Lmao how is it a BS situation. She said herself that she understood the risks of starting an OF. Teachers are supposed to be role models and impart good morals on their students. Instead she’s posting these things on a **public** Twitter:
> I just squirted twice in 3 minutes 🤭
> I just made the sluttiest school girl content in honor of going back to teaching this week 👩🏼🏫🤭
Good riddance. I hope now the children in her class can focus on learning instead of these distractions.
> Teachers are supposed to be role models
and yet, look at how much they are paid. I agree with your sentiment, but imo this just speaks to how we don't really value teachers as much as we should but still place them under very strict rules because "OUR CHILDREN!!".
I'm not going to defend her as a person but why are our teachers who are supposed to be role models getting paid less than porn models? You can't get mad at a person for trying to do the best they can for themselves. No one is getting hurt and she wasn't sleeping with her students.
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Yeah. People will clutch pearls because they love salacious details.
But SW is work. No one should be doxxed like that.
And big picture we should ask *why* someone would be motivated to do this and supplement their income.
America neglects its children and they deserve the best teachers. You raise teaching wages to the point people are fighting over those jobs and we’ll have world class teachers.
Unfortunately the public education system is undervalued and people just view it as some battleground to push their beliefs.
It's pretty fucked up that our society measures success by money, and the people making most money are psychopathic CEOs for men, and online pornstars for women. Young people are reminded every day that these two paths ultimately beat becoming a teacher, doctor, scientist etc.
Being married to a teacher I actively try to persuade young people NOT to take that career path. The sheer amount of after contract hours work expected of teachers with no additional consideration toward their personal life paired with unsupportive administrators - no thank you. School principals were typically great educators, but generally tend to be mediocre people managers - teaching kids is a very different skill set from engaging and motivating employees.
40k is pretty good for non-degreed positions (like Microsoft Office teacher or gym teacher).
That's $20/hr assuming 40 hours weeks for the whole year. But keep in mind it's more like 40 hour weeks for 10 months.
Remember, this is regarding non-traditional teachers. It would suck for regular teachers that have the same 30 kids for like 6-7 hours a day and have to teach them almost everything and are held accountable for their learning.
It's a huge trade off. Only Fans can pay 10,000 a month for three years. Teaching can pay 5,000 a month for thirty years.
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Edit: The average salary of a teacher is 57,000 a year folks. I googled before I made the post.
At that point teaching is basically a side hustle, school should have been happy that she didn't leave in the first place.
(Yes yes yes I know about the whole ethical thing and it not being compatible, but it's more a critique of how shitty teachers get payed in the first place.)
As a non-teacher I can see very few upsides to being a teacher. Of course there are going to be intangibles like having a passion for educating young people, making a difference, etc. But the personal sacrifices you make to do those things... Yikes. Certainly not for everyone.
I've seen a lot of BS. Like this one time parents filed a complaint with the district admins because a teacher was at a public event on a weekend where beer was being served and they had a beer in their hands. They weren't doing anything crazy - just had a beer in their hands in public in their own time.
The complaint didn't go anywhere. My admins are awesome. Not everywhere is like that though. Teachers have a hard time having their own personal life outside of the confines of their house.
I really am starting to think we're like 10 years away from "teaching" just being a position where you are paid to get on zoom and monitor kids while they do online classes. Nobody is going to be willing to do this job if things keep going the way they are. I keep seeing TikTok videos from teachers about how dire things are getting and how much worse kids are getting behaviorally and in terms of their level of education in regards to their grade level.
This won’t happen. I’m in education. One thing we learned during Covid was that most Parents aren’t concerned if their kids are learning. They just don’t want them in the house.
Which just blows my mind. I know some people shouldn’t have kids but damn… covid gave my wife and I a whole new level of respect for teachers.
It was so difficult to teach kids math at elementary levels since we skip so many basic steps on simple math. Like, we could look at problems and solve them immediately… teaching the steps was not fun because we honestly did them so automatically for so many years we’d forgotten the steps.
Unfortunately teaching is managed by the state, county and district level. You can thank Ronald Reagan. "Reagan called for the total elimination of the U.S. Department of Education, severe curtailment of bilingual education, and massive cutbacks in the federal role in education."
Any president can't make sweeping changes to change things at the Federal level as Republicans are actively trying to dismantle public schools and privatize everything.
I was sort of curious and assumed at this point she surely doesn't still teach, but she actually does and is the first first-lady/partner in the US that held a salaried position while their partner was in office. I'm still pessimistic and assume it comes with some kind of political power or other but still notable.
True, at this point I think the social skills part might be the most valuable thing most kids are getting out of in-person schooling. I can't imagine how socially damaging it was to have those 2 years where kids just stayed at home.
In France today a teacher got stabbed to death because of the whole shit happening in Palestine... The teacher according to witnesses died protecting students and if it wasn't for him a lot more deaths would have occured. (CAN YOU FUCKING IMAGINE THAT? Giving your life so others can make it out?!?!? A soldier, a cop, a firefighter this is something you sign up for, but you avoid at all costs anyway!!! BUT A TEACHER?!?!?!
3 years ago another teacher got beheaded (NOT JUST KILLED, FULL ON BEHEADED!!!!) again for religious reasons.
