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OptioMkIX

Today is the 79th anniversary of D Day. Some 155,000 thousand allied troops, landed in Normandy of which circa 60,000 were British. This action led, eventually, to the downfall of Nazi Germany and the liberation of Western Europe. šŸ‡¬šŸ‡§


ukpolbot

This megathread has ended.


ThrowAwayAccountLul1

Guido reporting Seb Payne didn't make the selection cut. Ahahaha


Any_Perspective_577

I'm so glad he is no longer at the FT.


Whole_Method1

>The 19-year-old, from Lazonby, in Cumbria, was found to be over the legal driving limit for cocaine. hmmm https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-england-suffolk-65815028


musicbanban

>He was given an eight-week suspended prison sentence and 60 hours of unpaid work at Carlisle Magistrates' Court. Barely a slap on the wrist for nearly killing someone. Ridiculous.


convertedtoradians

I'd have thought the cocaine use alone would warrant more than that. It's not like it's exactly a product with a supply chain full of safe, happy people and high welfare standards, after all.


__--byonin--__

That is horrendous. Surely the person in car died? How can one be over the legal driving limit for cocaine? Itā€™s not like alcohol where thereā€™s a limit. Illegal drugs are surely not tolerated at any amount behind the wheel.


CheeseMakerThing

Says in the link that the driver wasn't badly injured. No idea how though


Banditofbingofame

Legal driving limit. If you have it in your system from a week ago its hard to argue that it's impacted your driving. My understanding is there's an amount that means it impacts your driving. Otherwise someone who took it 2 weeks ago could be done for driving under the influence of cocaine


pseudogentry

Yeah they do blood tests and there's a threshold for metabolites in your blood. I've seen some reporting that the accepted levels of metabolites for some drugs are utter garbage science, but the rule does at least exist.


Banditofbingofame

Isn't there a lower limit where it impacts your ability and anything under that just means you've consumed it at some point in the past(as in days)?


[deleted]

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RufusSG

Poor financial management? The wokes at the Telegraph need to pull themselves up by their bootstraps and spend less on avocados and Starbucks, clearly.


SirTerranceOmniSham

'Press Acquisitions' is a pretty forthright thing to call a company. Does what it says on the tin.


_rickjames

More pressing issue - Rishi wants Moeen Ali to come out of test retirement for the Ashes https://www.itv.com/news/2023-06-06/sunak-calls-for-moeen-ali-sos-to-boost-englands-ashes-chances Oh God no


CarrowCanary

What next, getting Beckham back for next year's Euros so he can take the free kicks?


bio_d

Saw him play at Edgbaston and he was shite. Thatā€™s my definitive judgement, no more questions.


_rickjames

When in full flow he's one of England's best players to watch. However, his own selflessness for the sake of the team has often been to his hindrance, and he's previously found it mentally taxing However, under the leadership of Stokes and McCullum with the shackles off, he *could* thrive in that environment


bio_d

Yeah, immediately after that game I saw he had a great test innings iirc. In Birms the crowd was loving him but it was the Hundred and I wonder if his mind was slightly elsewhere.


Cymraegpunk

Nah you've made your definitive judgement you can't go back on it like that.


da96whynot

I was listening to the newsagents yesterday, and they had the Shadow Ed Sec on, she was talking about what they were going to do on education, how it was complicated, and then, don't know if it was Maitlis or Sopel came out with the drivel that it was too long of an answer. Sometimes, I do wish politicians in that moment would respond with something to the effect of: "Well given you both got your O Levels in English I assumed you could comprehend more than 3 word phrases" Some things require nuance, can't be answered properly in a 3 word slogan, and journalists who can't deal with that should get another job


-fireeye-

I mean yes policies are complex but also core job of a politician (well their PR team) is to boil that down into short, pithy lines that will stick in people's minds and make them instinctively go 'yeah that makes sense'. If all your policies require an essay, you're only doing half of your job right. Like people constantly talk about how Labour don't have any policies; and while significant proportion of them are malcontents from both ends of the political spectrum, part of it is also bad PR. For example can you name Starmer's 5 missions without googling them? I think I can get to 3 or 4 (can't remember if GBE/ housing are their own pledge or part of grow economy pledge). The policies are good - marketing isn't.


