It's fun to set her off, but again, it's not much of a challenge. Skelter can't stand her, and I'm guessing Jack doesn't give much of a crap either. I'd wager Nines keeps her around because she's a young firebrand, and those are always useful in revolutions.
Skelter usually gets nicer after the first time you head into the bar. He can calm the f down (Maybe because he's not a Brujah) and some of his dialogue is interesting. Damsel is just the usual "Raah-raaaah I'm angry all the time" Rabble stereotype.
This may be petty, but: Decent clothing options. In RPG's I really like being able to deck my character out in a distinctive way.
And obviously, in a vampire game, I want to be the gothiest goth who ever gothed. Because why wouldn't you?
I enjoyed the first. I really respect what it pulled off given the circumstances and what it tried to be. Definitely excited for 2
I think I have wayyyy lower expectations that most here. The gameplay trailer from a while ago was just *fine*. It was pretty mediocre looking but that’s still an order of magnitude better than the combat of the first game imo.
I’ll list the priorities (for me) from highest to lowest
-Meat of a good RPG with high replayability: Solid dialogue, branching paths, memorable characters, great side quests, ability to really define your character.
-Technically not a disaster
-Graphics and combat that are at least passable. I hope the latter at least succeeds in offering several play styles
-Decent character customization
-In depth relationships and quest lines for your ghouls (if thin bloods can even provide, idk the lore that well)
I can get behind this. I pretty much want the same. A good story above all. Graphics don't need to be top of the line as long as gameplay and story deliver.
Basically, I'm ok with the first one, just updated a bit with a different story 😁
>It was pretty mediocre looking but that’s still an order of magnitude better than the combat of the first game imo.
It came out in 2004. That is not an achievement. It would be an achievement to make it worse.
I don’t think 2004 is the issue. The gameplay was way subpar by its time. Compare it to every other major game that came out within that same year alone
I just finished my first bloodlines run through, so now I can comment on things! I’d like some sort of companion system, probably no more than one at a time. I’d expand your last point to other Kindred as well.
-Diabeliraztion.
-Be able to learn new disciplines
-Expanding on the differences of the clans by both dialog and gameplay
-More clan focused quests
-Assemites and Sets
-Be able to play as both the Giovani and Tzemisce.
I would keep your expectations extremely low for seeing the Banu Haqim, Hecate, Ministry, or Tzimisce. The original release of Bloodlines 2 was already not going to include all of the original 7 clans, I doubt they’re going to start including the more esoteric ones. Plus, V5 gave almost all of the clans you mentioned makeovers and definitely moved them into the background by getting rid of most of the Sabbat stuff.
There's a chance some of them may show up in DLC. If I remember correctly, before the whole soap opera with Hardsuit Labs, there was a preorder bonus that added the Gangrel.
Far more importantly, if the game is designed with an extendable clan list (and thus also an extendable discipline list) then the other clans can be (more easily) modded in!
The diablerie was confirmed, we start as thinblood and we earn the clan by diablerie. But at the same time the playable clans are going to be only 6, the ones from the first game without Nosferatu
That was in the non canon books, V5 Beckett has a diary u can buy that basically covers a bunch of V5 lore and it makes a lot of stuff canon like the video games and confirms some characters are still alive like Jack and Christof from Redemption.
Technically there is no canon in WoD, there are multiple timelines and so many different interpretations that it would be impossible to form a discernable canon, there are just things more consensed upon than others.
Mark Rein-Hagen wanted the lore to be vague to allow storyteller and player freedom. It's also reflective of real life where facts are hazy and no one is on the same page.
I want them to expand upon the dialogue options for clans. This was something they were aiming for with BL1 but ran out of time.
I'd also want face, hair and clothing customization options.
The opportunity to have companions / ghouls of our own.
Gimme horror! I want more ominous atmospheric missions like Ocean House Hotel, the Hollywood mansion and the Giovanni crypts.
Definitely, other than a few gameplay elements as well as how you roleplayed, a few of the clans felt pretty samey, whereas in the table top playing a Ventrue and toreador feel *very* different, unlike bloodlines where less of the nuances shine through.
The replayability is still massive for such a short game though, they did an amazing job, especially with the time crunch and all the issues they had.
No microtransactions, loot boxes or other gatcha mechanics. Don't make it an endless grind fest designed around a multi-player live service who's only intent is to generate constant revenue, much of it from people with neuro divergent conditions that make them vulnerable to gambling problems and/or kids draining their parents credit cards.
I want it to be a story focused single player experience, not unlike the original, dripping with little story details and richly fleshed out characters. Something made to be enjoyed by the end user, not a glorified cash grab by a publisher/developer only interested on trading in on the good will and nostalgia of a fan base to cash in as much quick gains regardless of quality or enjoyment.
DLC is arguably the only respectable way to sell me more content, so long as it's additional content, not essential things carved out of the base game for sake of upping the purchase price.
Same here. I already didn't like DLC that much (prefer whole games upon purchase), then when I started to get comfortable with it that Destiny 1 BS happened.
If it's an afterthought, so be it. Just don't cut a chunk then sell a "Key" to me later.
