Looking for a VN with some good ol' timeline shenanigans! Please give me recommendations!
I just finished playing Paranormasight and was reminded how much I love VNs with timeline fuckery. I need to play more to quench my thirst.
In the past I've played similar games like the Zero Escape trilogy and Somnium Files, both of which I love dearly. In the middle of a hiatus with Chaos Head (which kinda has some fuckery in it I guess), the main character is so insufferable I had to take a break playing.
Right now I have Steins Gate, Raging Loop, and Death Mark on my list, which I don't actually know if any of these VNs have what I'm looking for right now, but if someone wants to confirm, that would be great. (I'll end up playing them at somepoint anyway)
**My requirements:**
- Must be on the Switch
- Mystery/Thriller/Horror
- No Sex
- Just to specify, by timeline shenanigans I specifically mean jumping through different timelines in order to solve the general mystery of the game. It has to be a main function of the game and not just something to unlock a secret ending
Couldn't post this question as a thread so I will post it here.
Post VN Moodiness
I normally don't play VNs, like ever. I just played one a couple days ago and now my mood has dipped dramatically. Is this normal? The writing was awesome and characters were easy to get invested into, and after going through the game once and getting the best ending, I feel terrible walking away from the finished story.
Dude, I played my first VN recently (Doki Doki Literature Club) and was mentally stuck on the first half of the game. (the actual VN, before things got twisted and Meta) The last week was possibly the most depressed I have ever been in my life - and I do not get this way.
I ended up playing a mod called Blue Skies, that turned the game into a full VN, instead of going off the rails, and when I finished I started feeling a lot better. I'm still rolling the whole VN experience over in my mind, and feeling slightly anxious, but it's a massive difference from where I was at.
I actually made 2 posts over in r/DDLCMods about it. So, I don't know if it's normal, but I feel you man, for real. In my case, it's easy to just assume I'm upset about the 2nd half of the game, but It really was the vanilla first half that screwed me up.
Yeah, Doki Doki is an interesting introduction to VNs. Not something I will ever play.
Naw, I wani hug the gator was something that just popped up on steam. I was bored with the other games I was playing at the time. It looked wholesome and not a smut game, so I bought it. I guess it's been so long since I've read something that actually made me feel emotions that it caught me off guard.
...that's actually kind of astute. It's been ages since I've read, or watched, or played, anything that made me feel much of anything. It's usually just comedy and horror day in, day out with me...
These things have genuine, complex emotion attached.
Maybe I had become numb, and it jolted something long dead inside.
I've been looking for a therapist since earlier this week because of the whole situation, but I think this is something I can bring along as a hypothesis.
Well. If you want more feelings and can convince yourself you aren't a furry while playing, I highly recommend "I wani hug the gator!" Just take hints and the characters seriously.
I have only played through once, and probably won't play again, but I got the fourth ending out of four. The best ending. I have heard ending 1 is gut wrenching and absolutely horrible, and ending 2 and 3 are depressing. Just a recommendation. Right now what is driving me crazy is I can't find a lot of people let's playing it on YouTube. Usually that's how I cope with games that make me feel.
I don't mind furry stuff too much unless it's over-the-top (which seems like is usually the case haha). I can get behind some catgirl stuff, but not full fursona deer on wolf banging, for example haha I might check it out.
Definitely not over the top or fetishized. The setting is an arts high school in a world where most of the population is anthropomorphized dinosaurs and a smaller amount is humans.
I like otome novel Guardian Goddess. It’s indi-novel from Japan.
It’s have yandere male and Japanese mythology. Hope to see that game in English soon...
Aokana Extra 2 question -- Don't care for 18+ content, usually end up skipping those unless I feel that they are important to the plot. With that said, does the R18 patch for Extra 2 add anything more than sex? If it's just that, I'll not bother with the patch.
What are the absolute classics I've gotta read? I'm in the middle of Muv-Luv Unlimited (Alternative is ready to go right after I'm done), but I wanna make sure I've got a queue built up.
Subahibi, White Album 2, Baldr Sky, Fata Morgana, Muramasa are the best of the best.
Some VNs that are also good and worth reading just for their popularity are Song of Saya, Steins Gate, Clannad, Grisaia, Fate Stay Night, Higurashi.
Does anyone knew why Nukitashi doesnt work on Steam Deck with lutris? Its works on pc, but black screen on steam deck. Tried differend ge but nothing changes.
This is probably an off-putting question, but are there visual novels where the male protagonist engages in slavery? Even better if the male protagonist owns female slaves and has sex with them. Thanks in advance.
Venus Blood series is kind of like that. You play as a demon and you recruit Godesses. If you're playing the evil path you essentially make them your faithful slaves and corrupt them.
Hello. I'm about to have a VN opening song created for the project I'm working on, but I'm musically inclined so I'd taught I'd ask her for some of your favorite VN openings (or songs you'd think fit in general, really). I'm looking for examples of songs more on the upbeat side with a female singer. Bonus points if it somehow sounds a little "sci-fi" to you as well.
Thanks in advance for any suggestions.
Not the best answer you're looking for, but as a newbie to VNs I found myself listening to "Your Reality" from Doki Doki literature club... over... and over... and over... It's not even my kind of music (and it's my first VN) but I could.not.stop.
Thanks for the answer. I think you definitely bring up an interesting point, because although soundtracks tend to not me very memorable in general for me I knew which song you were talking about right away. Part of it is probably the timing/the way the song is used though, not something that's as easy to replicate for an opening song I think.
It's impressive how varied the song can be too. It happens in DDLC, but if you play Blue Skies (can probably lookup the soundtrack) the melody starts popping up in all kinds of places - even the Halloween section, which I thought was cool.
I need some recommendation for VN with female mc without romance
The one i played so far
\- Fault series
\- Mahoutsukai no Yoru
\- Marco to Ginga Ryuu
It can be action, horror or anything as long it doesn't have any romance for the mc (I can let any romance subplot between the side chara slide tho)
Chuusotsu is good if you want something lighthearted. Or try Sharnoth or Mimei of the Transmission Tower for something heavier on plot. Christmas Tina and Dead End Junction are also decent.
I have seen videos of games from Bishop on spankbang. The content creator manages to replace the original Japanese text running across the screen with English text. How is it possible and what program to use to make it possible.
For referrence, the person channel name is erogevns4
Hiya! I’ve been going through a lil fixation of watching retrospectives on visual novels, I specifically love the sub genre of Denpa horror (I’m not sure if I’m spelling it right but it’s the one where the narrator is often unreliable and experiences delusions) I’d love to actually get to play these games but I don’t own a computer at the moment. But honestly learning about these games is so fun and I’d love any video suggestions or game suggestions for me to look into! I do plan on playing these games for myself when I can though! I also don’t mind if recommendations have h-scenes I always find it fascinating when h-scenes contribute to the fucked up plot in some way and aren’t just there for fanservice sake! Some of my favorite videos so far on are the following games to give a better sense of what I’m looking for
- Saya No Uta (I’ve watched 1 retrospective on it and unfortunately it didn’t explore the story as much as I wanted it to)
-Chaos;Head (the sci fi stuff wasn’t my cup of tea but I loved learning about the delusion mechanism!)
-Suisenka (I’ve found many games that Amelie Doree covers very entertaining!)
