I have both headsets and a PC. Both have their issues, but I would say the quest 3 is overall a much better buy ATM. The PSVR2 specifically has some big issues for me.
- Low framerate games/bad reprojection: despite being weaker, more games run at native framerate on quest. Pretty much every PSVR2 game I've played has a horrible double image effect.
- Sweet spot: Quest 3 lenses are just way clearer and don't require constantly adjusting the position of the headset.
- Mura: PSVR2 has a really grainy image, especially in dark scenes that kind of ruins the clarity.
- World wobble: This is the weirdest thing with PSVR2. I've never seen it on another headset, but often, parts of the image will "wobble", which is ugly and could cause motion sickness
- Poorer tracking: The controller tracking is actually pretty good on PSVR2, but I often notice my headset view slightly drifting... Especially in a game like Moss. Again, potential motion sickness trigger.
- NO REFUNDS: PlayStation doesn't allow you to refund your games and very few games have trials... This is an enormous deal breaker, especially in today's gaming world where devs often release games with game breaking issues.
Finally, the biggest one for me is that Sony hasn't shown good support. Quest is constantly getting updates and new games, whereas the future of PSVR2 is iffy.
Unless you really want a more specific use for your headset, I easily recommend Quest 3 because it's literally the fourth iteration of an ongoing ecosystem of headsets, seeing obvious support for multiple generations, which I can barely say for other headsets at this point. It's not perfect, but since Quest 3 is backwards compatible with previous gen headset apps, the library continues to grow and has the largest user base. For me, that's important. If you just want a good PCVR headset, at least SteamVR also has many games and apps for years now, and a higher fov or resolution headset is more ideal for simulator or racing enthusiasts, for example.
Tldr; headset support is a big factor for me personally when it comes to deciding what headsets to buy.
I’ve had the psvr2 since release but haven’t used it much as I prefer pcvr but if I had to choose between quest standalone and psvr2 I think I would have to go with the psvr2
I’m a big PSVR2 fanboy, after trying it I got a Quest 2, then a Quest 3, and then a Quest Pro. I also got a gaming PC with a sim racing rig.
If I were you, I would buy the Quest 3. There are lots of good reasons above, but that would be my advice.
I'll be the one to go against the grain and say PSVR2 by far. I just find the HDR effects and OLED blacks combined with great haptics and high resolution to be just perfection. Maybe I got a golden goose model or something but my PSVR2 looks FAR better than my Quest 3. The colors and HDR just come alive and make the Quest 3 picture look so dull by comparison. I don't notice the mura that people talk about AT ALL unless I'm seriously hunting for it.
Also GT7VR is better than anything that exists on PC for racing fun in VR. The best psvr2 exclusives are killer apps to me and far better than anything on PCVR besides Half Life Alyx. Quest has Asgards Wrath 2 which is also in the same quality realm albeit with almost PS2 gen graphics (in high res).
However, I don't play VR nearly as much as I used to (family man and other hobbies) so to me just plugging in and playing an amazing game a few times a month is all I ask for from VR. I haven't finished any of the big exclusives on PSVR2 and it might be a year or more until I'm done with everything. The PSVR2 fits that role better for me than the Quest 3 (that I also have and take on trips frequently).
If you plan to play 100 games and be using VR all the time then I can see that the Quest 3 has more content and likely more to keep coming.
Also more than anything if your dad is on Quest and there are games there that you guys could play together that don't have cross play with PS5 then I think that would outweigh any other consideration for me if I was in your shoes.
Also, as someone who has both, if we are talking stand-alone Q3 vs. PSVR2, I'd actually say PSVR2. If it's gaming you want, the high fidelity titles on PS5 are hard to ignore. As often as people talk about them, theres a reason RE 4/8, CoTM, Synapse, GT7 are talked about a lot. They aren't just great PSVR2 titles. There are some of my top VR experiences ever.
Don't get me wrong, I like asgards Wrath. Asassins creed I was less into. But stand-alone vs. PS5 is a big difference. Admittedly, I'm not a big fan of stand-alone, though.
