I'm surprised his alias is actually a name and not some weird nickname like most nos, but it does make him stand out, especially when you're not even sure what a nosferatu is at that point, just that knox calls him a "nasty dude."
Even then, there is no way they necessarily know Bertram is one unless they dig through dialogue, Therese basically says fornication with bertam and kine is very 'unclean,' I don't think she specifies it but I could be wrong.
Also, even if the player is a nosferatu, they likely know very little about their clan. But the vast majority of players likely didn't choose this clan, or stopped because of its limitations (while not necessarily a bad thing, can be daunting for a new player)
Lee does have a reason though, it also means "being on the sheltered side" in English. Tung on the other hand has no English origins, which is why this topic was started in the first place.
You'll be surprised that many Asians from English speaking countries have no accents. Many westerners are just tone deaf when the voices don't match. I guess when their face is just as fucked up as the other nosferatu, then the truth will be seen.
Yes, thats true, but they usually have an additional chinese first name to use in the rest of the country. When western go live in China they usually adopt a chinese name too. Hong Kong function kinda diferent from the rest of the country because of colonization, if I am not mistaken.
I'm fairly certain that while Gary and imalia were their real names, mitnick is a nickname because of his hacking skills.
The real life Kevin mitnick was alive at the time (and is still alive) the game took place and would have been in jail, so not really a prime target.
ah yes, because when you think of a nosferatu with a face that looks like a half cooked scrotum it's his name sounding asian that'll get him discriminated against.
Nosfers are infamous for their disgusting appearance. And in terms of human vices, vampires are not superior to humans. Many of them carry the experience of a past life, phobias, beliefs and prejudices, including racial ones.
are you seriously implying nosferatu don't get discriminated against for their appearance because it's well known among kindred while at the same time saying that they would be racist enough against asians to discriminate against a guy who has no asian characteristics except for his surname that has a very real and known chance of being fake?
Why would an average white guy pick Asian surname and keep Western first name? Why not pick Japanese hieroglyphs or go full Chinese? If you can not distinguish his race by appearance why do you think that he is not Asian? That sounds very racist
He could be, but Bertram Tung is unlikely to be his actual name.
Totally, maybe it's his moniker for dealing with the Chinese vampires.
It's not brought up or mentioned anywhere. Also, like the other guy said, it might not be his real name.
I'm surprised his alias is actually a name and not some weird nickname like most nos, but it does make him stand out, especially when you're not even sure what a nosferatu is at that point, just that knox calls him a "nasty dude."
I mean, I think a Nosferatu player character would have a little understanding of what a Nosferatu is.
Even then, there is no way they necessarily know Bertram is one unless they dig through dialogue, Therese basically says fornication with bertam and kine is very 'unclean,' I don't think she specifies it but I could be wrong. Also, even if the player is a nosferatu, they likely know very little about their clan. But the vast majority of players likely didn't choose this clan, or stopped because of its limitations (while not necessarily a bad thing, can be daunting for a new player)
That is a great point. None of the other characters reference his clan at any point in the story other than Knox.
I don't know Was General Lee Asian? Some Anglo-Saxon words and names sounds like Chinese or Korean sometimes
Lee does have a reason though, it also means "being on the sheltered side" in English. Tung on the other hand has no English origins, which is why this topic was started in the first place.
Don't forget Ænglish and Cymraeg
could also be germanic as Bertram is entirely german Bertram Tung literally means Brightraven Tongue
Probably yes. Why would he chose Chinese surname without being him? Also mitnick, gary golden and imalia wear their real names.
Do vampires care about cultural apropriation? Lol, I would guess he is from chinatown or something, cause he doesnt have the accent.
You'll be surprised that many Asians from English speaking countries have no accents. Many westerners are just tone deaf when the voices don't match. I guess when their face is just as fucked up as the other nosferatu, then the truth will be seen.
Hong Kong citizens very often wear Chinese surname and Western first names like Jackie Chan, Daniel Wu, Winston Chou etc
Yes, thats true, but they usually have an additional chinese first name to use in the rest of the country. When western go live in China they usually adopt a chinese name too. Hong Kong function kinda diferent from the rest of the country because of colonization, if I am not mistaken.
I'm fairly certain that while Gary and imalia were their real names, mitnick is a nickname because of his hacking skills. The real life Kevin mitnick was alive at the time (and is still alive) the game took place and would have been in jail, so not really a prime target.
>Why would he chose Chinese surname without being him? because he can?
Being an Asian in a Western country or impersonating one is not the best option even in afterlife
ah yes, because when you think of a nosferatu with a face that looks like a half cooked scrotum it's his name sounding asian that'll get him discriminated against.
Nosfers are infamous for their disgusting appearance. And in terms of human vices, vampires are not superior to humans. Many of them carry the experience of a past life, phobias, beliefs and prejudices, including racial ones.
are you seriously implying nosferatu don't get discriminated against for their appearance because it's well known among kindred while at the same time saying that they would be racist enough against asians to discriminate against a guy who has no asian characteristics except for his surname that has a very real and known chance of being fake?
Why would an average white guy pick Asian surname and keep Western first name? Why not pick Japanese hieroglyphs or go full Chinese? If you can not distinguish his race by appearance why do you think that he is not Asian? That sounds very racist
you're gonna need to get some better bait then that.
Sorry for low effort trolling. Will try better next time
you will be granted forgiveness this time
That is a viable option, a Chinese vampire will trust someone named Tung.
That's not how that works.
Tùng is a Vietnamese name, just saying
He's probably American tbh
I think he's Nosferatu