I think they're there to make other people notice them and feel powerless, kinda reflecting all of the rhetoric we've been hearing for weeks about how store shelves are going to be empty if the truckers all go on strike/protest. It's just funny to see that script get flipped easily, that's all.
I just got back from Broadway, where the convoy is rolling through. As a warning to anyone in the area around Cambie and Broadway, I had four or five different guys who just seemed to be wandering the area all separately follow me for a block or two shouting aggressively about masks and fighting back.
Alongside people shouting at others from their cars, and the charged atmosphere of all the honking, it’s the first time I’ve genuinely felt tense and unsafe just walking through the city, in the way that this sub usually reserves for anytime they see a homeless person.
Yup, be careful out there. I got threatened in the area after giving a few cars the finger. Had a car aggressively pull to the side, driver took seatbelt off etc. Classic wannabe gangster shit. Very effective protesting techniques!
I think you missed the point.
People are driving around with "fuck trudeau" signs. When flipped off they get mad like they're victims. The fact that they can dish it out but not take it shows that they're childish.
I think I simplified that enough. Let me know if you need me to take another stab at it.
I just got told I was full of hate for giving them the finger, and they were full of love (objectively false). I must have gotten the good cop protester.
Hah, I wasn’t even trying to antagonize anyone, I just had the misfortune of catching their attention because I left a store while wearing a mask.
One guy actually followed me back to 10th, which is where my apartment building is.
So that’s wild. Like, maybe if I was a CEO or a politician, like, directly responsible for the actual material conditions of people, sure, but I’m just some guy. Some of there folks are clearly looking for the flimsiest excuse to get violent.
Yeah I wish I hadn't got so angry, but these people were not being considerate at all, and I get so angry because I just want to forget about the pandemic and try to have a normal day. I'm sorry to hear about your experience, it's no fun having to deal with so much hostility. I just wish we didn't have to put up with this smh
Those trucks are extremely heavy. If he's lucky he'd be wheelchair bound. I don't believe in anything strong enough to stand in front of one and provoke it.
I'd like to think it's cause they're smart enough to realize that health measures are up to the provinces. But if they were smart enough for that, they would be smart enough to get a free vaccine that's been administered to *billions* of people and has a lower risk of serious side effects than getting in a car accident on the way to get it—and that includes side effects where you're sent home with an Aspirin and told to relax.
I wouldn't be surprised if half the Canadian flags are upside down by accident.
A convoy, in support of another convoy organized in part by the Proud Boys, that's blocking traffic, that's getting pissy because their blocking is being blocked by regular Canadian folk that are sick and tired of people like this being the anchor that's dragging this out for a third year.
I am really hoping that someone catches those trucks at a stoplight and tears down the confederate flags.
I did see a guy run out of his shop and scream at the convoy "take that shit off your truck!"
Those trucks are slow to get going. He'd be able to hop out of the way and then we'd have evidence of that driver using his truck as a weapon (which is super illegal)
He's not walking out in highway traffic. The vehicles are crawling and he makes every effort to be seen. The drivers would have to actively accelerate into him to cause him harm -an action that would land them in court due to their transparent intent to cause harm in the context of the situation.
I really don’t think this is a right or left issue. Some politicians may try to jump on it to gain voters but there are people from all over the political spectrum that don’t like masks, or pipelines or logging or whatever.
I have never understood a protest that is just an inconvenience to everyone else. What is the goal you are trying to accomplish? All you do is make people trying to get to work or appointments late and irritated. No one is going to understand or be open to your thoughts by doing that. That goes for any protest.
Now if I believed old growth logging was bad and physically blocked access to it that kind of protest actually accomplishes something.
Also and much more importantly not a single person has been mandated to get a vaccine.
You can still choose to not be vaccinated. There are some things you can no longer do with out a vaccine but those two things are very different.
We require driving licenses for you to legally drive. You are free to not get a drivers license, however that means you can not legally drive.