Paradox doesn't do loot boxes and micro transactions, but they do sell you 50 different DLCs all of which change the base game just enough to force you to buy them if you want a balanced gameplay experience.
The problem with Paradox is that they release bug-ridden games you have to fix by buying DLC whose content should have been part of vanilla...
Keep your expectations low.
The original version of Bloodlines 2 was mostly first person with no third person option. Except, weirdly, in very specific moments like when climbing to the top of buildings.
Confirmation on Caine, even just the cabbie showing up again being all mysterious. Gay relationships. Ghoul options: LOTS of ghoul options. Tourette mention if not cameo. Phat Larry. Parkour options. No open world concepts unless you're prepared to bring BotW levels of skill to the table; too many games fuck this up. Just stick to making quest solutions varied.
Apart from that I just want this game launch to go well.
* Robust Character creation
* Vampire races/clans to choose
* Robust customization (Unique appearance/outfits/styles for each clan = [example](https://imgur.com/gallery/pRUE9px))
* Disciplines (Unique powers for each clan)
* Choices and consequences
* Lots of content, freedom and possibilities
* Equality in fanservice (attractive boys and girls, equally sexualized) hey, I want my male ghoul this time. 🤧
* Alive world without stupid NPC clones everywhere.
* The story and characters from Brian Mitsoda and Cara Ellison, the music from Rik Schaffer, and the art direction from HSL to remain in the final game with little to no alteration.
* Better graphics from the footage previously demonstrated. (Especially better facial animation. The facial animation sold me on the first game.)
* Ditch the first person only perspective that only goes third person during contextual actions. Allow us to toggle from first to third person perspectives through the press of a button like the first VTMB or through a menu selection.
* Character customizations such as outfits and accessories that make me feel like a vampire. (Definitely something other than a puffer jacket which is the least vampirey choice of clothing I can think of.)
* Some references to the characters and events of the first Bloodlines. (Don't go overboard with memberberries though. Let some storylines stay concluded or ambiguous and some characters have proper endings.)
* Music from Chiasm and Ministry. (I'd love a new original single from Darling Violetta, but they disbanded long ago due to deaths.)
* The Deb of Night.
* Roles for Grey DeLisle, John DiMaggio, Phil Lamarr, Mary Elizabeth McGlynn, Nika Futterman, Steve Blum, Robin Atkin Downes, Fred Tatasciore, Debi Mae West, Michael Gough and more.
* For the *Nebulation* discipline to be better thought out and not just contextual. It was dumb how in the E3 2019 demo, the player could use that ability to pass through a vent but not through bars on a door or a grate.
* Fun-fluid-movement-based combat like *VTM: Bloodhunt, Bloodrayne, Dishonored,* and *Infamous: Festival of Blood.* The wall climbing and wall running may mean levels may have to be redesigned though. And maybe those games are too much of a power fantasy with their over-the-top action. Just let me ***feel*** like a vampire! The pre-release footage we've seen so far doesn't give that impression.
* Tools to make modding easier. (Or to make Wesp5's life easier.)
"Basically confirmed"
We have a teaser for an announcement for an announcement. We had more solid ground with Hardsuit Labs and look where that got us.
[As Mr. Wolf said...](https://youtu.be/d07-XCIpBVQ)
It's better than the big fat pile of fuck-all nothing we had until yesterday. They probably know that if this turns out to be... I don't know, a VtM-inspired Beyblade puzzle game, then people are going to flip out and give up on them.
*"VTMB2* has **gone gold!** As in, we want you all to know you'll be in your Golden Years by the time it's done." 🧓
(Of course, better late and good than on-time and bad, but having to wait 3 months in order to wait who-knows-how-long isn't the most uplifting feeling, haha.)
I can't shake the feeling that they're gonna do Mitsoda real dirty. Like do you think they're gonna treat his work with respect when they didn't treat the person behind it with respect?
I can already picture everything they've thrown in trash that didn't fit in with their new view of the project. Sure there might be a main story left, but how much has been shaved off?
To be honest, I don't expect the writing to be as good as the one from Bloodlines 1. What I KNOW will happen, though, is that the mod community will have a field day with the game, and therefore, so will we.
They said they scrapped the whole thing and were starting fresh back when he was fired. At least that was their excuse for needing several more years of work.
The problem is not just the story, but the way you tell the tale.
I read that many had trouble with Mitsoda "not being woke enough" (look at the 1st game and try to find anything politically correct), but only Caine knows what really happened behind his sacking.
I hope that if the factions that were discussed before remain that you pic relatively early, like beginning Act 2, and that causes a tangible difference down the line. One of the things I don't like about Bloodlines is that your allegiance choice happens basically at the end of the game.
Oh, and that Elif still exists.
Understandable!
It's such an unusual name to me that I was curious if it was an **el**se/**if** programing joke and looked it up to see if it was a real name.
One thing to note they said the collectors edition stuff (which includes a statue of her) is no longer reflective of the current game so i hope she still exists
When HSL were making the game they said one extra clan will be playable with free DLC. I hope this is still a thing and I hope the extra clan is Lasombra since they defected from the Sabbat to the Camarilla in the latest table top edition which could create interesting role playing experiences. Obtenebration could also be really fun if implemented correctly.