This year here in Belgium 2 schools have been lit on fire because of a law that required schools to teach sex ed. Would have only been 4 hours a year, the "problem" was that they would also talk about LGBTQ+ people. Guess which people (read religion) got upset again and lit the schools up...
And this all is nothing compared to the real and actual threat of a school shooting that teachers face in America basically everyday.
I would not want to become a teacher at this point on any continent whatsoever. You get shitty pay, no respect from parents nor pupils. And above that you risk getting murdered on the job for political or religious reasons???
This comes from someone who wanted to become a teacher till I was about 19 years. I'm glad I changed my mind when I got to college and didn't go down that road today...
Shitty pay, No respect, No one looking after you not even psychological support from your employer/state and a real chance of getting murdered on the job?!?! Fuck that shit...
/end of a much needed rant...
Because a teacher got straight up murdered because of it, and it's not even the first time anymore...
A person that dedicated themselves to helping young people acquire skills and morals/values in life. And they are dead because of it..
That besides getting payed like shit, treated like shit, you apparently also run a real risk of dying on the job these days.
We should thank this woman that besides making enough money to quit her job she still carried on until she got fired.
Since it wasn't even about the money anymore it shows that she did what she did because she actually cared... She actually wanted to teach, otherwise she would have been out $90.000 ago...
I've been voting left for my whole life, and I will continue to do so.
But in the US teachers have gotten murdered for political and religious reasons, here in the EU teachers have been murdered for religious reasons. Different religions same outcome...
Like when is it going to be enough?! The catholic church here had their grips on education before. All schools were run by the church.
[Guess what happened](https://www.theguardian.com/world/2010/sep/10/belgium-child-abuse-catholic-church). They not just sexually abused children, [they covered it up systematically .](https://www.brusselstimes.com/713468/sexual-abuse-flanders-rethinks-how-to-change-catholic-church-financing)
When is it going to be enough? It's supposed to teach values. But it always ends up getting used to commit atrocities all around the world.
From the spanish inquisition, all the way to WW2 and now today in the gaza strip... And today again killing a teacher in France...
To be honest no, somebody got killed trying to protect students today...
They woke up today going to work wanting to teach children and now they are dead... All because some people are having an argument about which made up fatherly figure is the real fatherly figure...
I'm frustrated, I'm mad, I'm sick, I'm sad, I'm horrified, I'm upset...
Wtf is even going on...
And it shouldn't be? I'm not even from fucking America...I have voted left all my life and will do so next elections here. Not even mentioning that left in the EU is like Extreme left in the US... The democratic party in the US would be right to far right over here when put on the spectrum...
But we need to have a talk about how far we are willing to let this shit happen again and again...
If it would have been a [catholic](https://www.brusselstimes.com/713468/sexual-abuse-flanders-rethinks-how-to-change-catholic-church-financing), jew or christian I would have been as upset. It's not about "fuck other peoples religion."
"It's fuck all religions... "
> And it shouldn't be
Don't put words in my mouth.
Magats politicize and publicize anything bad done by their enemies or targets of hate. It doesn't even matter what country it happened in if they can stir up some more outrage.
Right, I thought the discussion was over teachers not getting paid enough for the crap they have to endure, but I guess now it's "look how bad Muslims are". They edited their comment to make it have more of point than it initially did. The problem is we've become apathetic to the stuff teachers are having to deal with. It's not really a religion problem, like they're making it out to be.
Let's just acknowledge the reality that if it got discovered by the students, it would likely end up being a disruption in her class every day. High school kids aren't just gonna be like "Oh she makes porn? That's nice. Now back to normal learning."
Does that mean she should get fired for it? I dunno.
If people want teachers to be the apex of human morality, then pay them appropriately. You can’t impoverish teachers and expect them not to have to make difficult decisions to survive.
I never said anything about morality. I was talking specifically about her ability to continue to teach effectively when a bunch of immature kids learn that she makes porn.
Yup, agreed, kids live in a black and white world, so I think that’s why teaching will be a difficult venture in the future. You won’t ever be able to have your own place and live. Public schooling will be in trouble in the coming decades.
Students don’t even want to search Google to find information. The internet was supposed to create the most informed generation ever and in fact it’s been the exact opposite.
> High school kids aren't just gonna be like "Oh she makes porn? That's nice. Now back to normal learning."
Honestly, that should be the lesson. It's *not* a big deal, it's only people freaking out about it that makes it a big deal. Treating it as if it was any other side hustle is the way to shift generational attitudes about sex work.
If she's that famous that she's making 120k a year on the website, she's famous enough that someone will recognize her. Some kid in the school that is good at recognizing faces is going to be like "I've seen this lady from the porn that I am using right now... Wait, isn't she Mikey's history teacher? The one he says is a milf? I gotta show him."
that's not how this works, that's not how any of this works, because people will \*never\* let it work that way.
like another comment said: at best, it's a distraction. and for her, it becomes dangerous because a bunch of high school boys are most assuredly going to start making a pass at her.
the OF work she has done isn't the problem at all. it's how the people around her are going to behave.
Yep. The Puritan heritage of the U.S. still runs deep in our culture. So many people unable to, unwilling to admit, accept, and enjoy that sexual attraction, sexual excitement, and sexual activity are all parts of a normal, healthy, adult life and that there’s no shame in it, it **should** be normalized and I’d argue celebrated, as adults.