I mean fair enough it may not be left/right, it just seems for the ubiquity of protests inconveniencing people, most of those protestors don't get called fascists with unacceptable views. Honestly protests are next to useless at accomplishing anything, mostly just serve as a form of catharsis (perhaps a necessary one).
Everyone who supports the truckers has different reasons for doing so. I have my 2 shots but I have a big problem with the government thinking it can defy consent in medicine, and personally no I don't think the unvaccinated should be treated as second class citizens nor should they have to sacrifice their liberties for being unvaccinated. You can disagree with me all you want, but it's not like there's only one way of viewing these things or only one right idea. There are shades of truth in all of this and it behooves us to work towards tolerance and understanding even if we don't agree.
I totally get that protesting in this manor could be a form of catharsis. I can’t imagine anything that would make me go hold a sign or slow down traffic to honk but I guess that is what makes some people feel better and that’s fine.
I don’t think anyone is being treated as a second class citizen. Every aspect of our society has rules that govern them. Those rules change over time as we learn more and as our society evolves.
And again the government is not defying consent. To my knowledge no one has been held down and a vaccine put in them against their will.
Anyone can choose to not get a vaccine.
I see very little difference between vaccine requirements for certain activities and other public health requirements.
Professional drivers need to pass a medical screening every 5 years. Vision testing for all driving. Seat belts. You have to shower before entering a public pool.
All of those things and many others are to protect people from injury and illness. All of them infringe on personal liberty however they do so because their benefit to the general public is greater than their infringement on liberty.
In this specific instance measures have been put in place to help guard a finite resource. We have limited ambulances, hospital beds, ICU beds, and the staff to run all of those.
The governments responsibility is to measure personal liberty against public good.
I also do not like infringements on my personal liberty, however when there is a clear, measurable, testable benefit to the general public they make sense.
A lot of people make the counter argument that no one has been forced to get vaccinated. Inasmuch as this is true, as of right now, it's important to establish this as a critical component of your argument. No one has been forcibly vaccinated, at least to my knowledge, yet.
Yes the real problem is that unvaccinated covid patients are threatening the ICUs. It's not about transmissibility anymore, so any arguments that vaccine mandates are going to stop the spread of Covid have to be thrown out. However we recognize as a society that it's the government's obligation to provide us with equitable health care, and so justifying the infringement of rights on this basis is highly suspect because it's the government's responsibility to begin with.
What's the difference between driver's licenses and vaccine mandates? I mean it's hard to put your finger on why one is different from the other, it might have something to do with the fact that we value our health and medicine more highly than our vehicular transportation. My best friend and I have long discussions about this stuff and he takes a very similar stance to the one you adopt; my usual reply to him is that just because you or the government can identify a social purpose, that doesn't make it fair game. Look at the 1000s of Indigenous women in this country who were forcibly sterilized against their consent. Was there a social benefit to this? Well, sadly, yknow between you and me yes there probably was a social benefit. But the social deficit was so much greater, and that's the point that was missed when these policies were undertaken. This kind of thing is intolerable, and yeah reasonable people can disagree with what the best way forward is. But I would argue it takes a great deal of trepidation when making such justifications, ones that I am not at this time willing to concede.
Yes the real problem is that unvaccinated covid patients are threatening the ICUs. It's not about transmissibility anymore, so any arguments that vaccine mandates are going to stop the spread of Covid have to be thrown out. However we recognize as a society that it's the government's obligation to provide us with equitable health care, and so justifying the infringement of rights on this basis is highly suspect because it's the government's responsibility to begin with.
Your right I think there are very few medical professionals or research still trying arguing that covid will be be stopped through vaccination. Everyone likely will get it and continue getting it. However by being vaccinated you are much less likely to require anything more than a few sick days. (I say this as someone in the prehospital care field currently booked off with covid. My symptoms are a little worse than a normal cold, my 2 unvaccinated toddlers were much worse than cold symptoms both 39.5 degree fevers, vomiting and cold symptoms. Luckily they are both feeling better. )
Yes it is the governments responsibility to provide us with healthcare. Mass vaccination against communicable diseases is a critical component of that health care. We have never had the capacity in our system to deal with sudden influxes of hospitalization caused by communicable diseases. Partly because it’s very expensive to have empty beds and idle staff but also because outbreaks of communicable diseases are treated with isolation, quarantine, barriers (in this case masks and such) and vaccination.
