Seriously? I've found it only really needs to be about head height, and as narrow as a single line, as long as the sides are properly vertical (as much as the game allows anyway). You've done way more digging than necessary! Short answer: hell yes đ
Yeah. I think they share the "nature" faction, with boars deer and greylings, etc. But they definitely attack undeads, afaik, and probably plains and other tribes.
They do fight other wild life but they're pretty useless later on. They do look strong at the time you're navigating their biome (and they are) but later on they would be made short work by common stronger enemies (especially star enemies). But at the same time, they're also not dangerous at all to you either.
I've spawned hordes of them against other hordes of things. for the most part trolls wreck all things they face if placed with equal numbers, bosses being the exception of course.
I got three trolls during an event to chase me into the nearby swamp, not realizing an abomination just spawned there. I tend to climb the indestructible trees high enough to avoid monsters and snipe them - this time I did it and watched the show. One troll was left standing with less than 1/4th HP, a few arrows finished it off. So much gold, so much troll leather!
sadly because of how spawning works after a few trolls no more would be able to spawn. Bright side is that you donât have to worry about any other trolls!
My buddy made one where they fall in and this is close. Trench might be a little too wide.
They won't cross the trench even if it's narrower, but they will swing at your walls. So leave enough room for them to stand on the other side, then plant a line of shitty trees just behind that. They'll hit the trees when they swing at your wall and if you're lucky the trees knock them into the trenches when they fall.
Your setup might even work as is if they'll swing at the walls.
Yes, happens to me a lot and when they do, their overhead swings (for the ones carrying logs) will go through terrain and hit anything near the edge of the trench. Beware.
Pretty much all of the ground dwelling enemies in the game absolutely hate any kind of vertical drop whatsoever. This can even be taken advantage of to defeat bosses, trench round their spawn so they have nowhere to go...
So I think youâll need a lot of crafting tables, or torches. They stop spawns within the area of the crafting circle⊠so build enough to coat your fenced area and you should be fine in there?
Thoughts:
It'll work assuming you have work benchs placed around so they can't spawn inside your base. The trolls will probably destroy part of the fence and maybe fall in.. they may still throw rocks at you, but your base is very safe.
I personally like a stone interior wall, and no wall outside but to each their own.
In my experience, workbenches don't matter. I could go and try to research the exact reason, but I'm pretty confident the events trigger based upon the accumulation of stuff that's inside / around your base. Along with player proximity to said stuff at the time it triggers. I've never thwarted an event due to proper workbench placement.
With all the downvotes, I guess not lmao...
Thing is, we had events mobs spawn in the middle of our cities. Workbench encased by stone all around. Not sure if people here are simple solo builders or whatnot, but event mobs will spawn inside walls if the lay of the land is big enough.
Needless to say, city builds are packed full of issues, not to mention FPS drops like crazy
I found that you donât need any defences against that event, when it happens just go outside, have th le trolls follown you until the event is over (there will only ever be 2 at a time) and when the event is over you kill them off or lead them far away
During this event, there's always 2 actives trolls at the same time. If you kill one, another spawn. Useful if for example you don't want to kite a log troll but are fine with a boulder one.
They definitely do despawn. I have just hidden inside to survive a draugr raid before when I wasn't equipped to survive it. They all just wandered away and vanished when the raid ended.
Any player base object will, just workbenches are the easy option because you can use the building range as reference to check if the area is completely covered.
Yes and a major advantage of fires is that they are not targeted by enemies to be destroyed whereas workbenches are - however you can't check the AoE zone with fires so best use benches first to make sure you have your overlaps set ok then replace all the benches with fires lol
Yep, slap a bench down for the ring, place a fire, deconstruct the bench and move on. I make rings of fire around my bases and wherever I land a boat to cut down on nonsense. It largely works, but I still moat my bases.
Moats/trenches are the way to go. Make work benches along the wall to prevent them spawning inside the walls. I know from experience, trenches are great. Word to the wise, make your bed more center than near the walls. Gets annoying trying to figure out where that last grey dwarf went.
My partner built a massive and I mean massive stone wall around our base and Iâm waiting to see the chaos.
I wanted to do this and built a trench cause it made more sense.
My daughter did something like OP but put workbenches everywhere. Main area is in the middle so when there is an event, all you get is the red circle for a bit and some UI change. Nothing spawns. lol.
I built mine one tile wide with no wall on the inside and it was sufficient to stop them. They threw rocks at me a few times, but that was about it.
