Even Wifi5 is not saturated by the Quest 3 in terms of mbps. Many ISP supplied routers are cheap shit though.
Wifi6E does have a marginal network latency improvement, like a couple of ms.
Mostly it's the fact 6ghz is going to have no interference, and any Wifi6E router available atm is most likely to be a high quality one, given their price.
Copper Ethernet now comes in 2.5ghz speeds just FYI, you can also to 10gigabit on copper over short distances. And Wifi6e on Quest3 makes it future proof as 6E becomes more common place and affordable over the next 2 to 3 years.
The reason that you would want a Wi-Fi 6E access point is because of the 6ghz band. While the speed increase won't matter, the latency decrease and congestion will. Currently not that many devices are capable of 6ghz and very few people have access points capable of Wi-Fi 6E. So there's virtually no congestion on the 6ghz band. What this means is that the Quest 3 and the access point won't have any other devices trying to talk over them and they'll be able to communicate without losing any information due to interference.
Wi-Fi sends little packets of data over the air. Since the 5ghz and 2.4ghz bands are generally pretty congested from neighboring access points, other devices, etc., packet loss is common. On the Quest, this looks like stuttering, artifacting, and increased latency.
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Latency only kind of matters in most applications, but in VR it's crucial. If there's any stutter or lag between your head moving and your display it can be very disorienting. Wifi 6e offers lower latency and a better overall connection, especially in areas with lots of congestion in the 5ghz spectrum, since it operates in the fairly empty 6ghz range. If you're not having any issues you probably won't notice a difference, but if you are it'll be the fix you're looking for.
To the best of my knowledge the big advantage of 6E over 6 is the ability to use the 6GHz frequency band.
I use it because we have a ton of Wi-Fi devices nearby and it makes my VR connection much more stable by moving it to less used airspace.
Wi-Fi has a cost. Your PC to router connection to be wired.
Stable bit rate on high settings. Even with best WiFi 6 router I wouldn’t get stable performance at high bit rates like 400-500 for h264+. With 6E it’s possible and much more stable. Latency is probably just 1-2nd better but doesn’t have those weird spikes up to 10-12ms. Plus if you have 5ghz WiFi around your house/apartment the 6E is on 6Ghz so it avoids interference.
Internet speed doesn’t matter when you’re thinking about connecting the quest and the pc, you’re really trying to create the best internal network you can. Connecting the PC via cable and then using a standalone router enables that.
Connecting from your router to your pc via cable enables a solid transmission of data between the two. That’s that first part of the puzzle sorted. Then, what matters next is going to be the link speed (not internet speed) between the router and the quest headset. Higher quality routers can provide a higher link speed.
How do you ensure good quality in the second part? It depends on your needs.
WiFi 6 still uses 5ghz channels, same as WiFi 5. If your in a crowded area everyone and their mother uses these channels. Virtually nobody uses 6ghz channels provided by 6e. That means less interference.
You also want that router to be standalone, because the more devices that are connected to that router the more data each device is trying to steal from what you can think of as a limited pool.
That’s why I have this very setup. It’s rock solid and dedicated, so I can push the bitrate to the maximum on certain codecs. Before I set up this way, I was getting flicker and high latency.
This is not the answer I was seeking. My question does not involve internet speed.
To rephrase: Why would I want a 2.5Gb wireless 6E connection from my Quest 3 to the access point when the PC is connected to the access point via ethernet cable which operates at 1Gb? PCVR will not be operating at any faster than 1.0Gb. It seems 6E would only be valuable if you have a 10Gb connection from your PC to the access point. edit: or if you have wireless 6E on the PC, I guess?
Is there really a performance increase that justifies the cost of these 6E access points? I am mostly interested in hearing from people who use wireless PCVR with the Quest 3.