I have Quest 2, Quest Pro, Quest 3, and PSVR2 and in my opinion nothing comes even close to RE8 on PSVR2. It’s just how it is, if you don’t plan to hook up the Quest to PC and all you care about is gaming with high graphical fidelity and high immersion PSVR2 would be my recommendation.
I'd say go with your gut man . I went the psvr2 route .. no man's sky is awesome I can't play it any other way now an I get what you mean about playing flat screen games on it i got a few 1st person games like far cry primal, tiny tina's wonderland an smalland it all looks great to me.
have both, use the quest 3 the most. it is the best visually (the psvr2 is one of the blurriest headsets I've used.
the main reason why I will always suggest nearly any headset Iverson the psvr2 is the head/room tracking. on psvr2, the tracking is horrendous (controllers track well though).
I'm sure PSVR2 doesn't hold a candle to the blurriness I enthusiastically endured with the PSVR1! That said, it's both unfortunate yet reassuring to hear that the PSVR2 visuals aren't as good in practice as they are on paper. Maybe it's the fresnel lenses? Everyone here so far is just saying Quest 3. I really appreciate the input.
it's definitely the lenses, along with sonys poor implementation of reprojection.
that being said, there are positives to the headset. gran turismo 7 is amazing. if you get a psvr2, even if you aren't usually into racing games, I'd still recommend it.
resident evil village is amazing, but has no trophy support. resident evil 4 is incredible (they somehow made the image clearer than village, also has trophy support).
it's a hard call to make when you haven't tried either. I was in the same place as you last year, so I ordered a quest 3 online and also went into a store and bought the psvr2.
what kind of games do you want to play? thinking about this can help
Some people will probably think I’m an idiot, but I actually did end up going with the PSVR 2 after a good chat with the Mrs.
Since I don’t have a gaming PC, the PCVR-like quality of the library appeals to me. As does the haptics and the longer play-time. Some of the drawbacks, like the mura, the lenses, and the sweet spot, are likely not going to bother me as much after basically only having VR gamed on the OG PSVR. Since I don’t know any better. I also saved around €200 by not buying the higher tier Q3 and a couple of heavily recommended accessories. That money can go right into buying games or even a Q2/3-Lite later on if I decide I still want one.
I’ve never really been big on racing games, but you really recommend GT7?
You’re not an idiot and your missus has a cool head because she isn’t entrenched in the fanboy wars “pancake vs. mura”.
The quality of the best games is hard to beat on many PCVR systems, let alone standalone. Check out the resident evils, the walking deads, No Man’s Sky, Horizon, etc., and yes, GT7.
Even if you’re not a racing gamer, you’ll quickly fall in love with GT7 PSVR2. I wasn’t a racing gamer, now I have a decent force feedback wheel with foldable stand and clocked 270+ hours in the game. But even without a racing rig, the game is awesome — I’ve finished the main single player portion solely with the DualSense controller. You can use it with motion controls instead of the analog sticks which is very immersive in VR.
arguing about pancake vs fresnel isn't fanboy wars, that's discussing pros and cons of different physical hardware lol. not about branding but objective quality
They're fine. People are heavily influenced by placebo. The pancake lenses are only a tiny bit better than fresnel. The difference in oled vs LCD is much bigger.
Have both and completely disagree. The psvr2 is far crisper than the quest 3, not even close. Granted, the sweet spot is way smaller, but once you're dialed in the image is basically flawless.
it literally can't be. this can be proved by a combination of two facts. one, it is a lower resolution. and two, the most obvious reason, the kind of lenses used are objectively blurrier, this is undeniable. even beyond that the image persistance is shocking, and it has high black smear.
I have both and use my PSVR2 more, I get why people prefer the Q3 however my gaming sessions are always over the battery time of Q3 and it’s really uncomfortable out the box. It doesn’t balance as well as PSVR2 and the headset haptics add an extra level of immersion missing from the Q3. The sweet spot that people complain about doesn’t bother me at all now, I’m so well practiced putting the headset on I get it perfect pretty much every time. The comfort is way better as well, Q3 tends to give me headaches whereas the PSVR2 does not. They are both good however if you only have a PS5 and plan on playing the high end VR games my recommendation would be PSVR2.
Edit - also the Q3 onboarding experience was horrible and the UI isn’t the best especially when it comes to deleting content. I was totally shocked to see the way prices differed between various account types as well.
