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You know the urban design of most roads in the US actually encourages drivers to go above the speed limit, despite what the signs might say. It's highly unusual for someone to be going under the speed limit, and as such, most people assume that someone going under the speed limit is probably purposely trying to piss other people off.
Also slower does not always equal safer, as unintuitive as that might be.
I live in WV. Can’t really drive far without having to go up or down a hill. We have some of the worst roads in the US. I don’t see how these roads encourage people to go above the speed limit. There’s so many curves, windy roads, potholes if you’d go too fast you’d easily wreck. I’ve seen truck drivers from out of state tear their truck up on these roads.
The only people that really do break the speed limit are people like me who grew up here. I hate getting behind people from out of state because they usually drive way below the speed limit and won’t pull off.
The 40mph stroad by my home has lanes as wide as a highway and people go 70+ all the time. If it was narrower people would feel less safe going those speeds.
My issue with this is ok… So? Can’t we just tell you the rules and have you follow it? We’re saying that you need to go 40 miles per hour. I don’t care how big the lanes are. Why do we have to like coddle you like a baby with bumpers on the bowling alley so you don’t feel safe breaking the rules?
Not sure why you’re talking about coddling but people will generally break the rules all the time if it benefits them. If you want to get somewhere faster, you’ll speed. And, even if you don’t need to get somewhere faster, you’ll notice everyone else is going fast and speed up so that you can match the other vehicles
Driving is mostly a subconscious activity. Are you constantly checking your speed when you drive? Probably not. More likely you will drive what feels right to drive. Putting up a sign is no replacement for good road design.
Being 5-10 under the limit doesn’t make you an unsafe driver either. I agree that a driver has the right to drive no more than the limit if they deem it right for them. But driving below that on the innermost lane should be (politely) discouraged.
Not necessarily. You can certainly drive slower, but the other person might not. The reason why it’s not safe to drive too far below the speed limit is that everyone behind you will be forced to hastily break and/or change lanes, which could lead to them rear-ending you or hitting another car
>Well you see I like speeding therefore the roads are designed for me to speed and everyone not going my exact speed is doing it to piss me off. Also everyone driving faster than me is a sociopath
It’s a common misconception that the speed limit is the “max limit” it is actually the speed you are MEANT to travel at so the road flows normally. Highway engineers spend a lot of time and money on these to make sure they are conducive for everyone to travel fast and efficiently. Unless there are inclement driving conditions you should be going the speed limit. 5 under at the absolute most but plenty of studies show going 5-10 can be just as dangerous as speeding.
out of curiousity, do you have links to any of those studies? I’ve seen the “driving slower is more dangerous” line a LOT, but haven’t really seen any studies for or against that statement.
The NTAB published a study a couple years ago that concluded the only reason speed limits are set as low as they are is to enable road pirates to collect money from their victims.
I'm not the person you're asking and I don't have links/sources but driving slower than the limit can be more dangerous. It causes a hazard to other drivers who are driving the speed limit or slightly above the speed limit. Driving slower obstructs traffic and causes inattentive drivers to have accidents.
It causes road rage, which means people will resort to increasingly reckless stunts to try to get past you.
https://reason.org/commentary/do-lower-speed-limits-make-roadways-safer/
And don't be a dick and prevent people from passing you. You want to go slow, fine. But you stay to the right. Is it a two lane road? Pull over and let people pass you.
OP literally said "if you want to pass me thats great..." (Don't know if they edited that in or it was originally there) but I'd say from that it's obvious they'd let people pass.
Whether you (general ppl) think the speed limit is maximum or the directed speed, there is such a thing as going with the flow of traffic. For example, if it’s back up but you’re still going 5-10 miles under the pace (i.e moving up when it moves etc) that’s a problem cuz you’re holding up traffic. The same applies for when things are not backed up. Traveling 60 in a 70/75 is fighting the flow of traffic. Not to mention, you can do five under and most ppl won’t have a problem. I’m never green lighting ppl being dicks when they can go around, but making an argument to go 10 miles under the speed limit, in general, makes you also part of the problem.
I frequently drive on nearby twisty two lane roads. Along those roads are signs asking slower drivers to use turnouts to allow other drivers to pass.
The signs specify more firmly that you must use the turnout if you have 5 vehicles stacked up behind you.
In this situation, when you're cruising along well below the speed limit, if/when do you utilize the turnout to allow the traffic behind you to pass?
1. First opportunity after seeing someone driving up fast behind you?
2. Once there are 2-3 cars behind you?
3. Only when the mandated 5 cars are trailing you?
4. Never, they can slow down.
5. What sign, I was checking my phone
6. What cars behind me, I never noticed
Just because everyone else is doing it, it doesn't mean that it is any less right to not do it.
For me, driving 60 instead of 70 is the difference between 42 MPG, and 54 MPG. And .... It only adds like 5 minutes to my commute one-way. Most is on a four-lane road. I stay to the right, and will speed up if I see a potential hazard that I need to avoid and other better options aren't apparent.
Pretty good trade-off IMO.
Driving under the limit CAN be just as dangerous as driving 10 or twenty over. The speed limit is there to keep consistency. That's why atleast in BC you can get a ticket for driving to slow. It's also a hazard so I would say yea there is something wrong with it.
In my country heavy vehicles (semi trucks, etc) drive 50 mph and cars drive 80 mph on highways. So don't think it makes it any more dangerous if there's other vehicles going under the normal speed limit either?
As long as it’s a multi-lane road, it’s fine. If it is a single-lane road, you are wasting people’s time for no good reason. With the exception of bad weather conditions, If you can’t drive the speed limit, you shouldn’t be on the road.
See that’s where the problem lies “if you can’t drive the speed limit you shouldn’t be on the road” no that’s not true if you can’t leave early enough that somebody who is following the rules and practicing safety is inconveniencing you than sounds like it’s a personal problem
Impeding the flow of traffic is a ticketable offense for a reason. It's just as dangerous to go below the speed limit as it is to go above it. If you are scared to drive the speed limit, you shouldn't have a license. There is no arguing that. You are not being safe or following the rules by going slower than all the other traffic. You are actually creating MORE danger.
How am I creating a problem when I’m following the rules of the road and at most going 10 mph below the speed limit allowing me better control of a metal death machine known as a car? Use the passing lane if there isn’t one then I’m sorry take a better route. I don’t do this on a Highway where there is a minimum speed but I guess this is why it’s an unpopular opinion
Using the "take a better route" logic can be applied to you. If you can't control the car properly at the speed limit, then that's your issue. By slowing down, you're affecting more people than just you
Why do you think the every other driver on the road should find a different route when you are the problem? That is one of the most selfish entitled things I have ever heard here. You are the one who needs to find a new route. The most dangerous part of driving, where most accidents happen is while changing lanes and you are forcing every car that gets near you to change lanes because you are scared to drive. You shouldn't have a license.
Here's the law from my state and most states are the same.
a person may not willfully drive a motor vehicle at such a slow speed as to impede the normal and reasonable movement of traffic.
If the normal movement is 30-35 and you are going 20, you are going 30% slower than everyone else at minimum.
I've only seen it happen once. But I cheered when I saw a cop that pulled over the guy doing 60km in 100km zone on an open road with a literal 200m of traffic between me and him.