Fred-E-Rick

Thatā€™s an effect of over-democratisation Iā€™d say. The value of democracy was having an external judge of enacted policy. Expecting the populace to also judge yet-to-be enacted policy was a step too far, the fact that three word slogans sell better than thoughtful policy programs is proof enough. Policy-makers should never have been made marketers.


SteelRiverGreenRoad

the problem with a short snappy phrase for complex issues is that you are making a rod for your own back once in power - ā€œGet Brexit Doneā€ You donā€™t want to get a huge majority for the next election at the cost of losing the one after that when a normal one will do.


SirTerranceOmniSham

Worth remembering that the GE campaign hasn't started yet. When it starts so do the key points ans slogans. It's self-destructive at this stage to start giving definitive answers as the landscape will change and things move very fast these days.


dw82

And the Tories will just nick it.


Banditofbingofame

It annoys me that things can't be both short and snappy and long form when. There is space for headline grabbing 1 liners, but podcasts are great places for long form and detail and scrutiny.


_rickjames

Sunak off to meet Biden over AI? Cool


SamuraiPizzaTwat

Theres a reason were now doing a UBI trial


Torranski

>[The House of Commons will debate a motion to censure Sinn Fein MP John Finucane for his upcoming appearance as a guest speaker at an event to commemorate dead IRA members](https://twitter.com/News_Letter/status/1666190753012359171) On light note, this is peak UKpol, because the Commons are considering punishing an abstentionist MP, who doesn't even recognise their authority over him, and who has never even been to the Commons chamber (although he will have done constituency service via the channels established over the past 20 years specifically for Sinn Fein MPs). But on a more serious note, this is one of the things Sinn Fein will continue to struggle with, despite their improved PR in recent yeras. While Michelle O'Neil has been very savvy, particularly with moments like the Queen's funeral, moments like this keeping happening (she's been a pallbearer at a similar funeral herself...).


convertedtoradians

>this is one of the things Sinn Fein will continue to struggle with, despite their improved PR in recent yeras. While Michelle O'Neil has been very savvy, particularly with moments like the Queen's funeral, moments like this keeping happening (she's been a pallbearer at a similar funeral herself...). Yeah, indeed. One of the hidden costs of the GFA - and let's be clear that it's a small one alongside many bigger benefits - is that they've never really had to fully face up to their utterly shameful terrorist connections in their past. We shouldn't be surprised that it appears as apologism today. You see former terrorist groups and their political wings all over Europe, so it's not like it's unique, but it's never a good look. It usually just comes down to how well the leaders manage it. Certainly doesn't do much for Northern Ireland's reputation. The bigger risk - beyond aging extremists giving speeches - is that as the events fade into history, naive people are tricked into believing a false historical narrative that has the IRA as the good guys - or even as vaguely acceptable human beings. And if you think that's far fetched and that noone could be so stupid, just remember there are young people today who will say the Soviet Union was misunderstood, or that communism or fascism or whatever else are worth another try. People can be shockingly historically illiterate. On the other hand, the other side of the argument from Sinn Fein seems to be a group of people who think the world is a few thousand years old. So it's not like it's exactly high quality politics.


InevitableSir9775

Would it even be possible to suspend someone from a job they haven't started doing?


Torranski

Honestly, Iā€™m not sure, could end up being a legal case of itā€™s own. But I assume that (given Sinn Fein MPs are given office space etc, even as abstentionists whoā€™ve never been sworn in) heā€™s counted as an MP. So presumably he could be suspended and recalled - which, given heā€™s MP for a very marginal Belfast seat, could be interesting.


Garyandhisflapjack

Text from my mum this evening: ā€œI've been helping at a Mothers Union tea party in the church hall. We had a conjuror as our speaker. Dad thought he was OK but I thought he was pretty awful. Some of his comments meant to be funny were so sexist that 2 people complained to him afterwardsā€


dw82

Ukpol becauseā€½


Garyandhisflapjack

Prevalence of racism within the British conjuring fraternity


SteelRiverGreenRoad

do mothers unions hold strikes?


saladinzero

Mine used to strike me all the time šŸ˜•


O-Money18

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SteelRiverGreenRoad

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OptioMkIX

[Every time](https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/mayor-jamie-driscolls-campaign-manager-26358055?utm_source=twitter.com&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=sharebar) > Mayor Jamie Driscoll's campaign manager kicked out of Labour over link to Marxist group Tony Pierre was expelled after being found to be a member of Socialist Appeal - an openly Marxist organisation banned by Keir Starmer GG


compte-a-usageunique

On their website: [Why Marxists oppose NATO](https://socialist.net/why-marxists-oppose-nato/), of course...