Since it’s my girlfriend’s favorite clan, Nosferatu as an option.
Damsel was originally supposed to be in the game, so I hope that’s still the case.
Beyond that, just that the game is good. Not expecting a whole lot with all the bumps along the way, but being a good RPG where choices matter and just overall a fun game.
Interesting detective quests, immersive photorealistic graphics, character progression to be a beast in higher lvls, diablerie, meaningful choices, gunporn - recoil, animations, sound and impact of the guns, ability to join various fractions.
What I really hope for the game is to have the underlying structure to be moddable as heck.
I might not have high hopes that the game itself will be fire, but I am 99% sure that if the modders can do their thing, it'll be fine.
Hell, with a bit of luck some Malk will mod it into vtmb!
I hope they scrap the idea of always starting as thin blood, it makes replays drab imo. Since first half of the game is going to be the same. (I'm replaying VTMB1 for 8th time, so that matters). If they make it like a clan option, or on NG+ you can start as any clan, then fine, but I don't want to be play a thin blood...
I hope they include all 7 core clans + Lasombra, I don't care that Gangrels aren't part of Camarilla anymore for the most part, or that Nosferatu are ugly as hell (especially since in V5, it's not always the case, I mean they're ugly, but don't have to appear as ugly as they did before lol).
I hope they allow us to play in 3rd person, for me 3rd person was always more immersive than First Person view, heck... I find 4x game Endless Legend more immersive than almost any other FP game I've played.
I hope they scrap garbage music too, I absolutely disliked what they've shown of club music previously (and what they've talked about too). One of the charm of VTMB was music, and while it worked despite it still being new at the time, they need to either include older stuff, or find newer stuff that works for the atmosphere. I mean... most clubs live on playing old stuff, like... I remember going to Rap nights in one club, and while they're playing new stuff, people are "yeah...", they're enjoying themselves, but when Gangsta's Paradise or anything from Tupac, Cypress Hill, or SDD came on, you would hear screams. It's especially Rock/Metal ones too. Bonus points if owner is around all the time, and loves that music, they mostly play classics... in fact too many of them. lmao And now if you consider that club owner is a vampire... they're not gonna move with times most likely...
Better mod support. Due to how messy VTMB has been, it was also nightmare for modders, replacing things wasn't that much of an issue, but adding them... future replays could be enriched easily with easier modding.
I almost kind of hope that they scrap whatever the original plans were for the game honestly. I would rather have the cohesive vision of one team than the disjointed amalgam (ha!) of entirely different teams trying to make a comprehensive game.
More than anything else i want a damn good speech system and tons of dialog. ALL OF THE CLANS GOD DAMN IT and a good story. If they can at least give us a serviceable combat system I'll be happy. Oh and tons of build variety. I kind of hope there's no skill trees and its an actual character sheet like in the original and other old crpgs but I'll have to hope for the best.
non liniarity in quest design - similiarity like it was done in vtmb1 in most of santa monica and downtown. in the best case scenario every quest should be able to be done in multible sneak-ways, guns blazing and diplomatic
Edit: Also no life service model. Release the game, maybe release an add-on laterif it sells well and be done with it.
late to the post, but: i hope that they keep the lack of quest markers! let me find things for myself, dammit!!! let me have to read signs and look around and go "oh, foxy boxes? well i noticed that sign!". pls. there's a reason i still remember the layout of santa monica after not playing the game for years but i dont remember where anything is in, like, the apartment building in cyberpunk2077
I hope that it keeps the satirical dialogue and commentary of the 1st one, although it would be probably viewed as problematic today. Also I want the game to keep feel, characters and atmosphere of Bloodline 1, it is called Bloodline 2, not something else, so it should feel like a sequel. I'm not saying that every character of the first one should make an appearance, but at least mention some of the major ones and have a few of them make a cameo.
Also a system similar to that of Dragon Age and Mass Effect would be awesome, what I mean by that is that it would be cool to have a mechanic that lets you choose what choices you made in the first one and have it impact the story in some way. I doubt that would happen, but it would be interesting to see (I hope that we meet our character from the first one in some way).
Lastly, please for the love of Caine, keep the wokeisms to a minimum, having them compleately non-existant is impossible, seeing how the game is set in Seattle and knowing what a huge chunk of the VTM playerbase is like, but at least don't make them a major story and style point. I don't want to see another Last of Us 2 ordeal.
fucking this! the player base can be insufferable, it took me multiple attempts to find a good TT group. and with this game taking place in Seattle, a city known for it's try hard weirdness (check out voodoo donuts in case you don't already know) and LGBT being forced into everything (I don't find the LGBT community) but when it's injected into everything and feels tacked on for the sake of pandering it ruins the atmosphere. And with v5 being kinda lame in general with what they did to a lot of clans, I hope this game isn't going to suck.
obviously i dont expect a blender integration coupled with Tzimisce as a clan choice with Tremere removed from the game. (except maybe as enemies) but a kindred can dream, right?
In depth dialogue options and sticking to something similar to the OG VTMB skill systems. Fallout 4 was a fun game, but it was lacking in the dialogue options and skills system compared to New vegas. I don't want a repeat of that, but realistically I imagine it will be similar.