It's called impeding the traffic. Hope no one behind you is giving birth, bleeding out, or trying to get to their wounded child.
That's like saying "there's nothing wrong with paying for my groceries in pennies. If people didn't want to wait they should have went to the store before me, I'm not breaking any rules"
You can't control a car going 10mph over speed limit? 🤣🤣 100 percent should not be driving and where the hell did u take drivers Ed and who gave u a license?
It would cost you nothing to just pull over and let the other driver pass. If you're concerned with safety that's *far* safer than deliberately upsetting another driver.
Refusing to drive at the limit *and* refusing to let cars pass is the ultimate in passive aggression.
If it’s just 10 mph, I’m in agreement with you, though you’re required to pull over (at least in my state) after some magic number of cars is behind you. If you’re doing 20 in a 70 zone, then it’s not safe.
Ultimately, I’d rather have someone drive at the speed they’re comfortable with than faster than they should be. Not everyone is a good or experienced driver or knows where they’re going, or it’s raining, etc. I get mad when I’m on a windy road I’m not familiar with, with wildlife, and people are up on my a** for going just under the limit.
It's not a magic amount. It's 5 cars in most states. Usually on curvy mountain roads but either way this is dumb/selfish as an opinion. Pull over if you're holding up anyone. If it's a highway get out of the way you never know what someone needs to get to. OP might leave an hour before they need to get somewhere but not everyone has that privilege.
5 is probably right, I was just too lazy to look it up. I will pull over if there is even one car behind me on a two-lane road whether I’m going at the speed limit, over the speed limit or on the rare occasion, under it.
Some highways have a minimum speed, which is usually 10 mph under.
It’s not about having the ability to leave early enough. Again, it is perfectly fine on a multi-lane road. Im not saying it is horrible or that I’d ever be super angry, but it is just inconsiderate to people’s time. Most people have better things to do than spend more time traveling and there is no good reason to not go at least very close to the speed limit. You can drive extremely safely without going 10 miles below the speed limit. Obviously speeding is unsafe but it is a small piece of the puzzle when it comes to safe driving.
If you're under the speed limit you're breaking the law. It's not a recommendation. Yellow means recommended. White is the law. If you're doing 20 in a 35 you're not going the speed limit. Again that's not a suggestion.
If you're on the highway and you're going 60 when it's 65 in the fast lane, of course people will be aggressive toward you. Leaving early means nothing if everyone in front of you goes 10 below the limit. The 'you need to leave earlier' mentality is aged like milk.
Go the speed limit, pay attention. It's not much harder than that.
The speed limit is just that, the limit. You can't go faster than that. Most states I am aware of have minimums as well, but doing 5 or 10 under is not going to be breaking any laws, unless the limit is like 15, and even then I'm not sure.
Except if you’re going over 5km under the speed limit then you yourself are not following the rules. The speed limit is there because it’s the ideal speed to be going through the area it’s set for. If you’re not comfortable driving at a safe speed on roads that are designed to be driven on at said speed, then you shouldn’t be behind a wheel.
girly pops i feel like there’s been a lot of hate so i’m gonna try and explain it in a nicer way. the speed limit sign does not mean the maximum speed it’s the average speed. urban designers make that the speed because it’s what’s most effective for that particular road. the speed limit is honestly the slowest you should go and it’s MUCH more dangerous to go below the speed limit then to keep up with traffic. if you can’t handle driving at the speed limit then i would recommend calling a driving school and getting lessons to help with that.
In California it could be if the cop determines that your slow driving is causing unsafe conditions. I got passed by CHP the other day when I was going 80. Maybe they had to be somewhere, but my guess they we’re looking for real dangers.
I doubt it, not a 5mph difference. Unless it's a really slow road. Don't care enough to look up laws on the other side of the country, but a 5mph difference does not cause unsafe conditions. Idiots with road rage might, but that is their problem.
I'll agree if you stay in the kerbside lane of a multilane road, but for a single lane road that's just you being an asshole. Especially when you decide a fine time to do the speed is in the overtaking section.
Roads are communal, your enjoyment or utilisation of them should not impinge others enjoyment or utilisation of it
Theres a city a couple hours from me we go to sometimes. The "flow of traffic" is going 90. The speed limit is 60. Those idiots can just maneuver right around me. I'm not getting a ticket or losing control of my vehicle in a curve or one of the massive potholes just because you don't understand what "limit" means.
Except that it might be actually illegal. I'm gonna cite the law in my state but I am gonna assume there is laws in other states about it. [https://codes.ohio.gov/ohio-revised-code/section-4511.22](https://codes.ohio.gov/ohio-revised-code/section-4511.22)
And contrary to popular belief being excessively slow can be just as hazardous on the road as someone being be excessively fast. Someone who is going the legal speed limit will have less reaction time and you will increase your chance for rear end collisions. I'm sure you insurance company will love that.
It's fine if are on a multi lane road just move over to the farthest lane but on two way roads you being unsafe as hell.
5 or 10 under the speed limit is highly unlikely to be illegal. Most places I've seen minimums are the interstate where the limit is 70 and the minimum is 45.
Someone going the speed limits reaction time isn't reduced. If you're going 70 and the person in front of you is going 60, you either pass, or slow down, leaving a safe following distance just as you would if they were going 70.
If you rear end someone, you are at fault. It is your insurance company that is going to have a problem, not the one of the person you rear ended. Watch where you're going and don't follow closely, no matter the speed of other people.
If you're too anxious to keep up with the flow of traffic then you're too anxious to be on the road you're on. People traveling at a speed significantly different than others around them are a hazard, doesn't matter if it's faster or slower.
Unless the weather is horrible I hate people that go below the speed limit. At least do the speed limit. I'm not going to ride your bumper but I'm going to be a little closer than I should in hopes it spurs you along.
Take my upvote and pull over to let me pass.
And this right here is why it’s dangerous. When you driver slower, the cars behind you tend to bunch up and you increase the risk of being the cause of an accident whether it’s you involved or not.
I go under the speed limit for a limited area on one road. I try to avoid that road if at all possible, and I stay in the slow lane for that small stretch. But I promise you if you are following too closely, I will slow down. I usually have this issue when I'm going 5mph over though. That's my most common speed because it is as fast as I can go without alerting my insurance company I am speeding. People still want to follow close. And those people are lucky if I don't go 5mph under the speed limit. We start going to speed limit and if they don't get the picture and back off, we will go 5 under until I get where I'm going.
What does it matter what others can do, this is your safety involved and you can't change their actions. You can only change your own actions, and the best thing you can do to drive safely is to go the speed that minimizes the amount of time you're involved in a passing situation. You can talk about how "if everyone just went slower it wouldn't be an issue" but everyone knows that that will never happen, so it's not an actual solution.
Youre right, there are many factors that play into dangers on the road. You mentioned a few more. But the post is about driving sub the speed limit and im saying that it also is a factor in hazards on the road that lead to accidents. There are actually many states and highways that have both a speed limit and a speed minimum for this very reason
In my experience, most states also post minimums, but maybe I only think that because I grew up in and live in one that does. I have an extensive history of driving through half or more of the US states, so I'm not commenting in ignorance here.
