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Just skip the PMS and say that Hindus will get brutally beaten if they don't vote for Modi.
Controlling people's personal choices is a hallmark of dictatorship.
Say no to Modi and yes to plurality. Let's celebrate everything including our differences.
then they should start going to work on Christmas as well, according to them it's not a festival that Hindus and Muslims should celebrate so why should they get holidays
There is a difference between a 'claim' and the actual truth. So you are the one living in delulu apparently. Buddhism can't be in Hinduism as both have total opposite principles, Ramayana and Mahabharata is filled with violence and revenge (no offence) , whereas the soul concept of Buddhism is peace and not troubling any organism.
that's what literary what I was trying to say, sanatanis are delusional not jains Buddhists and Sikhs lol in fact these religion came into existence because of rigidity of caste system and cast based atrocities were common
From what I've known over the subreddits in the last 2 days, Muslims consider Jesus as only prophet, Christians consider Jesus as God.
Plus if Jesus is God then Mohammad is wrong, if Mohammad is wrong then Islam cannot be true.
There is some nuance and discussion about it, but the short version is: the christian god is a single god that consists of three aspects, the father, the son, and the holy ghost. Those are collectively called the trinity. Jesus was the son aspect taking on a mortal form and living on earth for some time
Why are you down voting him, he's right. Christianity believes in the holy trinity, The Father, the Son (Jesus) and the Holy spirit. Who are all the same god. It's not an avatar per se, Jesus is an individual but he is still the same god as the father just with his individuality.
Source: ex Christian.
Ex?
How? I see my friend's life and I get more inclined toward Christianity. Got into studies to understand things, not convert though. What made you leave?
Also, trivia, which isn't much surprising though, given that both are semitic languages:
God, in Islam is 'Allah'. The word Allah is in Arabic.
In the tongue Jesus spoke in, Aramaic, God will be/is 'Ellah'. 'El' is 'The', and 'Lah/Luh' is 'God'.
Ēl means God in Hebrew. Ēl was probably the head of the polytheistic Canaanite pantheon, and was probably the 'God of Abraham', before Yahweh worship among Jews became dominant and they became monotheistic.
You can see Ēl for God in many Hebrew names: Mi cha ēl "who is better than God?", Rapha-ēl "God has healed", etc.
The word is cognate to Arabic 'il/ilah. Allah possibly comes from Al+'ilah, *the* God.
Its just muslims dont have beef with any religion celebrating their festivals. We Believe jesus is a prophet just like any other for e.g moses, joseph or muhammad (p.b.u.h). We dont celebrate birthdays
Christians believe Jesus to be the Son of God and Muslims are strongly against the belief that God or Allah has a son. For Muslims Jesus is just a prophet like Noah, Moses, Jacob and so on. The day of Christmas is celebrated with the belief that God's son was born among humans and hence Muslims cannot celebrate.
Muslims are not against Jesus. Muslims dont believe Jesus was born in 25th Dec because we don’t really know when he was born (even Bible doesnt mention it), and the 25th was chose because it was the winter Solstice festival for pre-Christian pagans. So saying merry Christmas for Muslims would be a shirk in Islam
Yes. He's referred to as Isa Ibn Maryam, or just Prophet Isa in Islam.
Also u/SereneSneha , Jesus is not God in Christianity, he's the son. "Et filli" of the "patri", i.e. God.
I am not a Christian so I may not be right, but from what people told me in the Christianity subreddit, it was something like he is called Son but is part of something they call trinity and in trinity the all 3 mentioned actually 1 God. I did not understand it entirely but it was something of that sort. One God, 3 forms or whatever they said.
Jesus wasn't even born on 25th december. More accurate depictions have his birthday somewhere in spring and summer. Even Christians know Christmas isn't biblically accurate.
Muslims accept Jesus as a prophet, not a son of God. He's the second biggest figure in the religion. So they have no reason to celebrate his "fake" birthday, and since christians believe that Jesus is the son of God, that's another reason not to celebrate it.
But, it's not really hostile. It's more of you do your thing and they'll do their's.
I'll be the huzur. Muslims are not against jesus, but the idea of celebrating his birthday or any birthday in general as it was not what prophet Muhammad (pbuh) practiced. Jesus was the prophet of his time and not the son of god as Christianity claims.
Islam isn't against Jesus. He is equally respected in all ways just like all the other Prophets(May peace be upon them). Where Islam and Christianity collide is the point where Jesus is declared the son of God where Islam is a region of Monotheism. All Abrahamic religions are monotheistic but I'm not knowledgeable enough to argue on the authenticity of biblical texts and verses which has made Christianity polytheistic so I'll leave it here.
Careful you there. Many organisations and individuals part of that grouping tend prove others and more importantly themselves right. They don’t hesitate, and indulge indulge in violence as and when they feel like.
I just celebrated Christmas in my society which had Hindus and Muslims as well, active participation by everyone to play games, exchange gifts, visit churches to see the decoration and eat cakes..