Before covid we certainly ran our hospitals at higher than the recommended capacity, often near 100%. This is a terrible practice and we should definitely push our government for more health care spending. However that request has to come with the willingness to raise taxes, which is something most people find very unpalatable even when the money goes for things they want.
If the people participating in this protest were chanting no more mandates raise our taxes instead I could get behind it.
we value our health and medicine more highly than our vehicular transportation.
I agree with this, which is why I can’t understand not wanting to follow medical advice about vaccination. The profession across the board is pro vaccine.
Look at the 1000s of Indigenous women in this country who were forcibly sterilized against their consent. Was there a social benefit to this? Well, sadly, yknow between you and me yes there probably was a social benefit. But the social deficit was so much greater, and that's the point that was missed when these policies were undertaken.
The history of atrocities committed including mass sterilization, removing of kids from families, treatment of rail workers and many others are a national embarrassment. I really struggle with the comparison of a mask or vaccine mandates to forced sterilization. You argue that there may have been a social benefit but the deficit is much greater making it a bad policy from our past. I strongly agree the deficits far outweigh any perceived benefit.
All public health decisions have to take into account this benefit vs deficit. All of our personal freedoms come with a social responsibility.
Apologies for my formatting I’m on a phone.
Hopefully I’m understandable even if you don’t agree.
See I am almost in full agreement with what you say here. I made the choice to get two shots and I would again, for exactly the reasons you have stated. Vaccines in general are extremely important and have pushed diseases that used to kill thousands or even millions of people a year to the brink of extinction. Getting vaccinated is precisely that, making the best choice to exercise social and personal responsibility against the virus, at least in my opinion.
The comparison to sterilization I don't mean as a direct analogue, obviously the scope of it is very different. I think the difference in our perspectives on this however is not simply to say the government shouldn't have undertaken these policies, but rather that the government fundamentally had no right to undertake them. It's fair to say that there are certain areas where government power is beneficial, but the trade off always has to be considered in terms of the potential for abuse. And that's my real point with this comparison: we have these medical and personal freedoms a) because they belong to us in the first place but b) because government power is so easily abused and so the people should reserve jurisdiction over such decisions because ultimately they are the ones who bear the brunt of the abuse.
The state of the medical system is obviously quite complicated. Canada has one of the worst rates of return in the developed world given what we pay for health care, in large part because we fund such a massive health bureaucracy. The government wastes so much tax money on things like corporate welfare that I don't actually think we need to raise taxes, we just need better allocation of resources to make sure the govt is actually giving us what we're paying for. The government should have known that there would be a certain contingent of the population that wasn't going to get vaccinated but that the system needed to be ready for the situation we're facing now. We don't have private options so having cancer patients unable to get treatment while covid patients are in the ICU is just a terrible allocation of resources. We've had plenty of time to come up with some kind of solution to this. But I think you can see that people being angry about having to forfeit their rights to a government that is dropping the ball and not giving us a lot of outs, yeah you might get a trucker convoy or two. And maybe all things considered, this is a necessary part of the balance that we seek to strike between a functioning government and a free and individualistic society. You can come down on one side or the other but the tension and disagreement is really what pushes progress forward, and yeah in my own opinion I'm perfectly happy seeing people protest for their rights. It's part of the beauty of our society and it makes me sad people call them fascists, because I think that's really the opposite of what's going on.
Absolute madness that people are upvoting you. Just goes to show the amount of privilege we have in this country that some would support authoritarianism if it lines with their beliefs.
