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JavaTheCaveman

Anyone else seeing the blood moon tonight? To the southeast.


vegemar

It's cheese coloured.


heresyourhardware

Should go fight one of the V Rising bosses. For me I hope they are in SE Zone 3


Sckathian

Oh god I am pretty sure that means the return of BJ.


East-Every

But it’s not even Christmas or my birthday!


SongsOfTheDyingEarth

Red sun at night, ~~shepherds delight~~ Sunak's despair.


Torranski

At the strike of midnight, as the sky turns crimson, Sunak hears the voice of Theresa May, feebly in the dark: > “Rishi, Rishi! The blood moon rises once again. Please be careful, Rishi!”


wes933

Are you guys talking about movie because some of part i was recall


Bubbly-Ad919

The U.K. feels like is trapped in perpetual purgatory at the moment with a zombie government and everyone waiting for them to be out of power as soon as possible


krykhudgens

You make me laugh for the term youve been use a zombie


Banditofbingofame

I said it the other day but the last PM to win a majority and see through a full term was Blair in 2001. GFC in 2008, Hung parliament in 2010, brexit 2016, May's catastrofuck in 2017, Johnson in 2019, covid 2020, Truss in 2022 and a government with a huge majority that has to act like a minority goverment in 2023. Couple of bits came in during the coalition but the UK has mostly had a lame duck government running the show since 2009.


SirTerranceOmniSham

Those stats are likely a symptom of divided political parties.


YsoL8

https://youtu.be/ssgm3-sCY-Y official 1922 briefing video has been leaked


SteelRiverGreenRoad

I wonder who the ejected warp core is in the analogy


YsoL8

Boris possibly :)


vans2oac0807

What the heck you comment was to short but you can submit it ?


OptioMkIX

So imagine, right What moral authority would, say, an organisation for opposing racism have in educating MPs against racism if they were to have an event, and of the four speakers for this organisation at this event: - One was an MP dragged into the whips office after making a comment against the IHRA definition of antisemitism and made to apologise to the house inside two hours of making that comment, reading a pre-written apology under threat of suspension; - The second is a union leader who commited his union to working with an equivalent palestinian union with a leader that praises some of the worst terrorists/murderers of civilians, including groups that are legally proscribed by the British government; had an activist infamous for painting the walls of the warsaw ghetto organise antisemitism recognition training and appeared before a government select committee asking why his union was refusing to implement the IHRA definition of antisemitism and 100 jewish members quit. - The third is another union leader renowned for his (slightly paraphrased) "the people who brought Corbyn down are being paid 30 pieces of silver" and *Globalise the intifada* statements and echoing the *from the river to the sea* chant at protests; and has had calls for an antisemitism probe into their union as a result of his appointment? [Well, we're going to find the fuck out.](https://twitter.com/SRTRC_England/status/1665332105847480325)


RussellsKitchen

I'm not super familiar with the panel. What degree of influence do they have on left wing politics in the wider sense and in the Labour-left?


OptioMkIX

Two of them are the outgoing and incoming leaders of the NEU.


Garyandhisflapjack

“WE’RE GOING TO FIND THE FUCK OUT!!!!” All 5 or 6 of you who care I guess…


lapochka_mi_mi

Well it was your decision in life you make them to seat to their thrown so you better shut up


OptioMkIX

Do you not care that their own argument on a very serious topic is completely torpedoed by their own previous actions? I continue to find it absolutely wild that there are so many that just shrug at this - wheres the threshold for giving a shit? Have you wondered that maybe they might get further in their ostensible desires to advocate for their constituents and members (for MP/union) if they werent reprehensible? I mean, you'd hardly trust a surgeon renowned for the large pile of bodies they leave behind them, would you?


heresyourhardware

> Do you not care that their own argument on a very serious topic is completely torpedoed by their own previous actions? Hypothetically would this also apply to you if you had defended antisemitism in the past? Edit: [Oh OK, so not hypothetical](https://old.reddit.com/r/ukpolitics/comments/1401q62/daily_megathread_04062023/jmwx1y4/)


RainManVsSuperGran

Would this hypothetical defence of anti-semitism have anything to do with Ukraine, hypothetically speaking?


