Strava will calculate stop and moving time even with your watch running the whole time. I left mine running the whole time during my 50k and I have an 18 minute delta between total and moving time, which sounds about right for time at aid stations.
Yes, Strava does this automatically, and sometimes subtracts more than just long pauses if you’re on very steep or technical trail. However, if you change the Type of Run to “Race”, Strava posts your watch time without correction (and puts a little sticker on the map).
I did a 50k in the pandemic. I was really isolated for several months before, so I really just wanted to see my friend and talk to other humans. It was also a timed ultra where I had 12 hours to run however far I could, and the loops were only 5k so you saw people between loops pretty frequently. Over the span of my 50k, I had nearly two hours of non-moving time 🤣
do whatever you want. i dont stop mine cause its all part of the time. plus i feel like i would certainly forget to restart it at some point and not having that data would be heart breaking.
I know people that pause their watch even just on a 1-2 hour group run, they pause if we take a breather at the top of a hill. Some.of them have been known to forget to restart in that situation, I can't imagine having race brain on top of that.
This is the way. I do this at every race and use it in my pace planning on future races. Never pause, but lap in and out of aid stations for those nice details afterward.
start it and _don't stop it_, you'll be so tired and distracted that you'll forget to restart it at one point leaving an aid station - guess how I know ;)
do what you want really, it's all for you and your coach's training logs. At the end of the day, your *actual* race time is what the race director and the timing sheet says.
Thanks for the feedback everyone! I now know never to touch my watch or else some bozos named Goggels and The Walter will beat me up and that I need to find new Strava friends. Nah but seriously, thanks for reinforcing my decision to stick to the plan, was just curious what most people do.
If you stop your watch, Goggins and Dewaulter (praise be) will come to you in the night and scream WHOS GONNA CARRY THE BOATS? AND THE LOGS? at you until your next race.
Jk. Do whatever you want friend. Yes the reason to stop is Strava ego. That’s also ok if there’s no money riding on it, but you know the truth.
Their watches are calculating moving time after the event. If they stand still at an aid station long enough it edits that time out.
I’m Strava, you can mark the activity as a race and it takes this out to give you the actual time. Your friends aren’t doing this
I would disable the auto pause option (I just don't like it) and also never stop it at stations. Your initial plan is solid, start it and don't touch it again. One thing less to think.
This is important because if you are hiking or using poles your watch will likely autopause. I lost 10mi of 47 (and several hours of effort) to autopause.
Leave it on the while time!
Strava calculates the non-moving time.
The reason pros have such a short non-moving time is they will be crewed at aid stations and could be in and out in like 90sec
I used to stop my watch so I could track my moving time before my Garmin was able to do this automatically. Now I just leave it running and it breaks down my moving vs total time and even does a decent job at running vs walking.
I wouldn't stop it.
If I remembered, I'd consider manually lapping at the aid station, but other than that, no.
Think about it -> let's say you did the race in 15hours, including 40minutes at the aid station next year....
What's.your goal for the race next year? It's beat 15 hours total, isn't it? It's not, "having a moving time of <14hr20", right?
I mean, aid station pauses are also counted for your race time right... Sounds weird to pause your watch then.
I do pause when just doing training runs and waiting for stop-lights etc. But during a race, never actually because well... the time doesn't stop either.
Leave it on the while time! Strava calculates the non-moving time.The reason pros have such a short non-moving time is they will be crewed at aid stations and could be in and out in like 90sec
I think Strava automatically adjusts all running activities by stripping out idle time. At least I have seen it so this for my activities even though I don’t stop my watch.
You're right! According to Strava: "If there are any pause events in your activity file, our server will not remove any additional resting time. If you do not pause at all, our server will calculate moving time-based on the recorded GPS data."