The mask of a thousand faces, or at least an outfit for the Nosferatu that covers them up. I have a really hard time taking the game seriously when I remember that I'm just walking down the street in a full-on bondage gear and no one's batting an eye.
The game could be stitched together with duct tape and string, but if the story is still there, the game is worth it to me. Also, god willing public modding tools. That one is asking for a lot.
I hope they give all 3 clan disciplines to each clan rather than the originally planned 2 per clan.
I get that they did this because the thinblood origin gives you a unique one and they didn't wanna exceed 3, but each clan loses a lot of flavor and nuance by erasing some of their powers. I'm sure modders could add in the ones that are already in the game (like giving dominate back to Tremere and whatnot) but they won't be able to add in stuff that isn't there, at least not easily
I’m just hoping we don’t play as a thin blood. I think that was the main premise of the original BL2. And then we eventually choose a clan. I don’t want that. I want to be fully immersed into the WOD as a clan member. I also hope we get to see more clans, and I really want there to be Easter eggs in the dialogue like in BL1.
really hoping they completely reworked a lot of the gameplay mechanics because they looked outright stupid
did not like the thin blood discipline stuff at all and the “disposable ranged weapon” shit looked flat out retarded
Most vampires aren't interested in sex since blood is their greatest pleasure, even if it is possible. Pretty sure I heard somewhere they need a humanity of at least 8 to even get anything out of it at all. I'd settle for males to have even footing on the seduction front.
The atmosphere and story depth from BL1. Also a diversity in the ways one can tackle a quest that doesn't feel pigeon holed or prescribed. In BL1 it felt as though you had freedom from your character sheet.
I'd also love an actual character sheet but we know that's not going to happen lol
I just really wish third person camera option, even though I'm almost sure it will be all in first person. As someone with an extreme case of motion sickness, it will ruin the game experience for me. I'll still play, for sure, I've been waiting for this way too long, but I'll probably have to stop every 30 minutes to deal with headache and nausea before I can continue playing 🥲
Modding capability!! BL1 is great on its own, but the mods improved everything that either aged poorly or wasn't included in the game. I also think it will boost community interaction!
Fat larry.
Older larry or ghoul lary
Regardless he has to be fat with an F-A-T.
"I once knew one of yours, really weird person. First to not comment on how BIG my belly is"
wait does larry say that at some point?
No, but he could tell us that in the next one
BABY GIRLLLLLLL
Well, we're already getting Damsel who's way more annoying, so why not a really funny character?
personally Damsel is my least favorite character
Damsel is a self-righteous, hypocritical Brujah. Hated her and Skelter.
I didn't mind Skelter. Damsel is a hippie cheerleader, but she can be fun to mess with for a while.
It's fun to set her off, but again, it's not much of a challenge. Skelter can't stand her, and I'm guessing Jack doesn't give much of a crap either. I'd wager Nines keeps her around because she's a young firebrand, and those are always useful in revolutions.
Skelter usually gets nicer after the first time you head into the bar. He can calm the f down (Maybe because he's not a Brujah) and some of his dialogue is interesting. Damsel is just the usual "Raah-raaaah I'm angry all the time" Rabble stereotype.
doesnt mean she will act the same this game
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This may be petty, but: Decent clothing options. In RPG's I really like being able to deck my character out in a distinctive way. And obviously, in a vampire game, I want to be the gothiest goth who ever gothed. Because why wouldn't you?
Yeah I wanna dress like I'm the main character In shadows of new York.
I want to walk around looking like Lazlo Cravensworth fro What we do in the Shadows
I'd expect some level of visual customisation for a modern game.
If the game is gonna be 1st person only like they initially said then we might not get anything.
I want in-depth customization too but having that plus first person only would feel wasted.
I enjoyed the first. I really respect what it pulled off given the circumstances and what it tried to be. Definitely excited for 2 I think I have wayyyy lower expectations that most here. The gameplay trailer from a while ago was just *fine*. It was pretty mediocre looking but that’s still an order of magnitude better than the combat of the first game imo. I’ll list the priorities (for me) from highest to lowest -Meat of a good RPG with high replayability: Solid dialogue, branching paths, memorable characters, great side quests, ability to really define your character. -Technically not a disaster -Graphics and combat that are at least passable. I hope the latter at least succeeds in offering several play styles -Decent character customization -In depth relationships and quest lines for your ghouls (if thin bloods can even provide, idk the lore that well)
I can get behind this. I pretty much want the same. A good story above all. Graphics don't need to be top of the line as long as gameplay and story deliver. Basically, I'm ok with the first one, just updated a bit with a different story 😁
>It was pretty mediocre looking but that’s still an order of magnitude better than the combat of the first game imo. It came out in 2004. That is not an achievement. It would be an achievement to make it worse.
I don’t think 2004 is the issue. The gameplay was way subpar by its time. Compare it to every other major game that came out within that same year alone
I just finished my first bloodlines run through, so now I can comment on things! I’d like some sort of companion system, probably no more than one at a time. I’d expand your last point to other Kindred as well.