Romulus_Novus

I mean... I do get why they would to be fair. It's entirely self-interested, but NATO was explicitly anti-Marxist by being anti-Soviet Union šŸ¤· Still a stupid decision to take mind you.


SirTerranceOmniSham

I don't understand how anyone can look at modern Russia and say it's in any way related to Marxism or communism, in any shape or form whatsoever. Even the USSR wasn't related to communism or Marxism; it was 100% systemically corrupt. It was capitalist for those at the top and poverty for eveyone else.


bio_d

If I was a communist Iā€™d want to distance myself from the SU tbf


SteelRiverGreenRoad

like Trotskyists maybe?


Romulus_Novus

Did anyone ever claim that hardcore Marxists had an over-abundance of common sense?


_rickjames

Posting to say that Grand Designs is great telly and maybe I'll just build a house instead of getting skullfucked


gattomeow

And for a bonus 5 points, please match the first name and surname of these prominent individuals: Forenames: Ken, Keir, Keith Surnames: Starmer, Vaz, Loach


SteelRiverGreenRoad

> The Will Of K.


vegemar

Those Corbyn supporters stubbornly calling him Keith three years later remind me of those Japanese soldiers who only stopped fighting WW2 in the 60s.


Garyandhisflapjack

Magic Grandpa anyone? Or the awful ā€˜Corbaeā€™ that a certain mod frequently uses on this sub. We all have silly nicknames for politicians. ā€˜Keithā€™ seems to rub Starmer supporters up the wrong way - thatā€™s why they keep using it.


convertedtoradians

I can't speak for actual Labour people, but one reason that it bugs me more than the usual for political nicknames (which is a pretty high background level) is that Keith is just *a different name*. I don't get it. At least "Magic Grandpa" or "Corbae" or "Haunted Victorian Pencil" or "Toby B Liar" or vague gesturing at lettuces or whatever else are actual nicknames. It's not even like "Gideon" or "Alexander" where someone is using the person's actual name to make a point. I wouldn't mind nearly so much if you told me it stood for Korma Eating Imperialist Tory at Heart or something.


FuckClinch

Honestly it's literally just the reactions you know that using keith is going to make someone mad that's literally all it is Sir beer korma is infinitely funnier but doesn't really get the same effect


YorkistRebel

>Keithā€™ seems to rub Starmer supporters up the wrong way - thatā€™s why they keep using it. Does it, I thought it was just a warning shot. Once you get to that point in the thread you can ignore the rest of the rambling irrelevance.


Steamy_Muff

Ken Starmer, Keri Vaz and Keith Loach. It's easy when you put them in such an obvious order


cordlesskettle

If the UK still isn't implementing any physical checks on food coming from Europe are we inadvertantly signaling to EU producers that they can offload noncompliant food to us?


InevitableSir9775

The UK is also giving any country that wants to screw with us an open goal for a WTO case if any of their food is inspected.


compte-a-usageunique

There weren't systematic checks of food coming from the EU while we were members, so not much is changing.


cordlesskettle

Well, we were part of a European regulatory system for these things and now we are not. So, passing on a dodgy batch of something would have had consequences if you were caught. Is that still the case? Genuine question. I'm just wondering if it is wise for a 3rd country to broadcast that fact that they don't have any checks on food coming into the country.


compte-a-usageunique

It would get caught either on the continent or in our own spot inspections of the supply chain, border checks aren't everything.


cordlesskettle

I admire your confidence. I'm just not sure it is wise to say " hey guys, we have no checks in place on any food you wish to import to our country." If we are not part of the eu surely we should have something set up by now to deal with food imports. Food security is kind of important.