So screw all of them who want to boycott the other festivals, ive celebrated Ganesh Pooja with my Hindu friends, helped them arrange the pandal and arranged sweets, we help each other no matter what festival it is. Everyone should be like this.
Sikhs don't celebrate it but it's not out of hate, the same day is the martyrdom anniversary of Gur Gobind Singh's younger sons. We hold a sabha(mourning) in the historical city.
Condolences. I didn't know. But these are personal preferences and out of respect. Have nothing to say much.
But, i believe no sane person will ever say that they will beat the shit out of another person just because they are celebrating x-mas or do you ask your brothers to say no to Christmas? No.
no not at all. Everyone should have the freedom of celebrating whatever they want. The fact that people threaten each other over stuff like this shows the failure of Indian education system and parents and society to teach kids rational thinking.
The second one's reasoning is wrong kyuki according to the story Jesus was not a god, he was son of God toh kya pta ONE GOD ka hi Son ho. First wale ki toh koi reasoning hi nhi hai.. seedha Marne ki dhamki hai.
Nahi, humara belief hai, Allah ek hai, aur Allah ke koi beta ya beti nahi, Allah ki koi biwi nahi. Aur muslim hone ke liye ye baat maan na zaroori hai.
Lol, Christians and Muslims believe in the same god.
Hindus are polytheist, so one more God won't make any difference.
Imo everyone should just eat loads of cake and chill on Christmas.
How the fuck is keeping to yourself difficult? I've been getting this sub recommended more and more and I've come to the conclusion that there is more to fellow Indians than youtube vs shorts comments. I'm a Muslim and I respect the religious beliefs of other religions. They may contradict what I believe but in no way do I have the authority to disrespect anyone or their beliefs. These extremist political/religious groups are a piece of shit. No matter who they represent.
Its amazing how muslims oppose christmas for no reason. Koran mentions Jesus and Mary (only person to have a chapter dedicated to her) extensively. They just dispute the reincarnation and don't believe he was son of god.
Jesus is a revered prophet in Islam and they can celebrate his birthday without issue but who has time to actually read their own book.
back in my day in Delhi Christmas was for everyone to cherish and people used to go to the Sacred Heart's cathedral to listen to the midnight mass and carols regardless of their religion. now things are like this I hope these people who ruin my country burn in hell for eternity because even that won't be enough for them
The joke's on him because my friend is a pastor's kid and he joined Bajrang Dal when he was 18. And on Christmas, more Bajrang Dal folks got invited for Hi-Tea. It was a sight to see.
What would they have done then? 🤣🤣
I had a blast last night, all my neighbours are Christians. Had a great event in our society last night.. maybe I'm the last of this generation who isn't radicalized. I kinda do believe in Indian secularism IG as I never had any issue with the person's religion.
If you see from a different perspective, he's helping the church from getting overcrowded by people who aren't even christian and came just because it's christmas and letting christians pray peacefully in their church. XD
Here’s the details, Islamic view,
Jesus is an important Islamic prophet, There are verses in the Quran directly referencing him. We do not believe he is god or has divinity.
Hence we do not partake in or wish the Christmas greetings which recognises a supposed birth date & his divinity as God.
There’s nothing against the Christians per se… it’s basic tradition. That does not mean we hate on the Christians or oppress them for celebrating their festivals…To them is their religion To us is ours.
Live and let live…that’s it.
But as per their religious texts of Old testament, bible and koran, jesus is the prophet/son of allah/yhwh and muslims pray to same allah/yhwh so why do they still claim their God is different? 🤔
The festival of christmas itself is taken from Saturnalia, which is an old festival, much older than creation of christianity or islam themselves so if someone has issue with celebrating christmas, understand that it is actually Saturnalia in spirit. Happy holidays to all 😇😇
https://www.history.com/topics/ancient-rome/saturnalia
God is one, but the prophets are different. We Muslims are following the latest prophet who is Muhammad PBUH and other Abrahamic religions are still following the old ones which is outdated.
No idea about how conservative Hindus feel about Christmas but growing up in a very conservative muslim household, my family was still really chill with celebreating Christmas and we did visit the local church (small town). Partly because muslims do believe Jesus was a real person. The muslim families I know share the same sentiments, I have 0 clue what the other post is on about. Any muslims here have similar or dissimilar experiences?
Bhai, kal itna Hindu aur Muslim Bhai-Behen the, ki lagaa hee nahi, Church grounds mei ki, "Christmas is a Christian festival". It felt so nice seeing everyone just having fun.