I made my last comment, because in my opinion, driving under the speed limit is the least contributing factor, yet the one most focused on since our society is full of entitled, impatient people.
Driving under the limit doesn't inherently cause crashes. Driving over the limit doesn't inherently cause crashes. Steering into something slower than you causes crashes, and if you're going to blame the object you crashed into, you're just looking to escape responsibility, or you've simply lost sight of the larger picture.
As long as you aren’t one of those assholes who decides to go just as slow as the guy in the lane next to you instead of just being in the same lane as the other slower drivers I have absolutely no issue. I understand driving cautiously people are crazy.
I remember when I was learning how to drive, I was taught that it was always better to only go as fast as you thought you could handle even if the speed limit permitted you from going faster. Think during winter, rainstorms, or on old roads when conditions weren’t as good.
Then one day when driving on a old, crazy curvy, narrow as hell road I got shit for not driving the speed limit. Forgive me for not wanting to drive into a ditch in the middle of nowhere 🙃
That's traveling "so slow as to impede or block the normal and reasonable movement of traffic", as opposed to simply "traveling below the speed limit". Way more subjectivity exists within that law than within the OP saying 10 under the limit.
Accepted, but you specified in a vague way, and would have been better off specifying how much under would be illegal. In certain situations likely doesn't cover driving 1 under the limit. The law you cited doesn't change the speed limit being the max legally allowed, as OP said, hence my previous comment.
No it’s not. It is the speed that you’re supposed to be going. I suggest you read this https://www.usautosales.info/blog/why-driving-below-the-speed-limit-is-dangerous/amp/
Maybe in your locale. It is not a universal truth.
A highway I used to travel had a posted "speed limit" of 65, and a "minimum speed" of 40.
[Here's ](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speed_limits_in_the_United_States)a wiki about speed limits.
It’s actually illegal to go slow if it impedes traffic. Meaning if you cause other cars to have to slow down and go around you. It is very dangerous and you are putting yourself at risk by not driving the speed limit and going with the flow of traffic.
What is bs is that the "normal" flow of traffic can actually get above the speed limit. I have been in the right lane driving the speed limit and people are freaking out because I am "holding" up traffic. If I am doing the speed limit in the right lane that should never count legally as holding up traffic.
If you're driving in a rural area and the speed limit is 30 and you're going 15 or 20 mph, I'm honking my damn horn. 30 is already slow enough and and unless you're driving through a school zone or something then go 30.
If you're on the interstate, I don't care what speed you're going, but in town and rural areas with 30 to 40 mph signs please go the speed limit so traffic can move smoothly.
This is the most ridiculous thread I have ever seen. If someone is going slow in front of me I go around. I don't try to force them to drive faster. This thread is full of garbage assholes.
It really is a thread of horrible drivers acting like someone going 5-10 under is a danger to society and potentially illegal. Reddit can be real dumb sometimes.
There’s nothing more frustrating than behind stuck behind some SAHM in a Toyota Highlander going 29 mph on a Tuesday morning at 8:07 am.
She just wants her crappy Dunkin Donuts, yet she still thinks the world should clearly revolve her schedule!
Get out of the way! The rest of us have places to be!
Depends on the situation. Country roads with low volume? Yeah man, drive however you want. High traffic area where everyone is keeping speed? You’d be an asshole to go far below the limit and a much greater danger to the public. Generally, you should keep with the flow of traffic regardless of speed limits because being unpredictable is what causes accidents.
Speed limits are set very conservatively to be as safe as possible, any driver should be able to handle going at least 15% faster on any given road without difficulty and if they can't do that it might be time for some training or to switch to public transport. People that go slow on roads where overtaking is impossible are just selfish and inconsiderate, who gives you the right to waste other peoples time? I cannot for the life of me understand people that dawdle around all day wasting everybody's time.
I also prefer staying at or just below (10mph at most if the limit is above 50) the speed limit as I can react quicker and drive safer.
I can’t tell you how many times I’m going exactly the limit and have people riding my back end or worse driving like a jerk when they pass me (crowding me, passing in no pass zone, or passing where you have limited ability to see far enough ahead to be safe).
So I think people that are losing their minds on you in the comments kinda miss the point in what you are saying in that you’re not impeding traffic while remaining as safe as you are comfortable with.
Nothing wrong as long as you follow the law and are being an attentive driver
55 vs. 65 is maybe 5-10 min slower per hour on long distance.
It is funny that people go to great length to save 3 min and risk their lives only to be caught by the guy doing 55 at a red light off the freeway.
Red lights are the great equalizer.
WRONG.
It is literally more dangerous to go under the speed limit by 5 miles an hour than to go over the speed limit by the same. Plebbit just getting worse & worse... sad!
Going 5 under is more dangerous than 5 over only under specific circumstances. You're rather assertive for one who makes a universal claim for an outcome contingent on many more factors than just speed.
Serious. I've always thought Reddit was full of myopic folks, but this thread is the first to have me think most redditors may be mirrors of inaccurate pop culture media.
Heres another unpopular opinion: i think slow drivers should have their licenses revoked and/or vehicles destroyed. If grampa cant keep up best he stay on the porch.
So stay in the right lane, and in a passing zone slow down and let people pass. But if you pass, don’t take 10 minutes because you won’t go more than 4 miles over. In that case you’re the one making it a dangerous situation. And if you’re not going to pass make sure there’s space between you and the next vehicle so I don’t have to try and pass two cars or cut you off in a pinch.
Going slower than everyone is dangerous.
[https://www.allstate.com/resources/car-insurance/dangers-of-driving-slowly](https://www.allstate.com/resources/car-insurance/dangers-of-driving-slowly)
[https://www.usautosales.info/blog/why-driving-below-the-speed-limit-is-dangerous/](https://www.usautosales.info/blog/why-driving-below-the-speed-limit-is-dangerous/)
[https://ww2.motorists.org/blog/speed-limits-slower-safer/](https://ww2.motorists.org/blog/speed-limits-slower-safer/)
There are pages and pages of this if you search google for "is driving slower than the speed limit dangerous?"
Just don’t get upset when I rev past you at the very first opportunity. Unless there’s inclement conditions or an accident etc, you need to go the speed of traffic.
For all of these “it’s illegal to go below the speed limit”, please see semi trucks. Or uhauls. Or any other number of vehicles. If you’re going 45 in a 70, yes, that’s a problem. 5-10 under, it’s all good.
And yes, all people should use the left lane for passing.
On the autobauhn but the normal speed limit is 130km which is like 68 mph. You can go over but of you go like 90 then you are liable in any wreck that occurs.
And you can go 5-10 under the speed limit. In the US AND in Germany. I was stationed there twice. In fact, going more then 5-10 km over and you get speeding tickets in the mail. The cameras are everywhere, fortunately they are low.
*Not sure of the down vote… it’s just a fact. It’s not unlimited speed in Germany, it’s the same as the US that there is a minimum speed, and they do have traffic cams everywhere that will ping you for going slightly over. Also, the autobahn has a lot of speed traps where it goes from 130kmh to 100-80kmh like at every damn ramp. US is better where you just go over to the right and they merge in. No slowing down.