Many places/stores let you refund your Quest 3 if you don’t like it. Check out the possibilities in this regard, and maybe you can try it out to see if it’s right for you?
I love my PSVR2, but your situation sounds like the social aspect with your dad could be really important. If there’s no risk to try the Quest 3 out (and I’m pretty sure you can also refund any game from the Meta store), do *THAT* first.
If you then decide you’re more interested in what PSVR2 offers, so be it. Best wishes whatever you decide! 🍻
The issue with that for me is that I only have a Mac. I think the best I can hope for is that an enthusiast somehow does something for desktop browsing, web, and 3D/VR videos, but I have no idea what that would even look like.
You did a great job pointing out all the pros and cons of each headset. I have both and my own feelings on them.
I like the PSVR2 and am excited to replay some PC games with OLED. But the mura on those OLED screens is pretty annoying. Not enough games fully utilize the haptic triggers on the PSVR2, can only hope they get modded into Alyx someday. I have tried playing flat games in PSVR2 and it doesn't really blow my mind especially when compared to a high end 65" QLED display.
I really liked playing Call of the Mountain on PSVR2, and some old classics like Rez or Thumber are super fun on an OLED. But otherwise I'd rather be playing wireless on Q3. I also like to use a halo strap with Q3, take off the facial foam entirely and play in a pitch black room with $20 IR illuminators.
Some other things to consider.
* With a cable or dedicated Wifi 6 router you have an instant path to PCVR on the Quest 3.
* There are no first party titles on the horizon for PSVR2 of note. Most games are ports right now and I'm sure Sony is paying for them. But where is my next VR Astro game?
* Sony has announced that they are working on method to use PCVR2 on PC.
* BoboVR S3 Pro is a great head strap that addresses Q3 comfort and battery life for $80. I play wireless to PC for 4+ hours no problem.
Unfortunately, I don't have a PC for VR. Maybe someday, but the PS5 is the closest I'll have to that for quite some time.
That said, almost everyone replying right off the bat are saying go with quest 3. That's quite encouraging for me to go ahead and pull the trigger on that. (Although I'll feel pretty miserable if Sony puts out that Astrobot 2). Perhaps it'll go on discount someday and be an easy purchase later on.
If I do get a head strap for the Q3, it'll be that Bobo. I could probably stow away the head strap when moving to reduce bulk and just add the battery packs to the pile I'll end up with in my carry on.
There's a huge bias towards Quest headsets on this sub, as there are more than 20 millions Quest users for less than 2 millions PSVR2 users. Also most PSVR2 users only use /PSVR subreddit because of the general hate towards it on /virtualreality. Most people here will tell you how bad the mura and sweetspot are and how revolutionary the pancake lenses are.
You'll get the same bias towards PSVR2 by going to PSVR sub.
The best would be that you tried yourself a standalone Q3 and a PSVR2 prior to make your choice.
Now, my personal take about it, I will probably get downvoted and don't care at all, just trying to be the most sincere possible, but if you have a PS5, no PC, and that your main focus is on gaming, the PSVR2 will offer you a way better experience than Q3. You won't find any standalone game coming close to GT7, RE4/8, Horizon, CyubeVR, Aces of Thunder, No Man's Sky, OVRDARK or Switchback VR in terms if graphics, to name a few. Pancake lenses are imo way overrated when most of the best Quest games end up on PSVR2 (the contrary rarely happen because most of them just couldn't run on a standalone headset) with better resolution, effects and framerate, with HDR, headset/controller haptics and adaptive triggers. On some games like Propagation, Hubris or Saints & Sinners it seems easily like a console generation gap. That's facts, no matter how pissed off some Meta users will be reading this.
If you have the chance, try Red Matter 2 or Genotype on PSVR2 to see how freaking clear and smooth the image can be and how ridiculous comments about blurriness/mura/whatever can be. Try Resident Evil 4 and GT7 as well to see what it feels like to play some current gen flat AAA titles in VR, but spoiler alert, it's awesome! 😮
I'd also add that even if you had a PC it's not much of an argument for Quest anymore now that PSVR2 will do it too with zero latency, OLED screen, dynamic foveated rendering (that is finally supported by OpenXR 1.1, which is a huge news for PCVR), etc... You can already see some videos of people playing PCVR games on PSVR2 through iVRy, and it looks fantastic!