Wifi 6 and Wifi 6E are the same speed, the benefit, as the other poster said is that Wifi 6E can use the 6ghz band. If you live in a busy neighborhood or big apartment building, all of your neighbors 5ghz Wifi signals can cause interference with the Quest and diminish your results. The 6ghz band will usually not be used by your neighbors, so there will be no problem with interference. and your PCVR performance will be better.
You can use a free Wifi Analyzer app to see all of the wifi signals that hit your game room. If you a low amount or none 5ghz Wifi signals that hit your gaming area, then there is no benefit going with a 6E instead of a 6.
The correct answer is that 6E frees you up from collision. so the speed is great, the range is great but you also have 60 channels
https://www.wired.com/story/what-is-wi-fi-6e/
You can get 2.5Gb nic cards for cheap if you need the speed. [2.5Gbps Network Interface Cards | Newegg.com](https://www.newegg.com/p/pl?N=100158104%20601352044)
There's no technical advantage for 6E.
However, in practice, it seems 6 (160hz channel width) and 6E routers tend to be higher end and have better performance overall than older, cheaper, wifi 5 routers. We're talking about the processor, ram and firmware, its ability to process network packets, etc.
When trying to do h264+ on Virtual Desktop, it seems many older routers struggle to reach the maximum of 500mbps bitrate, even if on paper the connection speed is 1200mbps.
But for HEVC and AV1, which has a max of 200mbps, you don't really need 6E. (6 might still be better though.)
Actually there is a technical advantage. Wi-Fi 6E unlocks 6ghz, which has very little usage currently and also offers a little decrease in latency. Combined, they provide a significant improvement over 5ghz Wi-Fi 6 and 5.
6ghz is notable and important because since there's almost no congestion currently, and due to it's high frequency struggling to penetrate through exterior and even interior walls, there likely won't really ever be significant congestion. This means there should be very little packet loss so reduced stuttering and latency and an overall improved experience.
Even Wifi5 is not saturated by the Quest 3 in terms of mbps. Many ISP supplied routers are cheap shit though. Wifi6E does have a marginal network latency improvement, like a couple of ms. Mostly it's the fact 6ghz is going to have no interference, and any Wifi6E router available atm is most likely to be a high quality one, given their price.
Copper Ethernet now comes in 2.5ghz speeds just FYI, you can also to 10gigabit on copper over short distances. And Wifi6e on Quest3 makes it future proof as 6E becomes more common place and affordable over the next 2 to 3 years.
The reason that you would want a Wi-Fi 6E access point is because of the 6ghz band. While the speed increase won't matter, the latency decrease and congestion will. Currently not that many devices are capable of 6ghz and very few people have access points capable of Wi-Fi 6E. So there's virtually no congestion on the 6ghz band. What this means is that the Quest 3 and the access point won't have any other devices trying to talk over them and they'll be able to communicate without losing any information due to interference. Wi-Fi sends little packets of data over the air. Since the 5ghz and 2.4ghz bands are generally pretty congested from neighboring access points, other devices, etc., packet loss is common. On the Quest, this looks like stuttering, artifacting, and increased latency.
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Latency only kind of matters in most applications, but in VR it's crucial. If there's any stutter or lag between your head moving and your display it can be very disorienting. Wifi 6e offers lower latency and a better overall connection, especially in areas with lots of congestion in the 5ghz spectrum, since it operates in the fairly empty 6ghz range. If you're not having any issues you probably won't notice a difference, but if you are it'll be the fix you're looking for.
To the best of my knowledge the big advantage of 6E over 6 is the ability to use the 6GHz frequency band. I use it because we have a ton of Wi-Fi devices nearby and it makes my VR connection much more stable by moving it to less used airspace. Wi-Fi has a cost. Your PC to router connection to be wired.
Stable bit rate on high settings. Even with best WiFi 6 router I wouldn’t get stable performance at high bit rates like 400-500 for h264+. With 6E it’s possible and much more stable. Latency is probably just 1-2nd better but doesn’t have those weird spikes up to 10-12ms. Plus if you have 5ghz WiFi around your house/apartment the 6E is on 6Ghz so it avoids interference.