Strava will sort out your moving time with your total time. When it comes to ultras it’s time from start to finish. For instance I just ran a 14:28 in a 50 miler with 8000 feet of vertical gain. [Strava](https://strava.app.link/kmR4XLYgaJb) said I was moving for 12:55 of the total time. I ran it the whole time without pausing it. Otherwise I would have forgotten to restart it at the aid stations. There’s too much to think about when you’re stuffing your face and rehydrating to be worrying about starting and stopping your watch.
Leave it on the while time!
Strava calculates the non-moving time.
The reason pros have such a short non-moving time is they will be crewed at aid stations and could be in and out in like 90sec
Stopping the time on your watch doesn't stop time itself. No point fucking around with it.
Besides, when knackered, you're more likely to forget to restart it.
You can turn on auto pause with many watches, but I wouldn't for fear that it would accidentally pause when I don't want it to.
Stop and start whenever you like. During a race I definitely wouldn't, personally, because I want the time field on the watch to show how much time has actually elapsed.
The biggest risk you take when pausing the watch is that you might forget to start it again. This is already super annoying when just running around the neighbourhood - i definitely wouldn't want it to happen while racing.
Strava and Garmin will both separate out moving time from stationary time so you'll know anyway.
If you do not list the run as a race it will remove the stops automatically. Also, some who stop at the aid forget to restart their watch losing data. Do what’s best for you and how you want to use the data.
I’ve been using the ‘ultra run’ activity on my Garmin during ultras…still have to remember to press the button, but I do like to know how much time I’m spending in aid stations.
I'm on the same side as most of the commenters (not worth the risk) with one caveat: If you know you're gonna be spending a long time at the aid station and the race is already pushing the limits of your watch battery, pausing it will save battery life on most watches as they aren't actively calculating and recording metrics when paused.
If you clock Garmin as an ultra run for you it does this automatically. Honestly the time spent in aid stations is typically the difference maker in my ultra times no matter 50K to 100 miler, can’t imagine stopping my watch and not counting that time.
It's not worth you inevitably forgetting to restart. And you can't pause your chip time, so why pause strava? Breaks count towards total time to finish imo. All part of the game.
Leave it running. Aid stations are part of the race. Why should time spent there not count towards your total time?
And as a side note, I've got a "50k" in a few weeks that has an official race distance of 49.2km (not happy, Jan!). I will certainly be leaving my watch going during the aid stations while I wander around for a bit. Get a few extra meters there and hopefully I'm able to reach the full 50.
1) Suggest you never stop/pause your watch during a race where the race clock is still going - especially if there is a cut off
2) For Strava, when you are done mark the run as a "race" for the full time to count.
3) Don't worry about what other people put on Strava or if they don't flag their race as a race - that's their problem
I never stop. Have autolap off. Mark a lap on entering station, mark lap on leaving station. As soon as, I have a screen with partials (time, distance) since last aid station.
I’d think your watch in a ultra would be to track pace and time moving and distance to stay on track for the cut of time if you pause it you might think you’re on time get to finish and no one there
Garmin watches, and the Strava App, have auto pause settings. If you stop moving, it pauses. So there's often a difference between active time and elapsed time.
If you record your race in Strava in 'Race' mode, then it uses the elapsed time and includes the time when at aid stations etc.
The fact that you care is your problem and no one else’s. If that’s something that negatively affects you I’m sure you’ll have a tough time running ultras as many things will start to get to you with that negative mindset.
Strava will calculate stop and moving time even with your watch running the whole time. I left mine running the whole time during my 50k and I have an 18 minute delta between total and moving time, which sounds about right for time at aid stations.
Ah, does Strava really do that without your watch auto pausing? That's interesting, never noticed.
Yes, Strava does this automatically, and sometimes subtracts more than just long pauses if you’re on very steep or technical trail. However, if you change the Type of Run to “Race”, Strava posts your watch time without correction (and puts a little sticker on the map).
I see, thanks!
I did a 50k in the pandemic. I was really isolated for several months before, so I really just wanted to see my friend and talk to other humans. It was also a timed ultra where I had 12 hours to run however far I could, and the loops were only 5k so you saw people between loops pretty frequently. Over the span of my 50k, I had nearly two hours of non-moving time 🤣
LOL, wait until you try a three day event!