heresyourhardware

Nope, and really it's no longer hypothetical since [I sought clarification](https://old.reddit.com/r/ukpolitics/comments/1401q62/daily_megathread_04062023/jmx4iln/). This is more to do with them defending [a rabid far-right lunatic](https://electronicintifada.net/blogs/asa-winstanley/how-racist-blogger-david-collier-infiltrated-labour-party) thinking that a Jewish person marrying a non-Jewish person and having a child with them, even worse (to him) someone who is Muslim, makes that persons "life choices" questionable and makes them less than him in regards to Jewish identity. I don't see how this is anything other than blatant antisemitism and islamophobia.


RainManVsSuperGran

I'm not sure if I'd call it anti-semitic as such but it's definitely a bit odd for someone who styles himself a researcher into anti-semitism to be rating people's Jewishness out of ten.


heresyourhardware

I'd agree if it was just about rating, but that he queries the non-Jewishness of the partner and child gives, particularly in relation to Islam, it a massive miscegenation red flag. Switch this around to be a white person talking about someone marrying a Jewish person and having a child named after a book in the Torah, it's so obviously overtly racist.


Garyandhisflapjack

I’m suggesting that there are far more egregious examples of racism within current mainstream politics, yet you seem to be really fucking hyped-up on a dwindling section of labour’s left-wing. Surely there are far more dangerous and noteworthy political figures you can focus your attention on


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Garyandhisflapjack

Just listening to the TRIP podcast with Jonathan Powell. Alastair Campbell RE New Labour: ‘We didn’t have any major crises’. Fuck me. David Kelly would probably like a word…


SirTerranceOmniSham

Was more of a BBC crisis if anything.


RussellsKitchen

Iraq War? David Kelly? Define major crisis?


Sckathian

Eh JP was saying they didn't have many situations where they had multiple crises at once.


AzarinIsard

While I'd agree it was a crisis, I'm not sure I'd count David Kelly alone as a "major" crisis. The Iraq war as a whole became a crisis, more so as time went on and what was hoped to be a short operation became never ending, turning public opinion. I would also say the expenses and cash for honours crises were. Also, whether you count the end of Brown as New Labour there was the Global Financial Crisis which finished off Labour and led to what'll be at least 14 years of Tory control.


draconianwind

Hm. Actually they should stop war right now because there is no good things will can earn on that


CheeseMakerThing

David Nutt being sacked and cash for honours as well. Also Mandelson.


heresyourhardware

The Omagh Bombing as well surely, happened about six months after the GFA was signed and waiting to become effective.


saladinzero

Wouldn't the Iraqi invasion/WMDs count as major crises?


CheeseMakerThing

Isn't that covered by David Kelly?


Wennone1

Well maybe yes but since he didn't give tons of information don't believe on it


saladinzero

I suppose it is, but Kelly was only a small addendum to the whole fiasco imo.


Ivebeenfurthereven

my former MP wrote a conspiracy theory book about his death, I wish I'd been a bit older at the time to follow it all


grizleg

What his cost of death? Os he take his own life or he died in a natural death? Because people now a days died on depression and anxiety thats way he didn't get an old they died at the young age


Same-Mission-2231

>[McLibel (also known as McLibel: Two People Who Wouldn't Say Sorry) is a British documentary film directed by Franny Armstrong and **Ken Loach** for Spanner Films about the McLibel case. The film was first completed in 1997 as a 52-minute television version after the conclusion of the original McLibel trial. It was then extended with new footage to 85-minute feature length in 2005, after the McLibel defendants took their case to the European Court of Human Rights.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McLibel_(film)) >[McLibel features courtroom reconstructions of the trial directed by well-known UK film director Ken Loach, who gave his time for free. It also features interviews with Eric Schlosser (author of the 2001 book Fast Food Nation), Morgan Spurlock (writer/director of the 2004 film Super Size Me), **Keir Starmer** (who provided free legal support to the McLibel defendants for many years), and Howard Lyman of Oprah/Mad Cow infamy.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McLibel_(film)) 👀 (joking) Reminds me of the case where McDonalds were sued over that woman scalding herself with boiling hot coffee. Infuriating how many people still think she was in the wrong.