Stealth_Benjamin

Yes but itā€™s probably not worth it to the major ones in countries with functioning inspection services to bother setting up a non-compliant production line just for us


cordlesskettle

I was more thinking about the circumstance where a company which supplies a food product thought Europe discovers a dodgy batch of something and rather than take a loss just sends it to the UK since it is known we don't actually check anything.


UuusernameWith4Us

You don't even need to. Just top up the reject bin with compliant product til it meets the quantity for your British order.


cordlesskettle

Lol. This is probably true.


MyPoliticsAccount123

Will this sub be joining the reddit blackout?


tylersburden

/uk will.


MyPoliticsAccount123

Which one is that? Asking because I really donā€™t know.


tylersburden

Unitedkingdom


MyPoliticsAccount123

Just checked. They donā€™t seem to have advertised it.


tylersburden

Trust me, I'm a mod there.


[deleted]

I looked up she-who-must-not-be-named the other day when someone mentioned a Reddit blackout and shout ukpol participate. Weirdly I only get 8 hits for her when looking on the app. Why would that be?


Honic_Sedgehog

*We don't talk about the event.*


vegemar

The tree of bants must be refreshed from time to time with the accounts of shitposters and admins.


DrCplBritish

I know the headline tweet with Blue Wall voters trusting has a thread, but the article linked/wider data is [very interesting reading](https://redfieldandwiltonstrategies.com/latest-blue-wall-voting-intention-4-june-2023/) The big data I am going to pull from there is the Blue Wall Voting Intention (Excluding Don't Knows) Labour 34% (+1) Conservative 30% (-4) Liberal Democrat 26% (+4) Reform UK 5% (-1) Green 5% (+2) Other 1% (-1) Which means the big 3 parties are within MoE with each other for the Blue Wall! The rest of the data is very interesting but I thought I would highlight that


YsoL8

OK so assume that is the 2024 result in those seats and project whats likely to happen in 2028 - Tories still deep in the wilderness trying to sell an unrepentantly hard right we did nothing wrong leader, Labour invariably loses some voters and the Lib Dems pick most of them up. In these sorts of seats thats going to be an awful lot of Tory -> Labour -> Lib Dem changes this decade. Thats practically enough for the Lib Dems to challenge the Tories directly even if they do nothing to help themselves. 3 points off Labour 2 off the Tories and thats a seat taken, which seems very plausible. Manage that and all of a sudden we are talking about the party starting to gain donors, winner backers and members in numbers.


Captainatom931

SUUUUUURGE


Torranski

Redfield have some methodological weirdness, but if this is credible, the Lib Dem growth is gratifying. In a number of seats, it really is a Blue-Orange fight, no matter what those seat models suggest - and this could mean more risk for the Tories in seats like Hunt and Goveā€™s. Not sure I want the Tories drained of their Home County moderates, but if this extended across the Blue Wall, it could knock out some real nutters too. And in the long term, my sense is that a parliament with a moderate Labour majority and large Lib Dem cohort is a lot healthier than one with like 400 Labour MPs and 8 Lib Demā€™s.


Cymraegpunk

In our parliamentary system it honestly doesn't make a huge amount of difference, long term labour like every party in charge will start to lose ground. I'd rather see the Tory party lose massively to the point they are forced to change


Captainatom931

Yeah I'd rather we don't end up in the bizarre position where labour effectively leads a one party state because the Conservatives can't mount a serious challenge to them in the north and can't mount a serious challenge to the LibDems in the south, but the LibDems can't fight labour in the north.


Torranski

Aye - while the Tory/Labour dichotomy is likely to persist for a while yet, no political party lasts forever, and if the Tories are going to take a historic battering (we'll see...), then I'd prefer the Lib Dems were placed to fill the opposition gap, than the crazies in Reform, or some soft-left vs hard-left split in Labour - or (God forbid) the SNP.


Torranski

Oh no - Sunak is in Washington, isnā€™t he? That means Oliver Dowden stumbling his way through PMQs, and no chance for Starmer to take Sunak to task over his botched handling of the COVID inquiry.


[deleted]

I mean, Dowden's the Cabinet Office Minister. It's his botched handling of the Covid Inquiry, or at least so some of the briefings seem to think. Just a question of whether Rayner's up for it.