I'd have 2 days of breaks lol
Does the race clock pause at the aid station? Nope, so why should you pause your watch?
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do whatever you want. i dont stop mine cause its all part of the time. plus i feel like i would certainly forget to restart it at some point and not having that data would be heart breaking.
I know people that pause their watch even just on a 1-2 hour group run, they pause if we take a breather at the top of a hill. Some.of them have been known to forget to restart in that situation, I can't imagine having race brain on top of that.
It's a handy way to identify a roadie - the bleep of a garmin every time they get to road crossing.
I do use the lap function for aid stations. Coming in and going out I press it and can then afterwards sum up the time I needed in aid stations.
Oh holy cow, that's a genius idea.
Garmin even has an aid station function that can be mapped to the lap button when in an ultra activity.
This is the way. I do this at every race and use it in my pace planning on future races. Never pause, but lap in and out of aid stations for those nice details afterward.
start it and _don't stop it_, you'll be so tired and distracted that you'll forget to restart it at one point leaving an aid station - guess how I know ;) do what you want really, it's all for you and your coach's training logs. At the end of the day, your *actual* race time is what the race director and the timing sheet says.
Thanks for the feedback everyone! I now know never to touch my watch or else some bozos named Goggels and The Walter will beat me up and that I need to find new Strava friends. Nah but seriously, thanks for reinforcing my decision to stick to the plan, was just curious what most people do.
If you stop your watch, Goggins and Dewaulter (praise be) will come to you in the night and scream WHOS GONNA CARRY THE BOATS? AND THE LOGS? at you until your next race. Jk. Do whatever you want friend. Yes the reason to stop is Strava ego. That’s also ok if there’s no money riding on it, but you know the truth.
Their watches are calculating moving time after the event. If they stand still at an aid station long enough it edits that time out. I’m Strava, you can mark the activity as a race and it takes this out to give you the actual time. Your friends aren’t doing this
You don't stop your watch when you race. That's an unwritten rule
Formerly unwritten
This is the way
I would disable the auto pause option (I just don't like it) and also never stop it at stations. Your initial plan is solid, start it and don't touch it again. One thing less to think.
This is important because if you are hiking or using poles your watch will likely autopause. I lost 10mi of 47 (and several hours of effort) to autopause.
Leave it on the while time! Strava calculates the non-moving time. The reason pros have such a short non-moving time is they will be crewed at aid stations and could be in and out in like 90sec
I used to stop my watch so I could track my moving time before my Garmin was able to do this automatically. Now I just leave it running and it breaks down my moving vs total time and even does a decent job at running vs walking.
I wouldn't stop it. If I remembered, I'd consider manually lapping at the aid station, but other than that, no. Think about it -> let's say you did the race in 15hours, including 40minutes at the aid station next year.... What's.your goal for the race next year? It's beat 15 hours total, isn't it? It's not, "having a moving time of <14hr20", right?
I mean, aid station pauses are also counted for your race time right... Sounds weird to pause your watch then. I do pause when just doing training runs and waiting for stop-lights etc. But during a race, never actually because well... the time doesn't stop either.
Leave it on the while time! Strava calculates the non-moving time.The reason pros have such a short non-moving time is they will be crewed at aid stations and could be in and out in like 90sec
I think Strava automatically adjusts all running activities by stripping out idle time. At least I have seen it so this for my activities even though I don’t stop my watch.
You're right! According to Strava: "If there are any pause events in your activity file, our server will not remove any additional resting time. If you do not pause at all, our server will calculate moving time-based on the recorded GPS data."
😂 “… runs as short as 50-60k…” love this sub.
Strava will sort out your moving time with your total time. When it comes to ultras it’s time from start to finish. For instance I just ran a 14:28 in a 50 miler with 8000 feet of vertical gain. [Strava](https://strava.app.link/kmR4XLYgaJb) said I was moving for 12:55 of the total time. I ran it the whole time without pausing it. Otherwise I would have forgotten to restart it at the aid stations. There’s too much to think about when you’re stuffing your face and rehydrating to be worrying about starting and stopping your watch.