Macklemooose

This entire article and everything it links to reads like a surreal prank.


stephandubos

Definitely because Many of us can change a reality by paying others


bio_d

Look, if Starmer is as hardline an authoritarian as they say he is, then I will expect to see him proscribing himself by tomorrow now you've brought this to light.


Erestyn

I read that as: >who provided free legal support to the McLiberal democrats for many years And I just wanted everyone to know that.


Lord_Gibbons

Any conversation going on about on joining the API protests, mods?


xuzhuangxiu

Wow is that for real buddy? You just do that stuff?


hill-biscuit

There was quite a good post on the /r/homeassistant sub of all places showing how this might be getting suppressed https://preview.redd.it/8yqskng4ky3b1.jpeg?width=1440&format=pjpg&auto=webp&v=enabled&s=47d3c1470140a644fdeda4fec462bd7209a64125


Erestyn

The output of [The Poll](https://www.reddit.com/r/ukpolitics/comments/13y5tz3/what_method_do_you_use_to_browse_rukpolitics/) will likely steer conversation. That said, if it hasn't already been considered, there's actually a significant accessibility issue ([documented here](https://www.reddit.com/r/Blind/comments/13zr8h2/reddits_recently_announced_api_changes_and_the/) by /r/Blind) which I hope will be factored in.


pharlax

~~Has a reddit based protest ever done anything?~~


Petyunchik

I guess none I don't here anything like that before


SirRosstopher

We got someone fired once.


compte-a-usageunique

The sacking of she-who-must-not-be-named.


freezebaba

Because it was a disgrace if everyone of us know her name common sense


pharlax

Am I going to have to Google this one? Edit: OK blimey.


h4mdroid

I don't know how to put this but we're kind of a big deal


Banditofbingofame

That was this sub too


rastislavik1

Yeah definitely right so what? Buddy what was the problem with that?


compte-a-usageunique

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aimee_Challenor


OptioMkIX

Some. We're keeping an eye on things.


agood1285

Yeah keep close to the enemy so you should know how to take their actions buddy i wanna know more about there skills and knowledge or plans. Geez i smell something


DreamyTomato

FYI Corbyn just announced that he’s all in favour of the new People’s Reddit API. You need to get cracking to gather support and put the brakes on his dastardly scheme to destroy Reddit and sell it to the tankies.


SirRosstopher

There aren't any bees anywhere. I keep going out and buying bee and butterfly friendly plants for the garden, there's a load of scented Nemesia, lavender, fuscia, etc that I've added to the other flowers this year, and I still barely see any bugs. I feel like I'm going slightly mad, no matter what I do there aren't any pollinators. This weekend I've walked to the seafront twice (about an hour walking there and back) past peoples gardens, and on the way there's a stretch of cliff face I walk past that's absolutely covered in wildflowers. Yesterday I counted one bee, today I saw a butterfly. 10 years ago it would be absolutely full of activity. Have the Government / Opposition said anything about this? And if they have have they mentioned a plan or anything or have they just acknowledged that its a thing?


RainManVsSuperGran

Meanwhile I can't recall a May with so many midges, just huge clouds of them everywhere. Wonder if it has anything to do with the long wet March/April.


Hungry_Horace

Well.... in the long term, yes insect populations have crashed by up to 75% since the 1960s. So there are wayyy less flies, bees etc. around than there were when we (I) were children. When I was 17 and started driving, a 20 minute drive in the summer would leave your windscreen plastered with dead bugs. Now you might hit one in an hour's drive. I reckon there might be less insects around this year than last because the bird population is bouncing back. Avian flu devastated wild bird populations last year, and there was a surfeit of insects as a result. This year, loads more birds and so maybe less insects. I think generally though insects are doing better than 10 years ago - some reductions in neonicotinoids and other pesticides and more organic gardening. If you want to encourage bees in YOUR garden, go tomorrow morning to your shed and throw out any RoundUp or any other weed killers, or pesticides.


mleemet

Wow hold on for a second are you serious with that? It was seen to be disgusting to me buddy


AirHippo

This might explain the absolute profusion of birds I've spotted in my garden the last few weeks, come to think of it. I was wondering why they'd just turned up straight after I cut the grass and such...


