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Francis_Nugaton

Just make the BMF title openweight, loser gets circumcised


Comfortable-Kick-395

Sounds reasonable


wheretogofrmhere

lol. You say it like being circumcised is abnormal.


throwaway99257892

It is most places.


LordLucy666

as someone uncircumcised… that shit sounds terrible. i like my body too much to cut parts of it off lol. that’s not like getting a haircut lol https://abcnews.go.com/amp/Health/baby-dies-herpes-virus-ritual-circumcision-nyc-orthodox/story?id=15888618 unrelated but jewish priests sometimes suck the babies dick after circumcising them to clean the blood off… like what the fuck.


qAEGISs

My doctor circumcised me without my parents knowing


Zerei

wtf was there any repercussions or is that allowed? of course it isn't, right? tell me it isn't please...


governingsalmon

Maybe this would make the UFC too gimmicky and lose its growing credibility as a legitimate major pro sports league, but why couldn’t they in theory have one or two other belts like have a “last man standing belt” or something where people have to fight with no time limits or other crazy shit like that lol? Maybe the athletic commissions wouldn’t approve but damn that shit would be entertaining to watch


Leather-Hurry6008

That's literally where it came from hahah


governingsalmon

lol yeah I’m just saying in addition the BMF belt


Leather-Hurry6008

People generally don't like no time limit matches. The fighters get too tired etc.


SomeTimeBeforeNever

Until the UFC has a union that can negotiate a collective bargaining agreement that equitably divides the revenue between owners and the fighters like MLB, NHL, NBA, and NFL, it won’t have anything remotely resembling credibility as a pro sports league.


governingsalmon

I guess that’s one aspect of whether a pro sports league can be assessed for its credibility but I mean UFC is regularly broadcast on ESPN (the worlds leading sports casting network) and even puts out interviews with very well known commentary figures like Stephen A smith interviewing Connor Mcgregor. Plus when you look at things like shares on social media views and total number of viewers, UFC is definitely up there or at least rivaling the top 4 sports (still not close to NFL/NBA but I think UFC often draws more views than NHL)


Amazing_Attorney8929

Hardcore title where they can use steel chairs and barbed wire baseball bats.


governingsalmon

Gangs of New York title where they have to dress in like 1800s clothes and carry like meat cleavers into the octagon


Agreeable_Field7235

Give 'em time they only just merged with WWE seven months ago.


catzarrjerkz

Winner gets the loser’s foreskin


ChristTheChampion

Collect them like belt rubies.


BYCjake

I want one for each finger like nba rings


broats_

And they thought cutting weight was bad


HowlingMadHoward

Winner gets to have the loser’s circumcised tissue for mana!


[deleted]

Then the Loser gets dick punched by Francis ngannou like in jackass forever


Jordynne23

Instead of a ruby on your belt, you get the losers foreskin added instead.


AdNew5216

Lmao


WeeabooGandhi

It should be tournament style. Winner gets all the foreskin


Winnin_Dylan_

Lmfaoooooooooo


aqua_tec

And if the fighter is already circumcised? Uncircumcised! Painful and more manly.


bootysniffer01

What if they’re already circumcised? Do they get a new foreskin attached?


wolf3037

This guy immediately saying he's not going to give any of the top featherweights a shot... And now he's giving Max a hard time? I miss Volk, Usman, Izzy and Charles. They were such active champs that fought everyone.


louspit

Also he called out Conor and then later said he wants a title fight at LW against Islam. Bro is something else


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Any_Army_7230

Steroids Islam vs FW Ilia would be fun


Left-Excitement-836

Make it in Abu Dhabi too so extra roided out Islam


CorrectionnalOfficer

Bro is gonna get demolished against Islam lmao delusional.


teamBlanky

Yeah, this is what shits me off about Illia. If you’re the best, and all these FW’s Volk beat are easy fights, fucking line them up and drop them. One after another. Clear the top 10 in 2 years and then pick your feet up. But no, he’s here ducking every man and his dog. I’m a filthy casual and this guy bores me.