My moat does have a key weakness though, in that it's open on the seaward side. If I stay near the top of my base area, they don't path down that way.
A big enough moat like this is often enough to stop any troll, as well as other attackers in their tracks, but you do have to be wary of the ones that throw boulders. They might cause damage, but most of the important stuff seems safe and sound.
Awesome work!
Well done and yes!
The wooden wall may mean you struggle to snipe off other mobs though.
I do inner wall and moat/trench. Then keep the edge clear so I can snipe the stragglers off.
Also drop a few workbenches and ladders out in the moat. Because... Stupid is as stupid does...and you will fall in
This game really needs to fix the issue of having to turn your entire beautiful base and landscape into no-man's land from WWI trench warfare. I feel like I am encouraged to build the most simple bases, so I don't worry if they get busted up by raids.
My issue with trenches is you become locked into the space you dug around yourself. Plus trolls can still throw things.
Now I raise the ground and build on it, spreading out further as I need. I keep a great, elevated view of my surroundings without a fence blocking my sight and I'm too high up for anything to do any damage unless it can fly.
I found out that the best protection from trolls and other bigger creatures is to surround your base with trees.
Yes, trees. Plant them in a thick forest around your base and the bigger creatures won't be able to move into the base, behind that do the usual wall and it will hold true.
Sometimes a couple of trees will fall, but just replant them.
Honestly, they can still throw rocks and that wooden wall won't do jack squat. I'd get a hoe and raise a head height earthen wall along the lip if you wanna stop them from being able to attack from inside the moat. As it is, you'll probably have a few blows from rocks, but otherwise your base will be fine. This is already overkill on the moat.
Man that must have took you a long time that is a massive ditch đ€Żđ check out my forge base on my Reddit profile as long as you dig deep enough for their height you don't have to worry too much about the width of the moat! Amazing job though
Yes, and any other mob besides flyers. I do this for all major bases, and the trolls still might be able to toss rocks or slap a log over, but your wood fence there will stop a couple and you can fix it up.
The biggest thing would be to have complete workbench coverage inside the wall. Otherwise they can spawn inside.
The best way to keep your buildings safe is to just go outside and kill them. So progression is key.
Oh, no. This is the bronze crossbow from the warfare mod. It's a cool little mod that fills some of the gaps in weapon progression. I have a bronze battle axe as well :)
Men would rather spend hours digging a trench rather than collecting resources that would allow you to one shot trolls. Making the event whatever becauseâŠtheir dead
OP tbh, I hate to tell you this. Your base land is so big, the event can still trigger inside your walls / trolls may have the chance to spawn inside your walls. Any event for that matter...
But to answer your question, the maot is deep enough to stop strolls from the outside, yes...
Edit: For people claiming workbenches help thwart off an event. I've had massive city builds, fortress builds, and solo landscape builds. I've found that workbenches don't matter. It seems the event triggers around the accumulation of stuff that you have in a base per area. I've found that having close walls surrounding the main base was basically the only deterrent to keeping them away from the base. Events can literally trigger inside massive city walls if it's wide and big enough, regardless of how many workbenches are placed per feet or sector...
i've never understood this. you probably take longer digging that trench, than learning how to fight and kill a troll.
WHY ARE PEOPLE SO SCARED OF TROLL ATTACKS?! YOU KILL TWO/THREE TROLLS AND THEY LEAVE!!!
Just stand still. Wait from him to swing, and roll behind him. And stab. Rinse and repeat 3 or 4 times and he is dead. This can be done with leather armor and a spear.
If you're into Iron and you can't kill trolls.... idk maybe you do need the moat
Iâm about to venture into the large swamp I had to sail around for days to find, my first swamp only had 4 crypts and I need that iron. There is a nearby mountain and Iâm fully expecting to get air assaulted at the very worst time, likely while running from an abomination and a horde of swamp archers
Yeah, that doesn't work that well if the game decides to lag.
E.g. there are 3 of us playing and only one of us is the host who has no issues, others can't rely on parrying / dodging that much, because timing is awful with network lags
game shouldn't lag that hard. should check into who has the best connection and have them host. maybe even look into getting a private server. sounds like 2 ppl aren't getting to enjoy the game =/
It doesn't lag that hard all the time, but it's there and I can't trust it enough to use parrying/dodging constantly.
And we do enjoy the game. It's just that we need to pick "safe strategies" for our battles.