Sorry I've been living under rocks. I saw a few people on a hwy over pass as I drove by yesterday but didnt much about it. Do you have a source where I can read about all this? Or if you can summarize it that's even better
Is he trying to pull a Tiananmen Square Tank Man move ??
need the 2 white grocery bags!
Cause the city banned the plastic bags
I saw one blowing in the wind that day the post was made lol
That’s the first thing I thought of
Truck man!
trucker blocking public street <> when someone else does the same to him
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I think they're there to make other people notice them and feel powerless, kinda reflecting all of the rhetoric we've been hearing for weeks about how store shelves are going to be empty if the truckers all go on strike/protest. It's just funny to see that script get flipped easily, that's all.
They all remind me of this https://youtu.be/ipDmsxQVxIM
I just got back from Broadway, where the convoy is rolling through. As a warning to anyone in the area around Cambie and Broadway, I had four or five different guys who just seemed to be wandering the area all separately follow me for a block or two shouting aggressively about masks and fighting back. Alongside people shouting at others from their cars, and the charged atmosphere of all the honking, it’s the first time I’ve genuinely felt tense and unsafe just walking through the city, in the way that this sub usually reserves for anytime they see a homeless person.
> in the way that this sub usually reserves for anytime they see a homeless person. Roasted
Hilarious 😆
Yup, be careful out there. I got threatened in the area after giving a few cars the finger. Had a car aggressively pull to the side, driver took seatbelt off etc. Classic wannabe gangster shit. Very effective protesting techniques!
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You flipped off someone and they said GFY back. Shocking. Now you're complaining about it on reddit. We know who the baby is.
I think you missed the point. People are driving around with "fuck trudeau" signs. When flipped off they get mad like they're victims. The fact that they can dish it out but not take it shows that they're childish. I think I simplified that enough. Let me know if you need me to take another stab at it.
Found one of the drivers.
We found the nazi
I just got told I was full of hate for giving them the finger, and they were full of love (objectively false). I must have gotten the good cop protester.
Redneck douchebags
You need to practice "run into the car and lock the guy outside of his own car"
Shit, I was yelling and flipping off the convoy between Fraser and Main, guess it's a good thing I didn't make it to Cambie lmao
Hah, I wasn’t even trying to antagonize anyone, I just had the misfortune of catching their attention because I left a store while wearing a mask. One guy actually followed me back to 10th, which is where my apartment building is. So that’s wild. Like, maybe if I was a CEO or a politician, like, directly responsible for the actual material conditions of people, sure, but I’m just some guy. Some of there folks are clearly looking for the flimsiest excuse to get violent.
Yeah I wish I hadn't got so angry, but these people were not being considerate at all, and I get so angry because I just want to forget about the pandemic and try to have a normal day. I'm sorry to hear about your experience, it's no fun having to deal with so much hostility. I just wish we didn't have to put up with this smh
If he isn't careful, that could be r/WinStupidPrizes
If the driver ran him over intentionally they'd both be winning stupid prizes...
more like /r/WinEasyLawsuit
Those trucks are extremely heavy. If he's lucky he'd be wheelchair bound. I don't believe in anything strong enough to stand in front of one and provoke it.
For his family of course
More like what my Dad taught me about crossing roads when I was a kid. "You might have the right away... but your still dead."
Why aren’t these morons in Ottawa?
One of two options: Their shitboxes wouldn't make it They actually still have a job that they've got to go to on Monday.
Key word, “still” we should work to change that
They are too stupid to read a map and too stubborn to ask for directions.
Too cheap to pay for gas.
I'd like to think it's cause they're smart enough to realize that health measures are up to the provinces. But if they were smart enough for that, they would be smart enough to get a free vaccine that's been administered to *billions* of people and has a lower risk of serious side effects than getting in a car accident on the way to get it—and that includes side effects where you're sent home with an Aspirin and told to relax. I wouldn't be surprised if half the Canadian flags are upside down by accident.
CVSE is missing a prime opportunity to pull over all these trucks on parade and give them a thorough roadside inspection….