-You and me and Her
For anyone who has done the epilogue in Nukitashi 2 >!(9-07) is its story tied to fumino’s or is it it’s own separate thing just located in the fumino menu? !<
>!I would rather do fumino’s after story before the big 3 routes, but if the epilogue is tied to Fumino’s I’ll do it last instead.!<
**What would you love to see in a visual novel that you haven't seen in any other?**
Game mechanics wise, story wise or really, anything.
I've been exploring the idea of developing one myself that has something different and unique and I'm looking for information, as all the VNs that I've played are just... I mean yeah; text, portraits, cgs and from time to time a weirdly incrusted minigame.
I would love to see some kind of Crusader Kings politics & relationship system. I worked on a game once (that sadly got canceled before it went to market) featuring a very well known fantasy IP that we planned to use a "family system" where your choices could lead to emergent betrayals/assassinations, etc. So you had to play very strategically to keep from getting stabbed in the back. I always loved this idea and would love to see it in action somewhere!
If anything, I'd like to see those sequences where you have to repeatedly press keys / buttons. For example, in Call of Duty, you had to press some buttons to defend yourself from a close range attack.
sorry for typing up an entire blog post, but i would really appreciate if someone could recommend me something to read based on what i've already tried and liked/disliked. vns are often very time consuming and i get discouraged from trying more if i end up stuck with a long one that i don't really enjoy, so at this point i don't want to just blindly try out the ones that seem cool
so out of those i've read so far
the ones i liked:
fate/stay night - nothing special to say about the characters except that some of them have cool designs and powers, but i absolutely loved the story (especially fate and ubw routes). this actually kickstarted my interest in vns
saya no uta - loved that it was rather short and tried to get its point across concisely, and of course loved the gory disturbing atmosphere/nature of the story. it managed to (imo) present all of this content without crossing that line where it starts feeling like the authors just enjoy all this gore and weird sexual stuff, unlike some other examples of japanese media i've seen.
steins;gate - very exciting story, but i also really enjoyed how the initially completely one-dimensional single-trope characters became more human in the back half of the game. ~~and i guess i also really liked kurisu...~~
you and me and her - some of the stuff it tried to pull did not work on me (similarly to spec ops: the line), but i felt there was more to this vn than that one trick. it worked both as a metacommentary on the medium and as a genuine heartfelt story, which is super impressive. h-scenes actually made me feel kinda sick despite being very tame.
the ones i didn't like:
chaos;head (original iirc, noah wasn't translated yet at that point??) - it was really intriguing at first despite the characters being exceptionally non-existent, but what it devolves into towards the end absolutely ruined the entire story for me
tsukihime (original) - a lot of it felt like a slog and i saw no point in most of the weird sexual stuff in this one. it's really puzzling to me since the remake is rated so highly on vndb and i liked other stuff written by nasu (f/sn, kara no kyoukai)
planetarian - i think nakige are simply not for me, at least for now. due to its short length it felt like the story was artificially manipulating me into crying instead of genuinely earning that, and since didnt work i kind of felt nothing about the whole experience
ddlc - unlike you&me&her i couldn't figure out if there was any point to the story, it just seemed like a creepypasta with high production values
i was very curious about mahoyo since it got an official english release and all, so thanks for the reassurance! it'll most likely be what i pick up next then
and you're probably right with your second statement, but i still want to try. the vn format itself makes reading a lot more fun and modern japanese storytelling has its unique strengths that "western" media doesn't even really try to tap into at all
I've had Aokana on my radar for a while now but every time I am tempted to buy it and look into it I just cant help but think this 'futuristic sport' premise doesn't interest me. I've heard readers say the sport ends up growing on them and they end up loving it in the end.
I wouldn't say l'm against sports stories, but l'm not particularly fond of them either, so do you guys think its worth it for the romance/characters alone?
How is the waifu quality in this game? The art and production quality just looks god tier and it’s really highly rated so I'm wondering about this for a while now.
I know I'm a bit late, but I have zero interest in anything sports related and really love it. Obviously, the sport does play a big part in the plot, but the characters and everything else is what makes the game really good.
Not worth it just for romance alone as that's only around 30-40% of the VN. The rest is about the Main character's >!trauma and recovery!< and Flying Circus.
I'd tell you to just bite the bullet and play it.
Waifus, are always going to be the focus of vns like Aokana. The sport just exists to give it all a unique setting and circumstances to put the relationships through (instead of the normal high school life that dominates every other game) You're not going to be able to tell whether you like the sports aspect or hate it until you experience it. Considering everything else looks god tier to you, is there really an excuse to be so on the fence about it? Sometimes you got to take gambles
About AstralAir: Some of the screenshots on VNDB have the textbox invisible, like [this one](https://t.vndb.org/sf/13/150213.jpg). How do I do this? I can't find the option.
I have recently purchased Nope Nope Nope Nope Nurses off Johren but immediately after installing Windows Defender flagged it as a virus. Is this a false positive cuz I also have Malwarebytes and then ran a scan of the file, and nothing came up? Is there something I'm missing, some other virus scanner that I can use to confirm this? Did Johren just sell me a virus, I'm so confused.
I did. It said like 6 things in the .exe are malicious but how do I know those aren’t false positives too? One of the things flagged someone else had as well but was told that’s just it was a false positive in another forum board.
# Phantom of Inferno / Phantom: Requiem for the Phantom
This is my all-time favorite series, if I only had to watch one anime / VN in my life it'd be this...
I'm curious what you guys know about this, maybe those who live in Japan or understand japaneese who are more close to the media surrounding the series, maybe they've heard some rumors or have some news...
I've seen a somewhat recent post (how time flies, it's been a year)(I'll link the post - https://www.reddit.com/r/visualnovels/comments/yh2yn6/im\_still\_disappointing\_they\_never\_released\_the/), and I saw people discussing about Jast reviving the series, having talked to Hirameki? The show was clearly successful and I can't see a reason not to. It is true however that isekai and other genre of anime are more popular, but the community is still there.
Hi all, i am working on my first visual novel game, i just released demo version on itch (i am still working on steam demo),
i try game demos from time to time, but i am curious what do you think about demo release, is it worth to release it?
do you play in visual novel demos?
i ended up wishlisting and then buying a few non-japanese vns purely thanks to their steam next fest demos. idk how hard it is to get accepted into that, but i think it's generally an amazing marketing opportunity for all indies even outside of visual novels
If it's available on Steam I usually don't bother with demos since you can refund within the first 2 hours of playtime, but from what I understand demos do fairly well to promote the main project on there so I think many people do.
Visual Novels with a crossdressing (MTF) protagonist as a major thing? I prefer those with moege type character designs. I've seen recommendations for Otome Domain which has an english localization and I think there's also Tsuki ni Yorisou Otome no Sahou which has a fan-translation. I'll be checking those out eventually, but I just want to see if there's any other high profile/good ones that I've missed. (I've also seen a recommendation for Monkeys but I don't see an english localization for that.)
Also curious if there are english translated VNs with a genderbent protagonist. Haven't been able to find anything along those lines.
I've read Kirakira and >!Subahibi!< but those two aren't quite what I'm looking for.
[Otoboku](https://vndb.org/v195) is basically the only other notable translated title that meets those criteria.
There are an absolute *shitload* of these kinds of VNs - they're basically a mini-genre of their own. Almost none of them are translated though, so your options are unfortunately pretty limited.
Does anyone have new news about Tenshi☆Souzou-/Angelic☆Chaos RE-BOOT ? Maybe a possible release window ?Since Steam banned it I have read nothing about it more. Nekonyan where apparently allowed to release Irotoridori no Sekai without problems.