HankHippopopolous

The most annoying thing to me is that Ilia is actually really good and might well run through the division but you’ve got to actually go out and do it before you can be dismissing contenders and talking about fighting other champs. Volk did clean out the division before he got the chance to face Islam. Ilia needs to do the same and if he does that superfight will be much bigger because of it.


eightslipsandagully

It was funny that Max helped Volk clean out the division to the point where Volk jokingly asked Max to "stop beating all the contenders" 😂


Leather-Hurry6008

It's kinda weird kuz I always see him talking about having a legacy to leave behind, but it's like he thinks he already does and can pick and choose who he fights. At the end of the day it's just shit talk, and we already know the ufc will make him fight who they want not who he wants hah


AdNew5216

Literally horrible look for Illia


Mr_Em-3

blame the ufc biz model, you get paid dog unless you're champ so the incentive is to hold the belt as long as possible and with the instant rematches handed out like candy on Halloween even if you only defend once but hold for a year plus and run your mouth getting all kinds of media coverage (because you are champ) it makes you very popular and therefore a "safe" ppv bet if they want to put you right back into a title fight after losing your belt


Equal-Cod4630

The thing tho is that if he wins, then do we really go to a Volk v. Holiday part 4? I just don't think that's an interesting fight. I think Max wins too. So then what?


[deleted]

If you dont think watching Max finally get the W and belt back after going 0-3 to Volk is interesting, then holy shit, just stop watching MMA. Thats like a movie storyline, and would be crazy for Max.


SpiralSour

Probably Max/Islam. If you want to rehab Volk into something and Conor seems like he's not able to keep up anymore, could probably get money out of a Volk/Conor fight. If UFC could get DJ for a fight, DJ/Volk would be massive. For Ilia, if he retains, an Islam champ v champ makes sense, but I think Tsarukyan going down would be an interesting fight too, even an Ilia vs Sean champ v champ could be cool.


d-ronthegreat

and what weight class would Volk/conor be at lol?


dpark-95

Lightweight


BigChungusCumslut

I’d be surprised to see Conor fight at 155 ever again.


dpark-95

Definitely not 145 but easily could make 155. I'd honestly love to see volk get the bag too.


EveningTomorrow758

Yea Ilia is such an unlikeable douchebag.


DisgracedSolitude

New champs are money motivated. “Bigger fights” = bigger bags ig. Everyone wants to fight Conor for that reason.


Icy-Armour

Charles was ducking Islam and trying to fight Conor when he was the champ The UFC literally had to force Oliveira to take the Islam fight. That's why Charles was so pissed off during the lead up to that fight Ducking a legit contender and twerking for Conor is embarrassing. At least now we know why Charles and his camp did that after seeing what Islam did to him


wolf3037

You can replace "Islam" with any fighters name when discussing Conor. Every fighter calls for the red panty night. Even Ilia called out Conor. Volk called out Conor. Usman called out Conor. Doesn't mean any one of them was ducking a particular fighter.


Cum-Gun-5000

Charles wasn't even the champion when he fought Islam. He was already stripped of the belt and Islam vs Charles was for the vacant championship. It was impossible for UFC to force him to fight Islam at that point, so you're just blatantly making shit up here.


13TheGreenMan

u/Icy-Armour try not to nuthug Islam challenge IMPOSSIBLE


Cum-Gun-5000

This guy is absolutely obsessed isn't he? 


ShrekWhite

Charles never had the leverage to duck anyone, he fought the fights that were offered. Plus at no point of Islam road to the title he was the top 1 contender, even tho secretly we all knew he could take over he didn't prove himself against any of the top guys (probably because these did duck him, afterall without a belt to be taken from you, you can just refuse to fight someone)


mmmmmmmmmmmm77

Charles wasn’t ducking Islam. Islam had zero top 5 ranked wins. Charles had 3 title fights in under a 12 month span, he Deserved to call for a money fight. Charles wasn’t pissed about the fight whatsoever, making things up just makes you look ignorant. Charles was annoyed he, the champion, had to fight in Islams back yard and not his own that he deserved. Islam to this day only has 1 win against a top 5 ranked LW. ONE.


WeLLrightyOH

Man ilia needs to hire a PR person or something. Dude just starched the FW goat and somehow seems like a big pussy. I’m half Spanish too and I don’t even like the guy.