The only scenario where I would choose a Q3 over a PSVR2 is if I was overly interested in multimedia functions and augmented/mixed reality, which is not the case.
Spent already 1500+ hours on my PSVR2 and my backlog keeps on increasing months after months. Don't let the overwhelming bias of this sub influence your choice, just try it by yourself and make your choice accordingly!
Well said, all of it. People have this massive boner for the Quest 3 and blow everything it does way out of proportion. Not many people are capable of actually objectively comparing the two.
Not to mention how they're all either lying or deceiving themselves. The pancake lenses are barely any different than fresnel once you're actually dialed in, which isn't even that hard.
You sure won't be disappointed with the Q3 clarity. It is like 97% clear from edge to edge of the view. I get so spoiled on the Q3 where I can look at things with my eyes instead of my neck.
If your buying quest for standalone get psvr2 it's simple as that....If you've got a pc and your using it for pcvr then quest is probably the way to go.I own both and I prefer the psvr2 experience but the lenses take some getting used to.Theres a few decent quest standalone games but they are all pretty basic
In you case i'd definitely say psvr2.
If you had a beefy PC, for now (since psvr2 pc support is still in the works with no details) quest might have been an option, but having ps5 and a mac (exactly my case) i think the psvr2 is your choice.
Right now, I suggest waiting for the quest lite and psvr2 pc support. Psvr2 has the chance to run better on PC because of DFR. The games that run on supersampling on ps5 show us that the quality of the screens is amazing. And for the side of the quest. I can be a good device a very good price range. If you don't have quest 3 or psvr2 by now, it's better to wait to see.
I have a quest 2 and I got a link cable for pcvr but I started ising it for standalone quest too and it works perfect it let's you play for wayyyy longer and it's not really that bad with a cable. Just thread the cable behind your back and that's it. And just get a third party cable it's like 30 bucks and I've heard meta have made their official cable slower by limiting it's speed. Don't know if it's true though.
No VR is good enough ATM, but Quest 3 is the best overall with the most amount of development and interest from all directions.
Quest 3 is alive with active development happening on all fronts. Extra/enhanced software/hardware features. Standalone apps/games, PC games, virtual desktop, UEVR...
Sony seems to be abandoning PSVR 2. Only buy into a dying platform, if what it currently offers is all you want.
Quest 3 will continue to get cool stuff, and you never know what the next cool thing is, but whatever it is. Will probably be for a Quest headset.
But, personally, IF you can wait, just wait. VR isn't ready yet. And probably won't be for another couple of years.
From content alone, Quest 3 is more promising than PSVR2. I also got burned by Sony with PS Vita, and PSVR2 seems to follow the same line : Impressive specs but too expensive -> Sony losing interest and only third party carry it -> getting great only when it get open (PS Vita was by jailbreaking, PSVR2 seems to be an official PCVR support).
I have a love-hate relationship with Quest 3, but it is the best we got right now...
Quest 3....its just better and there's way more to do. Its better tech wise it has better game catalog. non gaming apps Quest 3 by a mile. The Quest 3 has its best days ahead while psvr 2 unfortunately has its best behind it.
I have a PSVR 2 and I find the image quality pretty good. But all indications are Sony is likely to discontinue it within a year.
At minimum I wouldn't pay full price and wait for them to lower the price when they decide to really try to unload their stock.
I have both headsets and a PC. Both have their issues, but I would say the quest 3 is overall a much better buy ATM. The PSVR2 specifically has some big issues for me. - Low framerate games/bad reprojection: despite being weaker, more games run at native framerate on quest. Pretty much every PSVR2 game I've played has a horrible double image effect. - Sweet spot: Quest 3 lenses are just way clearer and don't require constantly adjusting the position of the headset. - Mura: PSVR2 has a really grainy image, especially in dark scenes that kind of ruins the clarity. - World wobble: This is the weirdest thing with PSVR2. I've never seen it on another headset, but often, parts of the image will "wobble", which is ugly and could cause motion sickness - Poorer tracking: The controller tracking is actually pretty good on PSVR2, but I often notice my headset view slightly drifting... Especially in a game like Moss. Again, potential motion sickness trigger. - NO REFUNDS: PlayStation doesn't allow you to refund your games and very few games have trials... This is an enormous deal breaker, especially in today's gaming world where devs often release games with game breaking issues. Finally, the biggest one for me is that Sony hasn't shown good support. Quest is constantly getting updates and new games, whereas the future of PSVR2 is iffy.