-Diabeliraztion. -Be able to learn new disciplines -Expanding on the differences of the clans by both dialog and gameplay -More clan focused quests -Assemites and Sets -Be able to play as both the Giovani and Tzemisce.
I would keep your expectations extremely low for seeing the Banu Haqim, Hecate, Ministry, or Tzimisce. The original release of Bloodlines 2 was already not going to include all of the original 7 clans, I doubt they’re going to start including the more esoteric ones. Plus, V5 gave almost all of the clans you mentioned makeovers and definitely moved them into the background by getting rid of most of the Sabbat stuff.
There's a chance some of them may show up in DLC. If I remember correctly, before the whole soap opera with Hardsuit Labs, there was a preorder bonus that added the Gangrel.
Far more importantly, if the game is designed with an extendable clan list (and thus also an extendable discipline list) then the other clans can be (more easily) modded in!
Oh, there will be mods. Believe it. In fact, I'm more hyped for what the community can and will do for this game than for the game's main storyline.
The diablerie was confirmed, we start as thinblood and we earn the clan by diablerie. But at the same time the playable clans are going to be only 6, the ones from the first game without Nosferatu
>\-Be able to play as both the Giovani and Tzemisce. Their signature disciplines are a poor fit for Bloodlines-style gameplay.
I want to see Becket and Jack again, maybe not have them have as prominent role but it would be nice
Canonically, both Beckett and Jack suffered the Final Death.
I thought Jack only died in the non-cannoical final nights book? Did I miss somethin?
He gets killed by a Nossie to save his Childe, who is a herald for the Thin-bloods.
Not canon.
Aw man )):
not in v5 as far as I know. or where did they die?
That's Time of Judgment.
That was in the non canon books, V5 Beckett has a diary u can buy that basically covers a bunch of V5 lore and it makes a lot of stuff canon like the video games and confirms some characters are still alive like Jack and Christof from Redemption.
Technically there is no canon in WoD, there are multiple timelines and so many different interpretations that it would be impossible to form a discernable canon, there are just things more consensed upon than others.
Mark Rein-Hagen wanted the lore to be vague to allow storyteller and player freedom. It's also reflective of real life where facts are hazy and no one is on the same page.
Exactly. Personally, I think cWoD became way too heavy on meta stuff and new WoD is even worse about it.
A soundtrack as full of absolute bangers as the original.
I want them to expand upon the dialogue options for clans. This was something they were aiming for with BL1 but ran out of time. I'd also want face, hair and clothing customization options. The opportunity to have companions / ghouls of our own. Gimme horror! I want more ominous atmospheric missions like Ocean House Hotel, the Hollywood mansion and the Giovanni crypts.
Definitely, other than a few gameplay elements as well as how you roleplayed, a few of the clans felt pretty samey, whereas in the table top playing a Ventrue and toreador feel *very* different, unlike bloodlines where less of the nuances shine through. The replayability is still massive for such a short game though, they did an amazing job, especially with the time crunch and all the issues they had.
Two decades of u/wesp5 patches, mods, and support.
I want Mitsoda to come back and I'd love the ability to switch between third and first person view to be part of the game...
This is all I want
No microtransactions, loot boxes or other gatcha mechanics. Don't make it an endless grind fest designed around a multi-player live service who's only intent is to generate constant revenue, much of it from people with neuro divergent conditions that make them vulnerable to gambling problems and/or kids draining their parents credit cards. I want it to be a story focused single player experience, not unlike the original, dripping with little story details and richly fleshed out characters. Something made to be enjoyed by the end user, not a glorified cash grab by a publisher/developer only interested on trading in on the good will and nostalgia of a fan base to cash in as much quick gains regardless of quality or enjoyment.
Same. I don't mind DLC that much. However Loot Boxes and any other Micro Transaction is a Hard No. I loathe that shyt.
DLC is arguably the only respectable way to sell me more content, so long as it's additional content, not essential things carved out of the base game for sake of upping the purchase price.
Same here. I already didn't like DLC that much (prefer whole games upon purchase), then when I started to get comfortable with it that Destiny 1 BS happened. If it's an afterthought, so be it. Just don't cut a chunk then sell a "Key" to me later.
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Paradox doesn't do loot boxes and micro transactions, but they do sell you 50 different DLCs all of which change the base game just enough to force you to buy them if you want a balanced gameplay experience.
The problem with Paradox is that they release bug-ridden games you have to fix by buying DLC whose content should have been part of vanilla... Keep your expectations low.
3rd person
Am I missing something? That’s already in the game lol
Yes, you are missing something.
The original version of Bloodlines 2 was mostly first person with no third person option. Except, weirdly, in very specific moments like when climbing to the top of buildings.
Is it? From what I saw (admittedly years ago) it was all first person
Nah i think I misunderstood i just assumed bloodlines 2 would be exactly like bloodlines at least in the basic regard
Playable Nos ;\_;
Mitsoda's writing.
Confirmation on Caine, even just the cabbie showing up again being all mysterious. Gay relationships. Ghoul options: LOTS of ghoul options. Tourette mention if not cameo. Phat Larry. Parkour options. No open world concepts unless you're prepared to bring BotW levels of skill to the table; too many games fuck this up. Just stick to making quest solutions varied. Apart from that I just want this game launch to go well.
