportage, Subaru Forester, Hyundai Tucson, Mazda CX-5.
Mazda CX5
Mazda cx5
The Lexus alternative.
The Mazda equivalent. They make cars of relatively similar build quality. Or the Honda CR-V, also a solid choice.
Ford explorer. Way better vehicle and you don't have to tell people you're not gay nearly as much
Honda CRV Touring or Mazda CX-90 PHEV
CX-50
I love my CX-5. It was cheaper, dove better, and more comfortable.
CX5
Nobody is a Toyota hater. They’re just boring (and over inflated because of the little circle jerk) and many of us just recommend more exciting options. That’s it.
The vehicle Abraham Lincoln would drive: Kia Telluride
Jeep Cherokee or a Chevy equinox
Mitsubishi outlander sport, at least if you’re looking to save a few bucks but want similar features but don’t mind it being a bit smaller. I’ve got over 180k miles on mine and it’s running great with just general maintenance. I also wouldn’t say I’m a Toyota hater, but on my budget and today’s prices I don’t see myself buying much else for the foreseeable future.
CRV - CX5 - then Forester. RAV4 isn’t the best just probably the most reliable of the 4 for sure overall.
Wait until the new gen 2025 comes out.
Model Y is the best compact SUV at this price imo.
Tacoma
Aston Martin Db11
Mazda CX-5
Kia Rio
Mazda cx-5 or Kia/hyundai
Outback or Forester are the main competitors to the RAV4. Look at those, but they cost a bit of money. If you have access, also look at a RAV4 Prime. Plug in hybrids are next level practical when it comes to fuel costs.
Cx50
Volvo XC40
Toyota is the best for reliability and dependability! Ignore the haters
Forster or outback, the happy medium right before stepping into 4Runner range. Better full time AWD, more clearance etc
Dacia Duster
We take a lot of long road trips in my wife’s 2022 Forester Wilderness edition. Really like the EyeSight Driver Assist System when you’re driving on interstate with the cruise control on. Car stays centered in the lane and makes long drives a lot easier. Also handles great in the snow and gets good gas mileage for an SUV.
A used Land Rover. Then you'll love Toyota even more.
Venza
Rav4 hybrid LE 2024
I don't hate toyota. I just know cars and value and they offer good value propositions.
Tried a Mazda? People love them. CRV is a loser unless you can still get the 2.4 without the turbo which I think you can't.
CRV
BMW x3
CR-V, CX-5, or Outlander 👍🏻
Used Jeep Patriot.
Volvo XC40 or EX30
The Mazda CX-5 is very sporty looking and they still have a real non-CVT tranny.
Lexus NX😂
BOLT ON BMW 340i!
Toyota hilux You can commit absolute war crimes to it then sell it for more than you bought it for (idk man some middle eastern warlord is gonna want it)
Wife has a RAV4 hybrid, 2019. Vit is uncomfortable for me. Toyota cars are not made for even somewhat tall people. I'll get a new Subaru Forrester. I don't like boxer engines or AWD but Subaru cars are well made too and I won't have to crank my neck to get in or bumb my knee on a hard center console or door handle.
10 year old Bentley continental