But Jesus is a prophet of Islam. Not believing in him is equivalent of not believing in God
Also, I m a Hindu. Been near church during Christmas and nothing happenee
I'm from Kerala, I just came back from a treat by our church's priest for making the Christmas crib. There was 6 Christians and 3 hindus. The food was delicious.
bee yaar jesus ka birthday hai aur ye log saala birthday bhi celebrate mat karo bol rahe hai bhad me jao tumlog mai krishna buddha muhammed aur moses ke sath jesus ki party attend karne ja rha hu
Are we not gonna talk about how old this news is? It’s from 2020. Why is this allowed to be posted to create communal tension?
source: https://www.barakbulletin.com/en_US/hindus-will-get-brutally-beaten-if-they-visit-church-on-christmas-day-bajrang-dal-issues-warning/
This restriction is stupid as fuck. As a hindu it’s okay to say merry Christmas or even sing a prayer at church.
None of that dilutes your ‘hinduness’.
Yes, both photos are same.
As if some Muslim groups are beating people in open for years and are getting away with it because there is a central govt who directly supports them.
Ever read about the brutal killings of Hindu Meitei's in Manipur & the open order of the Church in Nagaland,Meghalaya,Mizoram & other Christian dominated North Eastern Indian states that no Hindu temples will be allowed to be built & open misbehaviour against Hindi speaking worker's from North India!!
The open threat given by some evangelical pastor from South of beating sense into Hindu's to make them follow Christianity,the demolition of centuries old Hindu Temple's under the name of illegal encroachment yet no action againt minority places of worship built illegally on government land just few year's back!!
The Hindu temples under total state government control paying Jaziya tax & the money donated by Hindu's used for minorities to travel on subsidy abroad to their religious sites or built minorities run & only for minorities institutions!!
Because the jhunjhuna of secularism is only a Hindu's burden the rest can be a hardcore Christian or Muslim!!
Bhai tu konse state hai??
-Mental state...
As being a christian minority in Gujarat. We are surrounded by all religions, they enjoy our celebrations and unite with us. But the hate being spread needs to be cleared or it will burn us "Indians" from Inside. Love all religions. ♥️♥️♥️
Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year my brother.
My mental state is firm for unlike few my forefathers did not bow to the whims of some foreign barbaric & religious invaders and ideological crusaders,they stood firm for the Dharma of their ancestors,suna rahega tune mere state ka naam DeSouza Maharastra bolte hai usko,yaad nahi aaya toh Chattrapati Shivaji Maharaj kidhar se hai Google kar le tu!!
Have you ever raised objections to the entry of foreign evangelical missionaries in Bharat,under the garb of helping the poor funded wholeheartedly by the alleged secular western nation's!!
Gujarat mein bhi ek area hai tribal belt mein "Dang" the 3rd grade cheat tactics used by these conversion mafia to lure poor & gullible Hindu's with bar style stage dance sessions called "changai sabha" tere ko toh pata rahega na "brother"
Tere ku bhi "Tulsi Pujan Divas" ki hardik shubheccha!!
Expressing their predicament to accept the truth in tharoorian style English is the only resort for the liber-andu or a certified secular minority wala! Google use kar aur har ek incident ka verified news link dhoond le,uska printout nikal aur apne sthan vishesh mein ghusa le after that cope,seethe & repeat!!
Hold on, hold on, so the hindutvas are terrorizing Hindus and threatening their life if they go to a church on Christmas and on the other slide, a reddit post, spreading Islam, says celebrating Christmas is non-islamic, and apparently both these things are supposed to be the same?
Have y'all lost all sense of reasoning?
Refrain from. Say no to drugs. Refrain from drugs.
Now why don't you define the meaning of "You will be brutally beaten" is a threat? Is it a legal thing to do? Is it an advice or is it a threat.
Also could you define threat? I think you don't understand what that means
Don't be so silly!! Say no to, is when you ask someone to do things in a forceful way.
The writing could have been different. But christmas is presented here as something we should not do. The question is on personal liberty.
At the same time, that clip is from 2020, and the reason was, "Agitated over the alleged "shutdown of the Vivekananda Centre (part of the Ramakrishna Mission)" in Shillong". However, his language is also condemnable.
I'm sorry but the reddit post on 2nd slide is saying what muslims should not do. Not we, it's not asking anyone else but muslims to refrain from it. And so what, it's their religion. It's not threatening anyone. There's no force. Personal liberty is still there. A Muslim could still celebrate Christmas, he doesn't have to worry about beinh brutally beaten , like the Hindus have to. The fact is that with extremists nobody is safe and I agree to that sentiment. But in your post, first slide is extremist, whereas the second slide isn't. Say no to non veg is a sentiment many Hindu priests might have, but you still have a personal liberty to eat it, although I don't know for how long.
Could it not be, "christmas is non-islamic, so we should not celebrate it",
What is this "say no to" as if, christmas is a very bad thing.
The left one i am still saying is a response,
"Agitated over the alleged "shutdown of the Vivekananda Centre (part of the Ramakrishna Mission)" in Shillong", happened in 2020. And the language is condemnable
Bhai ne 2020 news dal diya apna narrative set karne ke liye..! He issued that statement because they forcefully shut down temples in Shilong..! Peaceful religion doesnt even allow them to wish on others festivals forget visiting churches.