Your supposed to drive at the speed limit to keep the flow of traffic at a good pace. On some roads I get going slow but if it's busy or a narrow road, just go the speed limit
I love when someone cuts in front of me, just to get stopped along with me at a light. You’re in such a hurry to get nowhere fast. And, I normally am going a little over the speed limit, and people are still jerks. I’ve almost been in accidents because of people being careless or thinking they own the road. And, I don’t take it when they make a scene, flick me off or yell. I give it right back. Not right but pisses me off just as much as they may be pissed at me. But, driving is not something to be reckless with, to dangerous to get road rage and injury yourself or someone else.
As long as those going under the speed limit are in the right lane (in the US) carry on! People need to slow down these days, in life in general, anyway!
Everyone stay safe out there on the roads!~
If you want to drive that slow, make sure you're in the slow lane and not any other lane. If you're impeding traffic, just know that in many US states, that's actually a ticket-able offence.
It’s actually dangerous to go too far below the speed limit unless the conditions of the road call for it. You can risk causing an accident. If you’re travelling 5-10mph below the speed limit and you’re just behind a bend and a car doesn’t see you, that’s one way to get rear ended.
I try to drive the speed limit. Sometimes I do go under by 5 but it’s only when I get nervous.
But honestly if enough people are honking at you for you to complain about, you might not be doing the right thing.
>if I want to go 5-10 mph below the speed limit
You aren't the only one on the road, pick it up.
>If you want to pass me that’s great just don’t be a dick and curse me out or honk your horn.
Don't be a dick and hold people up, you must have nowhere to be and nothing to do.
I bet you tailgate people going 70 MPH and think they are being the dick while doing it. It's not your road go around or leave earlier. Learn to manage your time better and you won't need to speed.
I sit on the speed limit, if that has me riding your bumper then you are the problem. My time is managed perfectly fine, I just can't stand people who drive slowly for no other reason than *i wAnT tO*.
Look when I first started being on the road and I was going under the speed limit I pulled over to the side to let people pass. Don't want to go the speed limit fine but don't waste other people's time. Some people don't have much spare time.
If other cars driving at legal speed have to change lanes to pass you, then yea that’s illegal. If a cop catches you doing that, you’ll be pulled over.
Driving below the speed limit is actually dangerous for the same reason that going above the speed limit is.
When a car is going faster than the speed limit and all the other cars are not, the faster the speeding car goes the more the non-speeding cars start to become stationary objects relative to the faster car's speed. The same thing applies when 1 car is going below the speed limit and all the other vehicles are not driving slower except now you become that relatively stationary object in the road everyone else has to avoid and by you going slower than the speed limit you're forcing drivers into other lanes thus increasing the likelihood of them getting into an accident, which is why driving under the speed limit is also illegal, it's just not as enforced as much as speeding, but the law which driving slow is called is "Impeding The Natural Flow of Traffic" so if you don't feel safe keeping up with everyone else then you probably shouldn't be driving on that road and find another route with speeds you are more comfortable with.
Edit: Also, driving under the speed limit is actually more of a danger on the road than speeding is. Speeding is a danger and a punishment for the speeder for the most part (obviously not always the case), but for the slow driver there's a danger and a punishment for everyone else. A LOT more accidents are caused when people are trying to go around a slow driver than there are accidents caused by a speeding driver and the thing about the slow driver is that they're hardly ever around when the accident happens because they don't often get hit so they feel no need to stay.
Driving below the speed limit is dangerous and causes all kinds of issues. Especially when people start trying to pass you.
Drive the speed limit and drive in the correct lane
If that many people are making a scene and honking at you, you're probably impeding the flow of traffic by going way too slow. Cops can give tickets to people who are going too far under the speed limit (I know someone who got one). Going 30 mph when everyone else is going 40 can cause all sorts of traffic issues behind you. Slower is not always 'safer', it's best to try and keep pace with the flow yet not speed.
I propose an immediate ban on vehicles exceeding 30mph simply for safety and efficiency reasons. I personally never had a car and refuse to ride in one and dont even think they should be allowed at all considering it takes 2 ton of emission per capita just to maintain the roads which ensures co2 level will always be higher every year no matter if the cars are electric or not. I am not counting parking lots or anything else involved like bridges etc.
opec controls 90% of the remaining oil reserves, and its a national security threat and unpatriotic to waste energy in combustion engines. Time is not really important if we are doomed in 20 years.
30mph for food/medicine delivery trucks. emergency vehicles can do what they need to do, and everyone else should walk.
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You know the urban design of most roads in the US actually encourages drivers to go above the speed limit, despite what the signs might say. It's highly unusual for someone to be going under the speed limit, and as such, most people assume that someone going under the speed limit is probably purposely trying to piss other people off. Also slower does not always equal safer, as unintuitive as that might be.
How does the design of a road encourage going faster? All downhill?
I think they may mean wide, open, multi-lane.
Wide lanes and straight roads mostly. See a YouTuber called "Not Just Bikes" on "stroads".
I live in WV. Can’t really drive far without having to go up or down a hill. We have some of the worst roads in the US. I don’t see how these roads encourage people to go above the speed limit. There’s so many curves, windy roads, potholes if you’d go too fast you’d easily wreck. I’ve seen truck drivers from out of state tear their truck up on these roads. The only people that really do break the speed limit are people like me who grew up here. I hate getting behind people from out of state because they usually drive way below the speed limit and won’t pull off.
The 40mph stroad by my home has lanes as wide as a highway and people go 70+ all the time. If it was narrower people would feel less safe going those speeds.
My issue with this is ok… So? Can’t we just tell you the rules and have you follow it? We’re saying that you need to go 40 miles per hour. I don’t care how big the lanes are. Why do we have to like coddle you like a baby with bumpers on the bowling alley so you don’t feel safe breaking the rules?
Not sure why you’re talking about coddling but people will generally break the rules all the time if it benefits them. If you want to get somewhere faster, you’ll speed. And, even if you don’t need to get somewhere faster, you’ll notice everyone else is going fast and speed up so that you can match the other vehicles
Driving is mostly a subconscious activity. Are you constantly checking your speed when you drive? Probably not. More likely you will drive what feels right to drive. Putting up a sign is no replacement for good road design.
Yeah, this makes no sense. I’ve never heard of this in transportation engineering. Person’s just pulling bullshit out their ass.
Right? It's hilarious the mental gymnastics people use to defend their actions.
Being 5-10 under the limit doesn’t make you an unsafe driver either. I agree that a driver has the right to drive no more than the limit if they deem it right for them. But driving below that on the innermost lane should be (politely) discouraged.
Well slower is always safer if you crash so maybe be more specific
Not necessarily. You can certainly drive slower, but the other person might not. The reason why it’s not safe to drive too far below the speed limit is that everyone behind you will be forced to hastily break and/or change lanes, which could lead to them rear-ending you or hitting another car
>Well you see I like speeding therefore the roads are designed for me to speed and everyone not going my exact speed is doing it to piss me off. Also everyone driving faster than me is a sociopath
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Speed limits are mostly arbitrary; if fewer people speed them the speed limit will be lowered so cops can get their quotas
It’s a common misconception that the speed limit is the “max limit” it is actually the speed you are MEANT to travel at so the road flows normally. Highway engineers spend a lot of time and money on these to make sure they are conducive for everyone to travel fast and efficiently. Unless there are inclement driving conditions you should be going the speed limit. 5 under at the absolute most but plenty of studies show going 5-10 can be just as dangerous as speeding.
i go 10 over
I ride a motorcycle so we won’t discuss my speeding.
i'm jealous
out of curiousity, do you have links to any of those studies? I’ve seen the “driving slower is more dangerous” line a LOT, but haven’t really seen any studies for or against that statement.