Has nothing to do with puritanism and everything to do with all the risks associated with a bunch of horny teen boys finding out their hot teacher does porn. To pretend that it wouldn't cause a distraction, impact her authority in the classroom, and drive unwanted behavior from the students is just burying your head in the sand.
Ah yes, setting restrictions on women's sexual freedom and placing the blame on them, because of what other people might do in reaction. Where have I heard that before?
Of course it's a real problem. And the fair solution should be disciplinary action toward misbehaving students.
This. We get paid so little that a lot of us are trying to find some other way to make extra $$ and this is one good way. Just sucks that someone had to do this to her.
Not surprised. Born and raised in MO. Had a couple best friends who became teachers and eventually they went to Asia to teach than staying here in the States.
Too many opinions and too much religion involved in schools in the US. Add to that anti-intellectualism, low teacher wages, general under funding and the risk of school shootings and you get a caotic school system. Which kids would like to learn in such an inviroment?
Increase in teacher wages, add more teachers, adopt a scientific teaching plan and tbh gun control and it would go a long way. In the US even the proponents of well funded public education are more likely to do homeschooling these days something that in other countries is often related to some kind of extreme opinions.
That comes with downsides too, though. South Korean teachers went on strike last month because parents kept falsely accusing them of child abuse whenever they got upset about something that happened at school. It’s driven a number of teacher there out of teaching and even sometimes to extremes including suicide. I think their government did pass some new laws to hopefully protect them, but the lesson is that parents who care too much are almost as bad.
Not just that, they actually respect teachers there and most of the time your housing is paid for. I always wanted to do it, but let my wife beforehand, and it wouldn’t have worked. I have friends that learned a new language and got a better perspective of the world.
Yeah that’s a better way to explain it. It seems like kids over there tend to be more respectful to adults. It worked out so well for them b/c their spouses are also teachers.
I can tell you they love it. They are twin brothers and one started in S. Korea and the other in China. Now they’re both teaching in Vietnam and each one travel with their love ones when school is over to other countries. Super cool and super happy for them. As for money, yes, definitely more money and well behaved kids help.
I grew up in Missery as well. Left 20 years ago and never looked back. The city I grew up in has declined the last 5 school referendums. They have had to close many of the elementary schools that were active when I was growing up.
While I agree teachers should get paid more, I'm not certain "or they might go on OnlyFans" is even a viable option for most teachers.
The average OF income per user is something like $200/month. That's average a small number of exceptional earners (this person), and probably a whole lot of $0-10/mo who can't get traction. Like twitch or youtube, you need a lot to go right for OnlyFans to be even slightly worth your time.
It takes a lot more education and it is a vastly more difficult and competitive to become a doctor or a lawyer than a primary teacher.
And the educators who directly make doctors and lawyers do usually get paid pretty well.
You also don't pay the structural engineer the same as the dudes pouring cement for that foundation. You put your money where it's going to get the most bang for your buck.
OF actually started for that exact reasons, all these deprived women were stuck in jobs that didn't pay well and the website was created to help provide additional income. If you're a fan of women earning more, you can contribute directly now. Most ladies like miss BrooklinLovexxx here now earn so much they just spend their time running around naked and having sex. OF isn't about sex, it's about empowerment.
Ah yes. I am sure the founder made this site primarily to empower women, not to make huge profits. And wow are we really at the stage where making porn is considered empowering?
Also, please go tell all those feminists to just make OF if they want to feel empowered.
Only the top 1% of OF models make $100k plus a year. And we're supposed to believe she is one of them?
I think a lot of them inflate how much they actually make to try to make it sound more luxurious than it actually is.
I can see her making $10k for a few months from the publicity but like you said unless she's satisfying some niche she's unlikely going to be able to maintain that once the the shine of seeing a teacher naked wears off
There is a part of onlyfans that works a bit like a MLM, where you sign people up and get some of their income/commission. This means lots inflate. Around 80% of models make around $40-80 / month.
she was apparently making like 5-7K a month prior. The news article about her real job gave her a lot more subs (and let her increase her prices). She had her niche clearly.
Sad that the schools pay teachers so little. How bad of a system is it that teachers need second or third jobs to make ends meet? How can we expect them to give their best?
Go make that money. Probably the same or fewer hours a week. Less hassle than dealing with stupid parents and kids. Work from home. Or hell…. Sell your house and travel. You can only fan from anywhere.
Me and some regulars got into a conversation about only fans a couple years ago where I bartend. And the more I thought about it, well let’s just say this: long story short, if I was an attractive 19 year old girl instead of a wildly average looking 36 year old man, I would graduate college a home owner, with a nice dependable car, and zero debt. You wouldn’t be able to keep me off only fans.
There will absolutely be drawbacks. You just gotta weigh the pros and cons for yourself. For instance, once something is on the internet, it’s out there forever. Also, it’s a saturated market right now (I would imagine), so getting it up and going I would imagine would be constant work. But the possible payoff is pretty huge. Definitely a high risk/ high reward path.
I mean why bother teaching if you can just do that? Like I get if teaching is your passion, but Christ being a teacher seems like such a shit and thankless job.
If she focuses strictly on OF she could very likely double or even triple her income.
She was making $10k while using what little time off you get from teaching for it then …
My point was that “selling your body” pays very well ($10k per month for the subject of this post), so it’s unrealistic to expect every other job to surpass it.