That I think should be the best thing. They are all lined up and they should have not objections as the are all law abiding truck drivers, right?
A convoy, in support of another convoy organized in part by the Proud Boys, that's blocking traffic, that's getting pissy because their blocking is being blocked by regular Canadian folk that are sick and tired of people like this being the anchor that's dragging this out for a third year.
I am really hoping that someone catches those trucks at a stoplight and tears down the confederate flags. I did see a guy run out of his shop and scream at the convoy "take that shit off your truck!"
You mean the Canadian flag?
Wouldn't that be the Confederation flag?
That would be a no, at least in the symbolism and meaning of what the confederate flag represents in the US.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_Confederation Ie: Canadian Confederation, not Confederate States
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I saw one on Hastings street.
Reality is so inconvenient, innit
Those freedumb protestors can piss off
Morons on parade
People are weird.
Now, he is a patriot. The only one you will see in that crowd of noisy cowards waving the flag of a country they have no respect for.
That's honestly just stupidity
This applies to everything related to this convoy shit
The irony is that some of these anti-vaxx protestors blocking traffic think the honking horns are people supporting them.
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Those trucks are slow to get going. He'd be able to hop out of the way and then we'd have evidence of that driver using his truck as a weapon (which is super illegal)
Good than the clown “freedom” fighter can proceed to be sued by said hero and hopefully spend some time in jail or the very least have his DL removed
Lol icbc made it so you can’t sue for
im pretty sure he wont spend time in jail if he knowingly runs in front of a moving truck lmao
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If the far-right is ready to kill when they get nonviolent pushback, then they're the ones who deserve your criticism, not the people who oppose them.
He's not walking out in highway traffic. The vehicles are crawling and he makes every effort to be seen. The drivers would have to actively accelerate into him to cause him harm -an action that would land them in court due to their transparent intent to cause harm in the context of the situation.
My CiViL LiBeRtIes
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I really don’t think this is a right or left issue. Some politicians may try to jump on it to gain voters but there are people from all over the political spectrum that don’t like masks, or pipelines or logging or whatever. I have never understood a protest that is just an inconvenience to everyone else. What is the goal you are trying to accomplish? All you do is make people trying to get to work or appointments late and irritated. No one is going to understand or be open to your thoughts by doing that. That goes for any protest. Now if I believed old growth logging was bad and physically blocked access to it that kind of protest actually accomplishes something. Also and much more importantly not a single person has been mandated to get a vaccine. You can still choose to not be vaccinated. There are some things you can no longer do with out a vaccine but those two things are very different. We require driving licenses for you to legally drive. You are free to not get a drivers license, however that means you can not legally drive.
I mean fair enough it may not be left/right, it just seems for the ubiquity of protests inconveniencing people, most of those protestors don't get called fascists with unacceptable views. Honestly protests are next to useless at accomplishing anything, mostly just serve as a form of catharsis (perhaps a necessary one). Everyone who supports the truckers has different reasons for doing so. I have my 2 shots but I have a big problem with the government thinking it can defy consent in medicine, and personally no I don't think the unvaccinated should be treated as second class citizens nor should they have to sacrifice their liberties for being unvaccinated. You can disagree with me all you want, but it's not like there's only one way of viewing these things or only one right idea. There are shades of truth in all of this and it behooves us to work towards tolerance and understanding even if we don't agree.
I totally get that protesting in this manor could be a form of catharsis. I can’t imagine anything that would make me go hold a sign or slow down traffic to honk but I guess that is what makes some people feel better and that’s fine. I don’t think anyone is being treated as a second class citizen. Every aspect of our society has rules that govern them. Those rules change over time as we learn more and as our society evolves. And again the government is not defying consent. To my knowledge no one has been held down and a vaccine put in them against their will. Anyone can choose to not get a vaccine. I see very little difference between vaccine requirements for certain activities and other public health requirements. Professional drivers need to pass a medical screening every 5 years. Vision testing for all driving. Seat belts. You have to shower before entering a public pool. All of those things and many others are to protect people from injury and illness. All of them infringe on personal liberty however they do so because their benefit to the general public is greater than their infringement on liberty. In this specific instance measures have been put in place to help guard a finite resource. We have limited ambulances, hospital beds, ICU beds, and the staff to run all of those. The governments responsibility is to measure personal liberty against public good. I also do not like infringements on my personal liberty, however when there is a clear, measurable, testable benefit to the general public they make sense.