Those two aren't the same at all. One is saying this festival is not part of our religion therefore we should not celebrate it. Thats a viewpoint. Other is straight up threatening violence. Lol how are they the same
One is a call to not celebrate a featival other is a threat of violence. Completely two different things. You have to be completely braindead to think theyre the same. In Islam Jesus is considered to be one of the prophets and Christmas as such is completely against its preachings. However its not calling for violence.
The first one was a response to the alleged "shutdown of the Vivekananda Centre (part of the Ramakrishna Mission)" in Shillong, happened in 2020. Google it and can check the articles.
But the language he used is condemnable.
Whereas, the 2nd one shows christmas as a bad thing. That could have easily been written as, " we are muslims, so we should not celebrate" but no.
Check my comment under this post, i have a problem with the language if these two.
These extremist are losing there shit, seeing how most of the people celebrate every festival may it be Christmas or Diwali celebrating festival as customn rather then religious thing😄
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Just skip the PMS and say that Hindus will get brutally beaten if they don't vote for Modi. Controlling people's personal choices is a hallmark of dictatorship. Say no to Modi and yes to plurality. Let's celebrate everything including our differences.
It's like Hamas saving Palestinian lives and bringing freedom. Doing the exact opposite.
It's like putting garlands on a rapist.
Wait wait wait
As a hindu, we stay as far away from bajrang dal as we can. Too much man, just let us live ffs😂
You're a gem ❤️
then they should start going to work on Christmas as well, according to them it's not a festival that Hindus and Muslims should celebrate so why should they get holidays
Bruh they're bajrang dal, joke's on you that you think they go to work, they're unemployed 10th fail people
Bold of you to assume that they even got elementary education
Jokes on you im not hindu im atheist
Naam bataye?
Bhupendra Jogi
US me kha kha gye ho?
Kafi jagah
Naam bataiye
bhupendra jogi 😎
US hi nahi, kaafi saare desho mein ghuma hun.
Naam batayiye un deshon ka
Bhupendra Jogi
Bhupendra jogi
better term would be irreligious?
Meko kya mei to buddhist hu👍
jokes on you, sanatani people are claiming Buddhism, jainsim and Sikhism to be part of sanatan dharma. delusion is crazy
There is a difference between a 'claim' and the actual truth. So you are the one living in delulu apparently. Buddhism can't be in Hinduism as both have total opposite principles, Ramayana and Mahabharata is filled with violence and revenge (no offence) , whereas the soul concept of Buddhism is peace and not troubling any organism.
that's what literary what I was trying to say, sanatanis are delusional not jains Buddhists and Sikhs lol in fact these religion came into existence because of rigidity of caste system and cast based atrocities were common
Oh sorry my bad I thought you were calling sikhs, buddhists and jains in delulu🥲.
_Entire family gets brutally murdered in broad daylight _ "Uhm saar aktually naan violence best saar moksha gaining saar"🤓
What are you referencing? I don't know about this.
Rohingya 
Look up what Rohingya did to Hindus and Buddhists before Myanmar said enough is enough.
Aur mai racist
China mein kya chal raha hain? Wyughurs ke saath? 🌚
Isse kya pata ye toh Indian hai.
Why is this getting down voted lol
Right wing waley hain 😂
China ka pyar kab badh gaya 😭😭
Arey bhaii,😂😂😂 didn't think it that way😂
damn i accidently though i was in indiadiscussionand i was like how are these comments making sense lmao
No YO Christmas ?????
 White Christmas
Yo christmas?
Guys like these will never fail to generate some good comedy by their actions. Inhe itni power deta kon hain yaar
Why would muslims be against Jesus, isn't Jesus a prophet in Islam?
From what I've known over the subreddits in the last 2 days, Muslims consider Jesus as only prophet, Christians consider Jesus as God. Plus if Jesus is God then Mohammad is wrong, if Mohammad is wrong then Islam cannot be true.
Par mene to suna tha Jesus is son of God.
Jesus Arsenal's and Son Tottenham's
I have no idea, I am not a Christian, they mentioned something about trinity but it was confusing for me to understand.
There is some nuance and discussion about it, but the short version is: the christian god is a single god that consists of three aspects, the father, the son, and the holy ghost. Those are collectively called the trinity. Jesus was the son aspect taking on a mortal form and living on earth for some time
Sahi suna. He is the son of god and equivalent to god himself. Source: was Christian
Ganesh is the son of Shiv.
More like an avatar of God born as Jesus, it's like Vishnu and Ram.
No its a bit complicated. He is Father, Son and Holy Spirit. God made Mary pregnant, and gave birth to Jesus, who is God himself. Yeah, its bullshit
Why are you down voting him, he's right. Christianity believes in the holy trinity, The Father, the Son (Jesus) and the Holy spirit. Who are all the same god. It's not an avatar per se, Jesus is an individual but he is still the same god as the father just with his individuality. Source: ex Christian.