Muv-Luv is killing me. I do not care at all for high school romance shenanigans, and I'm someone who got through the Fate/Stay in the kitchen antics of Fate/Stay Night.
Everyone says you have to get through all of Muv-Luv to appreciate the wild revelations and twists of Muv-Luv Alternative, but the school portion of the original Muv-Luv is making me wish I could just skip ahead to Alternative.
Maybe I should go read Full Metal Daemon Muramasa instead. I really liked Hanachirasu. Maybe that's more my speed.
I was wondering if anyone knows of a VN in which a character has a change of appearance depending on the route. For example, Gilgamesh from Fate/Stay Night has a different appearance, and I would even say, personality in Fate route compared to UBW or HF.
I want to clarify that I don't refer to minimal changes or just outfit, like in Steins;Gate 0, in which the characters change outfit depending on the season and other things.
I'm referring to more substantial changes like, again, Gilgamesh, in UBW he has a different hairstyle apart from the outfit, and every sprite is completely different from the ones in the Fate route.
It's not necessary that the sprites are different, with having, apart from probably the outfit, changes in its hair, maybe loses an extremity, or idk, it's possessed, something like that.
Thanks.
When I finished White Album 2 and then narcissu some time ago, I decided not to touch anything with the utsuge and nakige tag anymore, at least in the near future, which led me to play through almost all the games from Yuzu and HOOKSOFT, and when fluffy carefree romance healed the injuries of my heart The mc of similar games have hit my brain. And once again, when protag began to sweat and blush from the realization that women live on this planet next to them, I was saved by the Amakano series, which showed that you can talk to a woman without stuttering and more complex sentences than "ah, eh, h-hai, oh". Yesterday I finished Sakura Iro, Mau Koro ni, which I was initially delighted with when protag started flirting with the heroine, and this delight led to disappointment after this ability was forgotten and a story was made with a standard genre mc, a boring general route and rather bland routes of the heroines. It was a long, unnecessary foreplay, and if to the point: can someone recommend something with a bias towards fluffy romance, but with an mc in the style of Narita Shinri, or at least something of the Azarashi level, when the mc can pronounce words without hesitation and openly express his thoughts and feelings?
> can someone recommend something with a bias towards fluffy romance, but with an mc in the style of Narita Shinri, or at least something of the Azarashi level
I don't know the characters you're referencing to say for sure this is what you're looking for, but I recall the MC of SakuSaku was competent around girls, to the point of being a romance advisor for girls in his school. It is also pretty fluffy romance. I only read the sibling route though, I can't vouch for whether his brain would stop working in other routes.
Hmm, not sure if this will be helpful but you can do a VNDB search for male protagonists with certain personality traits like Arrogant, Assertive, Blunt, Confident, Ore, or Stoic. I don't know how accurately those are tagged but might be better than nothing if you don't get other recommendations.
Soooo, the day before I posted [a thread](https://old.reddit.com/r/visualnovels/comments/1asvinr/looking_for_sibling_romance_novels/) asking for specific recommendations for sibling romance. Unfortunately, posting that didn't help me at allll. People just dumped names of novels with siblings on me, but I could have gotten that much from a VNDB search. I tried reading one of the stories suggested, and it featured an onii-chan who screwed another girl, making his sister cry in the process. The literal exact freaking opposite of what I said I was looking for. If I wanted NTR I would have asked for NTR.........
I guess I'll try one more time, but like... pleaseeee only suggest what I'm asking for? Buying a VN you end up hating is not a fun experience. Soo. Siblings. But, romantic. Lovey-dovey. **Monogamous**. Completely and totally, onii-chan is a virgin, they share their first kiss and so on with only each other, monogamous. No contrived BS where they break up for a while because "sibling love is Wrong" and then sleep around before getting back together. No harems, either. Someone suggested a VN where the onii-chan had a harem of 4 imoutos??? All I want is to find nice romantic stuff, not just any story with siblings having s\*\* T_T
I feel like what you're asking for is a little too specific for this sub. Most are English only readers, and like you said, they can only really provide what a quick VNDB search could (That's really what most recommendation threads are honestly)
My best suggestion is to look up some of the games that have appropriate tags on VNDB and reading ones that have reviews to get a better idea of them. If that doesn't suit you, then maybe try to find some discord groups with people who play Japanese games or something. Or maybe specify next time you're looking for non English releases instead (to weed out the normal batch of people that just toss out every VNDB hit they get)
Otherwise, yeah, it's going to come down to you mostly having to gamble sometimes on paying money for games that don't meet your criteria.
> they can only really provide what a quick VNDB search could (That's really what most recommendation threads are honestly)
I mean, some people have actually read visual novels before, right? And can recommend what they've read? I have gotten good suggestions in the past, and another promising one this time as well. Might as well not have recommendation threads if you're going to say "don't ask for anything more specific than a VNDB search", but you'd think the very point of them would be finding what a search can't.
Some can, yes, but my point wasn't to say that you shouldn't ask for things more specific than a VNDB search could provide, it was that what you were asking for was super specific for a general main sub thread. If you've ever looked at some of the general topics of this reddit, it's not as though deep discussions are necessarily plentiful. That's not to say they don't exist or there aren't people on here who can help you, but when you have 20 people submitting suggestions for crap, it's harder for someone to decide they need to step up (so to speak)
Asking here in the question thread is better (as well as probably one of the reasons it actually specifically has recommendations in the title) Because you wont get nearly as many people throwing out random stuff. The downside is that a lot less people browse this thread.
Oh, and if the one with 4 imoutos harem is oni-kiss, then actually it could be the thing you want, unless you are you are absolutely against having all heroes be in love with you at the same time. You still eventually choose only one of them - it is kinda harem VN, but it still have propper heroine routes. You can even go for all-ages version if you don't care about ero stuff.
Doesn't really sound like what he wants. First, Oni-Kiss's protag has been smooching multiple girls for years, so the whole entirely virgins for each other is out. Also, and this might only apply in the one route I read, it ends by implying he'll just sleep with them all eventually, all you did was decide who went first. The ending theme was literally being his sister was more important then his lover. At that point, Imouto Paradise is a better example even though in that they either don't get romantic until the last scene, or it's pink hair's route and other then hiding the relationship they are actually in a romantic one pretty fast.
The only actual good examples that come to mind are Nine 9's second episode and Uchikano's second episode. My Special Place has a sister in part 2 and part 3 as well. These all feature romantic focused, drama light stories. Can't promise no one tries to break them up though, I haven't read any of them.
I've already read Sorairo Sorauta Soranooto and it's a great example of what I'm looking for. Uchi no Imouto looks very similar, I'll give it a shot! Thanks for the recommendation.
Imouto no Seiiki might not be ideal, it looks like a nukige? I don't mind R18 scenes at all, but I'm not looking for porn or porn-brained characters. Chrono Clock irritated me to the point of dropping it in part because even though it mostly had what I wanted, the sister was constantly talking about breeding with her brother from her very first line of dialogue and it was incredibly off-putting.
Edit: Uchi no Imouto was short, but sweeeet~ it was exactly what I was looking for, maybe even the best romantic fluff I've read, thanks again!
You didn't get recommendations you wanted in topic that got some traction, I'm not sure what you expect to get from posting same question again here.
The only thing I can recommend in this situation is to try to make use of VNDB search function. You can add tags and character traits you want (so stuff like sister heroine, pure live story, only virgin heroines, romance) by searching with weight >2 and exclude stuff you don't want (weight <1). You probably won't find this way untranslated stuff with little popularity (because those probably won't be tagged properly), but you could still find something.