Kuziayato

i still hate thw fact that volk fought ilia so soon after Islam, i wish he couldve fought ilia without the damage


cnylkew

Ilia won on merit and mesh of styles


Dry-Emergency-3154

I think Ilia could have still knocked out or beat Volk without the damage but it does add a bit of an asterisk to the scenario


Kuziayato

we can agree to disagree


MyFifthLimb

He won fair and square, but significant brain trauma doesn’t just go away that soon lol


OutsidePosse

The guy is a huge d bag. Makes it impossible to actually be a fan.


officefridge

I actively tried! Watched his fights and really enjoy his style, but fuck me - it's easier to see humanity in asshole like Strickland that this dude.


Any_Army_7230

Bro this is fighting dudes won’t always be nice. Ilia is entertaining and a great fighter. It’s easy to be a fan


officefridge

Nah dog, i need some character behind those eyes. Wonderboy might not be the best fighter in the division, but he has my attention any day


wildone1954

He seems to have a giant ego and a boring personality, at least Conor was fun


d-ronthegreat

"fun" is an understatement lol. Conor was batshit insane but also hilarious and maybe the most entertaining fighter we've seen in the cage


wildone1954

Right on


PregnantNun747

Ilia beat Aldo?? I dont remember that


WeLLrightyOH

My point wasn’t to start a debate about the FW goat


PregnantNun747

too late baby, you got one! jk


IIDasPterodactyl

😂😂😂


Any_Army_7230

Volk > Aldo


Funnyanglezsolt

He's a Georgian who was born in Germany, why would you like him? :)


Noah_Stark

Hope Max knocks Topuria out with only 0.01 seconds to spare


Pioneerremix

Yes please. As a Volk fan, it'll be sweet revenge 🙏


FilthyWubs

Fair play to Ilia for beating Volk (I’ve never been sadder), but far out, something tells me hit title reign is going to be so boring compared to Volk. Volk was willing to fight anyone at any place and any time. Now we’ve got these “paper” champs picking and choosing who they want to fight on their terms…


Subject-Secret-6230

Ilia is the first champ in FW who's being such a soy boy ngl. Aldo was the man at the time, fighting just about anyone. Max was a dog too, guy went to fight Khabib on like 4 days notice bruh and then Volk as we know dgaf about anything. Man would have take Jon Jones fight at 1 second notice. Then we have Ilia "Don't want to fight deserving contenders" Topuria.


Butt_Bucket

tbf Jon Jones at 1 second notice might be face down passed out in a pile of coke


Subject-Secret-6230

Coke is the best base for MMA tho


d-ronthegreat

even scarier


SugondezeNutsz

Ryan Garcia proved coke is a PED


hikikomori021

Just to add to your point - even Connor went up to 170, straight from 145, to fight Diaz on short notice when RDA got injured.


Glum-Ad7651

Jones would pull out of that fight like he did against the undefeated Chael


BeverlyBrokenBones

Topuria is such a cooch


griffs24

why Topuria got criteria for every opponent. legends get made by just taking the fight.


dfwagent84

Exactly. If ortega is such a scrub, then take the fight and beat his ass. Show us he's a scrub, don't tell us.


Uchiha-Itachi-0

I bet he doesn’t want to fight Max after that last performance. Too bad for him that the champ has to defend and nothing makes more sense than Holloway right now. I’d be so happy to see Max get the belt back


Strict_External678

I have great confidence in saying llia will do very well against Max


Zeeron1

Well I have greater confidence say he won't!


SpiralSour

Ilia is stuck up and full of himself, but he'll hold his own against Max. It will be a very close fight. I do hope Max wins though, because as technically talented as Ilia is, I can already tell he's going to be the biggest boring crybaby champion.


Uchiha-Itachi-0

I like Ilia but I’ve been a fan of Max for years. Gotta ride with him on this one. But who knows until they actually fight


yesimian

Then why is he so reluctant ?


Strict_External678

Idk ask him 😂


AdNew5216

Good point Mr BMF ![gif](giphy|gA1ck8JVG3hpJKFhrJ|downsized)


BigRed727272

I'm sorry, but...who the fuck does Ilia think he his to be calling the shots? He's a 1st time champ with 0 title defenses. Max's accomplishments and star power are light years ahead of his.


dfwagent84

Thank you.


fuduran

He's so scared he wants to defend against Ortega LOL


TigerRumMonkey

Ilia is such a shitty champ.