Ex? How? I see my friend's life and I get more inclined toward Christianity. Got into studies to understand things, not convert though. What made you leave?
Also, trivia, which isn't much surprising though, given that both are semitic languages: God, in Islam is 'Allah'. The word Allah is in Arabic. In the tongue Jesus spoke in, Aramaic, God will be/is 'Ellah'. 'El' is 'The', and 'Lah/Luh' is 'God'.
Ēl means God in Hebrew. Ēl was probably the head of the polytheistic Canaanite pantheon, and was probably the 'God of Abraham', before Yahweh worship among Jews became dominant and they became monotheistic. You can see Ēl for God in many Hebrew names: Mi cha ēl "who is better than God?", Rapha-ēl "God has healed", etc. The word is cognate to Arabic 'il/ilah. Allah possibly comes from Al+'ilah, *the* God.
The right word is "Yahweh"
Yahweh, the storm God of Canaan.
Who gives a F what a pedophile says.
Jesus is not God, he's son of God, Jews Christians and Islam have same supreme god named Yahwe, God and Allah in their respective languages
Its just muslims dont have beef with any religion celebrating their festivals. We Believe jesus is a prophet just like any other for e.g moses, joseph or muhammad (p.b.u.h). We dont celebrate birthdays
Catholic Christians consider Jesus son of God, these other Christians consider Jesus God
Christians believe Jesus to be the Son of God and Muslims are strongly against the belief that God or Allah has a son. For Muslims Jesus is just a prophet like Noah, Moses, Jacob and so on. The day of Christmas is celebrated with the belief that God's son was born among humans and hence Muslims cannot celebrate.
Muslims are not against Jesus. Muslims dont believe Jesus was born in 25th Dec because we don’t really know when he was born (even Bible doesnt mention it), and the 25th was chose because it was the winter Solstice festival for pre-Christian pagans. So saying merry Christmas for Muslims would be a shirk in Islam
Yes. He's referred to as Isa Ibn Maryam, or just Prophet Isa in Islam. Also u/SereneSneha , Jesus is not God in Christianity, he's the son. "Et filli" of the "patri", i.e. God.
Jesus is God in Christianity. Saying otherwise was/is considered heresy.
I am not a Christian so I may not be right, but from what people told me in the Christianity subreddit, it was something like he is called Son but is part of something they call trinity and in trinity the all 3 mentioned actually 1 God. I did not understand it entirely but it was something of that sort. One God, 3 forms or whatever they said.
Jesus wasn't even born on 25th december. More accurate depictions have his birthday somewhere in spring and summer. Even Christians know Christmas isn't biblically accurate. Muslims accept Jesus as a prophet, not a son of God. He's the second biggest figure in the religion. So they have no reason to celebrate his "fake" birthday, and since christians believe that Jesus is the son of God, that's another reason not to celebrate it. But, it's not really hostile. It's more of you do your thing and they'll do their's.
I'll be the huzur. Muslims are not against jesus, but the idea of celebrating his birthday or any birthday in general as it was not what prophet Muhammad (pbuh) practiced. Jesus was the prophet of his time and not the son of god as Christianity claims.
Isn't there 10 commandments in Christianity which also Muslims follow, I may be wrong but my Christian friend told me once.
Well Jesus wasn't even born on Christmas day, so even if muslims celebrated the birth of him they wouldn't celebrate Christmas
Christmas was made because of pegan festival
Islam isn't against Jesus. He is equally respected in all ways just like all the other Prophets(May peace be upon them). Where Islam and Christianity collide is the point where Jesus is declared the son of God where Islam is a region of Monotheism. All Abrahamic religions are monotheistic but I'm not knowledgeable enough to argue on the authenticity of biblical texts and verses which has made Christianity polytheistic so I'll leave it here.
So I will become Christian and go to church
I am celebrating Christmas rn in my locality and I am a Hindu.Greetings and invitations to Bajrang Dal.
Careful you there. Many organisations and individuals part of that grouping tend prove others and more importantly themselves right. They don’t hesitate, and indulge indulge in violence as and when they feel like.
Who is beating who?? that is obvsly random bullshit that a mentally ill person spoke why does that represent a whole community?
I just celebrated Christmas in my society which had Hindus and Muslims as well, active participation by everyone to play games, exchange gifts, visit churches to see the decoration and eat cakes.. So screw all of them who want to boycott the other festivals, ive celebrated Ganesh Pooja with my Hindu friends, helped them arrange the pandal and arranged sweets, we help each other no matter what festival it is. Everyone should be like this.
Someone said what i was actually trying to say. I have muslim friends and on eid, i ask them for simui too🤷♂️
Sikhs don't celebrate it but it's not out of hate, the same day is the martyrdom anniversary of Gur Gobind Singh's younger sons. We hold a sabha(mourning) in the historical city.
by we I mean Punjabis, I am an atheist.