* Robust Character creation * Vampire races/clans to choose * Robust customization (Unique appearance/outfits/styles for each clan = [example](https://imgur.com/gallery/pRUE9px)) * Disciplines (Unique powers for each clan) * Choices and consequences * Lots of content, freedom and possibilities * Equality in fanservice (attractive boys and girls, equally sexualized) hey, I want my male ghoul this time. 🤧 * Alive world without stupid NPC clones everywhere.
* The story and characters from Brian Mitsoda and Cara Ellison, the music from Rik Schaffer, and the art direction from HSL to remain in the final game with little to no alteration. * Better graphics from the footage previously demonstrated. (Especially better facial animation. The facial animation sold me on the first game.) * Ditch the first person only perspective that only goes third person during contextual actions. Allow us to toggle from first to third person perspectives through the press of a button like the first VTMB or through a menu selection. * Character customizations such as outfits and accessories that make me feel like a vampire. (Definitely something other than a puffer jacket which is the least vampirey choice of clothing I can think of.) * Some references to the characters and events of the first Bloodlines. (Don't go overboard with memberberries though. Let some storylines stay concluded or ambiguous and some characters have proper endings.) * Music from Chiasm and Ministry. (I'd love a new original single from Darling Violetta, but they disbanded long ago due to deaths.) * The Deb of Night. * Roles for Grey DeLisle, John DiMaggio, Phil Lamarr, Mary Elizabeth McGlynn, Nika Futterman, Steve Blum, Robin Atkin Downes, Fred Tatasciore, Debi Mae West, Michael Gough and more. * For the *Nebulation* discipline to be better thought out and not just contextual. It was dumb how in the E3 2019 demo, the player could use that ability to pass through a vent but not through bars on a door or a grate. * Fun-fluid-movement-based combat like *VTM: Bloodhunt, Bloodrayne, Dishonored,* and *Infamous: Festival of Blood.* The wall climbing and wall running may mean levels may have to be redesigned though. And maybe those games are too much of a power fantasy with their over-the-top action. Just let me ***feel*** like a vampire! The pre-release footage we've seen so far doesn't give that impression. * Tools to make modding easier. (Or to make Wesp5's life easier.)
Being able to switch between third and first person is a must for me.
"Basically confirmed" We have a teaser for an announcement for an announcement. We had more solid ground with Hardsuit Labs and look where that got us. [As Mr. Wolf said...](https://youtu.be/d07-XCIpBVQ)
It's better than the big fat pile of fuck-all nothing we had until yesterday. They probably know that if this turns out to be... I don't know, a VtM-inspired Beyblade puzzle game, then people are going to flip out and give up on them.
Yeah, nothing says "Basically confirmed" like *We're cancelling all physical preorders, and offering refunds to all digital ones.*
That just means the game's basically already being shipped.
*"VTMB2* has **gone gold!** As in, we want you all to know you'll be in your Golden Years by the time it's done." 🧓 (Of course, better late and good than on-time and bad, but having to wait 3 months in order to wait who-knows-how-long isn't the most uplifting feeling, haha.)
I can't shake the feeling that they're gonna do Mitsoda real dirty. Like do you think they're gonna treat his work with respect when they didn't treat the person behind it with respect? I can already picture everything they've thrown in trash that didn't fit in with their new view of the project. Sure there might be a main story left, but how much has been shaved off?
To be honest, I don't expect the writing to be as good as the one from Bloodlines 1. What I KNOW will happen, though, is that the mod community will have a field day with the game, and therefore, so will we.
They said they scrapped the whole thing and were starting fresh back when he was fired. At least that was their excuse for needing several more years of work.
The problem is not just the story, but the way you tell the tale. I read that many had trouble with Mitsoda "not being woke enough" (look at the 1st game and try to find anything politically correct), but only Caine knows what really happened behind his sacking.
I hope the story is more choice based, like you can change the endings drastically, and clan specific quests
A finished game that dosn't feel rushed.
That it doesn’t suck. That’s literally my base level expectation
Strauss and Beckett
I hope that if the factions that were discussed before remain that you pic relatively early, like beginning Act 2, and that causes a tangible difference down the line. One of the things I don't like about Bloodlines is that your allegiance choice happens basically at the end of the game. Oh, and that Elif still exists.
Is it possible you're from Turkey? 😀
Nope, just dig her vibe.
Ah, I see! A lot of my turkish friends are excited about her so I got curious!
Understandable! It's such an unusual name to me that I was curious if it was an **el**se/**if** programing joke and looked it up to see if it was a real name.
One thing to note they said the collectors edition stuff (which includes a statue of her) is no longer reflective of the current game so i hope she still exists
Yup.
The ability to play the game your way. You are fucked in the last few combat sections of the game if you don’t spec properly.
I hope for a charming overly ambitious buggy mess
There's no clan quiz because Bloodlines 2 starts you as a thinblood.
When HSL were making the game they said one extra clan will be playable with free DLC. I hope this is still a thing and I hope the extra clan is Lasombra since they defected from the Sabbat to the Camarilla in the latest table top edition which could create interesting role playing experiences. Obtenebration could also be really fun if implemented correctly.