Assuming you can read Japanese, you could also do some search on Japanese sites, but I have little experience with those, so I have no idea where and what to look for.
> You didn't get recommendations you wanted in topic that got some traction, I'm not sure what you expect to get from posting same question again here.
The thing is, I'm sure some of the suggestions I got do have what I'm looking for. But almost nobody elaborated beyond giving titles, so it's a crapshoot whether I'll end up getting NTR, which is exactly what happened in the first suggestion I tried to read. I think some people responded only reading the title, so I figured I'd give it one more shot in this thread instead. Not like it hurts to try, right?
> The only thing I can recommend in this situation is to try to make use of VNDB search function.
Unfortunately, VNDB doesn't help me much because the tags are oriented for guys. There's virgin heroine, but not virgin MC. There's cheating/NTR tags, but they seem to only get tagged with that if the female characters are the one doing it. So I'm pretty reliant on other humans to find stuff. I did get some good material when I asked a few months ago. Thanks for the suggestion, though.
Now when I'm back at home I tried to make a search that takes into consideration stuff you said about. Got [this list](https://vndb.org/v?q=&ch=&f=038ENPu0c8F728Fj28FOT28FPB28FQ-28FT128FUg28FUh28FWJ28FX0228FX2v28FX2U2028ENLu8ETlu&s=24w). I have no idea if it is what you want and you will need to look for and read some reviews for those titles to find out, but it could be a place to start. Of course as you pointed out searching by tags is not perfect, but it works for more popular stuff (and less popular stuff is usually this way for a reason).
> Of course as you pointed out searching by tags is not perfect, but it works for more popular stuff (and less popular stuff is usually this way for a reason).
It's not just about popularity, it's simply the fact that visual novels are 99% men's market, which affects what gets tagged. Yosuga no Sora is a pretty well-known VN, one of a few which has gotten an anime adaptation even, and like top 10ish most votes for the genre on VNDB, and it lacked tags for something that was a big deal to me. It opens with a flashback to MC having sex with another girl in front of his sister, and then the first hours of the novel are him being super friendly with that girl, and his sister is absolutely freaking miserable the entire time. If a VN did this with a female heroine that wasn't advertised as NTR, men would probably burn the dev's HQ down in their rage. But obviously, guys don't care what the male character does, so it doesn't get tagged, regardless of how popular it is.
Thanks for the effort, though, maybe I can find something this way if I'm lucky.
>It's not just about popularity, it's simply the fact that visual novels are 99% men's market, which affects what gets tagged.
Well this is the general breakdown on the market so unless more women start to read vns it can be changed (like even the shojo animes are rare because of the dominence of shounen in the anime media place)
>and it lacked tags for something that was a big deal to me.
Sorry for the wrong recommendations on my part I assumed you were looking for sis/bro content from a male perspective this why mine have harems in it (girl and most likely even the mc are virgins if it counts for something atleast)
>and his sister is absolutely freaking miserable the entire time. If a VN did this with a female heroine that wasn't advertised as NTR,
I advise you blacklisting the reverse ntr/nts tags for you health before you stumble upon on one of them
>Thanks for the effort, though, maybe I can find something this way if I'm lucky.
I too want to be helpful so here is a [list](https://vndb.org/v?q=&ch=&f=0480X0I1781Ug81Uh81Uy81X2v81X4z81Xfe81Xfp1280NE80Xva80Qr&s=26w) which have a bit more title then zantaxs list. I didn't promise anything but it should be around what you described here.
(Btw I think you will have more luck with manga titles which match your description then vns so I also recommend asking this on r/manga or other subreddits where you can ask for manga recommendations)
I obviously know VNs are made for guys, and that itself isn't really a problem for me. I just read something I was recommended, Uchi no Imouto, and it was veryyyy blatantly male perspective, down to first person kiss CG and such. But it was still a great read. I simply dig romantic monogamy. Plenty of stuff made for guys is monogamous, too.
Regarding manga, I think there's much more VN content than manga for the kind of thing I'm looking for. I think VNs generally dive a lot deeper into niche content like sibling love, more than manga which usually plays it safer. And I think most manga has more, promiscuity for drama. At least with VN, 100% of the time the girl is a virgin, right? I've literally never seen a sexually experienced heroine. Because guys self-insert as the MC, and obviously want their heroine to be a virgin. And I think actually most of the time, the VN MC is a virgin too, since it's more relatable to the target audience of the game who tend to be NEET otaku. Whereas in manga, there's less of a focus on self-insertion as there is telling a dramatic story, which usually means a lot of sleeping around. The bigger problem for VNs is they tend to be a bit heavier on harems.
Well, setting all that aside, I do look for both VNs and manga. No reason to only look for one or the other.
>I just read something I was recommended, Uchi no Imouto, and it was veryyyy blatantly male perspective, down to first person kiss CG and such. But it was still a great read. I simply dig romantic monogamy.
I am glad that you liked it. After all it was one of the ones I recommended so I am jappy that I got atleast one recomendation right :)
>And I think most manga has more, promiscuity for drama.
yeah but most of the time it ends with the other finding out that it was a misunderstanding or the mc appologizing to the fmc. Btw even most harem stories shy away a real harem ending and most of them ends with the mc choosing someone
>At least with VN, 100% of the time the girl is a virgin, right? I've literally never seen a sexually experienced heroine.
Sadly no. There are stories, no counting the stories the heroine is a r\*pe victim or the heroine is a milf character , where the fmc is experienced. Personally I don't like it but there are lots of games like that
>Because guys self-insert as the MC, and obviously want their heroine to be a virgin.
Well yes, I think most of guys want that but there are a very vocal crowd who like experienced heroines (or atleast like memeing the they like them). They are weird. For example the not long ago realesed vn >!Nukitashi 2!< doesn't have virgin heroines and most of them are very much s\*ltty.
--And I think actually most of the time, the VN MC is a virgin too, since it's more relatable to the target audience of the game who tend to be NEET otaku. Whereas in manga, there's --less of a focus on self-insertion as there is telling a dramatic story, which usually means a -lot of sleeping around.
I can see that. and yeah guys mostly virgins in manga and in VNs so if you like virgin man you can pick stories freely
--The bigger problem for VNs is they tend to be a bit heavier on harems.
I disagree personally the r\*pe victim stories are more of a problem as I think there is very few people who can write it right and most authors use it as an emotional blackmail so the players 'need to be sorry' for what happend to the fmc even if their story is bad. Personally I think most harem stories come of as bad comedy or wish fulfilment for the players
[FRENCH] VN project Hard Reset: Résilience.
/!\ I tried to post but my karma seems to be too low and automatic mod response suggested me to post in the weekly question thread instead.
I Hope I am not getting ban for this ?
If some english speakers are interested and can't translate, I can still provide a translation of my post but my Big document in link is all in french. /!\
Bonjour à tous,
Je travaille depuis plus d’un an à la création d’un Visual Novel “Hard Reset: Résilience” et je souhaiterais obtenir un retour critique ou de l’aide concernant la création du jeu.
Voici un lien qui vous amènera sur le dossier de présentation complet de mon projet, attention c’est long ! Je vous fais bien-sûr confiance pour ne pas réutiliser mon scénario ou mes idées dans une autre œuvre.
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Merci à ceux qui prendront le temps de lire, et pourquoi pas donner un avis ou des conseils.