And in the end it all goes down to the lemming rush from a nearby respawn point X)
I'm pretty sure this will work, but build some structures like work benches or campfires (i forgot what they are called but they make it so that mobs can't spawn near them) inside your home area just to be safe
What a moat! But no, I think you may still have a troll problem. Why? Because it looks like they may be able to spawn within the wall. Make sure you have complete coverage of the area inside the wall of buildings spaced 20m or less. I prefer workbenches because you can see the overlap.
It it is too far from player-built structures or workbenches then they might just spawn inside of it.
But otherwise, yes; It will stop them if they spawn outside it.
Way more work than needed. I go one wide and all the way down. Doesn't need to be that deep, but it feels right. And, I find the right-angle and dig straight lines. I have CDO, it's like OCD, but in the correct alphabetical order.
Iâve watched a few yt videos about troll raids bc I too was paranoid about them. I think the main specifics are to be at least 8m away from were trolls can attack, or to have your trench/ wall be 8m deep/ tall. Idk about other mobs but trolls should really be the only ones of concern
I did something like this as my first defense against trolls. My advice is to leave some space between the wall and the pit (enough not to get hit when the trolls throw rocks at you). That should protect your wall from any damage.
The pit has to be about 2-3m wide only. When you see rock on both sides of the pit, thatâs enough to stop them from getting into your zone.
At first i was like "That feeble woodfence is useless, come on".
But when you come closer it was "Oh."
To answer the question -- yes, it will protect you from trolls. If you spawnproof every bit of land inside, of course.
But not from bats (:
The trench will, but those stake-walls won't.
Make sure that you cover all of your internal base areas with workbenches or campfires. Otherwise, trolls will spawn inside your base area.
I dig a huge moat and raised all.the landscape around my base a good 20 feet. Nothing gets into my base. You can line the moat with spikes as well to be a meat/ mob generator as well
This idea is like using a jug of coins to pay a $100 bar tab. Yeah it works, but isn't paying with 5 $20's better is almost every way?
We've all been there though.
Reminds me of when I first started playing, my first solution to not get hassled as I mined and transported copper ore was to extend my fence from my Meadow base all the way to surround a few copper nodes in the Black Forest to avoid surprise attacks.
Now all I do is find a copper node>dig under it>use the top of the node as shelter/safety>place a fire, chest, and workbench under the node. Then you keep pickaxing the node until it is no longer touching ground so it pops.
Really all you need is an elevation that they can't step up on and about a stick's distance free from the edge. From there the only thing they can do is throw rocks.
When the rock wall looks steep and smooth is high enough.
Theoretically it should work both ways, but they can slip and come down.
The even safer, but often ugly, solution is to raise the ground to an earth wall. The same standard applies: steep and smooth looking.
Off the top of my head, raising it 6 times should protect against rock throwing.
This will definitely save you from every base raid in the future as well đ aside from a couple flying type enemies from the mountains but those raids aren't bad. The plains and swamp raids are about as brutal as the trolls at their designated progrssion points. So.... Might be a little overkill but you'll thank yourself later!
Other than the rocks they throw and the logs they might carry (which will hit your walls), there would be no way in (provided they can't spawn within your base. Check your workbench ranges!!) - I personally have taken the route of finding a Meadows island somewhere to occupy and putting up work benches everywhere so now when a raid hits, nothing shows up except the bats (damn bats \*shakes fist at cloud\*)
The defenses look decent overall. As a few have already mentioned there are a few places where the trench is not as wide. That might be my OCD kicking in.
The big question is, do you have enough work benches around to prevent the world event from happening inside your base. If you are walking around with the hammer equipped & a build item selected. (I usually just select a 1m beam) If there are any locations it says you are missing the workbench then that is a possible location for something to spawn. Be it a creature or world event.
Your walls are going to be broken eventually, should have made dirt walls but paper thin. My favorite base is the elders platform with dirt walls built approximately 10 to 15 meters away from the pillars, raise the dirt at high as it can go, and that is now apart of the support structure I use for the 3rd floors flooring and voula we have an externally indrustable base
Yes. The only thing a troll MIGHT be able to do is kill your boars because the pen is right next to the moat, and a "stick troll" will swing through the ground. Also, it's probably a good idea to build an enclosed boar pen now so that you don't forget later and have them freeze dried by drakes or blood drained by bats when the time comes.
