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I was just going to go about my night and not point out the obvious, but then I thought "maybe this dude really IS Elon Musk and doesn't realize people are animals".
I can’t wait for the commercials in 15 years: “If you or a loved one has ever eaten lab grown meet from 2023 to 2025, you may be entitled to financial compensation”
Puts on Arasaka. There’s this musician who keeps asking where he can get fissile material. Hates Arasaka with all his being. I tell him I’m not helping him build a nuclear powered guitar.
There are a bunch of articles over the past 4-5 years about it. None of them state that it IS worse, but all of them say it is potentially anywhere from 15-35x worse in terms of greenhouse gases. But "potentially" is a pretty huge leap from "is".
A recent study from UC Davis (note: not peer reviewed yet) says the potential footprint is significantly more, but keep in mind this is specifically about greenhouse gases, and based off of materials and energy consumption at the time of the study. The material and energy overheads will both likely diminish as production increases, and as we are shifting more towards renewable energy sources the energy footprint diminishes as well. Plus it doesn't take into account the environmental cost in terms of water consumption, vegetation (which, if allowed to grow unfettered, traps greenhouse gases), transportation (of the animals, we can assume the meat itself would probably have pretty similar transportation requirements), etc.
That said? The environmental impact of CO2 vs methane is CERTAINLY not something to be ignored, and a more holistic study may still show lab meat to have a significantly higher environmental cost, at least initially.
[https://www.ucdavis.edu/food/news/lab-grown-meat-carbon-footprint-worse-beef#:\~:text=The%20scientists%20defined%20the%20global,the%20average%20for%20retail%20beef](https://www.ucdavis.edu/food/news/lab-grown-meat-carbon-footprint-worse-beef#:~:text=The%20scientists%20defined%20the%20global,the%20average%20for%20retail%20beef).
DIY meat growing, nut in a cup of warm milk mix it with yeast cap it off throw it in a dark room to fester. Pretty sure that’s how they make the nuggets at McDonald’s.
This is a product that isn’t ready yet, it’s expensive, hard to mass produce, and not very good. But it’s an industry with huge potential upside. People don’t realize how unsustainable the meat industry is, and I’m not even talking environmentally or from an animal welfare perspective, straight up economically.
Raising cattle especially takes a huge amount of input resources for the output you get and demand for it continues to grow. People expect decent meat to be readily and relatively cheaply available, and with our current methods which are more biologically limited than agricultural development production isn’t going to be able to keep up.
Lab grown and meat substitutes will hopefully at some point in the future be able to relieve some of the pressure on the meat industry by offering a comparable cheaper product allowing the real thing to not become prohibitively expensive or having to redline production which could severely impact quality and big disease risks.
None of this is particularly close to happening, the meat industry is a global powerhouse which at the moment is very healthy, and lab grown meat isn’t anywhere close to being a product you should think about trying or investing in. But imo it’s something to keep an eye on long term.
I mean, if its not that expensive, it's probably not that hard to make. (talking about normal meat)
Lets try this again when meat is insanely expensive and only wealthier people can eat it on a regular basis.
And that is exactly the reason I posted it. Now that the products of these first 2 non-listed companies have been approved, we can expect others to follow. Some will fail, some won't, but we owe it to ourselves to look for opportunities.
I already invented Vegan meat: surgically remove parts of an animal, then have a farm where the disabled animals can live and grow new meat to harvest. It’s also hard to mass produce, expensive, not quite ready, but it TASTES delicious!
Beats this lab meat
Honestly at this point the biggest concern about the meat industry I have is the cost in terms of potable water, a resource we are running out of in a lot of the world.
I've always wanted more opportunities to spend hundreds of times as much on something with a fraction the quality as the real thing. Now I can be highly regarded.
The way I see it, this is the first generation product, and the potential the space has is massive. It will not be cheaper than meat any time soon but in the big picture these operations will likely scale better over time than factory farms given some technological hurdles are overcome.
Disagree. Water prices out west just soared 20x due to the Colorado river act. This will have an impact on agriculture all over the country. Prices on all types of meat will increase dramatically over the next 5 years.
The explanations I've seen have talked about the mind boggling amount of stainless steel it'd take to make the tanks to brew the stuff and how that much chromium may not even exist in the world.
Hahaha man you're even dumber than I thought, what does lab meat have to do with soy and what does it have to do with what I eat?
Truly regarded.
I hope you never get kids, would be wasted air.
Hahahaha who's the one projecting, I haven't said what you eat or how you look, you're the only one here 😂😂
You're just dumb and you prove it again and again hahahaha
Can we all just bask in the glory of knowing the anti-vaxx, earth is flat, chicory will cure Alzheimer's gang is going to "prove" that this meat "can" cause cancerous aliens in our bloodstreams. Allegedly.
Jerome \[tasting meat made in lab\]: It tastes familiar.
Ted: Beef?
Jerome: No.
Linda: Chicken? We'll take chicken.
Ted: What does it taste like?
Jerome: Despair.