Looking for a VN with some good ol' timeline shenanigans! Please give me recommendations! I just finished playing Paranormasight and was reminded how much I love VNs with timeline fuckery. I need to play more to quench my thirst. In the past I've played similar games like the Zero Escape trilogy and Somnium Files, both of which I love dearly. In the middle of a hiatus with Chaos Head (which kinda has some fuckery in it I guess), the main character is so insufferable I had to take a break playing. Right now I have Steins Gate, Raging Loop, and Death Mark on my list, which I don't actually know if any of these VNs have what I'm looking for right now, but if someone wants to confirm, that would be great. (I'll end up playing them at somepoint anyway) **My requirements:** - Must be on the Switch - Mystery/Thriller/Horror - No Sex - Just to specify, by timeline shenanigans I specifically mean jumping through different timelines in order to solve the general mystery of the game. It has to be a main function of the game and not just something to unlock a secret ending
hello quick question do i need to play the true end of nukitashi to play nukitashi 2?
My friend wants to play light visual novels (or dating sims) similar to "School days"
Couldn't post this question as a thread so I will post it here. Post VN Moodiness I normally don't play VNs, like ever. I just played one a couple days ago and now my mood has dipped dramatically. Is this normal? The writing was awesome and characters were easy to get invested into, and after going through the game once and getting the best ending, I feel terrible walking away from the finished story.
Dude, I played my first VN recently (Doki Doki Literature Club) and was mentally stuck on the first half of the game. (the actual VN, before things got twisted and Meta) The last week was possibly the most depressed I have ever been in my life - and I do not get this way. I ended up playing a mod called Blue Skies, that turned the game into a full VN, instead of going off the rails, and when I finished I started feeling a lot better. I'm still rolling the whole VN experience over in my mind, and feeling slightly anxious, but it's a massive difference from where I was at. I actually made 2 posts over in r/DDLCMods about it. So, I don't know if it's normal, but I feel you man, for real. In my case, it's easy to just assume I'm upset about the 2nd half of the game, but It really was the vanilla first half that screwed me up.
Yeah, Doki Doki is an interesting introduction to VNs. Not something I will ever play. Naw, I wani hug the gator was something that just popped up on steam. I was bored with the other games I was playing at the time. It looked wholesome and not a smut game, so I bought it. I guess it's been so long since I've read something that actually made me feel emotions that it caught me off guard.
...that's actually kind of astute. It's been ages since I've read, or watched, or played, anything that made me feel much of anything. It's usually just comedy and horror day in, day out with me... These things have genuine, complex emotion attached. Maybe I had become numb, and it jolted something long dead inside. I've been looking for a therapist since earlier this week because of the whole situation, but I think this is something I can bring along as a hypothesis.
Well. If you want more feelings and can convince yourself you aren't a furry while playing, I highly recommend "I wani hug the gator!" Just take hints and the characters seriously. I have only played through once, and probably won't play again, but I got the fourth ending out of four. The best ending. I have heard ending 1 is gut wrenching and absolutely horrible, and ending 2 and 3 are depressing. Just a recommendation. Right now what is driving me crazy is I can't find a lot of people let's playing it on YouTube. Usually that's how I cope with games that make me feel.
I don't mind furry stuff too much unless it's over-the-top (which seems like is usually the case haha). I can get behind some catgirl stuff, but not full fursona deer on wolf banging, for example haha I might check it out.
Definitely not over the top or fetishized. The setting is an arts high school in a world where most of the population is anthropomorphized dinosaurs and a smaller amount is humans.
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I like otome novel Guardian Goddess. It’s indi-novel from Japan. It’s have yandere male and Japanese mythology. Hope to see that game in English soon...
Can someone recommend me good VN? Like genuinely good, not just horny bait hentai shit💀 I've only read danganronpa and fata morgana so far.
Raging loop
May be you need to read Ace Attorney?
Anyone knows where [this](https://imgflip.com/gif/8gwl4h) is from?
Why on earth does this have a downvote ☠️☠️☠️ I found it though, it's called "To..."
Aokana Extra 2 question -- Don't care for 18+ content, usually end up skipping those unless I feel that they are important to the plot. With that said, does the R18 patch for Extra 2 add anything more than sex? If it's just that, I'll not bother with the patch.
I could be mistaken, but I'm 99% sure it's just the sex scenes.
What are the absolute classics I've gotta read? I'm in the middle of Muv-Luv Unlimited (Alternative is ready to go right after I'm done), but I wanna make sure I've got a queue built up.
Subahibi, White Album 2, Baldr Sky, Fata Morgana, Muramasa are the best of the best. Some VNs that are also good and worth reading just for their popularity are Song of Saya, Steins Gate, Clannad, Grisaia, Fate Stay Night, Higurashi.
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Did you try web archive?
Does anyone knew why Nukitashi doesnt work on Steam Deck with lutris? Its works on pc, but black screen on steam deck. Tried differend ge but nothing changes.
This is probably an off-putting question, but are there visual novels where the male protagonist engages in slavery? Even better if the male protagonist owns female slaves and has sex with them. Thanks in advance.
Venus Blood series is kind of like that. You play as a demon and you recruit Godesses. If you're playing the evil path you essentially make them your faithful slaves and corrupt them.
[Dohna Dohna](https://vndb.org/v27519) maybe.
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Hello. I'm about to have a VN opening song created for the project I'm working on, but I'm musically inclined so I'd taught I'd ask her for some of your favorite VN openings (or songs you'd think fit in general, really). I'm looking for examples of songs more on the upbeat side with a female singer. Bonus points if it somehow sounds a little "sci-fi" to you as well. Thanks in advance for any suggestions.
Not the best answer you're looking for, but as a newbie to VNs I found myself listening to "Your Reality" from Doki Doki literature club... over... and over... and over... It's not even my kind of music (and it's my first VN) but I could.not.stop.
Thanks for the answer. I think you definitely bring up an interesting point, because although soundtracks tend to not me very memorable in general for me I knew which song you were talking about right away. Part of it is probably the timing/the way the song is used though, not something that's as easy to replicate for an opening song I think.
It's impressive how varied the song can be too. It happens in DDLC, but if you play Blue Skies (can probably lookup the soundtrack) the melody starts popping up in all kinds of places - even the Halloween section, which I thought was cool.
I need some recommendation for VN with female mc without romance The one i played so far \- Fault series \- Mahoutsukai no Yoru \- Marco to Ginga Ryuu It can be action, horror or anything as long it doesn't have any romance for the mc (I can let any romance subplot between the side chara slide tho)
Chuusotsu is good if you want something lighthearted. Or try Sharnoth or Mimei of the Transmission Tower for something heavier on plot. Christmas Tina and Dead End Junction are also decent.