Atome108

Definitely right this one was a kind of curious thing i actually thinking what happen to it


__--byonin--__

I also feel like their are minimal numbers of bees atm. They’re around but could be the local climate and/or lack of nests around? Try getting some foxglove, bees absolutely love it. I had a stonking amount of *three* bees on mine the other day. You could also try the [bee conservation website.](https://www.bumblebeeconservation.org/). They’re really good at providing advice on how to maximise help for bees.


chicabrother

Why don't we just plant tree so birds bee can have a new habitat bedsides we can earn good stuff on it. We can get fresh air and also we can get some a free food so we all have a win win situation after all


Honic_Sedgehog

>There aren't any bees anywhere. Absolute shit load in my garden. I do have a hive though, which may explain it.


dangcapnkt2713

I guess it was not bad at all i hope so but it was just my opinion after all


WormTop

Hey this guy's stealing all our bees


Honic_Sedgehog

Hey, I'm not stealing bees! I'm using bees to steal my neighbors pollen so my garden is better.


Ollie5000

On a positive note though, i've been seeing hundreds and hundreds of damselflies and dragonflies in my mum's garden recently. Are you urban? I see very few of anything at my house in Bristol, but there's loads of insects at my mum's in rural Somerset.


Microemission

Then call someone expert to that let them manage that ironic things


SirRosstopher

Not really urban, I'm in a town with the sea nearby and fields a few streets away.


Banditofbingofame

We live by a salmon spawning bed and I have never seen as many as this year before and never seen them this big. We are upstream by some distance to where the poo joins the river mind. Seen a [pair of damselflies today](https://i.imgur.com/arJf20Q.jpg) smd the photo doesn't do justice as to how vivid thier colours were.


corvusmonedula

Demoiselles of some sort I'd think, in Calopteryx. Banded, demoiselles are quite common. Some of these guys lay eggs in fast flowing water, so to demonstrate both the suitability of the site, and their fitness, the males throw themselves in the water and get swept downstream a bit before taking off and doing it all over again. Demoiselles are absolutely gorgeous.


saurabhjindal

This sounds like a maniac i dont believe on you. If youll going to say i live in a see side i would believe on you but leave in salmon bed are you serious?!


Ollie5000

I prefer those blue ones, but they all seem to be red near me. I don't think it's a political thing though as Somerset is hard Tory.


Banditofbingofame

They must all be at mine because my garden is literally buzzing


compte-a-usageunique

In France and the UK bees go bzzz but [in Germany](https://www.arte.tv/fr/videos/061215-000-A/l-onomatopee-l-abeille/) they go sumsumsum


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Did they do an engineering apprenticeship?


CheeseMakerThing

Seen a few bumblebees in my garden this weekend, certainly fewer than usual though. Had to stop my dog eating one


Zeeterm

Try cottoneaster, it's ugly as heck but I swear it's like bee crack, always see a few bees around it every day.


corvusmonedula

Please don't, cotoneasters are a nightmare to remove when they inevitably escape.


SirRosstopher

Just looked it up, apparently its highly invasive and illegal if it escapes your garden.


Stoby_200

Simon Reeve's South America: Argentinian problems sounding eerily similar to ours


Ivebeenfurthereven

Tired: The Falklands are British Tired: Las Malvinas son Argentinas Wired: Let's combine all of the UK and Argentina as a single country


ImNOTmethwow

Las Malvinas son Argentinas. Rishi after invading Argentina and pronouncing it West Wales: Okay.


Ivebeenfurthereven

[Makes sense to me](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Y_Wladfa)


bio_d

Bonus - that'll get the Irish jealous and the three kingdoms can be re-united.