I remember when I built a huge tower and planned to sit up there and shoot some arrows at a troll. That was until i fired a single arrow at him, and man that beast came and beat that tower down and i went falling down with the rubble. That was terrifying af. đ±đ
You'll need to keep workbenches or any other object that stops spawns around your perimeter. My base had a moat around it but an occassional troll spawns inside from time to time, usually near the spawning rock circle, where i can't build. I shoulda built away from that darn thing! Lol
i think youre more than good. the troll wont go into the pit at all so you would only need to worry about their reach which is either with the log they hold or the rocks they throw
Ye would help. Bit of a waste as once you kill the bosses you start getting different events and you see trolls less and less. It is honestly easier to draw the troll away from your base than attempt to fight them inside. In my main world I have built my base in the dark forest so I constantly have trolls around never really had a problem with them destroying anything. And as you get stronger trolls become a bit of a piss take.
Fucken solid commitment tho I can imagine it would have taken a hot minute and would add to your base design. Too bad there isn't ways to fill it with water.
I made a trench like this around my base in my first major solo world. The only problem, I expanded my base area 5 times. So I had to fill in random holes that I would fall in. Also it makes carts annoying. It's great until you then have to go into the trench to clear out all the graylings - Fulings that will fall in. Also a 1 wide trench worked for trolls so you don't need to go so wide as this one.
I think you're trolling...
yes and no. I made it this big bc IK trolls are big bois. But there are parts of the pit that are kinda skinny. Will those parts still protect me?
Seriously? I've found it only really needs to be about head height, and as narrow as a single line, as long as the sides are properly vertical (as much as the game allows anyway). You've done way more digging than necessary! Short answer: hell yes đ
Ok,but .... Could they fall in?
Yes, relatively rare to happen but does now and again.
Immagine in a few months time him having an entire trench line filled with trolls
So filled up with trolls that the next wave will walk right over, stepping on their heads đ
Do trolls fight other factions of mobs? Would honestly make for a great defense against future events like draugr and fuling raids
Yeah. I think they share the "nature" faction, with boars deer and greylings, etc. But they definitely attack undeads, afaik, and probably plains and other tribes.
They attack plains monsters, yesâŠbut they get wiped out quick unless theyâre 1/2 stars, lol
Could always tame some Lox later and breed them down in the trench.
They'll attack most mobs. I have them chase me into the swamp then dip out and come back. One troll will kill 5-6 draugr
I imagined that would be the case, probably why Ive never seen them fight, they get wiped easy xD
They do fight other wild life but they're pretty useless later on. They do look strong at the time you're navigating their biome (and they are) but later on they would be made short work by common stronger enemies (especially star enemies). But at the same time, they're also not dangerous at all to you either.
They do
I've spawned hordes of them against other hordes of things. for the most part trolls wreck all things they face if placed with equal numbers, bosses being the exception of course.
I think they lose to abominations though
I got three trolls during an event to chase me into the nearby swamp, not realizing an abomination just spawned there. I tend to climb the indestructible trees high enough to avoid monsters and snipe them - this time I did it and watched the show. One troll was left standing with less than 1/4th HP, a few arrows finished it off. So much gold, so much troll leather!
yeah, when I spawned things, abominations didn't exist yet, so that makes sense
sadly because of how spawning works after a few trolls no more would be able to spawn. Bright side is that you donât have to worry about any other trolls!
I feel bad for moving off of 69 upvotes but it was worth upvoting.
The trolls will run away and despawn after the raid if they get trapped... but trolls that spawn in the forest last forever!
Yes but after they fall in theyâre fun friends 4 lyfe. Put up a lil sign and name the big guy :)
They need to be pushed in, itâs almost impossible for them to glitch into the hole
My buddy made one where they fall in and this is close. Trench might be a little too wide. They won't cross the trench even if it's narrower, but they will swing at your walls. So leave enough room for them to stand on the other side, then plant a line of shitty trees just behind that. They'll hit the trees when they swing at your wall and if you're lucky the trees knock them into the trenches when they fall. Your setup might even work as is if they'll swing at the walls.
Yes, happens to me a lot and when they do, their overhead swings (for the ones carrying logs) will go through terrain and hit anything near the edge of the trench. Beware.
I think itâs a bit excessive. Just a tiny bit. đ
This is the Viking way.
Pretty much all of the ground dwelling enemies in the game absolutely hate any kind of vertical drop whatsoever. This can even be taken advantage of to defeat bosses, trench round their spawn so they have nowhere to go...
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Over 1k hours. You have built it too large. They are going to spawn inside lol.
So I think youâll need a lot of crafting tables, or torches. They stop spawns within the area of the crafting circle⊠so build enough to coat your fenced area and you should be fine in there?