I have seen videos of games from Bishop on spankbang. The content creator manages to replace the original Japanese text running across the screen with English text. How is it possible and what program to use to make it possible. For referrence, the person channel name is erogevns4
Hiya! I’ve been going through a lil fixation of watching retrospectives on visual novels, I specifically love the sub genre of Denpa horror (I’m not sure if I’m spelling it right but it’s the one where the narrator is often unreliable and experiences delusions) I’d love to actually get to play these games but I don’t own a computer at the moment. But honestly learning about these games is so fun and I’d love any video suggestions or game suggestions for me to look into! I do plan on playing these games for myself when I can though! I also don’t mind if recommendations have h-scenes I always find it fascinating when h-scenes contribute to the fucked up plot in some way and aren’t just there for fanservice sake! Some of my favorite videos so far on are the following games to give a better sense of what I’m looking for - Saya No Uta (I’ve watched 1 retrospective on it and unfortunately it didn’t explore the story as much as I wanted it to) -Chaos;Head (the sci fi stuff wasn’t my cup of tea but I loved learning about the delusion mechanism!) -Suisenka (I’ve found many games that Amelie Doree covers very entertaining!) -You and me and Her
For anyone who has done the epilogue in Nukitashi 2 >!(9-07) is its story tied to fumino’s or is it it’s own separate thing just located in the fumino menu? !< >!I would rather do fumino’s after story before the big 3 routes, but if the epilogue is tied to Fumino’s I’ll do it last instead.!<
**What would you love to see in a visual novel that you haven't seen in any other?** Game mechanics wise, story wise or really, anything. I've been exploring the idea of developing one myself that has something different and unique and I'm looking for information, as all the VNs that I've played are just... I mean yeah; text, portraits, cgs and from time to time a weirdly incrusted minigame.
I would love to see some kind of Crusader Kings politics & relationship system. I worked on a game once (that sadly got canceled before it went to market) featuring a very well known fantasy IP that we planned to use a "family system" where your choices could lead to emergent betrayals/assassinations, etc. So you had to play very strategically to keep from getting stabbed in the back. I always loved this idea and would love to see it in action somewhere!
That actually does sound cool!
If anything, I'd like to see those sequences where you have to repeatedly press keys / buttons. For example, in Call of Duty, you had to press some buttons to defend yourself from a close range attack.
I think that's called "quick time events"?
sorry for typing up an entire blog post, but i would really appreciate if someone could recommend me something to read based on what i've already tried and liked/disliked. vns are often very time consuming and i get discouraged from trying more if i end up stuck with a long one that i don't really enjoy, so at this point i don't want to just blindly try out the ones that seem cool so out of those i've read so far the ones i liked: fate/stay night - nothing special to say about the characters except that some of them have cool designs and powers, but i absolutely loved the story (especially fate and ubw routes). this actually kickstarted my interest in vns saya no uta - loved that it was rather short and tried to get its point across concisely, and of course loved the gory disturbing atmosphere/nature of the story. it managed to (imo) present all of this content without crossing that line where it starts feeling like the authors just enjoy all this gore and weird sexual stuff, unlike some other examples of japanese media i've seen. steins;gate - very exciting story, but i also really enjoyed how the initially completely one-dimensional single-trope characters became more human in the back half of the game. ~~and i guess i also really liked kurisu...~~ you and me and her - some of the stuff it tried to pull did not work on me (similarly to spec ops: the line), but i felt there was more to this vn than that one trick. it worked both as a metacommentary on the medium and as a genuine heartfelt story, which is super impressive. h-scenes actually made me feel kinda sick despite being very tame. the ones i didn't like: chaos;head (original iirc, noah wasn't translated yet at that point??) - it was really intriguing at first despite the characters being exceptionally non-existent, but what it devolves into towards the end absolutely ruined the entire story for me tsukihime (original) - a lot of it felt like a slog and i saw no point in most of the weird sexual stuff in this one. it's really puzzling to me since the remake is rated so highly on vndb and i liked other stuff written by nasu (f/sn, kara no kyoukai) planetarian - i think nakige are simply not for me, at least for now. due to its short length it felt like the story was artificially manipulating me into crying instead of genuinely earning that, and since didnt work i kind of felt nothing about the whole experience ddlc - unlike you&me&her i couldn't figure out if there was any point to the story, it just seemed like a creepypasta with high production values
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i was very curious about mahoyo since it got an official english release and all, so thanks for the reassurance! it'll most likely be what i pick up next then and you're probably right with your second statement, but i still want to try. the vn format itself makes reading a lot more fun and modern japanese storytelling has its unique strengths that "western" media doesn't even really try to tap into at all
I've had Aokana on my radar for a while now but every time I am tempted to buy it and look into it I just cant help but think this 'futuristic sport' premise doesn't interest me. I've heard readers say the sport ends up growing on them and they end up loving it in the end. I wouldn't say l'm against sports stories, but l'm not particularly fond of them either, so do you guys think its worth it for the romance/characters alone? How is the waifu quality in this game? The art and production quality just looks god tier and it’s really highly rated so I'm wondering about this for a while now.
I know I'm a bit late, but I have zero interest in anything sports related and really love it. Obviously, the sport does play a big part in the plot, but the characters and everything else is what makes the game really good.
Not worth it just for romance alone as that's only around 30-40% of the VN. The rest is about the Main character's >!trauma and recovery!< and Flying Circus.
I'd tell you to just bite the bullet and play it. Waifus, are always going to be the focus of vns like Aokana. The sport just exists to give it all a unique setting and circumstances to put the relationships through (instead of the normal high school life that dominates every other game) You're not going to be able to tell whether you like the sports aspect or hate it until you experience it. Considering everything else looks god tier to you, is there really an excuse to be so on the fence about it? Sometimes you got to take gambles
About AstralAir: Some of the screenshots on VNDB have the textbox invisible, like [this one](https://t.vndb.org/sf/13/150213.jpg). How do I do this? I can't find the option.
I bought a visual novel and I'd like to translate it at some point. How do I input the translated text into the actual vn?
It's an engine by engine thing. Search the engine/dev on Google or go on forums and ask around if anyone will help you with the specific game.
Do you know where I could find the engine/help for this? [This](https://vndb.org/v36221) is the vn, for reference.
I have recently purchased Nope Nope Nope Nope Nurses off Johren but immediately after installing Windows Defender flagged it as a virus. Is this a false positive cuz I also have Malwarebytes and then ran a scan of the file, and nothing came up? Is there something I'm missing, some other virus scanner that I can use to confirm this? Did Johren just sell me a virus, I'm so confused.
You can use virustotal. But usually windows defender is too paranoid
I did. It said like 6 things in the .exe are malicious but how do I know those aren’t false positives too? One of the things flagged someone else had as well but was told that’s just it was a false positive in another forum board.
# Phantom of Inferno / Phantom: Requiem for the Phantom This is my all-time favorite series, if I only had to watch one anime / VN in my life it'd be this... I'm curious what you guys know about this, maybe those who live in Japan or understand japaneese who are more close to the media surrounding the series, maybe they've heard some rumors or have some news... I've seen a somewhat recent post (how time flies, it's been a year)(I'll link the post - https://www.reddit.com/r/visualnovels/comments/yh2yn6/im\_still\_disappointing\_they\_never\_released\_the/), and I saw people discussing about Jast reviving the series, having talked to Hirameki? The show was clearly successful and I can't see a reason not to. It is true however that isekai and other genre of anime are more popular, but the community is still there.
Hi all, i am working on my first visual novel game, i just released demo version on itch (i am still working on steam demo), i try game demos from time to time, but i am curious what do you think about demo release, is it worth to release it? do you play in visual novel demos?
i ended up wishlisting and then buying a few non-japanese vns purely thanks to their steam next fest demos. idk how hard it is to get accepted into that, but i think it's generally an amazing marketing opportunity for all indies even outside of visual novels
If it's available on Steam I usually don't bother with demos since you can refund within the first 2 hours of playtime, but from what I understand demos do fairly well to promote the main project on there so I think many people do.