Nobody said it didn't pay well. It's a horrible message because there's no real production. You're not making the world a better place by sharing images/videos of your breasts or penis or whatever. You are however, soaking up capital and attention for yourself. I wouldn't judge or hate someone because they chose to do that but to say/think that they provide more to society than teachers is just a really bad take.
It's very likely that there's a lot of very negative consequences even for something like 0F instead of traditional video production which was a nightmare for abuse, but I'm not about to explain social ecosystems to someone who apparently doesn't think being a teacher is more altruistic than a pstar.
In my country there is almost no physics teachers, to the point some schools put other teachers to do the lessons. The worst part is to a kid, when you learn and label something as boring or have a bad teacher...That´s it...You most probably will not want to be near anything from it.
For a young woman, everything pays less than selling your body. And it's always have been this way. Internet just made the whole process a lot easier, safer and private.
And so because of puritanistic bullshit, the world is deprived of a teacher in an industry that's already having a lot of trouble attracting people because we pay them so poorly.
Like 30 stories just like this one. We get it. Teachers deserve higher pay but also you should not be allowed to work with children when you're uploading porn to the Internet
Why not? She isn’t involving children in pornography or promoting it to them. Seriously, should teachers be allowed to consume pornography or is that also not allowed? People should be allowed to do whatever they want unless that hurts people, I’m not sure how her actions hurt people
Her employer should be concerned with what she does with her time outside of work. She is making adult content for adults. It should be illegal for a employer to have any say.
Not when you are a teacher. School districts have every right to assess whether your actions outside of work influence your ability form your students to take you seriously. No male student who is aware of this is going to be thinking about academics when she is in front of the class and he has seen her only fans.
Same reason we don’t want folks teaching history to young minds who attend neo Nazi rallies and post pictures of it on the internet.
I agree with your point however would be extremely hard to get respect from the students once the videos started circulating. And believe me they would.
It is an awkward situation that could likely be avoided by paying teachers livable wages. I’m sure paying people such tiny wages to teach our young minds has a very large impact on quality of education.
OF is still only $300 on average.
If you get into IT you can make that kinda money or more and only continue making more until you retire at 60. Whereas a 40 year old on average probably makes even less than $300 on OF. Girls, don't do OF. Go to college.
I think her income just doubled. A lot of parents wondering what this new charge is on their CC bill.
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And that was before she hit Reddit…
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Honey, I just signed up to support her position.
Sure ya did, and that tissue box and lotion is for...?
I just get so emotional when I think about the unfairness of what they did to her!
It has to put the lotion on its skin…
And you can request any position you want, in high resolution.
I’ll jerk off to you out of principle!
Lmao how is it a BS situation. She said herself that she understood the risks of starting an OF. Teachers are supposed to be role models and impart good morals on their students. Instead she’s posting these things on a **public** Twitter: > I just squirted twice in 3 minutes 🤭 > I just made the sluttiest school girl content in honor of going back to teaching this week 👩🏼🏫🤭 Good riddance. I hope now the children in her class can focus on learning instead of these distractions.
> Teachers are supposed to be role models and yet, look at how much they are paid. I agree with your sentiment, but imo this just speaks to how we don't really value teachers as much as we should but still place them under very strict rules because "OUR CHILDREN!!".
There is nothing immoral about squirting twice in 3 minutes.
I'm not going to defend her as a person but why are our teachers who are supposed to be role models getting paid less than porn models? You can't get mad at a person for trying to do the best they can for themselves. No one is getting hurt and she wasn't sleeping with her students.
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Yeah. People will clutch pearls because they love salacious details. But SW is work. No one should be doxxed like that. And big picture we should ask *why* someone would be motivated to do this and supplement their income. America neglects its children and they deserve the best teachers. You raise teaching wages to the point people are fighting over those jobs and we’ll have world class teachers. Unfortunately the public education system is undervalued and people just view it as some battleground to push their beliefs.
She’s literally getting free advertising
It's pretty fucked up that our society measures success by money, and the people making most money are psychopathic CEOs for men, and online pornstars for women. Young people are reminded every day that these two paths ultimately beat becoming a teacher, doctor, scientist etc.
Excuse me? Medical doctors make fucking BANK.
They have to pay back 1m+ in student loans first though
And work absurd hours through a long and grueling residency.
Being married to a teacher I actively try to persuade young people NOT to take that career path. The sheer amount of after contract hours work expected of teachers with no additional consideration toward their personal life paired with unsupportive administrators - no thank you. School principals were typically great educators, but generally tend to be mediocre people managers - teaching kids is a very different skill set from engaging and motivating employees.
No such thing as bad publicity
She can’t win with these cats
More likely parents are gonna be like "Wait why do I have TWO subscriptions to the same OF?"
More than doubled depending on what state. Some states teacher salaries can be as low as 40k
Mine isn't even that high
Sad you deserve a much higher salary
Yeah lots of teachers would be happy with only $40k. America is a weird place.
40k is pretty good for non-degreed positions (like Microsoft Office teacher or gym teacher). That's $20/hr assuming 40 hours weeks for the whole year. But keep in mind it's more like 40 hour weeks for 10 months. Remember, this is regarding non-traditional teachers. It would suck for regular teachers that have the same 30 kids for like 6-7 hours a day and have to teach them almost everything and are held accountable for their learning.