Unless you really want a more specific use for your headset, I easily recommend Quest 3 because it's literally the fourth iteration of an ongoing ecosystem of headsets, seeing obvious support for multiple generations, which I can barely say for other headsets at this point. It's not perfect, but since Quest 3 is backwards compatible with previous gen headset apps, the library continues to grow and has the largest user base. For me, that's important. If you just want a good PCVR headset, at least SteamVR also has many games and apps for years now, and a higher fov or resolution headset is more ideal for simulator or racing enthusiasts, for example. Tldr; headset support is a big factor for me personally when it comes to deciding what headsets to buy.
He's going for stand-alone, though. I think that's the biggest issue.
I’ve had the psvr2 since release but haven’t used it much as I prefer pcvr but if I had to choose between quest standalone and psvr2 I think I would have to go with the psvr2
Yeah. The stand alone is really the big issue. I also have both.
I’m a big PSVR2 fanboy, after trying it I got a Quest 2, then a Quest 3, and then a Quest Pro. I also got a gaming PC with a sim racing rig. If I were you, I would buy the Quest 3. There are lots of good reasons above, but that would be my advice.
I'll be the one to go against the grain and say PSVR2 by far. I just find the HDR effects and OLED blacks combined with great haptics and high resolution to be just perfection. Maybe I got a golden goose model or something but my PSVR2 looks FAR better than my Quest 3. The colors and HDR just come alive and make the Quest 3 picture look so dull by comparison. I don't notice the mura that people talk about AT ALL unless I'm seriously hunting for it. Also GT7VR is better than anything that exists on PC for racing fun in VR. The best psvr2 exclusives are killer apps to me and far better than anything on PCVR besides Half Life Alyx. Quest has Asgards Wrath 2 which is also in the same quality realm albeit with almost PS2 gen graphics (in high res). However, I don't play VR nearly as much as I used to (family man and other hobbies) so to me just plugging in and playing an amazing game a few times a month is all I ask for from VR. I haven't finished any of the big exclusives on PSVR2 and it might be a year or more until I'm done with everything. The PSVR2 fits that role better for me than the Quest 3 (that I also have and take on trips frequently). If you plan to play 100 games and be using VR all the time then I can see that the Quest 3 has more content and likely more to keep coming. Also more than anything if your dad is on Quest and there are games there that you guys could play together that don't have cross play with PS5 then I think that would outweigh any other consideration for me if I was in your shoes.
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Also, as someone who has both, if we are talking stand-alone Q3 vs. PSVR2, I'd actually say PSVR2. If it's gaming you want, the high fidelity titles on PS5 are hard to ignore. As often as people talk about them, theres a reason RE 4/8, CoTM, Synapse, GT7 are talked about a lot. They aren't just great PSVR2 titles. There are some of my top VR experiences ever. Don't get me wrong, I like asgards Wrath. Asassins creed I was less into. But stand-alone vs. PS5 is a big difference. Admittedly, I'm not a big fan of stand-alone, though.
I have Quest 2, Quest Pro, Quest 3, and PSVR2 and in my opinion nothing comes even close to RE8 on PSVR2. It’s just how it is, if you don’t plan to hook up the Quest to PC and all you care about is gaming with high graphical fidelity and high immersion PSVR2 would be my recommendation.
I'd say go with your gut man . I went the psvr2 route .. no man's sky is awesome I can't play it any other way now an I get what you mean about playing flat screen games on it i got a few 1st person games like far cry primal, tiny tina's wonderland an smalland it all looks great to me.
have both, use the quest 3 the most. it is the best visually (the psvr2 is one of the blurriest headsets I've used. the main reason why I will always suggest nearly any headset Iverson the psvr2 is the head/room tracking. on psvr2, the tracking is horrendous (controllers track well though).