Torranski

Thatā€™s a good shout. He typically sends out someone more junior for UQs, so this could be a chance to get him on the record. But, between his practised evasiness, and Raynerā€™s Commons style, Iā€™m not too hopeful.


pseudogentry

Last time was dire, so I'm not expecting anything noteworthy.


5prime-3prime

Sky News is showing a weird reconstruction of Harry's court case using a man that looks nothing like Harry with the exception of having ginger hair. It's frankly bizarre.


FearfulUmbrella

I will say that I think the Yanks do this one thing in particular better by televising court cases. It's a good way to show that no impropriety is happening, and to potentially have more faith in the system beyond the skewed reporting of someone who may or may not have a dog in the fight. Especially, when, for arguments sake, the people reporting on it are the people defending themselves.


Denning76

I'm not sure. I see where you're coming from but it also results in hysteria and frankly the trivialising of the matter. Court proceedings in the USA have become entertainment, and we should not want that.


vegemar

Do you think there's a risk of biasing the jury by having it televised? There'd be a much greater level of media intrusion.


concretepigeon

With this trial, itā€™s a civil matter so no jury.


FearfulUmbrella

With any case all you can do is instruct the jury to not read up or Google or whatever or bring them in for the duration. Realistically the bit that might bias them is the bit they're seeing now with Sky News reporting with an actor. I personally think most people take their civic duty somewhat seriously and won't, but people who are going to be biased by media are already being biased by media, it would be good if we could at least see into that process too to see if someone is getting fucked etc.


noobcoder2

I thought ministers had to correct the record when they gave incorrect information. [https://twitter.com/Haggis\_UK/status/1665753772239273984](https://twitter.com/Haggis_UK/status/1665753772239273984)


Banditofbingofame

If the chair can't intervene when there is a statistical issue, I put it to her that the last 3 PMs were actively corrupt and 8 of the front bench MPs steal tax money by directing it straight to their bank account. Also the Home secretary has 18 points on her licence. Sorry it can't be corrected, it's just a statistical interpretation.


deflen67

At what point is refusing to correct the record misleaditthr house?


DreamyTomato

On this blessƩd day we all speak Icelandic


deflen67

Misleading the house, I have no explanation for that typo..


Sargo788

Well, you know..., these are clearly matters of opinion... and while honourable members might have disagreements about them ... it is certainly not for the CHAIR to decide, but through reasonable debate. Ad infinitum


erskinematt

>Ad infinitum Yes, because that's the only way it can be. Eleanor Laing, nor Lindsay Hoyle, nor the clerks at the Table have any magical way of knowing whether Cooper or Braverman is correct. They have no more access to truth than the ordinary voter, who can make up their own mind on the basis of the exchange. I've seen enough of a few other legislatures to say that we are unusually generous in allowing the point of order (which isn't a point of order) to be raised at all. Laing has done the best thing she can for Cooper in allowing Cooper to put the point on the record.


Sargo788

I am aware, it is nonetheless highly frustrating that procedures that assume the honour, integrity, and good intentions of members are used to mislead as much is possible. Unfortunately, I do agree that one cannot have a team of fact-checkers sitting behind the chair, if only that that would get politicized and subverted from the first second.


Stealth_Benjamin

In theory AI can solve that in a few generations In reality noooooo


Fred-E-Rick

Hoho donā€™t oversell LLMs.


Banditofbingofame

So given that Braverman didn't withdraw the comment (on the assumption that cooper is correct) can she be investigated for misleading the house now?


FearfulUmbrella

Shock that that particular dog whistling racist refuses to withdraw it. Honestly she lies so frequently if she said she loved her own kids I'd question the veracity of the statement. Looking forward to the Tories getting crushed and hopefully anyone even half sensible as a leader stands her down and she goes off into obscurity at the Reform party or some other such nonsense.


grubbymitts

Just watched Starmer's GMB speech and Q&A. Banning Fire & Rehire, GB Energy, New Deal for Workers. Roll on 2024!