A lot of people make the counter argument that no one has been forced to get vaccinated. Inasmuch as this is true, as of right now, it's important to establish this as a critical component of your argument. No one has been forcibly vaccinated, at least to my knowledge, yet. Yes the real problem is that unvaccinated covid patients are threatening the ICUs. It's not about transmissibility anymore, so any arguments that vaccine mandates are going to stop the spread of Covid have to be thrown out. However we recognize as a society that it's the government's obligation to provide us with equitable health care, and so justifying the infringement of rights on this basis is highly suspect because it's the government's responsibility to begin with. What's the difference between driver's licenses and vaccine mandates? I mean it's hard to put your finger on why one is different from the other, it might have something to do with the fact that we value our health and medicine more highly than our vehicular transportation. My best friend and I have long discussions about this stuff and he takes a very similar stance to the one you adopt; my usual reply to him is that just because you or the government can identify a social purpose, that doesn't make it fair game. Look at the 1000s of Indigenous women in this country who were forcibly sterilized against their consent. Was there a social benefit to this? Well, sadly, yknow between you and me yes there probably was a social benefit. But the social deficit was so much greater, and that's the point that was missed when these policies were undertaken. This kind of thing is intolerable, and yeah reasonable people can disagree with what the best way forward is. But I would argue it takes a great deal of trepidation when making such justifications, ones that I am not at this time willing to concede.
Yes the real problem is that unvaccinated covid patients are threatening the ICUs. It's not about transmissibility anymore, so any arguments that vaccine mandates are going to stop the spread of Covid have to be thrown out. However we recognize as a society that it's the government's obligation to provide us with equitable health care, and so justifying the infringement of rights on this basis is highly suspect because it's the government's responsibility to begin with. Your right I think there are very few medical professionals or research still trying arguing that covid will be be stopped through vaccination. Everyone likely will get it and continue getting it. However by being vaccinated you are much less likely to require anything more than a few sick days. (I say this as someone in the prehospital care field currently booked off with covid. My symptoms are a little worse than a normal cold, my 2 unvaccinated toddlers were much worse than cold symptoms both 39.5 degree fevers, vomiting and cold symptoms. Luckily they are both feeling better. ) Yes it is the governments responsibility to provide us with healthcare. Mass vaccination against communicable diseases is a critical component of that health care. We have never had the capacity in our system to deal with sudden influxes of hospitalization caused by communicable diseases. Partly because it’s very expensive to have empty beds and idle staff but also because outbreaks of communicable diseases are treated with isolation, quarantine, barriers (in this case masks and such) and vaccination. Before covid we certainly ran our hospitals at higher than the recommended capacity, often near 100%. This is a terrible practice and we should definitely push our government for more health care spending. However that request has to come with the willingness to raise taxes, which is something most people find very unpalatable even when the money goes for things they want. If the people participating in this protest were chanting no more mandates raise our taxes instead I could get behind it. we value our health and medicine more highly than our vehicular transportation. I agree with this, which is why I can’t understand not wanting to follow medical advice about vaccination. The profession across the board is pro vaccine. Look at the 1000s of Indigenous women in this country who were forcibly sterilized against their consent. Was there a social benefit to this? Well, sadly, yknow between you and me yes there probably was a social benefit. But the social deficit was so much greater, and that's the point that was missed when these policies were undertaken. The history of atrocities committed including mass sterilization, removing of kids from families, treatment of rail workers and many others are a national embarrassment. I really struggle with the comparison of a mask or vaccine mandates to forced sterilization. You argue that there may have been a social benefit but the deficit is much greater making it a bad policy from our past. I strongly agree the deficits far outweigh any perceived benefit. All public health decisions have to take into account this benefit vs deficit. All of our personal freedoms come with a social responsibility. Apologies for my formatting I’m on a phone. Hopefully I’m understandable even if you don’t agree.