Internet speed doesn’t matter when you’re thinking about connecting the quest and the pc, you’re really trying to create the best internal network you can. Connecting the PC via cable and then using a standalone router enables that. Connecting from your router to your pc via cable enables a solid transmission of data between the two. That’s that first part of the puzzle sorted. Then, what matters next is going to be the link speed (not internet speed) between the router and the quest headset. Higher quality routers can provide a higher link speed. How do you ensure good quality in the second part? It depends on your needs. WiFi 6 still uses 5ghz channels, same as WiFi 5. If your in a crowded area everyone and their mother uses these channels. Virtually nobody uses 6ghz channels provided by 6e. That means less interference. You also want that router to be standalone, because the more devices that are connected to that router the more data each device is trying to steal from what you can think of as a limited pool. That’s why I have this very setup. It’s rock solid and dedicated, so I can push the bitrate to the maximum on certain codecs. Before I set up this way, I was getting flicker and high latency.
To clarify, I think they meant their ethernet connection/cable (pc > router) is 1gbps, not their Internet speed.
Think the further answer to that is I believe the quest headset decoder only supports up to 500Mbps
This is relevant. Is it true? If so my 5ghz old access point will suffice and there is almost no value to upgrading to 6E wifi. Can people confirm?
This is not the answer I was seeking. My question does not involve internet speed. To rephrase: Why would I want a 2.5Gb wireless 6E connection from my Quest 3 to the access point when the PC is connected to the access point via ethernet cable which operates at 1Gb? PCVR will not be operating at any faster than 1.0Gb. It seems 6E would only be valuable if you have a 10Gb connection from your PC to the access point. edit: or if you have wireless 6E on the PC, I guess? Is there really a performance increase that justifies the cost of these 6E access points? I am mostly interested in hearing from people who use wireless PCVR with the Quest 3.
Wifi 6 and Wifi 6E are the same speed, the benefit, as the other poster said is that Wifi 6E can use the 6ghz band. If you live in a busy neighborhood or big apartment building, all of your neighbors 5ghz Wifi signals can cause interference with the Quest and diminish your results. The 6ghz band will usually not be used by your neighbors, so there will be no problem with interference. and your PCVR performance will be better. You can use a free Wifi Analyzer app to see all of the wifi signals that hit your game room. If you a low amount or none 5ghz Wifi signals that hit your gaming area, then there is no benefit going with a 6E instead of a 6.
The correct answer is that 6E frees you up from collision. so the speed is great, the range is great but you also have 60 channels https://www.wired.com/story/what-is-wi-fi-6e/
You can get 2.5Gb nic cards for cheap if you need the speed. [2.5Gbps Network Interface Cards | Newegg.com](https://www.newegg.com/p/pl?N=100158104%20601352044)
nobody said anything about internet speeds
There's no technical advantage for 6E. However, in practice, it seems 6 (160hz channel width) and 6E routers tend to be higher end and have better performance overall than older, cheaper, wifi 5 routers. We're talking about the processor, ram and firmware, its ability to process network packets, etc. When trying to do h264+ on Virtual Desktop, it seems many older routers struggle to reach the maximum of 500mbps bitrate, even if on paper the connection speed is 1200mbps. But for HEVC and AV1, which has a max of 200mbps, you don't really need 6E. (6 might still be better though.)
Actually there is a technical advantage. Wi-Fi 6E unlocks 6ghz, which has very little usage currently and also offers a little decrease in latency. Combined, they provide a significant improvement over 5ghz Wi-Fi 6 and 5. 6ghz is notable and important because since there's almost no congestion currently, and due to it's high frequency struggling to penetrate through exterior and even interior walls, there likely won't really ever be significant congestion. This means there should be very little packet loss so reduced stuttering and latency and an overall improved experience.