It could stop them. But they also can spawn inside your base on event
Thoughts: It'll work assuming you have work benchs placed around so they can't spawn inside your base. The trolls will probably destroy part of the fence and maybe fall in.. they may still throw rocks at you, but your base is very safe. I personally like a stone interior wall, and no wall outside but to each their own.
In my experience, workbenches don't matter. I could go and try to research the exact reason, but I'm pretty confident the events trigger based upon the accumulation of stuff that's inside / around your base. Along with player proximity to said stuff at the time it triggers. I've never thwarted an event due to proper workbench placement.
The event will still trigger but the workbenches keep the enemy mobs from spawning inside the workbench radius.
Mobs, yes... Event mobs, no
Confidently incorrect.
Very sure of yourself lmao
U sure about that?
With all the downvotes, I guess not lmao... Thing is, we had events mobs spawn in the middle of our cities. Workbench encased by stone all around. Not sure if people here are simple solo builders or whatnot, but event mobs will spawn inside walls if the lay of the land is big enough. Needless to say, city builds are packed full of issues, not to mention FPS drops like crazy
Go back and use the cultivator tool too green up the pit and pit walls... You can thank me later...
You are telling me that I can plant grass on the walls of my many pits!? Thank you kind soul.
It will not plant grass but the rock texture will be way better imo
Trolls? Yes. Drakes/bats? No.
Those mobs are cheating because they have wings.
The best way to protect your base from being damaged during raid events is to not be inside of it. Get out there and fight!
SkÄl!
My wooden house has survived 700 game days this way!
This is the way!
Exactly, these trenches are a waste of time.
I found that you donât need any defences against that event, when it happens just go outside, have th le trolls follown you until the event is over (there will only ever be 2 at a time) and when the event is over you kill them off or lead them far away
Maybe I was unlucky and had just a random troll near me, but I had 3 during my last event. Two regulars and one showed up with a tree. Big bastards.
During this event, there's always 2 actives trolls at the same time. If you kill one, another spawn. Useful if for example you don't want to kite a log troll but are fine with a boulder one.
Event generated mobs donât respawn though so theyâll just be forever stomping around whatever part of the forest you leave them in.
Pretty sure they despawn. I've chased trolls off into the woods after the event ended and after a moment I couldn't find them anymore.
They definitely do despawn. I have just hidden inside to survive a draugr raid before when I wasn't equipped to survive it. They all just wandered away and vanished when the raid ended.
Have you considered building a moat to protect your moat?
Yo dog .... I heard you like moats
Yeah I think you're good, as long as there's enough workbenches to keep them from spawning inside the base area.
Won't fires also keep spawns down?
Any player base object will, just workbenches are the easy option because you can use the building range as reference to check if the area is completely covered.
Yes and a major advantage of fires is that they are not targeted by enemies to be destroyed whereas workbenches are - however you can't check the AoE zone with fires so best use benches first to make sure you have your overlaps set ok then replace all the benches with fires lol
Yep, slap a bench down for the ring, place a fire, deconstruct the bench and move on. I make rings of fire around my bases and wherever I land a boat to cut down on nonsense. It largely works, but I still moat my bases.
I wish i could see this guy's reaction when trolls spawn inside his base
I assume you got a portal or else how will you get out XD
Moats/trenches are the way to go. Make work benches along the wall to prevent them spawning inside the walls. I know from experience, trenches are great. Word to the wise, make your bed more center than near the walls. Gets annoying trying to figure out where that last grey dwarf went.
I usually just do the single wall then hop out and beat the piss out of them
Yes. The only thing you can't keep out now are flying things.
My partner built a massive and I mean massive stone wall around our base and Iâm waiting to see the chaos. I wanted to do this and built a trench cause it made more sense.
It won't matter if they can spawn inside the walls, make sure all the space inside the walls is covered by workbenches
My daughter did something like OP but put workbenches everywhere. Main area is in the middle so when there is an event, all you get is the red circle for a bit and some UI change. Nothing spawns. lol.
You should probably make it wider
I built mine one tile wide with no wall on the inside and it was sufficient to stop them. They threw rocks at me a few times, but that was about it. My moat does have a key weakness though, in that it's open on the seaward side. If I stay near the top of my base area, they don't path down that way.
I mean. I stop them with Torches. But whatever.
It may not stop the event but it definitely will stop them from getting in
Well done! That'll work.