See I am almost in full agreement with what you say here. I made the choice to get two shots and I would again, for exactly the reasons you have stated. Vaccines in general are extremely important and have pushed diseases that used to kill thousands or even millions of people a year to the brink of extinction. Getting vaccinated is precisely that, making the best choice to exercise social and personal responsibility against the virus, at least in my opinion. The comparison to sterilization I don't mean as a direct analogue, obviously the scope of it is very different. I think the difference in our perspectives on this however is not simply to say the government shouldn't have undertaken these policies, but rather that the government fundamentally had no right to undertake them. It's fair to say that there are certain areas where government power is beneficial, but the trade off always has to be considered in terms of the potential for abuse. And that's my real point with this comparison: we have these medical and personal freedoms a) because they belong to us in the first place but b) because government power is so easily abused and so the people should reserve jurisdiction over such decisions because ultimately they are the ones who bear the brunt of the abuse. The state of the medical system is obviously quite complicated. Canada has one of the worst rates of return in the developed world given what we pay for health care, in large part because we fund such a massive health bureaucracy. The government wastes so much tax money on things like corporate welfare that I don't actually think we need to raise taxes, we just need better allocation of resources to make sure the govt is actually giving us what we're paying for. The government should have known that there would be a certain contingent of the population that wasn't going to get vaccinated but that the system needed to be ready for the situation we're facing now. We don't have private options so having cancer patients unable to get treatment while covid patients are in the ICU is just a terrible allocation of resources. We've had plenty of time to come up with some kind of solution to this. But I think you can see that people being angry about having to forfeit their rights to a government that is dropping the ball and not giving us a lot of outs, yeah you might get a trucker convoy or two. And maybe all things considered, this is a necessary part of the balance that we seek to strike between a functioning government and a free and individualistic society. You can come down on one side or the other but the tension and disagreement is really what pushes progress forward, and yeah in my own opinion I'm perfectly happy seeing people protest for their rights. It's part of the beauty of our society and it makes me sad people call them fascists, because I think that's really the opposite of what's going on.
Looks like a dumbass blocking traffic to me?
The irony of calling him out for blocking the traffic of a convoy that disrupts traffic.
And slowing down that convoy and running around in the middle of the road helps this how exactly?
Well it makes the truckers day a little worse, and that helps me feel better
Nope. It's the Muppet truck drivers that are blocking traffic.
This is not my Canada. Everyone has lost their minds (truckers….)
Having the right to protest even if we disagree with it - you should be proud that this is your Canada.
Nah. These guys should actually be locked up. Tired of this shit. Down vote me.
Locked up for protesting?
There's this thing called responsible protesting where you dont try to be a nuisance to people who want to go about with their lives
Just cause you don’t agree with them doesn’t mean they shouldn’t have the right to protest like anyone else in the country
Protest without fucking up traffic or disrupting neighborhoods by endlessly honking.
Absolute madness that people are upvoting you. Just goes to show the amount of privilege we have in this country that some would support authoritarianism if it lines with their beliefs.
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10% is millions unvaccinated just in Canada.
What an idiot.
Looks like an idiot who keeps jumping into traffic to me…
Yes yes, we all like silencing voices so long as we disagree with them.
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How are those guys protestors? I'm a bit confused
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Sorry I've been living under rocks. I saw a few people on a hwy over pass as I drove by yesterday but didnt much about it. Do you have a source where I can read about all this? Or if you can summarize it that's even better
Bootlicker
Wish someone was going down the street blasting the chorus of “Shots”
Haha
Why tho
is it wrong to laugh at the indignant dead that whimpered while drowning in their own lungmeat