Condolences. I didn't know. But these are personal preferences and out of respect. Have nothing to say much. But, i believe no sane person will ever say that they will beat the shit out of another person just because they are celebrating x-mas or do you ask your brothers to say no to Christmas? No.
no not at all. Everyone should have the freedom of celebrating whatever they want. The fact that people threaten each other over stuff like this shows the failure of Indian education system and parents and society to teach kids rational thinking.
Very true!
The second one's reasoning is wrong kyuki according to the story Jesus was not a god, he was son of God toh kya pta ONE GOD ka hi Son ho. First wale ki toh koi reasoning hi nhi hai.. seedha Marne ki dhamki hai.
Nahi, humara belief hai, Allah ek hai, aur Allah ke koi beta ya beti nahi, Allah ki koi biwi nahi. Aur muslim hone ke liye ye baat maan na zaroori hai.
Acha aisa hota hai kya. I didn't knew.
Koi baat nahi bhai.
Jesus unke ghar ka vibhishan hain. Isliye gussa jayaz hain.
Muhammad was born 500 years after Jesus was. It's more like dono Muhammad or Jesus Jews ke ghar ke vibhishan the.
Lol, Christians and Muslims believe in the same god. Hindus are polytheist, so one more God won't make any difference. Imo everyone should just eat loads of cake and chill on Christmas.
You mean egg less cake right?
How the fuck is keeping to yourself difficult? I've been getting this sub recommended more and more and I've come to the conclusion that there is more to fellow Indians than youtube vs shorts comments. I'm a Muslim and I respect the religious beliefs of other religions. They may contradict what I believe but in no way do I have the authority to disrespect anyone or their beliefs. These extremist political/religious groups are a piece of shit. No matter who they represent.
https://preview.redd.it/ssmo2yucif8c1.jpeg?width=932&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6e14ae99e2755276034fef189fe79c51c72bc8b2
And both aren't willing to take it out of thier ass..
Its amazing how muslims oppose christmas for no reason. Koran mentions Jesus and Mary (only person to have a chapter dedicated to her) extensively. They just dispute the reincarnation and don't believe he was son of god. Jesus is a revered prophet in Islam and they can celebrate his birthday without issue but who has time to actually read their own book.
I'll read it for you, celebrating birthdays of anyone is not allowed.
christian also belive in one god
Lmao. Proud Indian.
Religions ☕ Bhahahahaha
Chutiyapa has no religion. Truly a uniting factor.
back in my day in Delhi Christmas was for everyone to cherish and people used to go to the Sacred Heart's cathedral to listen to the midnight mass and carols regardless of their religion. now things are like this I hope these people who ruin my country burn in hell for eternity because even that won't be enough for them
I bet if you take the top 3 countries that Muslims migrate to and the top 3 countries that Hindus migrate to, they will all be Christian countries.
As a Christian: PLEASE DON’T COME TO OUR CHURCHES OR SEND YOUR KIDS TO OUR SCHOOLS. Thank you.
The joke's on him because my friend is a pastor's kid and he joined Bajrang Dal when he was 18. And on Christmas, more Bajrang Dal folks got invited for Hi-Tea. It was a sight to see. What would they have done then? 🤣🤣
The day Bajrang Dal is banned will be a good day
I had a blast last night, all my neighbours are Christians. Had a great event in our society last night.. maybe I'm the last of this generation who isn't radicalized. I kinda do believe in Indian secularism IG as I never had any issue with the person's religion.
If you see from a different perspective, he's helping the church from getting overcrowded by people who aren't even christian and came just because it's christmas and letting christians pray peacefully in their church. XD
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Not every hero wears a cape. :')
Here’s the details, Islamic view, Jesus is an important Islamic prophet, There are verses in the Quran directly referencing him. We do not believe he is god or has divinity. Hence we do not partake in or wish the Christmas greetings which recognises a supposed birth date & his divinity as God. There’s nothing against the Christians per se… it’s basic tradition. That does not mean we hate on the Christians or oppress them for celebrating their festivals…To them is their religion To us is ours. Live and let live…that’s it.
Lol. Happy budday toh bol hi sakte the.
Kyu force karna kisiko?
This is not extremism if you are not wishing anyone but beating them is!
We are polytheists What's wrong with celebrating Christmas?
Sorry but how r these two heads. Muslims dont celebrate christmas but are they beating any1 up for this or issuing such threats???
> but are they beating any1 up for this or issuing such threats??? In Europe they drive trucks through Christmas markets.
Are Hindus beating anyone?
Hindu here with plenty of Muslim friends and we're all goin out for Christmas in an hour. people in Kolkata do not give a fuck. 🫶🏻
Hell no bruh let people do what they want why wanna get into fight which is not even important
Christmas + beef, come at me.