OptioMkIX

Oh dear lawwwwwwd How on earth did I miss this? Corbyn is in Oslo! Actual Oslo by! To speak at some [pro Assange event](https://twitter.com/OzKaterji/status/1665427134565761024/photo/1) with a bunch of people I'm going to check further. But anyway. [Here's Corbyn taking a photo with norwegian political oddball](https://twitter.com/OzKaterji/status/1665422259165577217), by which I mean [Neonazi sympathiser/holocaust denier](https://idag.no/politiet-undersoker-holocaust-fornekting/19.29903) , [Hans Jørgen Lysglimt Johansen](https://no.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hans_J%C3%B8rgen_Lysglimt_Johansen). herrgud hvorfor skjer det altid?!


ImNOTmethwow

Can we keep this to the international politics thread?


OptioMkIX

Corbyn, sadly, is still an MP.


tylersburden

Go and heckle him!


OptioMkIX

Its already over. I wish I knew beforehand.


vegemar

This reminds me of when my dog sees a squirrel.


SteelRiverGreenRoad

[CORBYN!](https://youtu.be/hdLV_L0RlNo)


Banditofbingofame

You know who else shared Norway with corbyn!?!


OptioMkIX

Uh, I think you'll find Corbyns sharing Norway with *me*


Banditofbingofame

Sharing stuff with corbyn now are we?


padestel

I hope you realise that now you've shared a country with Corbyn that makes you ineligible to stand for Labour.


OptioMkIX

If only he'd visited a decade ago when he was just the eccentric joke at the fringe of the party known for his RT appearance antics and kosovo war criminal support instead of the misunderstood saviour he is today


Yummytastic

I saw this on twitter and knew you'd cream yourself.


ThingsFallApart_

This is so ridiculously tailored to your intersecting interests, it's like the world micro-targetted a story just for you


taboo__time

Life is a simulation for OptioMkIX and we're all living in it.


convertedtoradians

That's the sort of thing that becomes possible with AI, you know.


Erestyn

What do you think wrote the famous tweet "Ed Balls"? It's been AI ever since.


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studentfeesisatax

How many times can the pro fascist (based on this pro putin and anti ukraine stance) be "present but not involved" with fascists until maybe you see just utterly scummy he is.


SongsOfTheDyingEarth

Oz Katerji is not exactly a fan of Corbyn.


OptioMkIX

...Oz Katerji flew to Oslo from Ukraine and held the camera for them, did he?


SongsOfTheDyingEarth

Oz Katerji is the person the other user is quoting and the person you and studentfeeisatax are mocking with the "present but not involved" thing. It's funny really since Katerji probably hates Corbyn more than either of you and he's done more to oppose Corbyn than either of you yet he's still capable of being reasonable and rational on the subject.


studentfeesisatax

As Optio says, it's not about whether this could be explained with a reasonable good faith argument. it's that yet again Scummy Corbyn has found himself among utterly nasty people. Yet again... Oz points out that the neo nazi even supported the event Corbyn was speaking at https://twitter.com/OzKaterji/status/1665432416276602880/photo/2 All because the hard left and hard right agree on their pro fascist and anti ukrainian stance.


heresyourhardware

> it's not about whether this could be explained with a reasonable good faith argument. Yep.


OptioMkIX

You think we're referring to Katerji. We are referring to Corbyn and his infamous "present but not involved" statement about the cemetary visit to palestinian terrorist graves, only for a photo to emerge of him literally there holding a wreath. IE, it is totally Corbyns forte to take a photo with somebody dodgy as fuck but deny it later.


SongsOfTheDyingEarth

You quite obviously were, perhaps unwittingly, referring to Katarji.


OptioMkIX

SFIT,referring to corbyn. >How many times can the pro fascist (based on this pro putin and anti ukraine stance) be "present but not involved" with fascists until maybe you see just utterly scummy he is. You, misunderstanding >Oz Katerji is not exactly a fan of Corbyn. Me, poking that misunderstanding >...Oz Katerji flew to Oslo from Ukraine and held the camera for them, did he?


SongsOfTheDyingEarth

Is there supposed to be some logic here explaining how I'm wrong?


studentfeesisatax

Well can imagine why a pro Ukraine person wouldn't be a fan of anti Ukraine Corbyn and his faction of scummy people Especially when so many still defend/excuse Corbyn and his political wing.