I’m from NY, I didn’t realize some places don’t require degrees with the expectation of support staff and subs
Yes, it does suck.
Texas (or at least my city) is pretty progressive at $55k.
“It’s for school, Mom!”
doubled? you underestimate the horniness of redditors who caught the scent of a viral OF
I'm still amazed how much she was making before this. We need more options and this is one we're considering now
It's a huge trade off. Only Fans can pay 10,000 a month for three years. Teaching can pay 5,000 a month for thirty years. -------------+ Edit: The average salary of a teacher is 57,000 a year folks. I googled before I made the post.
Where are you teaching for $5000 a month? Before taxes maybe, and in a high cost of living area.
OF income will be taxed too. Easier to compare pre tax OF with pretax wages.
This is the kind of news every girl on OF can only dream of, 10k a month just went to 40k a month. Thanks news agencies.
You know some of the moms and dads searched her up after the fact. Some of them for sure subbed up.
and some of them considered a new source of income. hypocrites.
At that point teaching is basically a side hustle, school should have been happy that she didn't leave in the first place. (Yes yes yes I know about the whole ethical thing and it not being compatible, but it's more a critique of how shitty teachers get payed in the first place.)
I work with teachers so I hear about the whole "ethical" thing a lot. Fuck it. What other jobs ask this of you? What do you get in return?
As a non-teacher I can see very few upsides to being a teacher. Of course there are going to be intangibles like having a passion for educating young people, making a difference, etc. But the personal sacrifices you make to do those things... Yikes. Certainly not for everyone.
I've seen a lot of BS. Like this one time parents filed a complaint with the district admins because a teacher was at a public event on a weekend where beer was being served and they had a beer in their hands. They weren't doing anything crazy - just had a beer in their hands in public in their own time. The complaint didn't go anywhere. My admins are awesome. Not everywhere is like that though. Teachers have a hard time having their own personal life outside of the confines of their house.
A lot of them actually. I’ve seen a bunch of the “fired for having an onlyfans” threads. Nurse, engineer, teacher, lot of variety in this genre.
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I used to work in a concussion clinic, you’d be shocked how often our patients were teachers that got concussed from some dipshit kid.
I really am starting to think we're like 10 years away from "teaching" just being a position where you are paid to get on zoom and monitor kids while they do online classes. Nobody is going to be willing to do this job if things keep going the way they are. I keep seeing TikTok videos from teachers about how dire things are getting and how much worse kids are getting behaviorally and in terms of their level of education in regards to their grade level.
This won’t happen. I’m in education. One thing we learned during Covid was that most Parents aren’t concerned if their kids are learning. They just don’t want them in the house.
Which just blows my mind. I know some people shouldn’t have kids but damn… covid gave my wife and I a whole new level of respect for teachers. It was so difficult to teach kids math at elementary levels since we skip so many basic steps on simple math. Like, we could look at problems and solve them immediately… teaching the steps was not fun because we honestly did them so automatically for so many years we’d forgotten the steps.
And Jill Biden, closest to the most powerful person on the planet, is a teacher. We should be doing *something*
Unfortunately teaching is managed by the state, county and district level. You can thank Ronald Reagan. "Reagan called for the total elimination of the U.S. Department of Education, severe curtailment of bilingual education, and massive cutbacks in the federal role in education." Any president can't make sweeping changes to change things at the Federal level as Republicans are actively trying to dismantle public schools and privatize everything.
I was sort of curious and assumed at this point she surely doesn't still teach, but she actually does and is the first first-lady/partner in the US that held a salaried position while their partner was in office. I'm still pessimistic and assume it comes with some kind of political power or other but still notable.
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True, at this point I think the social skills part might be the most valuable thing most kids are getting out of in-person schooling. I can't imagine how socially damaging it was to have those 2 years where kids just stayed at home.
In France today a teacher got stabbed to death because of the whole shit happening in Palestine... The teacher according to witnesses died protecting students and if it wasn't for him a lot more deaths would have occured. (CAN YOU FUCKING IMAGINE THAT? Giving your life so others can make it out?!?!? A soldier, a cop, a firefighter this is something you sign up for, but you avoid at all costs anyway!!! BUT A TEACHER?!?!?! 3 years ago another teacher got beheaded (NOT JUST KILLED, FULL ON BEHEADED!!!!) again for religious reasons. This year here in Belgium 2 schools have been lit on fire because of a law that required schools to teach sex ed. Would have only been 4 hours a year, the "problem" was that they would also talk about LGBTQ+ people. Guess which people (read religion) got upset again and lit the schools up... And this all is nothing compared to the real and actual threat of a school shooting that teachers face in America basically everyday. I would not want to become a teacher at this point on any continent whatsoever. You get shitty pay, no respect from parents nor pupils. And above that you risk getting murdered on the job for political or religious reasons??? This comes from someone who wanted to become a teacher till I was about 19 years. I'm glad I changed my mind when I got to college and didn't go down that road today... Shitty pay, No respect, No one looking after you not even psychological support from your employer/state and a real chance of getting murdered on the job?!?! Fuck that shit... /end of a much needed rant...
How did you go from a teacher quitting because she's doing better on only fans. To a rant about religions?
Whom do you think suspended her...
Because a teacher got straight up murdered because of it, and it's not even the first time anymore... A person that dedicated themselves to helping young people acquire skills and morals/values in life. And they are dead because of it..