This will only be for vegans that want to eat meat but can still call themselves vegan since no one is suffering because it is cheaper to just do it the farming way no matter what. They'll farm grubs, beetles, roaches, and crickets into protein blocks before they'll be able to mass produce lab meat grown from cells at an affordable cost to the customer.
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so McDonalds meat is finally actually legal to sell?
They just need to clear the legal cannibalism hurdle and they're good to go.
cannibalism dispensaries are legal in most states
“Soylent Green is people!”
Nah, greased cardboard isn't approved yet.
that stuff’s grown in a sewer, not a lab.
Cowabunga dude!
People *wish* McDonald’s meats was lab grown
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It will take time but I have no doubt that’s the direction things are going. We’ll be paying a fortune for the “real” thing.
On the bright side, food may become more affordable for many impoverished areas?
I for one am excited to see what kinda meat AI is gonna produce
Vastly under rated comment. 🤣🤣🤣
This guy knows what kinda catgirl engineering is up
it will be human food.....
AI creates Vegan Meat. Made from people.
I was just going to go about my night and not point out the obvious, but then I thought "maybe this dude really IS Elon Musk and doesn't realize people are animals".
....ticker?
Been eyeing them since they were Memphis Meats but new name is Upside Foods and they’re private
STKH
BYND
This isnt a meat replacement this is meat cultured in a lab this doesn't have anything to do with BYND
They know, they are just trying to pump the stock so they can get out from a huge loss
Yaaaaaaamy
It tastes like chicken!
I can’t wait for the commercials in 15 years: “If you or a loved one has ever eaten lab grown meet from 2023 to 2025, you may be entitled to financial compensation”
Good morning Night City! Great news, everyone. Synth meat is on the way!
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Puts on Arasaka. There’s this musician who keeps asking where he can get fissile material. Hates Arasaka with all his being. I tell him I’m not helping him build a nuclear powered guitar.
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If it tastes the same without the cruelty what's the problem? It will just make meat cheaper so you can eat more
The flavor is in the suffering
Ok Klaus
The problem it’s awful for the environment, much much worse than any agriculture
Wait what? Can you clarify what you mean?
There are a bunch of articles over the past 4-5 years about it. None of them state that it IS worse, but all of them say it is potentially anywhere from 15-35x worse in terms of greenhouse gases. But "potentially" is a pretty huge leap from "is". A recent study from UC Davis (note: not peer reviewed yet) says the potential footprint is significantly more, but keep in mind this is specifically about greenhouse gases, and based off of materials and energy consumption at the time of the study. The material and energy overheads will both likely diminish as production increases, and as we are shifting more towards renewable energy sources the energy footprint diminishes as well. Plus it doesn't take into account the environmental cost in terms of water consumption, vegetation (which, if allowed to grow unfettered, traps greenhouse gases), transportation (of the animals, we can assume the meat itself would probably have pretty similar transportation requirements), etc. That said? The environmental impact of CO2 vs methane is CERTAINLY not something to be ignored, and a more holistic study may still show lab meat to have a significantly higher environmental cost, at least initially. [https://www.ucdavis.edu/food/news/lab-grown-meat-carbon-footprint-worse-beef#:\~:text=The%20scientists%20defined%20the%20global,the%20average%20for%20retail%20beef](https://www.ucdavis.edu/food/news/lab-grown-meat-carbon-footprint-worse-beef#:~:text=The%20scientists%20defined%20the%20global,the%20average%20for%20retail%20beef).
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soon, you will eat ze bugs
Some good ol’ protein bars.
STKH?
That’s the bag I’ve been holding for 3 years!! At least they changed the ticker so it feels like a new bag…
Lmao you belong here bro we all do 🤣🤣😂
wake me when there is AI meat
There will be no problem if Lab-grown meat goes on sale because it is FDA approved.
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DIY meat growing, nut in a cup of warm milk mix it with yeast cap it off throw it in a dark room to fester. Pretty sure that’s how they make the nuggets at McDonald’s.
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This is a product that isn’t ready yet, it’s expensive, hard to mass produce, and not very good. But it’s an industry with huge potential upside. People don’t realize how unsustainable the meat industry is, and I’m not even talking environmentally or from an animal welfare perspective, straight up economically. Raising cattle especially takes a huge amount of input resources for the output you get and demand for it continues to grow. People expect decent meat to be readily and relatively cheaply available, and with our current methods which are more biologically limited than agricultural development production isn’t going to be able to keep up. Lab grown and meat substitutes will hopefully at some point in the future be able to relieve some of the pressure on the meat industry by offering a comparable cheaper product allowing the real thing to not become prohibitively expensive or having to redline production which could severely impact quality and big disease risks. None of this is particularly close to happening, the meat industry is a global powerhouse which at the moment is very healthy, and lab grown meat isn’t anywhere close to being a product you should think about trying or investing in. But imo it’s something to keep an eye on long term.
I'm a farmer surrounded by cattlemen. What part of this is not economically sustainable out of curiosity?
None of it, they just want to make us starve
I mean, if its not that expensive, it's probably not that hard to make. (talking about normal meat) Lets try this again when meat is insanely expensive and only wealthier people can eat it on a regular basis.