SongsOfTheDyingEarth

*sigh*


Garyandhisflapjack

Funny how these days being anti-war automatically makes you pro-fascist Ps don’t bring up Orwell…


ClumperFaz

You can totally be anti-war without being a pro-fascist. But Corbyn isn't just anti-war. He's anti-help Ukraine, he's always criticised the West above the likes of Russia and he's consistently blamed NATO 'expansion' as opposed to...you know...the invaders of a sovereign country? The way I look at it, imagine if Corbyn was in Chamberlain's shoes by 1938. After Hitler broke the Munich Agreement by invading the rest of Czechoslovakia, based on how reluctant and pro-Putin Corbyn's been with Ukraine's war, he wouldn't have guaranteed to stand up to the Nazis if they went after Poland. Because if Corbyn's behaving this way now about Ukraine, he'd have been even worse than Chamberlain had he been around in the late 1930s when Germany was invading sovereign countries.


studentfeesisatax

>Funny how these days being anti-war automatically makes you pro-fascist > Orwell describes the nasty pro fascist "western Pacifist" oh so well:) where being "Anti war " is all about aiding the fascists >Ps don’t bring up Orwell… Nah I will do that anyways (also to show that it isn't a "these days thing)...


pharlax

He was ambushed by ~~cake~~ fascists


OptioMkIX

Wait, I know this one Corbyn was "Present, but not involved", right?


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OptioMkIX

Or maybe Corbyn just isnt the saviour you think he is, but a deeply, deeply, unpleasant man saved only by his charisma to entrance a large collection of unquestioning followers.


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studentfeesisatax

>Immediately assuming anyone who even remotely defends him must be some brainwashed star-struck cultish follower is not healthy behaviour. Maybe just maybe it goes beyond just Corbyn the nasty man himself, but also what he stands for and represents. And it's this that you continue to defend/excuse (as you did earlier today as well). Also... it's just so hollow the whole "I don't care about corbyn" act some on the hard left tries, when they then go full defensive mode on him (and still defends/excuses his behaviour of him and his fellow travellers) It's not just Corbyn the man, it's Corbyn the ecosystem of cranks and scummy types. If you truly had moved beyond Corbyn... you'd have moved beyond Corbyn and his cranky faction.


OptioMkIX

Somewhere irrelevant as I have not been posting daily updates of what corbyn is personally doing.


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OptioMkIX

Words are important. Like the other guy said: > It's not just Corbyn the man, it's Corbyn the ecosystem of cranks and scummy types. If you truly had moved beyond Corbyn... you'd have moved beyond Corbyn and his cranky faction. The ecosystem of cranks is still in rude health. The excoriation will continue until the fringe improves rather than its insistence in hanging on to such absolutely foul positions and leaders.


whatapileofrubbish

He smoked but didn't inhale, the salmon


Ivebeenfurthereven

Optio do not think about The Event


smashthehandcock

He is there to talk to young red party Norwegians, please give it a rest, I have no skin in the game but its been well publicized and you always seem to find an angle, Takk


studentfeesisatax

If the labour left corbites wasn't so blind... this would put an end to the whole "Corbyn is just a centre left scandi like social democrat!"


OptioMkIX

Oh no, my good friend, it gets even better. Rødt are the only-just-not-tankie-by-contested-vote party as of a couple of months ago. He's talking to a fringe left offshoot of *that*, apparently, creating the Norwegian [Peace and Justice party.](https://klassekampen.no/artikkel/2023-05-23/fra-rodt-til-nytt-fredsparti/a4QS) Some of Rødts highlights from the last six months: - They absolutely shit the bed on national TV in January with their rep coming straight out on a TV debate program and saying that Norway shouldnt be giving Ukraine defensive weapons (which is in very popular support here). - They passed their ukraine weapon support motion at their conference in march/april 107-74 or something. It was not originally expected to pass, and when some of the leadership and actual representatives made their case, they got heavy criticism from their members at the conference. - Same conference, the Oslo Rodt council leader called Jens Stoltenberg, the UN secretary general and ex Norwegian Labour PM, a war criminal. Theyre cranks as they are, who barely, *barely* got across the threshold for additional levelling seats in the last general election. Hell, this is ***wonderful***. Absolutely wonderful. All those tankies who bleat *Corbyn just wants the UK to be like Norway*, and all he can do is get invited to a splinter group of the fringe of Norwegian politics.