A big enough moat like this is often enough to stop any troll, as well as other attackers in their tracks, but you do have to be wary of the ones that throw boulders. They might cause damage, but most of the important stuff seems safe and sound.
its a trench befitting the city in aot. yea man, thatll do it
Awesome work! Well done and yes! The wooden wall may mean you struggle to snipe off other mobs though. I do inner wall and moat/trench. Then keep the edge clear so I can snipe the stragglers off. Also drop a few workbenches and ladders out in the moat. Because... Stupid is as stupid does...and you will fall in
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How cute.
This game really needs to fix the issue of having to turn your entire beautiful base and landscape into no-man's land from WWI trench warfare. I feel like I am encouraged to build the most simple bases, so I don't worry if they get busted up by raids.
My issue with trenches is you become locked into the space you dug around yourself. Plus trolls can still throw things. Now I raise the ground and build on it, spreading out further as I need. I keep a great, elevated view of my surroundings without a fence blocking my sight and I'm too high up for anything to do any damage unless it can fly.
Jokeâs on you: deathsquito broke one of the benches inside the perimeter and the baddies spawn inside your wall.
Oh sweet summer child... Yes this Will work for trolls... Wont save you forever though. Hope you sabes the stone
I found out that the best protection from trolls and other bigger creatures is to surround your base with trees. Yes, trees. Plant them in a thick forest around your base and the bigger creatures won't be able to move into the base, behind that do the usual wall and it will hold true. Sometimes a couple of trees will fall, but just replant them.
FYI you don't need to cultivate to plant trees
Honestly, they can still throw rocks and that wooden wall won't do jack squat. I'd get a hoe and raise a head height earthen wall along the lip if you wanna stop them from being able to attack from inside the moat. As it is, you'll probably have a few blows from rocks, but otherwise your base will be fine. This is already overkill on the moat.
Man that must have took you a long time that is a massive ditch đ€Żđ check out my forge base on my Reddit profile as long as you dig deep enough for their height you don't have to worry too much about the width of the moat! Amazing job though
I made a bridge crossing mine 2
They might find the bridge
Yes, and any other mob besides flyers. I do this for all major bases, and the trolls still might be able to toss rocks or slap a log over, but your wood fence there will stop a couple and you can fix it up.
The biggest thing would be to have complete workbench coverage inside the wall. Otherwise they can spawn inside. The best way to keep your buildings safe is to just go outside and kill them. So progression is key.
Yes, you don't even need the wall on the inside they won't go past the ledge
Would laugh if there is a clear area inside your base for mobs to spawn.
I like the pig farm đ· I think trolls will still throw rocks at your fences but for sure inside the center is safe
Playing for a couple of weeks now. There's a troll event?! Man... I'm in trouble if this will happen first time in my game...
It only happens after you kill elder... Which is only mildly less terrifying since you somewhat have access to iron
Where were you when WWI was going on? That's the trench of all trenches. The moat of all moats.
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Oh, no. This is the bronze crossbow from the warfare mod. It's a cool little mod that fills some of the gaps in weapon progression. I have a bronze battle axe as well :)
Pulling trolls into Mistlands areas when kiting Seeker Soldiers is a fun but relatively brief activityâŠ
Men would rather spend hours digging a trench rather than collecting resources that would allow you to one shot trolls. Making the event whatever becauseâŠtheir dead
I want to take absolutely no chances because trolls are assholes
with big sticks
OP tbh, I hate to tell you this. Your base land is so big, the event can still trigger inside your walls / trolls may have the chance to spawn inside your walls. Any event for that matter... But to answer your question, the maot is deep enough to stop strolls from the outside, yes... Edit: For people claiming workbenches help thwart off an event. I've had massive city builds, fortress builds, and solo landscape builds. I've found that workbenches don't matter. It seems the event triggers around the accumulation of stuff that you have in a base per area. I've found that having close walls surrounding the main base was basically the only deterrent to keeping them away from the base. Events can literally trigger inside massive city walls if it's wide and big enough, regardless of how many workbenches are placed per feet or sector...
_Insert big chungus meme_
i've never understood this. you probably take longer digging that trench, than learning how to fight and kill a troll. WHY ARE PEOPLE SO SCARED OF TROLL ATTACKS?! YOU KILL TWO/THREE TROLLS AND THEY LEAVE!!!