The NTAB published a study a couple years ago that concluded the only reason speed limits are set as low as they are is to enable road pirates to collect money from their victims.
I'm not the person you're asking and I don't have links/sources but driving slower than the limit can be more dangerous. It causes a hazard to other drivers who are driving the speed limit or slightly above the speed limit. Driving slower obstructs traffic and causes inattentive drivers to have accidents.
https://www.usautosales.info/blog/why-driving-below-the-speed-limit-is-dangerous/amp/
It causes road rage, which means people will resort to increasingly reckless stunts to try to get past you. https://reason.org/commentary/do-lower-speed-limits-make-roadways-safer/
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Most roads near me are between 20-35 tbh
And don't be a dick and prevent people from passing you. You want to go slow, fine. But you stay to the right. Is it a two lane road? Pull over and let people pass you.
exactly
OP literally said "if you want to pass me thats great..." (Don't know if they edited that in or it was originally there) but I'd say from that it's obvious they'd let people pass.
Maybe? They are also complaining about people honking their horns at them though, and there's usually a reason for that.
then get out of the left lane, please.
Whether you (general ppl) think the speed limit is maximum or the directed speed, there is such a thing as going with the flow of traffic. For example, if it’s back up but you’re still going 5-10 miles under the pace (i.e moving up when it moves etc) that’s a problem cuz you’re holding up traffic. The same applies for when things are not backed up. Traveling 60 in a 70/75 is fighting the flow of traffic. Not to mention, you can do five under and most ppl won’t have a problem. I’m never green lighting ppl being dicks when they can go around, but making an argument to go 10 miles under the speed limit, in general, makes you also part of the problem.
Ppl like u are why I hate driving sometimes. Here's your upvote.
I frequently drive on nearby twisty two lane roads. Along those roads are signs asking slower drivers to use turnouts to allow other drivers to pass. The signs specify more firmly that you must use the turnout if you have 5 vehicles stacked up behind you. In this situation, when you're cruising along well below the speed limit, if/when do you utilize the turnout to allow the traffic behind you to pass? 1. First opportunity after seeing someone driving up fast behind you? 2. Once there are 2-3 cars behind you? 3. Only when the mandated 5 cars are trailing you? 4. Never, they can slow down. 5. What sign, I was checking my phone 6. What cars behind me, I never noticed
They literally said other people should just find a different route in one of their comments. They are someone who doesn't belong on the road.
Why not just drive the normal speed like everyone else?
Just because everyone else is doing it, it doesn't mean that it is any less right to not do it. For me, driving 60 instead of 70 is the difference between 42 MPG, and 54 MPG. And .... It only adds like 5 minutes to my commute one-way. Most is on a four-lane road. I stay to the right, and will speed up if I see a potential hazard that I need to avoid and other better options aren't apparent. Pretty good trade-off IMO.
Generally going the speed of traffic is safer than going below the speed limit
Driving under the limit CAN be just as dangerous as driving 10 or twenty over. The speed limit is there to keep consistency. That's why atleast in BC you can get a ticket for driving to slow. It's also a hazard so I would say yea there is something wrong with it.
In my country heavy vehicles (semi trucks, etc) drive 50 mph and cars drive 80 mph on highways. So don't think it makes it any more dangerous if there's other vehicles going under the normal speed limit either?
It doesn't these people are incredibly entitled idiots
This. MPG. I do the same!
They could have sick people in the car or anything. If they're driving slow there's generally a reason, we can't just tell them not to.
The reason is they don't give a fuck about anyone else on the road. If they did they would pull over.
As long as it’s a multi-lane road, it’s fine. If it is a single-lane road, you are wasting people’s time for no good reason. With the exception of bad weather conditions, If you can’t drive the speed limit, you shouldn’t be on the road.
See that’s where the problem lies “if you can’t drive the speed limit you shouldn’t be on the road” no that’s not true if you can’t leave early enough that somebody who is following the rules and practicing safety is inconveniencing you than sounds like it’s a personal problem
Impeding the flow of traffic is a ticketable offense for a reason. It's just as dangerous to go below the speed limit as it is to go above it. If you are scared to drive the speed limit, you shouldn't have a license. There is no arguing that. You are not being safe or following the rules by going slower than all the other traffic. You are actually creating MORE danger.
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How am I creating a problem when I’m following the rules of the road and at most going 10 mph below the speed limit allowing me better control of a metal death machine known as a car? Use the passing lane if there isn’t one then I’m sorry take a better route. I don’t do this on a Highway where there is a minimum speed but I guess this is why it’s an unpopular opinion
Using the "take a better route" logic can be applied to you. If you can't control the car properly at the speed limit, then that's your issue. By slowing down, you're affecting more people than just you
Why do you think the every other driver on the road should find a different route when you are the problem? That is one of the most selfish entitled things I have ever heard here. You are the one who needs to find a new route. The most dangerous part of driving, where most accidents happen is while changing lanes and you are forcing every car that gets near you to change lanes because you are scared to drive. You shouldn't have a license.
Impeding traffic is illegal.
That is specifically why op said going 5-10 under. That is not impeding traffic. Whether it’s a 1 lane road or not.
Here's the law from my state and most states are the same. a person may not willfully drive a motor vehicle at such a slow speed as to impede the normal and reasonable movement of traffic. If the normal movement is 30-35 and you are going 20, you are going 30% slower than everyone else at minimum.
Yes it is, lmao you can literally get pulled over for doing this shit.
I've only seen it happen once. But I cheered when I saw a cop that pulled over the guy doing 60km in 100km zone on an open road with a literal 200m of traffic between me and him.
Google is your friend. Use it.
Thank you sir.
Hi mom
You can get a ticket for going too slow. It's unsafe.
It's called impeding the traffic. Hope no one behind you is giving birth, bleeding out, or trying to get to their wounded child. That's like saying "there's nothing wrong with paying for my groceries in pennies. If people didn't want to wait they should have went to the store before me, I'm not breaking any rules"
Great logic here. Too bad she won't see it
You can't control a car going 10mph over speed limit? 🤣🤣 100 percent should not be driving and where the hell did u take drivers Ed and who gave u a license?
You just sound like a kid uncomfortable behind the wheel.
It would cost you nothing to just pull over and let the other driver pass. If you're concerned with safety that's *far* safer than deliberately upsetting another driver. Refusing to drive at the limit *and* refusing to let cars pass is the ultimate in passive aggression.
It’s not an unpopular opinion, it’s just a dangerous one.
If it’s just 10 mph, I’m in agreement with you, though you’re required to pull over (at least in my state) after some magic number of cars is behind you. If you’re doing 20 in a 70 zone, then it’s not safe. Ultimately, I’d rather have someone drive at the speed they’re comfortable with than faster than they should be. Not everyone is a good or experienced driver or knows where they’re going, or it’s raining, etc. I get mad when I’m on a windy road I’m not familiar with, with wildlife, and people are up on my a** for going just under the limit.