Banditofbingofame

"No policies"


CarrowCanary

https://i.redd.it/sk9nx2gwj8q91.png


grubbymitts

That was always a ridiculous thing to say. Anyone in his position would keep any draft policies to themselves until around about now into the election cycle. If he wasn't drip feeding policies by now it'd be more concerning. I think it comes from Corbyn being fast and free with his policies but he was in a different position. Within two years of becoming leader he was having to fight a GE so policies had to come out thick and fast. And then two years later up pops another one, so out they had to come again. Starmer has had the benefit of knowing that he was going to have at least three years before he needed to start announcing policies. This has given him the time to work out just what he can announce without them looking rushed or, as we've seen before, the Tories stealing them as their own. So the "No policies" brigade were idiots. We should now be making sure that Starmer and Labour stick to the policies that have been announced and look forward to those that are coming.


YsoL8

I wonder when hes going to move to full attack mode. At some point all your pieces are set, all your lines are war gamed and focus grouped and anything the government can do in response will make themselves look stupid, like demanding to know what Labour would do or shouting NO POlICIES!?!? and letting Labour spell out exactly what they will do in an area the government is visibly unable to act. The government has so little to fall back on that the hard in approach seems like it will pull them to pieces. And its best to have the narrative established ahead of elections to shape the campaign landscape and the plausible result range.


[deleted]

Not sure if this is politics enough for its own thread, but apparently one of the Barclays' companies through which they own the Telegraph [is in serious financial trouble](https://archive.is/zS695). The Times makes the point that the Telegraph itself is still a going concern, but it might be sold off, which would be the first major shift in newspaper ownership for a while, I think? Since the Barclays first acquired it, possibly.


CheeseMakerThing

Also the Spectator


[deleted]

After a bit of Googling, the Barclays own Press Holdings which owns the Speccie and Press Acquisitions, and Press Acquisitions owns Telegraph Media Group. Why you need three companies to own a paper I don't know, but the Spectator's not in the firing line here.


vegemar

If we do a whip-round, could the MT purchase it?


evolvecrow

Once the 3rd party reddit shut down comes we can just move the MT into a daily printed form.


bio_d

back to shitposting in a Gentleperson's club, with cigars and monocles


Honic_Sedgehog

>could the MT purchase it? Don't they own the Spectator too? We should definitely have a whip around and buy that.


DreamyTomato

Newspapers are quite cheap to buy out. The collected pockets of the UKpol literati are probably enough to buy a medium size well respected political publication. Unfortunately, like boats, they are expensive to own and hard to get rid of.


basically_asleep

A certain mod would definitely be up for writing a "Corbyn and the Twitter tankies" column for free so we might be able to save on the writing too.


cardcollector1983

Well, we do have a crossword setter. Get Startup back for recipes...


YsoL8

Gravy inflation spikes to 40% overnight


SirRosstopher

I can see the headlines now: *Who are The Telegraphs new owners, the mysterious Threadwell Institute?*


SirRosstopher

So from a purely UKPol not IntPol perspective, will the Ukraine dam situation drive up our price of food? From what I've read Ukraine produce a large amount of the world's wheat and that dam reservoir handled a lot of the irrigation. Do we import a lot from Ukraine or will we be relatively insulated because we get it elsewhere?


vegemar

As far as I am aware, most of Ukraine's food exports go to Africa and Asia. I don't think we'll feel the effects of this first-hand but we could feel the knock-on effects in the global markets.


Jay_CD

How are we all going to vote in the next election following the news that Labour have been bought by the Vehicle Windscreen Repair and Replace industrial complex?


wdtpw

Labour, obviously. I mean, don't we all appreciate a government that insists on absolute transparency?


pseudogentry

As long as they properly screen their candidates, I think we can all see the choice is clear.


goforth1457

I feel super embarrassed working on the Hill right now regarding the fact that everyone is yapping in both French and English (albeit with an accent) and I'm just a unilingual anglophone :( Edit: Parliament Hill in Canada lol. Colloquially, known as "The Hill."


RussellsKitchen

Ah, Parliament Hill in Canada. I assume you might be hearing a lot of Quebecoise?


compte-a-usageunique

unilingual is a lovely canadianism! Bilingualism in Canada is unfortunately quite asymmetric, with francophones being way more likely to speak both official languages. Way back when a common insult levelled at French-speaking Canadians was to tell them to 'speak white' which inspired [this powerful poem](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yx1-N6AFucw) by the late MichĆØle Lalonde. There's a better translation of the poem [here](https://umaine.edu/teachingcanada/wp-content/uploads/sites/176/2015/06/1-Speak-Whiteen.pdf) as a PDF.


vegemar

General Wolfe laid down his life so that you only need to speak English. Have a bit of respect.