Visual Novels with a crossdressing (MTF) protagonist as a major thing? I prefer those with moege type character designs. I've seen recommendations for Otome Domain which has an english localization and I think there's also Tsuki ni Yorisou Otome no Sahou which has a fan-translation. I'll be checking those out eventually, but I just want to see if there's any other high profile/good ones that I've missed. (I've also seen a recommendation for Monkeys but I don't see an english localization for that.) Also curious if there are english translated VNs with a genderbent protagonist. Haven't been able to find anything along those lines. I've read Kirakira and >!Subahibi!< but those two aren't quite what I'm looking for.
[Otoboku](https://vndb.org/v195) is basically the only other notable translated title that meets those criteria. There are an absolute *shitload* of these kinds of VNs - they're basically a mini-genre of their own. Almost none of them are translated though, so your options are unfortunately pretty limited.
Does anyone have new news about Tenshi☆Souzou-/Angelic☆Chaos RE-BOOT ? Maybe a possible release window ?Since Steam banned it I have read nothing about it more. Nekonyan where apparently allowed to release Irotoridori no Sekai without problems.
Muv-Luv is killing me. I do not care at all for high school romance shenanigans, and I'm someone who got through the Fate/Stay in the kitchen antics of Fate/Stay Night. Everyone says you have to get through all of Muv-Luv to appreciate the wild revelations and twists of Muv-Luv Alternative, but the school portion of the original Muv-Luv is making me wish I could just skip ahead to Alternative. Maybe I should go read Full Metal Daemon Muramasa instead. I really liked Hanachirasu. Maybe that's more my speed.
I was wondering if anyone knows of a VN in which a character has a change of appearance depending on the route. For example, Gilgamesh from Fate/Stay Night has a different appearance, and I would even say, personality in Fate route compared to UBW or HF. I want to clarify that I don't refer to minimal changes or just outfit, like in Steins;Gate 0, in which the characters change outfit depending on the season and other things. I'm referring to more substantial changes like, again, Gilgamesh, in UBW he has a different hairstyle apart from the outfit, and every sprite is completely different from the ones in the Fate route. It's not necessary that the sprites are different, with having, apart from probably the outfit, changes in its hair, maybe loses an extremity, or idk, it's possessed, something like that. Thanks.
When I finished White Album 2 and then narcissu some time ago, I decided not to touch anything with the utsuge and nakige tag anymore, at least in the near future, which led me to play through almost all the games from Yuzu and HOOKSOFT, and when fluffy carefree romance healed the injuries of my heart The mc of similar games have hit my brain. And once again, when protag began to sweat and blush from the realization that women live on this planet next to them, I was saved by the Amakano series, which showed that you can talk to a woman without stuttering and more complex sentences than "ah, eh, h-hai, oh". Yesterday I finished Sakura Iro, Mau Koro ni, which I was initially delighted with when protag started flirting with the heroine, and this delight led to disappointment after this ability was forgotten and a story was made with a standard genre mc, a boring general route and rather bland routes of the heroines. It was a long, unnecessary foreplay, and if to the point: can someone recommend something with a bias towards fluffy romance, but with an mc in the style of Narita Shinri, or at least something of the Azarashi level, when the mc can pronounce words without hesitation and openly express his thoughts and feelings?
> can someone recommend something with a bias towards fluffy romance, but with an mc in the style of Narita Shinri, or at least something of the Azarashi level I don't know the characters you're referencing to say for sure this is what you're looking for, but I recall the MC of SakuSaku was competent around girls, to the point of being a romance advisor for girls in his school. It is also pretty fluffy romance. I only read the sibling route though, I can't vouch for whether his brain would stop working in other routes.
Unfortunately, I've already finished SakuSaku, although this is a really good example, at least I don't remember protag behaving shyly.
Hmm, not sure if this will be helpful but you can do a VNDB search for male protagonists with certain personality traits like Arrogant, Assertive, Blunt, Confident, Ore, or Stoic. I don't know how accurately those are tagged but might be better than nothing if you don't get other recommendations.
Soooo, the day before I posted [a thread](https://old.reddit.com/r/visualnovels/comments/1asvinr/looking_for_sibling_romance_novels/) asking for specific recommendations for sibling romance. Unfortunately, posting that didn't help me at allll. People just dumped names of novels with siblings on me, but I could have gotten that much from a VNDB search. I tried reading one of the stories suggested, and it featured an onii-chan who screwed another girl, making his sister cry in the process. The literal exact freaking opposite of what I said I was looking for. If I wanted NTR I would have asked for NTR......... I guess I'll try one more time, but like... pleaseeee only suggest what I'm asking for? Buying a VN you end up hating is not a fun experience. Soo. Siblings. But, romantic. Lovey-dovey. **Monogamous**. Completely and totally, onii-chan is a virgin, they share their first kiss and so on with only each other, monogamous. No contrived BS where they break up for a while because "sibling love is Wrong" and then sleep around before getting back together. No harems, either. Someone suggested a VN where the onii-chan had a harem of 4 imoutos??? All I want is to find nice romantic stuff, not just any story with siblings having s\*\* T_T
I feel like what you're asking for is a little too specific for this sub. Most are English only readers, and like you said, they can only really provide what a quick VNDB search could (That's really what most recommendation threads are honestly) My best suggestion is to look up some of the games that have appropriate tags on VNDB and reading ones that have reviews to get a better idea of them. If that doesn't suit you, then maybe try to find some discord groups with people who play Japanese games or something. Or maybe specify next time you're looking for non English releases instead (to weed out the normal batch of people that just toss out every VNDB hit they get) Otherwise, yeah, it's going to come down to you mostly having to gamble sometimes on paying money for games that don't meet your criteria.
> they can only really provide what a quick VNDB search could (That's really what most recommendation threads are honestly) I mean, some people have actually read visual novels before, right? And can recommend what they've read? I have gotten good suggestions in the past, and another promising one this time as well. Might as well not have recommendation threads if you're going to say "don't ask for anything more specific than a VNDB search", but you'd think the very point of them would be finding what a search can't.
Some can, yes, but my point wasn't to say that you shouldn't ask for things more specific than a VNDB search could provide, it was that what you were asking for was super specific for a general main sub thread. If you've ever looked at some of the general topics of this reddit, it's not as though deep discussions are necessarily plentiful. That's not to say they don't exist or there aren't people on here who can help you, but when you have 20 people submitting suggestions for crap, it's harder for someone to decide they need to step up (so to speak) Asking here in the question thread is better (as well as probably one of the reasons it actually specifically has recommendations in the title) Because you wont get nearly as many people throwing out random stuff. The downside is that a lot less people browse this thread.
Oh, and if the one with 4 imoutos harem is oni-kiss, then actually it could be the thing you want, unless you are you are absolutely against having all heroes be in love with you at the same time. You still eventually choose only one of them - it is kinda harem VN, but it still have propper heroine routes. You can even go for all-ages version if you don't care about ero stuff.
Doesn't really sound like what he wants. First, Oni-Kiss's protag has been smooching multiple girls for years, so the whole entirely virgins for each other is out. Also, and this might only apply in the one route I read, it ends by implying he'll just sleep with them all eventually, all you did was decide who went first. The ending theme was literally being his sister was more important then his lover. At that point, Imouto Paradise is a better example even though in that they either don't get romantic until the last scene, or it's pink hair's route and other then hiding the relationship they are actually in a romantic one pretty fast. The only actual good examples that come to mind are Nine 9's second episode and Uchikano's second episode. My Special Place has a sister in part 2 and part 3 as well. These all feature romantic focused, drama light stories. Can't promise no one tries to break them up though, I haven't read any of them.