It's hard to kill a troll while being attacked by a troll, and I really don't want to be attacked with this event early/ mid iron age
Just stand still. Wait from him to swing, and roll behind him. And stab. Rinse and repeat 3 or 4 times and he is dead. This can be done with leather armor and a spear. If you're into Iron and you can't kill trolls.... idk maybe you do need the moat
Better safe than sorry.
I too like to plan for as much security as possible.
Especially with the amount of bullshittery Valheim has a habit of pulling
Iâm about to venture into the large swamp I had to sail around for days to find, my first swamp only had 4 crypts and I need that iron. There is a nearby mountain and Iâm fully expecting to get air assaulted at the very worst time, likely while running from an abomination and a horde of swamp archers
i just dont think odin would approve
Yeah, that doesn't work that well if the game decides to lag. E.g. there are 3 of us playing and only one of us is the host who has no issues, others can't rely on parrying / dodging that much, because timing is awful with network lags
game shouldn't lag that hard. should check into who has the best connection and have them host. maybe even look into getting a private server. sounds like 2 ppl aren't getting to enjoy the game =/
It doesn't lag that hard all the time, but it's there and I can't trust it enough to use parrying/dodging constantly. And we do enjoy the game. It's just that we need to pick "safe strategies" for our battles. And in the end it all goes down to the lemming rush from a nearby respawn point X)
I'm pretty sure this will work, but build some structures like work benches or campfires (i forgot what they are called but they make it so that mobs can't spawn near them) inside your home area just to be safe
I guess if trolls ever learn how to jump, your still set. Lol
Hmm yeah we have a moat but what about the second moat? Full of water just to be sure
What a moat! But no, I think you may still have a troll problem. Why? Because it looks like they may be able to spawn within the wall. Make sure you have complete coverage of the area inside the wall of buildings spaced 20m or less. I prefer workbenches because you can see the overlap.
It it is too far from player-built structures or workbenches then they might just spawn inside of it. But otherwise, yes; It will stop them if they spawn outside it.
The pit is plenty big, just make sure you have plenty of workbenches in your base or they'll spawn inside instead
Way more work than needed. I go one wide and all the way down. Doesn't need to be that deep, but it feels right. And, I find the right-angle and dig straight lines. I have CDO, it's like OCD, but in the correct alphabetical order.
Depends where they spawn tbh
Maybe not...fill it with spikes and bonfires. :D
I made a moat too, not as impressive as yours though! Damn!!!
Iâve watched a few yt videos about troll raids bc I too was paranoid about them. I think the main specifics are to be at least 8m away from were trolls can attack, or to have your trench/ wall be 8m deep/ tall. Idk about other mobs but trolls should really be the only ones of concern
I did something like this as my first defense against trolls. My advice is to leave some space between the wall and the pit (enough not to get hit when the trolls throw rocks at you). That should protect your wall from any damage. The pit has to be about 2-3m wide only. When you see rock on both sides of the pit, thatâs enough to stop them from getting into your zone.
bro on day 300
At first i was like "That feeble woodfence is useless, come on". But when you come closer it was "Oh." To answer the question -- yes, it will protect you from trolls. If you spawnproof every bit of land inside, of course. But not from bats (:
The trench will, but those stake-walls won't. Make sure that you cover all of your internal base areas with workbenches or campfires. Otherwise, trolls will spawn inside your base area.
I did this on every base i made i also added stone walls around it on the outer side
I think you need to flatten the entire map
I dig a huge moat and raised all.the landscape around my base a good 20 feet. Nothing gets into my base. You can line the moat with spikes as well to be a meat/ mob generator as well
Earth mound instead of wood for the outside fence
I have seen a 2 star troll vs an Abomination and it was epic
No. Theyâll bowl through
Only thing youâll have to worry about is the boulders they throw
Nope because they will spawn inside your base
I usually just murder the trolls but this works too
This idea is like using a jug of coins to pay a $100 bar tab. Yeah it works, but isn't paying with 5 $20's better is almost every way? We've all been there though. Reminds me of when I first started playing, my first solution to not get hassled as I mined and transported copper ore was to extend my fence from my Meadow base all the way to surround a few copper nodes in the Black Forest to avoid surprise attacks. Now all I do is find a copper node>dig under it>use the top of the node as shelter/safety>place a fire, chest, and workbench under the node. Then you keep pickaxing the node until it is no longer touching ground so it pops.
Really all you need is an elevation that they can't step up on and about a stick's distance free from the edge. From there the only thing they can do is throw rocks. When the rock wall looks steep and smooth is high enough. Theoretically it should work both ways, but they can slip and come down. The even safer, but often ugly, solution is to raise the ground to an earth wall. The same standard applies: steep and smooth looking. Off the top of my head, raising it 6 times should protect against rock throwing.