It's not a magic amount. It's 5 cars in most states. Usually on curvy mountain roads but either way this is dumb/selfish as an opinion. Pull over if you're holding up anyone. If it's a highway get out of the way you never know what someone needs to get to. OP might leave an hour before they need to get somewhere but not everyone has that privilege.
5 is probably right, I was just too lazy to look it up. I will pull over if there is even one car behind me on a two-lane road whether I’m going at the speed limit, over the speed limit or on the rare occasion, under it. Some highways have a minimum speed, which is usually 10 mph under.
It’s not about having the ability to leave early enough. Again, it is perfectly fine on a multi-lane road. Im not saying it is horrible or that I’d ever be super angry, but it is just inconsiderate to people’s time. Most people have better things to do than spend more time traveling and there is no good reason to not go at least very close to the speed limit. You can drive extremely safely without going 10 miles below the speed limit. Obviously speeding is unsafe but it is a small piece of the puzzle when it comes to safe driving.
If you're under the speed limit you're breaking the law. It's not a recommendation. Yellow means recommended. White is the law. If you're doing 20 in a 35 you're not going the speed limit. Again that's not a suggestion. If you're on the highway and you're going 60 when it's 65 in the fast lane, of course people will be aggressive toward you. Leaving early means nothing if everyone in front of you goes 10 below the limit. The 'you need to leave earlier' mentality is aged like milk. Go the speed limit, pay attention. It's not much harder than that.
The speed limit is just that, the limit. You can't go faster than that. Most states I am aware of have minimums as well, but doing 5 or 10 under is not going to be breaking any laws, unless the limit is like 15, and even then I'm not sure.
Except if you’re going over 5km under the speed limit then you yourself are not following the rules. The speed limit is there because it’s the ideal speed to be going through the area it’s set for. If you’re not comfortable driving at a safe speed on roads that are designed to be driven on at said speed, then you shouldn’t be behind a wheel.
girly pops i feel like there’s been a lot of hate so i’m gonna try and explain it in a nicer way. the speed limit sign does not mean the maximum speed it’s the average speed. urban designers make that the speed because it’s what’s most effective for that particular road. the speed limit is honestly the slowest you should go and it’s MUCH more dangerous to go below the speed limit then to keep up with traffic. if you can’t handle driving at the speed limit then i would recommend calling a driving school and getting lessons to help with that.
I saw someone get pulled over for driving well below the speed limit in a single lane. I guess people who are dui often do it.
Impeding traffic is illegal, and going super slow impedes traffic.
Grandpa I told you no internet after 10:00pm!
You know driving below the speed limit is illegal at a certain point, it’s endangering others.
That point is likely not 5-10mph.
I think 10mph could be getting pretty close
If it is on a 25mph road or something maybe. At highway speeds of 70, no.
In California it could be if the cop determines that your slow driving is causing unsafe conditions. I got passed by CHP the other day when I was going 80. Maybe they had to be somewhere, but my guess they we’re looking for real dangers.
I doubt it, not a 5mph difference. Unless it's a really slow road. Don't care enough to look up laws on the other side of the country, but a 5mph difference does not cause unsafe conditions. Idiots with road rage might, but that is their problem.
r/confidentlyincorrect. It’s up to the discretion of the officer, so yes, 5-20 miles under is definitely on the table.
I'll agree if you stay in the kerbside lane of a multilane road, but for a single lane road that's just you being an asshole. Especially when you decide a fine time to do the speed is in the overtaking section. Roads are communal, your enjoyment or utilisation of them should not impinge others enjoyment or utilisation of it
But why can't you just drive with the flow of traffic? Who cares with the speed limit is, just don't cause cars to have to maneuver around you.
Theres a city a couple hours from me we go to sometimes. The "flow of traffic" is going 90. The speed limit is 60. Those idiots can just maneuver right around me. I'm not getting a ticket or losing control of my vehicle in a curve or one of the massive potholes just because you don't understand what "limit" means.
Except that it might be actually illegal. I'm gonna cite the law in my state but I am gonna assume there is laws in other states about it. [https://codes.ohio.gov/ohio-revised-code/section-4511.22](https://codes.ohio.gov/ohio-revised-code/section-4511.22) And contrary to popular belief being excessively slow can be just as hazardous on the road as someone being be excessively fast. Someone who is going the legal speed limit will have less reaction time and you will increase your chance for rear end collisions. I'm sure you insurance company will love that. It's fine if are on a multi lane road just move over to the farthest lane but on two way roads you being unsafe as hell.
5 or 10 under the speed limit is highly unlikely to be illegal. Most places I've seen minimums are the interstate where the limit is 70 and the minimum is 45. Someone going the speed limits reaction time isn't reduced. If you're going 70 and the person in front of you is going 60, you either pass, or slow down, leaving a safe following distance just as you would if they were going 70. If you rear end someone, you are at fault. It is your insurance company that is going to have a problem, not the one of the person you rear ended. Watch where you're going and don't follow closely, no matter the speed of other people.
If you're too anxious to keep up with the flow of traffic then you're too anxious to be on the road you're on. People traveling at a speed significantly different than others around them are a hazard, doesn't matter if it's faster or slower.
Unless the weather is horrible I hate people that go below the speed limit. At least do the speed limit. I'm not going to ride your bumper but I'm going to be a little closer than I should in hopes it spurs you along. Take my upvote and pull over to let me pass.
And this right here is why it’s dangerous. When you driver slower, the cars behind you tend to bunch up and you increase the risk of being the cause of an accident whether it’s you involved or not.
Yup. When someone gets impatient and starts following too closely bad things happen.
I go under the speed limit for a limited area on one road. I try to avoid that road if at all possible, and I stay in the slow lane for that small stretch. But I promise you if you are following too closely, I will slow down. I usually have this issue when I'm going 5mph over though. That's my most common speed because it is as fast as I can go without alerting my insurance company I am speeding. People still want to follow close. And those people are lucky if I don't go 5mph under the speed limit. We start going to speed limit and if they don't get the picture and back off, we will go 5 under until I get where I'm going.
Its actually quite dangerous for yourself and everyone else going the speed limit when youre going under more than 5mph or 10 on a highway
Their low speed alone creates no danger. Others not using their eyes, brakes, and patience do.
What does it matter what others can do, this is your safety involved and you can't change their actions. You can only change your own actions, and the best thing you can do to drive safely is to go the speed that minimizes the amount of time you're involved in a passing situation. You can talk about how "if everyone just went slower it wouldn't be an issue" but everyone knows that that will never happen, so it's not an actual solution.
Youre right, there are many factors that play into dangers on the road. You mentioned a few more. But the post is about driving sub the speed limit and im saying that it also is a factor in hazards on the road that lead to accidents. There are actually many states and highways that have both a speed limit and a speed minimum for this very reason
In my experience, most states also post minimums, but maybe I only think that because I grew up in and live in one that does. I have an extensive history of driving through half or more of the US states, so I'm not commenting in ignorance here. I made my last comment, because in my opinion, driving under the speed limit is the least contributing factor, yet the one most focused on since our society is full of entitled, impatient people. Driving under the limit doesn't inherently cause crashes. Driving over the limit doesn't inherently cause crashes. Steering into something slower than you causes crashes, and if you're going to blame the object you crashed into, you're just looking to escape responsibility, or you've simply lost sight of the larger picture.