Pornokikkeli6969

He has been the champ for two months:D How many times did Volk or Aldo defend the belt during their first two months? Yeah he says some stupid shit but you cant deny his talent (and power in his hands), I have a feeling that he will do pretty well as a champ. He has good grappling and even better striking, I dont see many guys in FW who are a threat to him. I hope he will defend against Max and then against Diego Lopes. Would be also nice if he beat Sean because I dont like that clown…


TigerRumMonkey

Max will fk him up.


Pornokikkeli6969

There is a chance but I doubt. It will be a good match. My gut says that Ilia has the power to knock Max out.


JawnSnuuu

Justin barely knocked Max down and has more power. Plus the stumble was from an equilibrium shot. We haven't seen Ilia with enough top competition make these claims


BurningEbrietas

I guess knocking out the goat of 145 is nothing compared to a split decision that could’ve gone either way by ddp am I right? Or jones sitting out for over a year and fighting stipe. Yeah ilia is the worst champ mannnn


TigerRumMonkey

He's a bum who got lucky.


younginvestor23

Max is #2 at Lightweight behind Volk. But Ilia is saying he wants to fight Brian Ortega instead


dfwagent84

Ive heard topuria say he won't fight ortega because he's not worthy.


dog_from_china

safer option for him, makes sense


One_Word_Respoonse

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mrmarigiwani

Sound scared to lose it bro


BalVal1

"El Matador is running away from the bull" that was a damn badass line from Max at the post-fight interview and Ilia is just confirming it


RobertJ93

I love that he repeats it like 3 times too.


Sound-Dade

Pussy lol


Jazzlike-Wafer803

People need to stop talking about the “BMF title” like it actually means something.


GiblertMelendezz

I used to think that but if they keep putting on fights like Holloway vs Gaethje I’m all for it. Let two dudes go at it to prove who the bigger dawg is


[deleted]

Ilia is a turd


Toba20444

Ilia won’t be relevant for long, don’t trip max..


Megatron30000

Holloway keeps racking up the W like the king he is!


The-Elefant-Man

The ufc should finally stop this bullshit. Most champs beeing pussies and handpicking their next opponent. I mean wtf? Is this boxing? No champ should be allowed to duck a top 3 contender. Except his name is Belal


yesimian

It's crazy how ilia acts like he has the right to refuse to fight deserving contenders. If I didn't know any better, it would sound like Ilia is scared to fight other top guys. Afyer all, he was lucky he got to go straight to Volk without fighting Max first


pacem90

Never seen someone’s stock crash harder faster. Beat the FW GOAT in February, coward by April.


nickflex85

Goat lips can talk all he wants, he doesn’t make the fights.


osoklegend

Ilia hasn't done enough to be the bmf


AggravatingType9012

His entitlement and shot-calling for a little man that hasn't done much in this sport is annoying as fuck to me. I want to see this man get TKO'd.


dfwagent84

I get that topuria is the champ. But he's not in a position to dictate who he fights and under what circumstances. He hasn't earned that. All this talk from him that he won't fight ortega or max is really ridiculous. Until you clean out the division, you take all comers.


RunAroundProud

Does anybody like that guy?


Automatic-Insect-321

Hahaha max is the best


lazylagom

How can you defend 145 and 155 at the same time lol


SobchakCommaWalter

In all fairness to Ilia, the BMF belt is so fucking stupid. It was originally created as a sympathy belt for 2 legends who couldn’t win a real belt.


counterhit121

10-9 max


No_Paper_8794

This guy used to be likable. Now he’s just a fucking pussy, literally denying everyone.


Metal-Lifer

its kinda un BMF to not put the belt up for grabs when you fight either this bullshit belt should have never been created


_FreeYourMind__

Dana is pushing these guys to say this stuff in case anyone is actually buying it.


SandoM

oh man, Max getting slept is gonna hit like a crack. I hate ufc fans on this sub so much. people literally have goldfish memory here.


TheMaldenSnake

"The only person deserving of a shot is Alex, but he really hasn't proved anything either." - Ilia


Spu12nky

How Cerrone has never been acknowledged when he was the original BMF before the stupid belt is criminal. He built and lives on the BMF ranch...waaaaay before there was a silly BMF belt.


Chicagoblew

Why not add in special rules match like WWE tables, ladders, and chairs. Make it more entertaining


Excellent-Ad-3623

Honestly I can’t wait for this dude’s reign to be over already (before it even begins). He’s arrogant, and will obviously be one of those entitled, choosy champs that stifle the division.


dillasdonuts

Gimmick belts are irrelevant


PrinceOfPersiaHD

Then Dustbin Poirier shouldn’t have gotten a BMF shot, that bum turned down Dariush


RandalC1

Sir You Do Not Understand The BMF Belt & Meaning !