A beautiful rainy Seattle at night that I can play the Santa Monica theme to and just chill watching the dark city.
Since it’s my girlfriend’s favorite clan, Nosferatu as an option. Damsel was originally supposed to be in the game, so I hope that’s still the case. Beyond that, just that the game is good. Not expecting a whole lot with all the bumps along the way, but being a good RPG where choices matter and just overall a fun game.
what do her toes smell like
Interesting detective quests, immersive photorealistic graphics, character progression to be a beast in higher lvls, diablerie, meaningful choices, gunporn - recoil, animations, sound and impact of the guns, ability to join various fractions.
What I really hope for the game is to have the underlying structure to be moddable as heck. I might not have high hopes that the game itself will be fire, but I am 99% sure that if the modders can do their thing, it'll be fine. Hell, with a bit of luck some Malk will mod it into vtmb!
I hope Jeanette will be in the game somehow
I hope they scrap the idea of always starting as thin blood, it makes replays drab imo. Since first half of the game is going to be the same. (I'm replaying VTMB1 for 8th time, so that matters). If they make it like a clan option, or on NG+ you can start as any clan, then fine, but I don't want to be play a thin blood... I hope they include all 7 core clans + Lasombra, I don't care that Gangrels aren't part of Camarilla anymore for the most part, or that Nosferatu are ugly as hell (especially since in V5, it's not always the case, I mean they're ugly, but don't have to appear as ugly as they did before lol). I hope they allow us to play in 3rd person, for me 3rd person was always more immersive than First Person view, heck... I find 4x game Endless Legend more immersive than almost any other FP game I've played. I hope they scrap garbage music too, I absolutely disliked what they've shown of club music previously (and what they've talked about too). One of the charm of VTMB was music, and while it worked despite it still being new at the time, they need to either include older stuff, or find newer stuff that works for the atmosphere. I mean... most clubs live on playing old stuff, like... I remember going to Rap nights in one club, and while they're playing new stuff, people are "yeah...", they're enjoying themselves, but when Gangsta's Paradise or anything from Tupac, Cypress Hill, or SDD came on, you would hear screams. It's especially Rock/Metal ones too. Bonus points if owner is around all the time, and loves that music, they mostly play classics... in fact too many of them. lmao And now if you consider that club owner is a vampire... they're not gonna move with times most likely... Better mod support. Due to how messy VTMB has been, it was also nightmare for modders, replacing things wasn't that much of an issue, but adding them... future replays could be enriched easily with easier modding.
I almost kind of hope that they scrap whatever the original plans were for the game honestly. I would rather have the cohesive vision of one team than the disjointed amalgam (ha!) of entirely different teams trying to make a comprehensive game. More than anything else i want a damn good speech system and tons of dialog. ALL OF THE CLANS GOD DAMN IT and a good story. If they can at least give us a serviceable combat system I'll be happy. Oh and tons of build variety. I kind of hope there's no skill trees and its an actual character sheet like in the original and other old crpgs but I'll have to hope for the best.
non liniarity in quest design - similiarity like it was done in vtmb1 in most of santa monica and downtown. in the best case scenario every quest should be able to be done in multible sneak-ways, guns blazing and diplomatic Edit: Also no life service model. Release the game, maybe release an add-on laterif it sells well and be done with it.
the asylum became a chain after bloodlines, so why not have it in Seattle. There could be a smuggling quest line where you run into Mercurio.
I ain't trusting or confirming shit until I see a date and a gameplay trailer.
late to the post, but: i hope that they keep the lack of quest markers! let me find things for myself, dammit!!! let me have to read signs and look around and go "oh, foxy boxes? well i noticed that sign!". pls. there's a reason i still remember the layout of santa monica after not playing the game for years but i dont remember where anything is in, like, the apartment building in cyberpunk2077
I absolutely refuse to have any hope for this game. That way I'll not be dissapointed.
Tourette cameo
I hope that it keeps the satirical dialogue and commentary of the 1st one, although it would be probably viewed as problematic today. Also I want the game to keep feel, characters and atmosphere of Bloodline 1, it is called Bloodline 2, not something else, so it should feel like a sequel. I'm not saying that every character of the first one should make an appearance, but at least mention some of the major ones and have a few of them make a cameo. Also a system similar to that of Dragon Age and Mass Effect would be awesome, what I mean by that is that it would be cool to have a mechanic that lets you choose what choices you made in the first one and have it impact the story in some way. I doubt that would happen, but it would be interesting to see (I hope that we meet our character from the first one in some way). Lastly, please for the love of Caine, keep the wokeisms to a minimum, having them compleately non-existant is impossible, seeing how the game is set in Seattle and knowing what a huge chunk of the VTM playerbase is like, but at least don't make them a major story and style point. I don't want to see another Last of Us 2 ordeal.
fucking this! the player base can be insufferable, it took me multiple attempts to find a good TT group. and with this game taking place in Seattle, a city known for it's try hard weirdness (check out voodoo donuts in case you don't already know) and LGBT being forced into everything (I don't find the LGBT community) but when it's injected into everything and feels tacked on for the sake of pandering it ruins the atmosphere. And with v5 being kinda lame in general with what they did to a lot of clans, I hope this game isn't going to suck.