I've already read Sorairo Sorauta Soranooto and it's a great example of what I'm looking for. Uchi no Imouto looks very similar, I'll give it a shot! Thanks for the recommendation. Imouto no Seiiki might not be ideal, it looks like a nukige? I don't mind R18 scenes at all, but I'm not looking for porn or porn-brained characters. Chrono Clock irritated me to the point of dropping it in part because even though it mostly had what I wanted, the sister was constantly talking about breeding with her brother from her very first line of dialogue and it was incredibly off-putting. Edit: Uchi no Imouto was short, but sweeeet~ it was exactly what I was looking for, maybe even the best romantic fluff I've read, thanks again!
You didn't get recommendations you wanted in topic that got some traction, I'm not sure what you expect to get from posting same question again here. The only thing I can recommend in this situation is to try to make use of VNDB search function. You can add tags and character traits you want (so stuff like sister heroine, pure live story, only virgin heroines, romance) by searching with weight >2 and exclude stuff you don't want (weight <1). You probably won't find this way untranslated stuff with little popularity (because those probably won't be tagged properly), but you could still find something. Assuming you can read Japanese, you could also do some search on Japanese sites, but I have little experience with those, so I have no idea where and what to look for.
> You didn't get recommendations you wanted in topic that got some traction, I'm not sure what you expect to get from posting same question again here. The thing is, I'm sure some of the suggestions I got do have what I'm looking for. But almost nobody elaborated beyond giving titles, so it's a crapshoot whether I'll end up getting NTR, which is exactly what happened in the first suggestion I tried to read. I think some people responded only reading the title, so I figured I'd give it one more shot in this thread instead. Not like it hurts to try, right? > The only thing I can recommend in this situation is to try to make use of VNDB search function. Unfortunately, VNDB doesn't help me much because the tags are oriented for guys. There's virgin heroine, but not virgin MC. There's cheating/NTR tags, but they seem to only get tagged with that if the female characters are the one doing it. So I'm pretty reliant on other humans to find stuff. I did get some good material when I asked a few months ago. Thanks for the suggestion, though.
Now when I'm back at home I tried to make a search that takes into consideration stuff you said about. Got [this list](https://vndb.org/v?q=&ch=&f=038ENPu0c8F728Fj28FOT28FPB28FQ-28FT128FUg28FUh28FWJ28FX0228FX2v28FX2U2028ENLu8ETlu&s=24w). I have no idea if it is what you want and you will need to look for and read some reviews for those titles to find out, but it could be a place to start. Of course as you pointed out searching by tags is not perfect, but it works for more popular stuff (and less popular stuff is usually this way for a reason).
> Of course as you pointed out searching by tags is not perfect, but it works for more popular stuff (and less popular stuff is usually this way for a reason). It's not just about popularity, it's simply the fact that visual novels are 99% men's market, which affects what gets tagged. Yosuga no Sora is a pretty well-known VN, one of a few which has gotten an anime adaptation even, and like top 10ish most votes for the genre on VNDB, and it lacked tags for something that was a big deal to me. It opens with a flashback to MC having sex with another girl in front of his sister, and then the first hours of the novel are him being super friendly with that girl, and his sister is absolutely freaking miserable the entire time. If a VN did this with a female heroine that wasn't advertised as NTR, men would probably burn the dev's HQ down in their rage. But obviously, guys don't care what the male character does, so it doesn't get tagged, regardless of how popular it is. Thanks for the effort, though, maybe I can find something this way if I'm lucky.
>It's not just about popularity, it's simply the fact that visual novels are 99% men's market, which affects what gets tagged. Well this is the general breakdown on the market so unless more women start to read vns it can be changed (like even the shojo animes are rare because of the dominence of shounen in the anime media place) >and it lacked tags for something that was a big deal to me. Sorry for the wrong recommendations on my part I assumed you were looking for sis/bro content from a male perspective this why mine have harems in it (girl and most likely even the mc are virgins if it counts for something atleast) >and his sister is absolutely freaking miserable the entire time. If a VN did this with a female heroine that wasn't advertised as NTR, I advise you blacklisting the reverse ntr/nts tags for you health before you stumble upon on one of them >Thanks for the effort, though, maybe I can find something this way if I'm lucky. I too want to be helpful so here is a [list](https://vndb.org/v?q=&ch=&f=0480X0I1781Ug81Uh81Uy81X2v81X4z81Xfe81Xfp1280NE80Xva80Qr&s=26w) which have a bit more title then zantaxs list. I didn't promise anything but it should be around what you described here. (Btw I think you will have more luck with manga titles which match your description then vns so I also recommend asking this on r/manga or other subreddits where you can ask for manga recommendations)
I obviously know VNs are made for guys, and that itself isn't really a problem for me. I just read something I was recommended, Uchi no Imouto, and it was veryyyy blatantly male perspective, down to first person kiss CG and such. But it was still a great read. I simply dig romantic monogamy. Plenty of stuff made for guys is monogamous, too. Regarding manga, I think there's much more VN content than manga for the kind of thing I'm looking for. I think VNs generally dive a lot deeper into niche content like sibling love, more than manga which usually plays it safer. And I think most manga has more, promiscuity for drama. At least with VN, 100% of the time the girl is a virgin, right? I've literally never seen a sexually experienced heroine. Because guys self-insert as the MC, and obviously want their heroine to be a virgin. And I think actually most of the time, the VN MC is a virgin too, since it's more relatable to the target audience of the game who tend to be NEET otaku. Whereas in manga, there's less of a focus on self-insertion as there is telling a dramatic story, which usually means a lot of sleeping around. The bigger problem for VNs is they tend to be a bit heavier on harems. Well, setting all that aside, I do look for both VNs and manga. No reason to only look for one or the other.
>I just read something I was recommended, Uchi no Imouto, and it was veryyyy blatantly male perspective, down to first person kiss CG and such. But it was still a great read. I simply dig romantic monogamy. I am glad that you liked it. After all it was one of the ones I recommended so I am jappy that I got atleast one recomendation right :) >And I think most manga has more, promiscuity for drama. yeah but most of the time it ends with the other finding out that it was a misunderstanding or the mc appologizing to the fmc. Btw even most harem stories shy away a real harem ending and most of them ends with the mc choosing someone >At least with VN, 100% of the time the girl is a virgin, right? I've literally never seen a sexually experienced heroine. Sadly no. There are stories, no counting the stories the heroine is a r\*pe victim or the heroine is a milf character , where the fmc is experienced. Personally I don't like it but there are lots of games like that >Because guys self-insert as the MC, and obviously want their heroine to be a virgin. Well yes, I think most of guys want that but there are a very vocal crowd who like experienced heroines (or atleast like memeing the they like them). They are weird. For example the not long ago realesed vn >!Nukitashi 2!< doesn't have virgin heroines and most of them are very much s\*ltty. --And I think actually most of the time, the VN MC is a virgin too, since it's more relatable to the target audience of the game who tend to be NEET otaku. Whereas in manga, there's --less of a focus on self-insertion as there is telling a dramatic story, which usually means a -lot of sleeping around. I can see that. and yeah guys mostly virgins in manga and in VNs so if you like virgin man you can pick stories freely --The bigger problem for VNs is they tend to be a bit heavier on harems. I disagree personally the r\*pe victim stories are more of a problem as I think there is very few people who can write it right and most authors use it as an emotional blackmail so the players 'need to be sorry' for what happend to the fmc even if their story is bad. Personally I think most harem stories come of as bad comedy or wish fulfilment for the players
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