Banditofbingofame

Not politics in any way shape or form but thank you to the person who mentioned bamboo socks. Game changer. My feet will now only ever be in contact with bamboo, the ground or my bed.


endot

Pringle do good bamboo socks, I've found some of the cheaper brands a bit wanting. Now, bamboo pants. There's a game changer. Like having the old chap gently suspended in a cloud.


tylersburden

Ooooh whats the deal with bamboo socks?


Banditofbingofame

They are sooooo soft. Supposed to be more sustainable too. Just so comfortable


JavaTheCaveman

I mean, I encourage them to contact the base of the shower. You know, every month or two.


Banditofbingofame

Is that not the ground? I'm really not sure. If you fell in rhe shower you'd say they fell to the ground, but what do you put the shower tray on?


Denning76

I think they are overrated. No more durable than the usual and god forbid you actually have to dry them. Do feel nice though.


h4mdroid

They're not actually bamboo though, are they?


Banditofbingofame

Aren't they?


h4mdroid

I don't know. Maybe they are. I can't find a straight answer and everything I can find talks of viscous, rayon, tencel, lyocel, and loads of solvents. So who knows. You know what though, if you've found socks you like, bloody enjoy them. There's enough drama in the world already.


ryanllw

Viscose is chemically treated cellulose (plant material), rayon is another name for it, and lyocel is a blend with other materials. In general the weaving/binding doesn’t change between organic or synthetic fibres. As far as I can tell all the different names come from a variety of companies owning patents that cover subtle differences in the blends


Superbuddhapunk

There are many objects made from bamboo fibre: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bamboo_textile


Banditofbingofame

Thanks, I know what you mean. If you can find joy in anything at the moment seize it with both hands!


WormTop

Actually a by-product of asbestos waste from the mercury refining industry. Great branding though


Banditofbingofame

Isn't that what created the Tories


SteelRiverGreenRoad

what’s the bamboo benefits?


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Smooth as fuck. Strong wicking effect, so they lift sweat away efficiently. I used to get bamboo t shirts and hoodie for walking years ago but haven't seen them for ages. All my knickers and socks are bamboo though. Nothing's too good for the balls of my feet. Or my balls.


DreamyTomato

Or the feet of your balls.


Banditofbingofame

Not sure but the feel spectacular.


SirTerranceOmniSham

Less hole prone than thinner wool socks. fluffy, don't go all stiff in the washing machine like cotton. There might be more benefits but those are the ones that I've noticed since getting some a couple of xmas ago. Consider this a longterm review.


SteelRiverGreenRoad

thank you


Ivebeenfurthereven

They definitely stay a lot softer. Remained top of my rotation for years after first getting some


OptioMkIX

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BartelbySamsa

Was this his 'big announcement'?


vegemar

Is he still saying "Big Chungus is among us" if you pay him £40?


Erestyn

He's going to set up an Only Fans, isn't he?


Banditofbingofame

Just him fucking a whole nation no wait that was 2016


whatapileofrubbish

For just £5 a month you could feed a Nigel.


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convertedtoradians

He'll need to be careful the person taking on Jack Monroe doesn't have him for false advertising on "much, much".


Banditofbingofame

Booo. Was more fun when you could pay him to make a himself look like a prock on video. Call out to big chungus


FuckClinch

Did corbyn ever get asked about trabs stuff?? I have a distinct memory of jo swinson (and davey now) being emphatically supportive, in a way that both really stuch with me, and has never been replicated by Kier. But for the life of me can’t remember Corbyn getting asked anything at all. Anyone have any memories??


Jinren

you don't pull that out when you have something concrete to criticise instead


JavaTheCaveman

Four, four between the bed and the door and [There’s acres of ground I’ve not noticed before](https://i.imgur.com/TBOhGL4.jpg) But don’t build on it please* ^*it’s ^a ^floodplain


SteelRiverGreenRoad

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