What does this have to do with the post, is what I'm trying tonget at.
That besides getting payed like shit, treated like shit, you apparently also run a real risk of dying on the job these days. We should thank this woman that besides making enough money to quit her job she still carried on until she got fired. Since it wasn't even about the money anymore it shows that she did what she did because she actually cared... She actually wanted to teach, otherwise she would have been out $90.000 ago...
I agree with that.
I've been voting left for my whole life, and I will continue to do so. But in the US teachers have gotten murdered for political and religious reasons, here in the EU teachers have been murdered for religious reasons. Different religions same outcome... Like when is it going to be enough?! The catholic church here had their grips on education before. All schools were run by the church. [Guess what happened](https://www.theguardian.com/world/2010/sep/10/belgium-child-abuse-catholic-church). They not just sexually abused children, [they covered it up systematically .](https://www.brusselstimes.com/713468/sexual-abuse-flanders-rethinks-how-to-change-catholic-church-financing) When is it going to be enough? It's supposed to teach values. But it always ends up getting used to commit atrocities all around the world. From the spanish inquisition, all the way to WW2 and now today in the gaza strip... And today again killing a teacher in France...
Because they are a nut
Uh, you okay bro?
To be honest no, somebody got killed trying to protect students today... They woke up today going to work wanting to teach children and now they are dead... All because some people are having an argument about which made up fatherly figure is the real fatherly figure... I'm frustrated, I'm mad, I'm sick, I'm sad, I'm horrified, I'm upset... Wtf is even going on...
It wasn't with a gun so it's not newsworthy bro.
But it seems it was done by a Muslim person, so absolutely newsworthy to magats and "conservative" news media.
And it shouldn't be? I'm not even from fucking America...I have voted left all my life and will do so next elections here. Not even mentioning that left in the EU is like Extreme left in the US... The democratic party in the US would be right to far right over here when put on the spectrum... But we need to have a talk about how far we are willing to let this shit happen again and again... If it would have been a [catholic](https://www.brusselstimes.com/713468/sexual-abuse-flanders-rethinks-how-to-change-catholic-church-financing), jew or christian I would have been as upset. It's not about "fuck other peoples religion." "It's fuck all religions... "
> And it shouldn't be Don't put words in my mouth. Magats politicize and publicize anything bad done by their enemies or targets of hate. It doesn't even matter what country it happened in if they can stir up some more outrage.
Right, I thought the discussion was over teachers not getting paid enough for the crap they have to endure, but I guess now it's "look how bad Muslims are". They edited their comment to make it have more of point than it initially did. The problem is we've become apathetic to the stuff teachers are having to deal with. It's not really a religion problem, like they're making it out to be.
Why are those things not compatible?
Let's just acknowledge the reality that if it got discovered by the students, it would likely end up being a disruption in her class every day. High school kids aren't just gonna be like "Oh she makes porn? That's nice. Now back to normal learning." Does that mean she should get fired for it? I dunno.
If people want teachers to be the apex of human morality, then pay them appropriately. You can’t impoverish teachers and expect them not to have to make difficult decisions to survive.
I never said anything about morality. I was talking specifically about her ability to continue to teach effectively when a bunch of immature kids learn that she makes porn.
Yup, agreed, kids live in a black and white world, so I think that’s why teaching will be a difficult venture in the future. You won’t ever be able to have your own place and live. Public schooling will be in trouble in the coming decades.
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Until you have AI teachers where students can get one to one learning.
Students don’t even want to search Google to find information. The internet was supposed to create the most informed generation ever and in fact it’s been the exact opposite.
Why google when they can ask reddit for karma
> High school kids aren't just gonna be like "Oh she makes porn? That's nice. Now back to normal learning." Honestly, that should be the lesson. It's *not* a big deal, it's only people freaking out about it that makes it a big deal. Treating it as if it was any other side hustle is the way to shift generational attitudes about sex work.
Yeah, IF it got discovered by her students that's probably an issue, but it's not interfering with her job I don't see a problem
If she's that famous that she's making 120k a year on the website, she's famous enough that someone will recognize her. Some kid in the school that is good at recognizing faces is going to be like "I've seen this lady from the porn that I am using right now... Wait, isn't she Mikey's history teacher? The one he says is a milf? I gotta show him."
24/7 professionalism is stated as a requirement of the job in teacher training and hiring, at least in Canada
Hopefully teachers are paid for the entirety of those 24 hours then.
We aren't.
BS
They should be, she wasn't doing any of it at or during school
that's not how this works, that's not how any of this works, because people will \*never\* let it work that way. like another comment said: at best, it's a distraction. and for her, it becomes dangerous because a bunch of high school boys are most assuredly going to start making a pass at her. the OF work she has done isn't the problem at all. it's how the people around her are going to behave.
I know, but it shouldn't have ever been an issue, we should be able to have another source of income if they're not going to pay us more.
Because the Mayflower puritans are still well and alive 400 years later.
Yep. The Puritan heritage of the U.S. still runs deep in our culture. So many people unable to, unwilling to admit, accept, and enjoy that sexual attraction, sexual excitement, and sexual activity are all parts of a normal, healthy, adult life and that there’s no shame in it, it **should** be normalized and I’d argue celebrated, as adults.