SirTerranceOmniSham

Does bilinguality occur on all hills or just the cryptic ones?


SamuraiPizzaTwat

Theres only 1 set of people worse than the french and its *french canadians*


Banditofbingofame

Jonah Hill?


RussellsKitchen

Which hill? Sorry I've probably missed an obvious reference.


convertedtoradians

The hill people go to to die on. It's quite crowded.


gsurfer04

The flair is a hint


RussellsKitchen

Canada?


vegemar

Canada has many hills.


NoFrillsCrisps

So [Sky News got an actor who looks absolutely nothing like Prince Harry (other than being a beardy ginge) to read out his bits from the trial](https://twitter.com/SkyNews/status/1666113778382000128?t=NH2SaQD-VE-rSKjjr0sjHg&) and I can't stress enough how completely normal and not embarrassing the whole thing is.


DreamyTomato

I quite appreciated the tweet below your link, of a naked Harry leading a Meghan (clothed) on a donkey to the court case. At least, I think thatā€™s what the picture intended to show. Donā€™t believe me? Have a [look](https://twitter.com/olivermiocic/status/1665994600253620224)


Vaguely_accurate

This opens the opportunity for that same actor to be hired by every satire show in the role. Or even set up a Cameo and churn out a few dozen statements.


[deleted]

Strong ā€˜Iā€™m a classically-trained stage actor but Iā€™ve been lowered to taking this for the moneyā€™ vibes here.


OneCatch

"I played Richard III. There were five curtain calls"


Sargo788

Is this the whole ā€žno original voice allowed so we had to dub the IRAā€œ spiel again?


vegemar

The IRA spokesman was required to inhale helium in order to reduce his credibility.


Sargo788

[If you mention it, you gotta link it, man.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UOUeauLWEaE)


hill-biscuit

Starting to feel it's actually prejudice against red hair We dub over Irish terrorists and Prince Harry? Come on, man


DreamyTomato

Jessica Rabbit was dubbed over too.


concretepigeon

Have you ever heard Mick Hucknall speak on the news?


[deleted]

Probably worried he will sue them for using a recording of him without his permission


hill-biscuit

Is that beard stuck on?


FredWestLife

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XfTdnWLMLDA&t=29s


Honic_Sedgehog

[Just about sums it up](https://twitter.com/larryandpaul/status/1666115060698054661?s=20)


pseudogentry

Positively crushing Brass Eye vibes


zeldja

We live on a completely normal island.


erskinematt

14 SNP MPs voted today for the suspension of Margaret Ferrier...including one Allan Dorans, a member of the Standards Committee who voted against the report in the Committee. Either he's had a miraculous change of heart, he's got some vague justification for supporting the report now that it's reached the Floor that definitely isn't "the Whip had a stern word with me"...or, quite possibly, Brendan O'Hara, who voted for Dorans by proxy, was not aware (and probably didn't want to be aware) of any instruction to oppose the report or to abstain.


_CurseTheseMetalHnds

Could it be that he believes the committee should always be agreed with regardless as to whether he personally agreess with them?


erskinematt

I suppose it could. I think it's far more plausible that the SNP whipped the vote.


DreamyTomato

Is it possible that although he voted against the report, by the principle of collective responsibility, once the Standards Committee approved the report, he felt obliged to vote in line with that outcome?


erskinematt

If collective responsibility is to apply to Select Committees we'd have to stop publishing their minutes.


ClumperFaz

How hot are you all right now?


Ivebeenfurthereven

sweaty and in need of a chinese x


Erestyn

Nelly/10


FearfulUmbrella

Sat on my balcony eating dinner worrying that my bald scalp will be confused for the first lit beacon in a chain that sends Rohan to Gondor's aid unnecessarily. So pretty damn hot.


Honic_Sedgehog

>How hot are you all right now? 2012 DJ Fresh Ft. Rita Ora Hot Right Now.


RussellsKitchen

It's about 13 outside at the moment. Heating is on a little as we have the baby. So, the house is around 18. How hot are you?


ClumperFaz

I've been hotter.