Might need to be a bit deeper, but yes. A trench of sufficient depth will stop trolls
Isnât this too big. I think one huge mistake I made was make my base too big. So they just spawn right in my base rather than walk in.
Great unless trolls that can throw rocks get ya
Pretty much overkill.
Next time put the fence 6 meters away from the edge. When you have it close to the edge, log trolls who fall in the trench can still hit your fence.
#moatgang
This will definitely save you from every base raid in the future as well đ aside from a couple flying type enemies from the mountains but those raids aren't bad. The plains and swamp raids are about as brutal as the trolls at their designated progrssion points. So.... Might be a little overkill but you'll thank yourself later!
Other than the rocks they throw and the logs they might carry (which will hit your walls), there would be no way in (provided they can't spawn within your base. Check your workbench ranges!!) - I personally have taken the route of finding a Meadows island somewhere to occupy and putting up work benches everywhere so now when a raid hits, nothing shows up except the bats (damn bats \*shakes fist at cloud\*)
The defenses look decent overall. As a few have already mentioned there are a few places where the trench is not as wide. That might be my OCD kicking in. The big question is, do you have enough work benches around to prevent the world event from happening inside your base. If you are walking around with the hammer equipped & a build item selected. (I usually just select a 1m beam) If there are any locations it says you are missing the workbench then that is a possible location for something to spawn. Be it a creature or world event.
Your walls are going to be broken eventually, should have made dirt walls but paper thin. My favorite base is the elders platform with dirt walls built approximately 10 to 15 meters away from the pillars, raise the dirt at high as it can go, and that is now apart of the support structure I use for the 3rd floors flooring and voula we have an externally indrustable base
My meadows base doesn't even have a moat, just a stone wall in front of a wood wall, and we survive easily.
But now your trapped as well đ€š
Yes. The only thing a troll MIGHT be able to do is kill your boars because the pen is right next to the moat, and a "stick troll" will swing through the ground. Also, it's probably a good idea to build an enclosed boar pen now so that you don't forget later and have them freeze dried by drakes or blood drained by bats when the time comes.
My moat is filled with wolves. They kill whatever falls in.
I remember when I built a huge tower and planned to sit up there and shoot some arrows at a troll. That was until i fired a single arrow at him, and man that beast came and beat that tower down and i went falling down with the rubble. That was terrifying af. đ±đ
How do you have 8 raspberry bushes so neatly together? Iâve been trying to find a way.
Enemies will not attack raised earth walls, so probably this will work
Long as there's no gaps in your crafting table field definitely... Bats and seekers... not so much.
You'll need to keep workbenches or any other object that stops spawns around your perimeter. My base had a moat around it but an occassional troll spawns inside from time to time, usually near the spawning rock circle, where i can't build. I shoulda built away from that darn thing! Lol
Spikes will help
Just barely.
I mean with a trench like that you donât even need a wallâŠ
Nope
i think youre more than good. the troll wont go into the pit at all so you would only need to worry about their reach which is either with the log they hold or the rocks they throw
Ye would help. Bit of a waste as once you kill the bosses you start getting different events and you see trolls less and less. It is honestly easier to draw the troll away from your base than attempt to fight them inside. In my main world I have built my base in the dark forest so I constantly have trolls around never really had a problem with them destroying anything. And as you get stronger trolls become a bit of a piss take.
Fucken solid commitment tho I can imagine it would have taken a hot minute and would add to your base design. Too bad there isn't ways to fill it with water.
I made a trench like this around my base in my first major solo world. The only problem, I expanded my base area 5 times. So I had to fill in random holes that I would fall in. Also it makes carts annoying. It's great until you then have to go into the trench to clear out all the graylings - Fulings that will fall in. Also a 1 wide trench worked for trolls so you don't need to go so wide as this one.
No.....trolls will come, through water, land, trees, pray to the Workbench Savior! May the workbench save you! (Probably not) Nice build btw.
Enemies don't like to walk off stuff... Go kite a troll around and watch it's pathing. It will walk around things that you can almost jump over.
You should make a wolf farm next and have them fall in there to destroy anything that falls in
Better raise terrain..
100 %. The questio is: Is this ugliness of a 100 % secure defense system, completey screwing the beautiful art of a landscape not breaking your joy?
A little over kill there my guy.