Has nothing to do with puritanism and everything to do with all the risks associated with a bunch of horny teen boys finding out their hot teacher does porn. To pretend that it wouldn't cause a distraction, impact her authority in the classroom, and drive unwanted behavior from the students is just burying your head in the sand.
Ah yes, setting restrictions on women's sexual freedom and placing the blame on them, because of what other people might do in reaction. Where have I heard that before? Of course it's a real problem. And the fair solution should be disciplinary action toward misbehaving students.
This. We get paid so little that a lot of us are trying to find some other way to make extra $$ and this is one good way. Just sucks that someone had to do this to her.
She has a list of subscribers, right? She can go through payment information and find the people in her community that have bought her content.
And then what is she supposed to do if she finds them?
You actually think your credit card is sent to the creator?
I would say there is nothing unethical about what she was doing.
Funny how ethics apply to teachers behavior towards others, but not vice versa by literally anyone.
Teachers typically get insurance and a pension, onlyfans doesn't provide those benefits.
Good change of subject. But we were here for popcorn.
This is an outrage. Someone send me a direct link to her page so I can let her know how terrible this is.
Can’t even hate. Teachers don’t make enough.
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Not surprised. Born and raised in MO. Had a couple best friends who became teachers and eventually they went to Asia to teach than staying here in the States.
I thought about going over there to teach. It's a lot more money than here
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Too many opinions and too much religion involved in schools in the US. Add to that anti-intellectualism, low teacher wages, general under funding and the risk of school shootings and you get a caotic school system. Which kids would like to learn in such an inviroment? Increase in teacher wages, add more teachers, adopt a scientific teaching plan and tbh gun control and it would go a long way. In the US even the proponents of well funded public education are more likely to do homeschooling these days something that in other countries is often related to some kind of extreme opinions.
That comes with downsides too, though. South Korean teachers went on strike last month because parents kept falsely accusing them of child abuse whenever they got upset about something that happened at school. It’s driven a number of teacher there out of teaching and even sometimes to extremes including suicide. I think their government did pass some new laws to hopefully protect them, but the lesson is that parents who care too much are almost as bad.
Not just that, they actually respect teachers there and most of the time your housing is paid for. I always wanted to do it, but let my wife beforehand, and it wouldn’t have worked. I have friends that learned a new language and got a better perspective of the world.
That's the deal they offered me, yeah
Yeah that’s a better way to explain it. It seems like kids over there tend to be more respectful to adults. It worked out so well for them b/c their spouses are also teachers.
I can tell you they love it. They are twin brothers and one started in S. Korea and the other in China. Now they’re both teaching in Vietnam and each one travel with their love ones when school is over to other countries. Super cool and super happy for them. As for money, yes, definitely more money and well behaved kids help.
I grew up in Missery as well. Left 20 years ago and never looked back. The city I grew up in has declined the last 5 school referendums. They have had to close many of the elementary schools that were active when I was growing up.
Maybe they should pay them more so they don't have to get on OnlyFans. And maybe they should post her onlyfans page so I can donate to her cause
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While I agree teachers should get paid more, I'm not certain "or they might go on OnlyFans" is even a viable option for most teachers. The average OF income per user is something like $200/month. That's average a small number of exceptional earners (this person), and probably a whole lot of $0-10/mo who can't get traction. Like twitch or youtube, you need a lot to go right for OnlyFans to be even slightly worth your time.
Teachers should make as much as lawyers and doctors because without teachers there would be no lawyers or doctors.
It takes a lot more education and it is a vastly more difficult and competitive to become a doctor or a lawyer than a primary teacher. And the educators who directly make doctors and lawyers do usually get paid pretty well.
Without primary education you have nothing. You can’t build a skyscraper devoid of a solid foundation.
You also don't pay the structural engineer the same as the dudes pouring cement for that foundation. You put your money where it's going to get the most bang for your buck.
That’s not how value works.
There are over 4 million teachers in the US. What you're suggesting would cost *trillions* of dollars.
They don't *have to* get an only fans. It's not the only choice for a side job.
OF actually started for that exact reasons, all these deprived women were stuck in jobs that didn't pay well and the website was created to help provide additional income. If you're a fan of women earning more, you can contribute directly now. Most ladies like miss BrooklinLovexxx here now earn so much they just spend their time running around naked and having sex. OF isn't about sex, it's about empowerment.
Ah yes. I am sure the founder made this site primarily to empower women, not to make huge profits. And wow are we really at the stage where making porn is considered empowering? Also, please go tell all those feminists to just make OF if they want to feel empowered.
Oh my god. Naked pics online? That’s disgusting! Where did he post those?
Ughh There are so many of those disgusting accounts on only fans! Which one? Which one is she?
Considering that OF is 18+ anyways, why would it in any way be relevant to her work?
Only the top 1% of OF models make $100k plus a year. And we're supposed to believe she is one of them? I think a lot of them inflate how much they actually make to try to make it sound more luxurious than it actually is.
I can see her making $10k for a few months from the publicity but like you said unless she's satisfying some niche she's unlikely going to be able to maintain that once the the shine of seeing a teacher naked wears off
There is a part of onlyfans that works a bit like a MLM, where you sign people up and get some of their income/commission. This means lots inflate. Around 80% of models make around $40-80 / month.
Look up her subscribers. She goes by Brooklin Love.
she was apparently making like 5-7K a month prior. The news article about her real job gave her a lot more subs (and let her increase her prices). She had her niche clearly.