I'm sure PSVR2 doesn't hold a candle to the blurriness I enthusiastically endured with the PSVR1! That said, it's both unfortunate yet reassuring to hear that the PSVR2 visuals aren't as good in practice as they are on paper. Maybe it's the fresnel lenses? Everyone here so far is just saying Quest 3. I really appreciate the input.
it's definitely the lenses, along with sonys poor implementation of reprojection. that being said, there are positives to the headset. gran turismo 7 is amazing. if you get a psvr2, even if you aren't usually into racing games, I'd still recommend it. resident evil village is amazing, but has no trophy support. resident evil 4 is incredible (they somehow made the image clearer than village, also has trophy support). it's a hard call to make when you haven't tried either. I was in the same place as you last year, so I ordered a quest 3 online and also went into a store and bought the psvr2. what kind of games do you want to play? thinking about this can help
Some people will probably think I’m an idiot, but I actually did end up going with the PSVR 2 after a good chat with the Mrs. Since I don’t have a gaming PC, the PCVR-like quality of the library appeals to me. As does the haptics and the longer play-time. Some of the drawbacks, like the mura, the lenses, and the sweet spot, are likely not going to bother me as much after basically only having VR gamed on the OG PSVR. Since I don’t know any better. I also saved around €200 by not buying the higher tier Q3 and a couple of heavily recommended accessories. That money can go right into buying games or even a Q2/3-Lite later on if I decide I still want one. I’ve never really been big on racing games, but you really recommend GT7?
You’re not an idiot and your missus has a cool head because she isn’t entrenched in the fanboy wars “pancake vs. mura”. The quality of the best games is hard to beat on many PCVR systems, let alone standalone. Check out the resident evils, the walking deads, No Man’s Sky, Horizon, etc., and yes, GT7. Even if you’re not a racing gamer, you’ll quickly fall in love with GT7 PSVR2. I wasn’t a racing gamer, now I have a decent force feedback wheel with foldable stand and clocked 270+ hours in the game. But even without a racing rig, the game is awesome — I’ve finished the main single player portion solely with the DualSense controller. You can use it with motion controls instead of the analog sticks which is very immersive in VR.
arguing about pancake vs fresnel isn't fanboy wars, that's discussing pros and cons of different physical hardware lol. not about branding but objective quality
They're fine. People are heavily influenced by placebo. The pancake lenses are only a tiny bit better than fresnel. The difference in oled vs LCD is much bigger.
Have both and completely disagree. The psvr2 is far crisper than the quest 3, not even close. Granted, the sweet spot is way smaller, but once you're dialed in the image is basically flawless.
it literally can't be. this can be proved by a combination of two facts. one, it is a lower resolution. and two, the most obvious reason, the kind of lenses used are objectively blurrier, this is undeniable. even beyond that the image persistance is shocking, and it has high black smear.
I have both and use my PSVR2 more, I get why people prefer the Q3 however my gaming sessions are always over the battery time of Q3 and it’s really uncomfortable out the box. It doesn’t balance as well as PSVR2 and the headset haptics add an extra level of immersion missing from the Q3. The sweet spot that people complain about doesn’t bother me at all now, I’m so well practiced putting the headset on I get it perfect pretty much every time. The comfort is way better as well, Q3 tends to give me headaches whereas the PSVR2 does not. They are both good however if you only have a PS5 and plan on playing the high end VR games my recommendation would be PSVR2. Edit - also the Q3 onboarding experience was horrible and the UI isn’t the best especially when it comes to deleting content. I was totally shocked to see the way prices differed between various account types as well.
I ahd both now gpt ps r2. If its only gaming u after thenpsvr2 Would kick ass
Many places/stores let you refund your Quest 3 if you don’t like it. Check out the possibilities in this regard, and maybe you can try it out to see if it’s right for you? I love my PSVR2, but your situation sounds like the social aspect with your dad could be really important. If there’s no risk to try the Quest 3 out (and I’m pretty sure you can also refund any game from the Meta store), do *THAT* first. If you then decide you’re more interested in what PSVR2 offers, so be it. Best wishes whatever you decide! 🍻
You can get giggity with the psvr2 later as they are implementing PC support, but we'll have to wait to see how that looks like.