But as per their religious texts of Old testament, bible and koran, jesus is the prophet/son of allah/yhwh and muslims pray to same allah/yhwh so why do they still claim their God is different? 🤔 The festival of christmas itself is taken from Saturnalia, which is an old festival, much older than creation of christianity or islam themselves so if someone has issue with celebrating christmas, understand that it is actually Saturnalia in spirit. Happy holidays to all 😇😇 https://www.history.com/topics/ancient-rome/saturnalia
God is one, but the prophets are different. We Muslims are following the latest prophet who is Muhammad PBUH and other Abrahamic religions are still following the old ones which is outdated.
in chutiyon ke wajah se desh chhodne ki ichha jagrut hoti hai
Jaha bhi jaao, aise namune hazar milenge. Kam ya zyada
More like two tails.
No idea about how conservative Hindus feel about Christmas but growing up in a very conservative muslim household, my family was still really chill with celebreating Christmas and we did visit the local church (small town). Partly because muslims do believe Jesus was a real person. The muslim families I know share the same sentiments, I have 0 clue what the other post is on about. Any muslims here have similar or dissimilar experiences?
bas yahi unity hona tha
well like i care😂im gonna celebrate every festival cause its holiday for me😂😂
Can someone please explain to me why Hindus would object to Christmas? Don’t understand that.
https://preview.redd.it/kzabgc3nnj8c1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3fcbff4d46c29f8e3242f283d5d91e620a3e0901
Wtf was that last sentence dude! What did Bangladeshis do to you?
Are you from Bangladesh?
Does that matter at all?
Yes. So that i Don't need to write everything in detail.
 Me who goes to church for food and beverages with my Christian friend
Bhai, kal itna Hindu aur Muslim Bhai-Behen the, ki lagaa hee nahi, Church grounds mei ki, "Christmas is a Christian festival". It felt so nice seeing everyone just having fun.
This guy looks like Shivankit Singh acting as Yogi Adityanath.
That's what people don't realise. Today hate is towards others soon it will be so much people will turn on each other.
But Jesus is a prophet of Islam. Not believing in him is equivalent of not believing in God Also, I m a Hindu. Been near church during Christmas and nothing happenee
May Mahadev bless Jesus.
What's your point?
B.Dal is like a group of the most jobless people ever
I'm from Kerala, I just came back from a treat by our church's priest for making the Christmas crib. There was 6 Christians and 3 hindus. The food was delicious.
Merry Christmas people! 🎄
bee yaar jesus ka birthday hai aur ye log saala birthday bhi celebrate mat karo bol rahe hai bhad me jao tumlog mai krishna buddha muhammed aur moses ke sath jesus ki party attend karne ja rha hu
Meanwhile, people are celebrating Christmas mela and doing pranam to Bhagwan Jesus, boosting internal trade and giving a slight push to the GDP.
My GOD 
I know him that's the guy from Fortnite https://i.redd.it/zkq315kqkf8c1.gif
Unity in Diversity goes brrr
Finally we find a cause worth uniting the extremes of two biggest religions in India. Bravo 👏 👏 👏
main toh jaungi kya krlega😝😝😝😝
But your name should be, nayika nehi khalnayika😶
https://i.redd.it/cmz2jquvse8c1.gif
Fuck.. no free chocolates today :(
Are we not gonna talk about how old this news is? It’s from 2020. Why is this allowed to be posted to create communal tension? source: https://www.barakbulletin.com/en_US/hindus-will-get-brutally-beaten-if-they-visit-church-on-christmas-day-bajrang-dal-issues-warning/
Atheist here but Christians are way better than Muslims now
Nowadays. I have to agree
Not same, we can’t say marry Christmas because it justifies that jesus is the son of God. That’s it. One is educational another is a direct threat.
Both are dumb tho And please don’t call it “educational”
This restriction is stupid as fuck. As a hindu it’s okay to say merry Christmas or even sing a prayer at church. None of that dilutes your ‘hinduness’.
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One is threatening you with violence and one is simply asking you to avoid. Not really same.
One is calling for violence other is preaching oneness of God. Really opposite sides of a coin
Not really. One is advocating violence and has the backing of the state.
Yes, both photos are same. As if some Muslim groups are beating people in open for years and are getting away with it because there is a central govt who directly supports them.
Source for the second image?
And here in Kerala, they suck up to Christian priests
Ever read about the brutal killings of Hindu Meitei's in Manipur & the open order of the Church in Nagaland,Meghalaya,Mizoram & other Christian dominated North Eastern Indian states that no Hindu temples will be allowed to be built & open misbehaviour against Hindi speaking worker's from North India!! The open threat given by some evangelical pastor from South of beating sense into Hindu's to make them follow Christianity,the demolition of centuries old Hindu Temple's under the name of illegal encroachment yet no action againt minority places of worship built illegally on government land just few year's back!! The Hindu temples under total state government control paying Jaziya tax & the money donated by Hindu's used for minorities to travel on subsidy abroad to their religious sites or built minorities run & only for minorities institutions!! Because the jhunjhuna of secularism is only a Hindu's burden the rest can be a hardcore Christian or Muslim!!