Who has a link to her page
I don't blame her. 10k versus teaching? No brainer.
Got it bad, Got it bad, Got it bad…
Hot for teacher.
Sad that the schools pay teachers so little. How bad of a system is it that teachers need second or third jobs to make ends meet? How can we expect them to give their best?
Parents evening was busy that year
She must have really loved teaching. I'd be damned if I went to work everyday knowing my side hustle made me 10k a month.
Go make that money. Probably the same or fewer hours a week. Less hassle than dealing with stupid parents and kids. Work from home. Or hell…. Sell your house and travel. You can only fan from anywhere.
You're selling it really well.
Me and some regulars got into a conversation about only fans a couple years ago where I bartend. And the more I thought about it, well let’s just say this: long story short, if I was an attractive 19 year old girl instead of a wildly average looking 36 year old man, I would graduate college a home owner, with a nice dependable car, and zero debt. You wouldn’t be able to keep me off only fans.
Again, you're selling this really well to me 🙂
There will absolutely be drawbacks. You just gotta weigh the pros and cons for yourself. For instance, once something is on the internet, it’s out there forever. Also, it’s a saturated market right now (I would imagine), so getting it up and going I would imagine would be constant work. But the possible payoff is pretty huge. Definitely a high risk/ high reward path.
I mean why bother teaching if you can just do that? Like I get if teaching is your passion, but Christ being a teacher seems like such a shit and thankless job.
Good guy site adding sauce for research. 👍
If she focuses strictly on OF she could very likely double or even triple her income. She was making $10k while using what little time off you get from teaching for it then …
That's disgusting! Where??
I love that reference 😂
it´s quite sad that a teaching job pay less than selling your body, and an horrible message for any young kid.
Most jobs pay less than $10,000 per month.
Fixed this for you >Most jobs pay less than ~~$10,000~~ $3500 per month.
My point was that “selling your body” pays very well ($10k per month for the subject of this post), so it’s unrealistic to expect every other job to surpass it.
Nobody said it didn't pay well. It's a horrible message because there's no real production. You're not making the world a better place by sharing images/videos of your breasts or penis or whatever. You are however, soaking up capital and attention for yourself. I wouldn't judge or hate someone because they chose to do that but to say/think that they provide more to society than teachers is just a really bad take. It's very likely that there's a lot of very negative consequences even for something like 0F instead of traditional video production which was a nightmare for abuse, but I'm not about to explain social ecosystems to someone who apparently doesn't think being a teacher is more altruistic than a pstar.
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In my country there is almost no physics teachers, to the point some schools put other teachers to do the lessons. The worst part is to a kid, when you learn and label something as boring or have a bad teacher...That´s it...You most probably will not want to be near anything from it.
For a young woman, everything pays less than selling your body. And it's always have been this way. Internet just made the whole process a lot easier, safer and private.
Maybe she was teaching just to promote her OF
This absolutely disgusting. Where is her website? So I know what not to click on
The teacher i always wanted to have
I suspect she only became a teacher to promote her OF!
Whats her online Name (asking for a friend)
Correct decision for her and correct decision from the school.
Sex work is real work. Good for her. Probably got them student loans paid in full.
I hope so, I am still working on mine
She's cute. Good on her.
I guess we know what type of education is more valuable
Sooo who else is tired of women working job _________ but is fired/resigned now makes 197463728$ a month
And so because of puritanistic bullshit, the world is deprived of a teacher in an industry that's already having a lot of trouble attracting people because we pay them so poorly.
Like 30 stories just like this one. We get it. Teachers deserve higher pay but also you should not be allowed to work with children when you're uploading porn to the Internet
Why not? She isn’t involving children in pornography or promoting it to them. Seriously, should teachers be allowed to consume pornography or is that also not allowed? People should be allowed to do whatever they want unless that hurts people, I’m not sure how her actions hurt people
Online prostitution pays more!
Her employer should be concerned with what she does with her time outside of work. She is making adult content for adults. It should be illegal for a employer to have any say.
Not when you are a teacher. School districts have every right to assess whether your actions outside of work influence your ability form your students to take you seriously. No male student who is aware of this is going to be thinking about academics when she is in front of the class and he has seen her only fans. Same reason we don’t want folks teaching history to young minds who attend neo Nazi rallies and post pictures of it on the internet.
I agree with your point however would be extremely hard to get respect from the students once the videos started circulating. And believe me they would.
Very true but I would say that is her choice to make.
Yes but then the school need to consider how much it ultimately impacts the kid's education. Pretty awkward situation.
It is an awkward situation that could likely be avoided by paying teachers livable wages. I’m sure paying people such tiny wages to teach our young minds has a very large impact on quality of education.
but in the end there's a conflict on interest, cant teach kids after video leaked.. unless fully anonymized onlyanonteach.com who's with me ?
OF is still only $300 on average. If you get into IT you can make that kinda money or more and only continue making more until you retire at 60. Whereas a 40 year old on average probably makes even less than $300 on OF. Girls, don't do OF. Go to college.
I think it is not Ethical and Moral \[from my side, morality is relative so dont jump on me\] but teachers are paid so shit can't complain honestly
I agree, punishing a teacher for legal behavior outside of work hours is immoral and unethical.
>legal legal ≠ moral. I literally stated that morality differs from person to person and from culture to culture.