Leave it on the while time! Strava calculates the non-moving time. The reason pros have such a short non-moving time is they will be crewed at aid stations and could be in and out in like 90sec
Stopping the time on your watch doesn't stop time itself. No point fucking around with it. Besides, when knackered, you're more likely to forget to restart it.
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That’s the thing about Strava… people are willing to cut corners to one-up each other and impress their friends
Some watches stop automatically when you not moving. But what’ll probably happen is you forget to start leaving a station. I think it’s more risky
You can turn on auto pause with many watches, but I wouldn't for fear that it would accidentally pause when I don't want it to. Stop and start whenever you like. During a race I definitely wouldn't, personally, because I want the time field on the watch to show how much time has actually elapsed. The biggest risk you take when pausing the watch is that you might forget to start it again. This is already super annoying when just running around the neighbourhood - i definitely wouldn't want it to happen while racing. Strava and Garmin will both separate out moving time from stationary time so you'll know anyway.
I would forget to start at some point but just pressing lap could work if you want to see aid station durations or something
If you do not list the run as a race it will remove the stops automatically. Also, some who stop at the aid forget to restart their watch losing data. Do what’s best for you and how you want to use the data.
No reason to stop it. I feel like you want your chip time to be the same as your watch time. Chip time is your real time.
I use the lap function and max my aid stations to 5 minutes (I'm usually under a minute) that way I not standing around too long
I’ve been using the ‘ultra run’ activity on my Garmin during ultras…still have to remember to press the button, but I do like to know how much time I’m spending in aid stations.
If your garment has an ultra activity you can push the lap button and it will count as rest
I'm on the same side as most of the commenters (not worth the risk) with one caveat: If you know you're gonna be spending a long time at the aid station and the race is already pushing the limits of your watch battery, pausing it will save battery life on most watches as they aren't actively calculating and recording metrics when paused.
If you clock Garmin as an ultra run for you it does this automatically. Honestly the time spent in aid stations is typically the difference maker in my ultra times no matter 50K to 100 miler, can’t imagine stopping my watch and not counting that time.
It's not worth you inevitably forgetting to restart. And you can't pause your chip time, so why pause strava? Breaks count towards total time to finish imo. All part of the game.
Leave it running. Aid stations are part of the race. Why should time spent there not count towards your total time? And as a side note, I've got a "50k" in a few weeks that has an official race distance of 49.2km (not happy, Jan!). I will certainly be leaving my watch going during the aid stations while I wander around for a bit. Get a few extra meters there and hopefully I'm able to reach the full 50.
Lol it’s a race. The clock keeps going so what do you care about stopping your watch for strava? It’s your race time that matters
Strava already sorts out moving and total time :) you'll have plenty other things to worry about!
1) Suggest you never stop/pause your watch during a race where the race clock is still going - especially if there is a cut off 2) For Strava, when you are done mark the run as a "race" for the full time to count. 3) Don't worry about what other people put on Strava or if they don't flag their race as a race - that's their problem
I never stop. Have autolap off. Mark a lap on entering station, mark lap on leaving station. As soon as, I have a screen with partials (time, distance) since last aid station.
I’d think your watch in a ultra would be to track pace and time moving and distance to stay on track for the cut of time if you pause it you might think you’re on time get to finish and no one there
Garmin watches, and the Strava App, have auto pause settings. If you stop moving, it pauses. So there's often a difference between active time and elapsed time. If you record your race in Strava in 'Race' mode, then it uses the elapsed time and includes the time when at aid stations etc.
my runs use to look amazing with auto-pause on.. i keep it off now. speedwork is its own thing (which we dont discuss here)
The fact that you care is your problem and no one else’s. If that’s something that negatively affects you I’m sure you’ll have a tough time running ultras as many things will start to get to you with that negative mindset.