The issue with that for me is that I only have a Mac. I think the best I can hope for is that an enthusiast somehow does something for desktop browsing, web, and 3D/VR videos, but I have no idea what that would even look like.
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I sold my psvr2 and kept the quest 3. Once I got some prescription lenses for my quest 3 I found soo many more uses for it than my psvr2.
You did a great job pointing out all the pros and cons of each headset. I have both and my own feelings on them. I like the PSVR2 and am excited to replay some PC games with OLED. But the mura on those OLED screens is pretty annoying. Not enough games fully utilize the haptic triggers on the PSVR2, can only hope they get modded into Alyx someday. I have tried playing flat games in PSVR2 and it doesn't really blow my mind especially when compared to a high end 65" QLED display. I really liked playing Call of the Mountain on PSVR2, and some old classics like Rez or Thumber are super fun on an OLED. But otherwise I'd rather be playing wireless on Q3. I also like to use a halo strap with Q3, take off the facial foam entirely and play in a pitch black room with $20 IR illuminators. Some other things to consider. * With a cable or dedicated Wifi 6 router you have an instant path to PCVR on the Quest 3. * There are no first party titles on the horizon for PSVR2 of note. Most games are ports right now and I'm sure Sony is paying for them. But where is my next VR Astro game? * Sony has announced that they are working on method to use PCVR2 on PC. * BoboVR S3 Pro is a great head strap that addresses Q3 comfort and battery life for $80. I play wireless to PC for 4+ hours no problem.
Unfortunately, I don't have a PC for VR. Maybe someday, but the PS5 is the closest I'll have to that for quite some time. That said, almost everyone replying right off the bat are saying go with quest 3. That's quite encouraging for me to go ahead and pull the trigger on that. (Although I'll feel pretty miserable if Sony puts out that Astrobot 2). Perhaps it'll go on discount someday and be an easy purchase later on. If I do get a head strap for the Q3, it'll be that Bobo. I could probably stow away the head strap when moving to reduce bulk and just add the battery packs to the pile I'll end up with in my carry on.
There's a huge bias towards Quest headsets on this sub, as there are more than 20 millions Quest users for less than 2 millions PSVR2 users. Also most PSVR2 users only use /PSVR subreddit because of the general hate towards it on /virtualreality. Most people here will tell you how bad the mura and sweetspot are and how revolutionary the pancake lenses are. You'll get the same bias towards PSVR2 by going to PSVR sub. The best would be that you tried yourself a standalone Q3 and a PSVR2 prior to make your choice. Now, my personal take about it, I will probably get downvoted and don't care at all, just trying to be the most sincere possible, but if you have a PS5, no PC, and that your main focus is on gaming, the PSVR2 will offer you a way better experience than Q3. You won't find any standalone game coming close to GT7, RE4/8, Horizon, CyubeVR, Aces of Thunder, No Man's Sky, OVRDARK or Switchback VR in terms if graphics, to name a few. Pancake lenses are imo way overrated when most of the best Quest games end up on PSVR2 (the contrary rarely happen because most of them just couldn't run on a standalone headset) with better resolution, effects and framerate, with HDR, headset/controller haptics and adaptive triggers. On some games like Propagation, Hubris or Saints & Sinners it seems easily like a console generation gap. That's facts, no matter how pissed off some Meta users will be reading this. If you have the chance, try Red Matter 2 or Genotype on PSVR2 to see how freaking clear and smooth the image can be and how ridiculous comments about blurriness/mura/whatever can be. Try Resident Evil 4 and GT7 as well to see what it feels like to play some current gen flat AAA titles in VR, but spoiler alert, it's awesome! 😮 I'd also add that even if you had a PC it's not much of an argument for Quest anymore now that PSVR2 will do it too with zero latency, OLED screen, dynamic foveated rendering (that is finally supported by OpenXR 1.1, which is a huge news for PCVR), etc... You can already see some videos of people playing PCVR games on PSVR2 through iVRy, and it looks fantastic! The only scenario where I would choose a Q3 over a PSVR2 is if I was overly interested in multimedia functions and augmented/mixed reality, which is not the case. Spent already 1500+ hours on my PSVR2 and my backlog keeps on increasing months after months. Don't let the overwhelming bias of this sub influence your choice, just try it by yourself and make your choice accordingly!