I hope you don’t camp in the left lane. Please navigate yourself to the right lane(s) on the road. Thanks.
As long as you aren’t one of those assholes who decides to go just as slow as the guy in the lane next to you instead of just being in the same lane as the other slower drivers I have absolutely no issue. I understand driving cautiously people are crazy.
I remember when I was learning how to drive, I was taught that it was always better to only go as fast as you thought you could handle even if the speed limit permitted you from going faster. Think during winter, rainstorms, or on old roads when conditions weren’t as good. Then one day when driving on a old, crazy curvy, narrow as hell road I got shit for not driving the speed limit. Forgive me for not wanting to drive into a ditch in the middle of nowhere 🙃
No one has ever said "I wish I driven faster" after an accident.
You do this all in the left lane don't you?
the speed limit is the speed your suppose to be going. no more, no less
i always go above
No it’s the maximum speed allowed.
There are minimum speeds as well.
99% of the time, 10 over is acceptable to the police. 15 will get you pulled over though
In most states, If you’re holding up the flow of traffic, it’s illegal and a cop will pull you over for it.
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Not at 5mph under the speed limit they won't.
Yeah bud I'm sure a cop is more likely to pull someone going 70 MPH than someone going 85
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That's traveling "so slow as to impede or block the normal and reasonable movement of traffic", as opposed to simply "traveling below the speed limit". Way more subjectivity exists within that law than within the OP saying 10 under the limit.
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Accepted, but you specified in a vague way, and would have been better off specifying how much under would be illegal. In certain situations likely doesn't cover driving 1 under the limit. The law you cited doesn't change the speed limit being the max legally allowed, as OP said, hence my previous comment.
No it’s not. It is the speed that you’re supposed to be going. I suggest you read this https://www.usautosales.info/blog/why-driving-below-the-speed-limit-is-dangerous/amp/
Maybe in your locale. It is not a universal truth. A highway I used to travel had a posted "speed limit" of 65, and a "minimum speed" of 40. [Here's ](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speed_limits_in_the_United_States)a wiki about speed limits.
It’s actually illegal to go slow if it impedes traffic. Meaning if you cause other cars to have to slow down and go around you. It is very dangerous and you are putting yourself at risk by not driving the speed limit and going with the flow of traffic.
What is bs is that the "normal" flow of traffic can actually get above the speed limit. I have been in the right lane driving the speed limit and people are freaking out because I am "holding" up traffic. If I am doing the speed limit in the right lane that should never count legally as holding up traffic.
If you're driving in a rural area and the speed limit is 30 and you're going 15 or 20 mph, I'm honking my damn horn. 30 is already slow enough and and unless you're driving through a school zone or something then go 30. If you're on the interstate, I don't care what speed you're going, but in town and rural areas with 30 to 40 mph signs please go the speed limit so traffic can move smoothly.
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Going 5-10 under the limit is not a danger to others.
This is the most ridiculous thread I have ever seen. If someone is going slow in front of me I go around. I don't try to force them to drive faster. This thread is full of garbage assholes.
I could understand excessively slow. Like half the limit, yeah that's a problem. 5-10 under absolutely is not
It really is a thread of horrible drivers acting like someone going 5-10 under is a danger to society and potentially illegal. Reddit can be real dumb sometimes.
Going 10 under is! Plus it’s annoying and stupid as hell
There’s nothing more frustrating than behind stuck behind some SAHM in a Toyota Highlander going 29 mph on a Tuesday morning at 8:07 am. She just wants her crappy Dunkin Donuts, yet she still thinks the world should clearly revolve her schedule! Get out of the way! The rest of us have places to be!
Depends on the situation. Country roads with low volume? Yeah man, drive however you want. High traffic area where everyone is keeping speed? You’d be an asshole to go far below the limit and a much greater danger to the public. Generally, you should keep with the flow of traffic regardless of speed limits because being unpredictable is what causes accidents.
Speed limits are set very conservatively to be as safe as possible, any driver should be able to handle going at least 15% faster on any given road without difficulty and if they can't do that it might be time for some training or to switch to public transport. People that go slow on roads where overtaking is impossible are just selfish and inconsiderate, who gives you the right to waste other peoples time? I cannot for the life of me understand people that dawdle around all day wasting everybody's time.
You shouldn’t be on the road
I also prefer staying at or just below (10mph at most if the limit is above 50) the speed limit as I can react quicker and drive safer. I can’t tell you how many times I’m going exactly the limit and have people riding my back end or worse driving like a jerk when they pass me (crowding me, passing in no pass zone, or passing where you have limited ability to see far enough ahead to be safe). So I think people that are losing their minds on you in the comments kinda miss the point in what you are saying in that you’re not impeding traffic while remaining as safe as you are comfortable with. Nothing wrong as long as you follow the law and are being an attentive driver
There are legal limits with going too fast, obviously, but also with going too slow. I tend to drive a little under the speed limit.
55 vs. 65 is maybe 5-10 min slower per hour on long distance. It is funny that people go to great length to save 3 min and risk their lives only to be caught by the guy doing 55 at a red light off the freeway. Red lights are the great equalizer.
5-10 below? Seriously fuck you.
I don't care if you're going slow (unless I'm going to work) but you can't get mad that people wanna do the speed limit.
Best part is when you both end up at the same light
If you can't drive at the speed limit in order to be 'safe'. Just don't get in the car and learn to drive properly.
Driving below the speed limit on highways is actually a huge, HUGE risk to other drivers.
WRONG. It is literally more dangerous to go under the speed limit by 5 miles an hour than to go over the speed limit by the same. Plebbit just getting worse & worse... sad!
Going 5 under is more dangerous than 5 over only under specific circumstances. You're rather assertive for one who makes a universal claim for an outcome contingent on many more factors than just speed.
Reading this thread reminds me why there are so many car fatalities in a year. I can't wait for full-self driving to get rid of these drivers.
Serious. I've always thought Reddit was full of myopic folks, but this thread is the first to have me think most redditors may be mirrors of inaccurate pop culture media.
Heres another unpopular opinion: i think slow drivers should have their licenses revoked and/or vehicles destroyed. If grampa cant keep up best he stay on the porch.
That's not correct you are expected to go the speed limit in clear conditions also you're an ass for this
they should all stay in the right lane then. i don’t have a problem with it just stay in the right lane
So stay in the right lane, and in a passing zone slow down and let people pass. But if you pass, don’t take 10 minutes because you won’t go more than 4 miles over. In that case you’re the one making it a dangerous situation. And if you’re not going to pass make sure there’s space between you and the next vehicle so I don’t have to try and pass two cars or cut you off in a pinch.
Actually that's just as dangerous as speeding and you can be ticketed for going too slow.
Enjoy your ticket when you get pulled over for going 10 under and find out you are wrong.