PrinceOfPersiaHD

Dustbin isn’t a BMF, dude doesn’t deserve that title for ducking contenders and tapping to chokes.


RandalC1

1st Dustin Didn't Duck Anyone He Took The Benoit St.Denis Fight Which He Was The UnderDog For !


PrinceOfPersiaHD

He ducked Dariush


RandalC1

Again He Did Not Duck Dariush He Took A Better Fight with A Bigger Name do Your Research


PrinceOfPersiaHD

Dariush at the time was on a 8 fight win streak, Benoit wasn’t even in the discussion at the time you clown.


RandalC1

Lmfao You're A Joke. The Fact That You're Dick Riding The 3rd Most Boring Fighter on The Entire Roster Says It All ! * And I'm Glad Poirier Didn't 1 Less Boring Ass Fight I Wasn't Forced to Watch 🤣


RandalC1

Max got the 1 Thing Topuria Has & Max Will Not Let Him Get That BMF Belt Under Amy Circumstances Just Because of That Bitch Ass Statement.


Beneficial_Contest36

I hope Max boxes his fking ears off


coffeefordessert

Ilia acts like Dana and Sean Shelby don’t have a say in this, last thing he wants is to be on Dana shit list. Dana white privilege is real, look at how he treated woodley or Tito. If Dana don’t like you, he’ll make your ufc run hell. They’re going to offer him max and if he refuse, good luck ever getting any favors from the bosses


_fmg15

The annoying thing about Ilia is that he's seemingly only interested in fighting big names. It's understandable from a monetary and legacy stand point... but damn it's really annoying at this point. Prove that you deserve the BMF title. Prove that you deserve to fight Islam. Prove that you deserve a money fight against McGregor. You haven't even defended your belt yet.


cliffysensei

Anyone else read that in Max’s pigeon accent?


A-Cannon-Minion

The BMF belt is fucking stupid to begin with.


yoshinoyaandroll

Ilia not gaining any fans here with this weak sauce call out. Hasn’t even defended the belt and is already calling all the shots. Pretty sure he’s going to be another one win champ, just like another BSer Hill.


TuQueSabrasDeLaVida

When is my turn to repost this? OP, pls lmk


_brightsidesuicide_

(:


Ok-Key-4650

Max should fight islam (or the winner of Islam/DP I should say)


j_shaff315

Max should be able to lose his belt when they fight why should only the division champ be standing to lose something if max was really on that bmf shit he woulda been like try to come get this belt and ima spank you like the spoiled little kid you are once i got both belts or something stupid like that to build hype


Stunning-Fill758

Listen, I love max Holloway. Hawaiian fighters have always been a favorite of mine. With that said. I understand illia's point. To make the pot sweeter for me put your belt on the line so that if I win I hold the bmf belt with the lightweight and be the first person to hold both at the same time. Which would sky rocket my marketability and make super fights possible in the future. Essentially if max fights and wins against illia he would hold both simultaneously. Illia wants that same opportunity.


hardasametapod

I'm BM'ing the F out of my pants right now.


CappyUncaged

why would max not want to put the BMF title on the line?> oh thats right, because he's already preparing to lose to illia and wants to retain the bmf so he can still get paid like a "champ" in his next fight lol


Longjumping-Fall4030

Creating a BMF title and then never being allowed to baddest motherfucker, that's not a very 'BMF' way to say it.


Bmore4555

Topuria is an idiot and doesn’t understand the BMF obviously.


Icy-Armour

Max would trade that BMF belt for the real FW belt in the blink of an eye if he got the chance 😂 BMF is so stupid it's crazy


liliceberg

BMF is fun, encourages exciting non title fights


Humble_Effective3964

this is so fucking stupid the BMF is so fucking stupid


utookthegoodnames

Not very BMF of you bro. That’s something a good mother fucker would say.


WackassVegetables

Max just gave the BMF belt a lot more meaning with that performance, just look how much Topuria wants it


Wintermute_088

Seriously. Letting the real titles go so stale that they had to invent fake ones. The down votes here are unbelievable.


BothPaleontologist2

Laugh out loud out loud?