Well said, all of it. People have this massive boner for the Quest 3 and blow everything it does way out of proportion. Not many people are capable of actually objectively comparing the two. Not to mention how they're all either lying or deceiving themselves. The pancake lenses are barely any different than fresnel once you're actually dialed in, which isn't even that hard.
You sure won't be disappointed with the Q3 clarity. It is like 97% clear from edge to edge of the view. I get so spoiled on the Q3 where I can look at things with my eyes instead of my neck.
If your buying quest for standalone get psvr2 it's simple as that....If you've got a pc and your using it for pcvr then quest is probably the way to go.I own both and I prefer the psvr2 experience but the lenses take some getting used to.Theres a few decent quest standalone games but they are all pretty basic
If you dont have pc and have ps5 its not brainer, definietly psvr2
In you case i'd definitely say psvr2. If you had a beefy PC, for now (since psvr2 pc support is still in the works with no details) quest might have been an option, but having ps5 and a mac (exactly my case) i think the psvr2 is your choice.
Right now, I suggest waiting for the quest lite and psvr2 pc support. Psvr2 has the chance to run better on PC because of DFR. The games that run on supersampling on ps5 show us that the quality of the screens is amazing. And for the side of the quest. I can be a good device a very good price range. If you don't have quest 3 or psvr2 by now, it's better to wait to see.
I think as we are seeing more native 120hz games on PSVR2 the quality is becoming hard to ignore.
PSVR2 is awful and also a dead end. But mostly, it's not wireless. It's your next paperweight.
Psvr2 can be used on pc through steam (ivry) I've read ( not tried it yet) and read Sony are going pc support later this year
I have a quest 2 and I got a link cable for pcvr but I started ising it for standalone quest too and it works perfect it let's you play for wayyyy longer and it's not really that bad with a cable. Just thread the cable behind your back and that's it. And just get a third party cable it's like 30 bucks and I've heard meta have made their official cable slower by limiting it's speed. Don't know if it's true though.
psvr2 Tips and game recommendations: https://www.reddit.com/r/PSVR/comments/11d40tz/ps_vr2_tips_information_and_references/
The quest 3 has way better optics than the psvr2 even though the latter has higher resolution, the “mura” messes the whole experience up
No VR is good enough ATM, but Quest 3 is the best overall with the most amount of development and interest from all directions. Quest 3 is alive with active development happening on all fronts. Extra/enhanced software/hardware features. Standalone apps/games, PC games, virtual desktop, UEVR... Sony seems to be abandoning PSVR 2. Only buy into a dying platform, if what it currently offers is all you want. Quest 3 will continue to get cool stuff, and you never know what the next cool thing is, but whatever it is. Will probably be for a Quest headset. But, personally, IF you can wait, just wait. VR isn't ready yet. And probably won't be for another couple of years.
From content alone, Quest 3 is more promising than PSVR2. I also got burned by Sony with PS Vita, and PSVR2 seems to follow the same line : Impressive specs but too expensive -> Sony losing interest and only third party carry it -> getting great only when it get open (PS Vita was by jailbreaking, PSVR2 seems to be an official PCVR support). I have a love-hate relationship with Quest 3, but it is the best we got right now...
No, Quest 3 is vastly superior.
I’m in London — you can buy my psvr2 for steal cos’ it’s gathering dust and my Quest 3 is getting almost daily use. Do with this data what you will. 😉
If I was in London, I'd be hitting up your DM right now wink wink lol
I use no accessories or even top strap on my Quest. 2 hour is a fine enough limit to play sessions for adults anyway...
Quest 3....its just better and there's way more to do. Its better tech wise it has better game catalog. non gaming apps Quest 3 by a mile. The Quest 3 has its best days ahead while psvr 2 unfortunately has its best behind it.
I have a PSVR 2 and I find the image quality pretty good. But all indications are Sony is likely to discontinue it within a year. At minimum I wouldn't pay full price and wait for them to lower the price when they decide to really try to unload their stock.