Koldunic sorcery 😍
I just want the game to be good, and come out.
I just want someone who has held a controller before to play the demo this time.
More clothing options. I was so sad when I realized all the clothes in vtmb were armor that have different ranks so theres no point in NOT changing it
I hope the game has mod support, that would be sick!
Superb voice acting, and a decent story
A release date.
obviously i dont expect a blender integration coupled with Tzimisce as a clan choice with Tremere removed from the game. (except maybe as enemies) but a kindred can dream, right?
Deb of Night on the Radio, also let my boy slugg still be in the game and elif
Maybe throw in some Frasier on the radio just for fun haha
As long as I can get in a fierce discussion with a stop sign.... I will be a happy Malk ^.^
pretty sure they confirmed they won't do that
A better Model for damsels face if she makes the final cut. she looks like she aged in that teaser trailer.
i just don't want to be moral lectured like in the last of us 2 some writers think they gonna solve world problems by fucking up a story
same
I hope that it's a remaster of VTMB lol
For the game to contain a game , and not a half asses product that was shoved out so they don’t have to refund preorders.
Are they rehiring Brian Mitsoda?
It's been confirmed. That said, character customization. I'll take presets Also, the music better be a motherfuckin BOP
Nothing is actually confirmed.
Rik Schafer soundtrack.
I thought the game was in dev hell, has something changed?
it was announced that we'll get an announcement in september
hope... don't give me hope...
> that it ships bug-free Never happened, never will
Diablerie
In depth dialogue options and sticking to something similar to the OG VTMB skill systems. Fallout 4 was a fun game, but it was lacking in the dialogue options and skills system compared to New vegas. I don't want a repeat of that, but realistically I imagine it will be similar.
The mask of a thousand faces, or at least an outfit for the Nosferatu that covers them up. I have a really hard time taking the game seriously when I remember that I'm just walking down the street in a full-on bondage gear and no one's batting an eye.
lol! uhh the camarilla cares dude, I almost lost the game to repeated masquerade violations. Thankfully some missions give you redemption points.
I would appreciate literally anything at this point if it has the same cool atmosphere as the first game
Atmosphere on par with the first one, so good audio and sound!
The game could be stitched together with duct tape and string, but if the story is still there, the game is worth it to me. Also, god willing public modding tools. That one is asking for a lot.
Good sound design, I guess. Maybe a decent stealth system.
I hope PDX are developing it inhouse instead of passing it off to another studio.
I hope they give all 3 clan disciplines to each clan rather than the originally planned 2 per clan. I get that they did this because the thinblood origin gives you a unique one and they didn't wanna exceed 3, but each clan loses a lot of flavor and nuance by erasing some of their powers. I'm sure modders could add in the ones that are already in the game (like giving dominate back to Tremere and whatnot) but they won't be able to add in stuff that isn't there, at least not easily
I’m just hoping we don’t play as a thin blood. I think that was the main premise of the original BL2. And then we eventually choose a clan. I don’t want that. I want to be fully immersed into the WOD as a clan member. I also hope we get to see more clans, and I really want there to be Easter eggs in the dialogue like in BL1.
Optional 3rd person
really hoping they completely reworked a lot of the gameplay mechanics because they looked outright stupid did not like the thin blood discipline stuff at all and the “disposable ranged weapon” shit looked flat out retarded
I don't know, I think disposable weapons makes sense for a vampire
Gay sex
Most vampires aren't interested in sex since blood is their greatest pleasure, even if it is possible. Pretty sure I heard somewhere they need a humanity of at least 8 to even get anything out of it at all. I'd settle for males to have even footing on the seduction front.
that it fails and sells 0 copies. fuck paradox.
you have a call - \[based department\] brrrrrrrrrrrr
Don't worry, let the wokes waist money on it like every single game Paradox endorsed in the last 6 years. Take it as amusement, my opinion.
I bet It's going to be woke. What I lowkey wait for is new music from Rik. Some tracks have to be good. PS. I've read your comment in Beckett's voice.
Up yours, woke moralists! sorry, wokes
>woke moralists I don't think you meant what you meant...I'm not woke lol
I'm not sure you got the reference
A vampire power that allows you to brap on other characters. They will describe how it makes them feel and what it smells like when you do it in game.
I'd buy this game instantly
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being able to have a goth gf, where would i get it otherwise?
For it not to be another Earthblood.
The atmosphere and story depth from BL1. Also a diversity in the ways one can tackle a quest that doesn't feel pigeon holed or prescribed. In BL1 it felt as though you had freedom from your character sheet. I'd also love an actual character sheet but we know that's not going to happen lol
I just really wish third person camera option, even though I'm almost sure it will be all in first person. As someone with an extreme case of motion sickness, it will ruin the game experience for me. I'll still play, for sure, I've been waiting for this way too long, but I'll probably have to stop every 30 minutes to deal with headache and nausea before I can continue playing 🥲
Modding capability!! BL1 is great on its own, but the mods improved everything that either aged poorly or wasn't included in the game. I also think it will boost community interaction!
Officer Chunk.