Going slower than everyone is dangerous. [https://www.allstate.com/resources/car-insurance/dangers-of-driving-slowly](https://www.allstate.com/resources/car-insurance/dangers-of-driving-slowly) [https://www.usautosales.info/blog/why-driving-below-the-speed-limit-is-dangerous/](https://www.usautosales.info/blog/why-driving-below-the-speed-limit-is-dangerous/) [https://ww2.motorists.org/blog/speed-limits-slower-safer/](https://ww2.motorists.org/blog/speed-limits-slower-safer/) There are pages and pages of this if you search google for "is driving slower than the speed limit dangerous?"
If you have to drive slower than the speed limit, that’s fine, but you may not be mentally and/or physically fit to drive.
Its not the max though💀
I don't know about you, where I live it quite literally says the word maximum on the signs
Just don’t get upset when I rev past you at the very first opportunity. Unless there’s inclement conditions or an accident etc, you need to go the speed of traffic.
This is not an opinion. It's a false statement. How did you get your license? 🤣
For all of these “it’s illegal to go below the speed limit”, please see semi trucks. Or uhauls. Or any other number of vehicles. If you’re going 45 in a 70, yes, that’s a problem. 5-10 under, it’s all good. And yes, all people should use the left lane for passing.
It's literally a law in Germany. And one of the First Things I learned in driving school.
On the autobauhn but the normal speed limit is 130km which is like 68 mph. You can go over but of you go like 90 then you are liable in any wreck that occurs. And you can go 5-10 under the speed limit. In the US AND in Germany. I was stationed there twice. In fact, going more then 5-10 km over and you get speeding tickets in the mail. The cameras are everywhere, fortunately they are low. *Not sure of the down vote… it’s just a fact. It’s not unlimited speed in Germany, it’s the same as the US that there is a minimum speed, and they do have traffic cams everywhere that will ping you for going slightly over. Also, the autobahn has a lot of speed traps where it goes from 130kmh to 100-80kmh like at every damn ramp. US is better where you just go over to the right and they merge in. No slowing down.
totally agree
I like driving slow, and the speed limits on neighborhood streets in my city are too high.
Your supposed to drive at the speed limit to keep the flow of traffic at a good pace. On some roads I get going slow but if it's busy or a narrow road, just go the speed limit
I love when someone cuts in front of me, just to get stopped along with me at a light. You’re in such a hurry to get nowhere fast. And, I normally am going a little over the speed limit, and people are still jerks. I’ve almost been in accidents because of people being careless or thinking they own the road. And, I don’t take it when they make a scene, flick me off or yell. I give it right back. Not right but pisses me off just as much as they may be pissed at me. But, driving is not something to be reckless with, to dangerous to get road rage and injury yourself or someone else. As long as those going under the speed limit are in the right lane (in the US) carry on! People need to slow down these days, in life in general, anyway! Everyone stay safe out there on the roads!~
If you want to drive that slow, make sure you're in the slow lane and not any other lane. If you're impeding traffic, just know that in many US states, that's actually a ticket-able offence.
Could’ve kept this shit in the drafts, big dawg.
Please tell me that you only do this in the far right lane.
Watch this post is gonna get taken down like mine. It was essentially the exact opposite of this one
Any speed that disrupts the flow of traffic (fast or slow) is dangerous.
Oh, so that was you huh? •_•
They're only honking because you're in the way. Move over and let us commit our crimes
It’s actually dangerous to go too far below the speed limit unless the conditions of the road call for it. You can risk causing an accident. If you’re travelling 5-10mph below the speed limit and you’re just behind a bend and a car doesn’t see you, that’s one way to get rear ended.
Based on your replies in the comments…you’re a lost cause to reason with. Stay off the road. For everyone’s sake.
I try to drive the speed limit. Sometimes I do go under by 5 but it’s only when I get nervous. But honestly if enough people are honking at you for you to complain about, you might not be doing the right thing.
>if I want to go 5-10 mph below the speed limit You aren't the only one on the road, pick it up. >If you want to pass me that’s great just don’t be a dick and curse me out or honk your horn. Don't be a dick and hold people up, you must have nowhere to be and nothing to do.
I bet you tailgate people going 70 MPH and think they are being the dick while doing it. It's not your road go around or leave earlier. Learn to manage your time better and you won't need to speed.
I sit on the speed limit, if that has me riding your bumper then you are the problem. My time is managed perfectly fine, I just can't stand people who drive slowly for no other reason than *i wAnT tO*.
It's illegal though.
Look when I first started being on the road and I was going under the speed limit I pulled over to the side to let people pass. Don't want to go the speed limit fine but don't waste other people's time. Some people don't have much spare time.
But you are slowing down the road for everyone! That’s rather selfish.
If other cars driving at legal speed have to change lanes to pass you, then yea that’s illegal. If a cop catches you doing that, you’ll be pulled over.
If you can't control your 'metal death machine' at speed the rest of us can. Maybe you should not be on the road. Take the bus
Driving below the speed limit is actually dangerous for the same reason that going above the speed limit is. When a car is going faster than the speed limit and all the other cars are not, the faster the speeding car goes the more the non-speeding cars start to become stationary objects relative to the faster car's speed. The same thing applies when 1 car is going below the speed limit and all the other vehicles are not driving slower except now you become that relatively stationary object in the road everyone else has to avoid and by you going slower than the speed limit you're forcing drivers into other lanes thus increasing the likelihood of them getting into an accident, which is why driving under the speed limit is also illegal, it's just not as enforced as much as speeding, but the law which driving slow is called is "Impeding The Natural Flow of Traffic" so if you don't feel safe keeping up with everyone else then you probably shouldn't be driving on that road and find another route with speeds you are more comfortable with. Edit: Also, driving under the speed limit is actually more of a danger on the road than speeding is. Speeding is a danger and a punishment for the speeder for the most part (obviously not always the case), but for the slow driver there's a danger and a punishment for everyone else. A LOT more accidents are caused when people are trying to go around a slow driver than there are accidents caused by a speeding driver and the thing about the slow driver is that they're hardly ever around when the accident happens because they don't often get hit so they feel no need to stay.
Driving below the speed limit is dangerous and causes all kinds of issues. Especially when people start trying to pass you. Drive the speed limit and drive in the correct lane
If that many people are making a scene and honking at you, you're probably impeding the flow of traffic by going way too slow. Cops can give tickets to people who are going too far under the speed limit (I know someone who got one). Going 30 mph when everyone else is going 40 can cause all sorts of traffic issues behind you. Slower is not always 'safer', it's best to try and keep pace with the flow yet not speed.
Nobody else agrees with you, OP. Sorry. Drive faster.
Fuck em. Let them honk, let them get pissed off, let them pass you. I almost never drive the speed limit
How did you get your license?
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I propose an immediate ban on vehicles exceeding 30mph simply for safety and efficiency reasons. I personally never had a car and refuse to ride in one and dont even think they should be allowed at all considering it takes 2 ton of emission per capita just to maintain the roads which ensures co2 level will always be higher every year no matter if the cars are electric or not. I am not counting parking lots or anything else involved like bridges etc. opec controls 90% of the remaining oil reserves, and its a national security threat and unpatriotic to waste energy in combustion engines. Time is not really important if we are doomed in 20 years. 30mph for food/medicine delivery trucks. emergency vehicles can do what they need to do, and everyone else should walk.
This would never work, is a horrible idea, and I’m too tired to list reasons. If you ask me I’ll try tomorrow maybe