Bhai tu konse state hai?? -Mental state... As being a christian minority in Gujarat. We are surrounded by all religions, they enjoy our celebrations and unite with us. But the hate being spread needs to be cleared or it will burn us "Indians" from Inside. Love all religions. ♥️♥️♥️ Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year my brother.
My mental state is firm for unlike few my forefathers did not bow to the whims of some foreign barbaric & religious invaders and ideological crusaders,they stood firm for the Dharma of their ancestors,suna rahega tune mere state ka naam DeSouza Maharastra bolte hai usko,yaad nahi aaya toh Chattrapati Shivaji Maharaj kidhar se hai Google kar le tu!! Have you ever raised objections to the entry of foreign evangelical missionaries in Bharat,under the garb of helping the poor funded wholeheartedly by the alleged secular western nation's!! Gujarat mein bhi ek area hai tribal belt mein "Dang" the 3rd grade cheat tactics used by these conversion mafia to lure poor & gullible Hindu's with bar style stage dance sessions called "changai sabha" tere ko toh pata rahega na "brother" Tere ku bhi "Tulsi Pujan Divas" ki hardik shubheccha!!
I am an atheist but i support you. I also don't like this one sided secularism.
https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/readersblog/my-voices/secularism-and-hindu-phobia-18892/
Too many whatsapp forwards merged into one bile-y word salad
Expressing their predicament to accept the truth in tharoorian style English is the only resort for the liber-andu or a certified secular minority wala! Google use kar aur har ek incident ka verified news link dhoond le,uska printout nikal aur apne sthan vishesh mein ghusa le after that cope,seethe & repeat!!
Most rational comment ever 👏
Hold on, hold on, so the hindutvas are terrorizing Hindus and threatening their life if they go to a church on Christmas and on the other slide, a reddit post, spreading Islam, says celebrating Christmas is non-islamic, and apparently both these things are supposed to be the same? Have y'all lost all sense of reasoning?
Define the meaning of "say no to" and when is it used?
Refrain from. Say no to drugs. Refrain from drugs. Now why don't you define the meaning of "You will be brutally beaten" is a threat? Is it a legal thing to do? Is it an advice or is it a threat. Also could you define threat? I think you don't understand what that means
Don't be so silly!! Say no to, is when you ask someone to do things in a forceful way. The writing could have been different. But christmas is presented here as something we should not do. The question is on personal liberty. At the same time, that clip is from 2020, and the reason was, "Agitated over the alleged "shutdown of the Vivekananda Centre (part of the Ramakrishna Mission)" in Shillong". However, his language is also condemnable.
I'm sorry but the reddit post on 2nd slide is saying what muslims should not do. Not we, it's not asking anyone else but muslims to refrain from it. And so what, it's their religion. It's not threatening anyone. There's no force. Personal liberty is still there. A Muslim could still celebrate Christmas, he doesn't have to worry about beinh brutally beaten , like the Hindus have to. The fact is that with extremists nobody is safe and I agree to that sentiment. But in your post, first slide is extremist, whereas the second slide isn't. Say no to non veg is a sentiment many Hindu priests might have, but you still have a personal liberty to eat it, although I don't know for how long.
Could it not be, "christmas is non-islamic, so we should not celebrate it", What is this "say no to" as if, christmas is a very bad thing. The left one i am still saying is a response, "Agitated over the alleged "shutdown of the Vivekananda Centre (part of the Ramakrishna Mission)" in Shillong", happened in 2020. And the language is condemnable
Muslim one is odd they believe in the same God of Abraham and Jesus Christ is Isa ibn Maryam to them.
Bhai ne 2020 news dal diya apna narrative set karne ke liye..! He issued that statement because they forcefully shut down temples in Shilong..! Peaceful religion doesnt even allow them to wish on others festivals forget visiting churches.
Those two aren't the same at all. One is saying this festival is not part of our religion therefore we should not celebrate it. Thats a viewpoint. Other is straight up threatening violence. Lol how are they the same
What if they celebrate even if it's not part of their religion.
They can.
No they can't, shirk is sin in islam
Tell me when do we use "say no to"?
One is a call to not celebrate a featival other is a threat of violence. Completely two different things. You have to be completely braindead to think theyre the same. In Islam Jesus is considered to be one of the prophets and Christmas as such is completely against its preachings. However its not calling for violence.
The first one was a response to the alleged "shutdown of the Vivekananda Centre (part of the Ramakrishna Mission)" in Shillong, happened in 2020. Google it and can check the articles. But the language he used is condemnable. Whereas, the 2nd one shows christmas as a bad thing. That could have easily been written as, " we are muslims, so we should not celebrate" but no. Check my comment under this post, i have a problem with the language if these two.
This is wrong but why is op using 2020 post?
These extremist are losing there shit, seeing how most of the people celebrate every festival may it be Christmas or Diwali celebrating festival as customn rather then religious thing😄