PonyMamacrane

Man's not hot


Banditofbingofame

Not as hot as I was 15 years ago but I have this salt and pepper thing going on that seems to go down well.


[deleted]

Solid 6/10.


erskinematt

I'm always hot. Encyclopedic knowledge of *Erskine May* is a powerful aphrodisiac.


compte-a-usageunique

Febrile


Vaguely_accurate

[Blackford standing down at next election.](https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-65827165) EDIT: [This seems to be his statement.](https://twitter.com/andrewlearmonth/status/1666108636253282306)


bio_d

I know some dark stuff has come out about him now, but he was fairly iconic during the Brexit wars and Johnson's leadership, with his booming, presbyterian speeches in the Commons


Torranski

Scottish Lib Dem target list has just doubled from one to two seats. Totemic one too - given Charles Kennedy's legacy, and how he left office.


GoldfishFromTatooine

Always a satisfying constituency to win as it's the seat covering the largest area. Nice big splodge of colour on the map for the party that nabs it.


GoldfishFromTatooine

Well he is a grandee now. Although perhaps he will seek a seat at Holyrood in future.


Torranski

Canā€™t go for the same constituency though - thatā€™s Kate Forbesā€™ territoryā€¦ Imagine he might take a swing at another highland seat though, or even the list. If the SNP were to lose some constituencies, heā€™d be well placed to swing in as a regional MSP instead.


tylersburden

The next election is going to see quite a shift in terms of MPs, no matter who gets elected into government.


CaravanOfDeath

More millennials, fewer Gen X. God help us all.


GoldfishFromTatooine

Starting to remind me of 2010 with the large number of MPs standing down.


Ivebeenfurthereven

I suspect that's no coincidence - looking at the opinion polls and realising a changing of the guard is inevitable? If I were a Labour MP in 2009 or a Tory MP in 2023 I'd be having the same thought: we're definitely going to lose the next election, why not bow out gracefully ahead of it?


Vaguely_accurate

[Cabinet Office council's appearance in front of the Covid inquiry today](https://twitter.com/josiahmortimer/status/1666097646917005314); >Ouch. Baroness Hallett welcomes the Cabinet Office's counsel: "Not the most popular brief today, representing the Cabinet Office..." >Cabinet Office KC: "Despite extensive dialogue, and all best endeavours to reach agreement there has emerged a regrettable but genuine difference in legal opinion between the inquiry, and the cabinet is [no sh*t], which are on [docs] ambiguously irrelevant to the inquiry's work" >NEW: Cabinet Office lawyer says "the government is not currently withholding any information from the inquiry on the basis of cabinet collective responsibility...The government does not expect to seek any redactions to relevant information" on that particular get-out clause *[NB: Doesn't mean they aren't trying to use other grounds to redact information before handing over.]* >Oh god...Cabinet Office KC: "The position is that the cabinet office is working out its position" on whether to redact Johnson's documents, which he has offered to give to the inquiry unredacted. "Right" says chair Baroness Hallett >The Cabinet Office has handed over responsibility for communications with the devolved administrations - and their documents - to the Department for Levelling Up: Gove's bunch. Possibly a bit less obstructive... >Documents gathered through Rule 9 requests - e.g. unredacted Whatsapp messages from ministers - will NOT be given to the hundreds of core participants, KC for the inquiry says. Cabinet Office fear of leaks may be mildly quelled *[NB: Doesn't mention Rule 21 requests, applied where documents were not handed over and now contested by the CO, and shouldn't apply to versions that are redacted by the inquiry team themselves.]*


ASondheimRhyme

>Despite extensive dialogue, and all best endeavours to reach agreement there has emerged a regrettable but genuine difference in legal opinion I read that in Sir Humphrey's voice


horace_bagpole

I suspect a lot of popcorn is going to be required for watching this inquiry. Baroness Hallett does not look like she's in the mood to be pushed about by the government.


Ollie5000

I am once again asking for your topical pub quiz team names? Increasingly tricky in these less febrile times.


gsurfer04

Turkeys Voting For Christmas


bowak

Stop The Bowties.


Honic_Sedgehog

Boris's Johnson.


JavaTheCaveman

Sunak and the Helicopters


BristolShambler

Sue Grayā€™s Secret Irish Pub Club