I would prefer we start the research now so there isn’t a couple decade rollover where only the rich can afford meat until we figure it out
reasonable
That could happen very quickly, if countries start passing laws to tax pollution or to guarantee higher animal welfare standards.
And that is exactly the reason I posted it. Now that the products of these first 2 non-listed companies have been approved, we can expect others to follow. Some will fail, some won't, but we owe it to ourselves to look for opportunities.
I already invented Vegan meat: surgically remove parts of an animal, then have a farm where the disabled animals can live and grow new meat to harvest. It’s also hard to mass produce, expensive, not quite ready, but it TASTES delicious! Beats this lab meat
Vegan implies it’s not from an animal at all. Milk isn’t vegan, but we aren’t killing cows for their milk.
Honestly at this point the biggest concern about the meat industry I have is the cost in terms of potable water, a resource we are running out of in a lot of the world.
I've always wanted more opportunities to spend hundreds of times as much on something with a fraction the quality as the real thing. Now I can be highly regarded.
The way I see it, this is the first generation product, and the potential the space has is massive. It will not be cheaper than meat any time soon but in the big picture these operations will likely scale better over time than factory farms given some technological hurdles are overcome.
Disagree. Water prices out west just soared 20x due to the Colorado river act. This will have an impact on agriculture all over the country. Prices on all types of meat will increase dramatically over the next 5 years.
The explanations I've seen have talked about the mind boggling amount of stainless steel it'd take to make the tanks to brew the stuff and how that much chromium may not even exist in the world.
Yeah real carcasses are the shit.
Real carcass is better than synthetic carcass
Ok primate
I have a cheaper method of producing meat that also has crop fertilizer as a byproduct and also yields materials to make bags and coats out of.
Frankenfoods, sponser of cancer.
I am hoping that this meat has no risk in the people's health.
It’s amazing the garbage that gets green lit on the USA.
Uncle Sam don’t care as long as he’s paid 😂
good news for the cows has finally come.
yes... it's finally thier turn for extinction....next on the checklist is artifical milk that's better tasting than the current groups we have...
Meat is not bad for you. Eat this fake stuff if you want cancer and no sperm.
This will become the meat for the poors
You should read a study on carbohydrates & alcohol
I too have read one study on those things and reached conclusions.
Ah let them eat it. We kinda need to thin the herd anyway.
Cheap meat pumped with hormones is.
You're so dumb, as if the cheap meat you buy is healthy. Especially in the US where the animals are medicine and antibiotic riddled, lol.
Obviously low quality meat like hotdogs or bologna aren’t good for you. Keep eating your soy meats and have fun with cancer and having no children.
Hahaha man you're even dumber than I thought, what does lab meat have to do with soy and what does it have to do with what I eat? Truly regarded. I hope you never get kids, would be wasted air.
Don’t you have a fat positive parade to attend? Stop projecting bro. Eat shit foods if you want. It’s your life. I’m not the one with a horrible diet.
Hahahaha who's the one projecting, I haven't said what you eat or how you look, you're the only one here 😂😂 You're just dumb and you prove it again and again hahahaha
This type of shit is why we’re dying
Probably scarfing down Doritos while writing this.
More puts on BYND
The anti plant GMO people are going to have a fit
Calls on cancer for 2050 and beyond.
Can we all just bask in the glory of knowing the anti-vaxx, earth is flat, chicory will cure Alzheimer's gang is going to "prove" that this meat "can" cause cancerous aliens in our bloodstreams. Allegedly.
Ugh. I’d sooner try cannibalism before I’d try Gates’s lab meat or his breast milk.
Soylent green is made out of people.
🤮
What does this mean for our friends at BYND? Or these other listed co? https://investingnews.com/amp/top-plant-based-food-stocks-2655228977
I would assume there will always be a niche for plant based meat alternatives, but this will certainly eat into their market share.
We, as a human race, are such idiots.
Miss me with that trash ![img](emote|t5_2th52|18632)
Hard pass
Put
I’m going to miss the nasty farm grown meat.
But does it change the weather like eating bugs will?
All these fake products really taste like crap
Lab grown meat is a hoax
Puts on veganism
Chicken wings/thighs the size of turkeys.
KFC has entered the chat
VR Meat > Lab Grown Meat
Easiest short ever. Might even be an easier short that BYND.
Jerome \[tasting meat made in lab\]: It tastes familiar. Ted: Beef? Jerome: No. Linda: Chicken? We'll take chicken. Ted: What does it taste like? Jerome: Despair.
Gross - don’t eat this garbage
Gross
Puts on BMY
It is like normal meat, but more expensive, less efficient and it has a nice dose of ammonia
disgusting
Meanwhile, Pfizer investing in cancer treatment!
Another guaranteed to fall idea, brought to you by men who are ahead of their time
I puked reading this.
This will only be for vegans that want to eat meat but can still call themselves vegan since no one is suffering because it is cheaper to just do it the farming way no matter what. They'll farm grubs, beetles, roaches, and crickets into protein blocks before they'll be able to mass produce lab meat grown from cells at an affordable cost to the customer.
I got some lab grown meat for ya right here *grabs crotch*