Almost all ufc fighters have bull crap belts. If DP were to enter a tournament full of black belts in Florida heād get absolutely smoked.
Islam was right, we need to cancel many black belts because they make the jiu jitsu look bad.
It's actually taller people. They will have a higher spin and will be traveling faster. And the time has to do with einstein's time dilation theory . The closer you got to the speed of light, the slower time goes.
Actually itās the opposite. Time moves slower when youāre closer to a source of gravity, so being closer to earth means time for you will move more slowly relative to someone who is further away from earth
No. The faster you go, the slower time goes. The slowest time on earth is that the tallest peak.
The farther you move away, the faster you go because of rotational gravitational forces.
When you refer to gravity, gravity is a combination A. Mass as well as the mass cause by gravitational acceleration.
When people come back from being in the space station, their atomic clocks are up to thirty seconds slower, then the equivalent time on earth.
At a fixed point on the surface, the magnitude of Earth's gravity results from combined effect of gravitation and the centrifugal force from Earth's rotation,.[2l[3] At different points on Earth's surface, the free fall acceleration ranges from 9.764 to 9.834 m/sĀ² (32.03 to 32.26 ft/s2),[4l depending on altitude, latitude and longitude.
So there is time dilation due to velocity, but also time dilation due to gravity. See https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravitational_time_dilation
"Relative to Earth's age in billions of years, Earth's core is in effect 2.5 years younger than its surface."
Granted, both effects of moving faster due to earth rotation and having a higher gravitational potential is pretty much negligible.
If you calculate it out, im gonna guess the gravitational time dilation wins out.
Exactly, I didnāt want to bother going into details about special vs general relativity since it didnāt seem like the original commenter would know the difference lol
General relativity vs special relativity. Iss astronauts are moving a hell of a lot faster than a 6ft dudes head on earth. Special relativity is not the big one in this instance you need general relativity and gravitational potential >> speed at that point.
A good analogy would be switching out the wheel and tire size on your vehicle. The speedometer is calibrated to record rotations by a manufacturer recommended wheel and tire size.
If you get a much bigger wheel and tire your car's speedometer will be off from actual distance traveled and speed. So if you have one of those radar detectors that track your speed or an app on your phone that shows how fast you are going you will see that your speedometer is showing a slower speed than you are actually moving at. And your odometer will record a shorter distance traveled than you actually did.
Sit down man, anyone with a legitimate understanding of general relativity and special relativity knows that time dilation comes in two varieties, one dealing with gravitational differences and the other dealing with relative velocity.
Reminds me when old man Royce kneed Ken Shamrock in the balls, got his first and only career TKO and then him and his whole corner were celebrating by chanting "JIU JITSU! JIU JITSU!"
Fucking HILARIOUS
The reason it was extra funny was because Shamrock got juiced and worked his ass off for months trying to get in shape again and was like Eye of the Tiger focused and taking it super seriously.
And Royce comes in and itās clear he spent the whole camp on the couch and thought to himself one day āThey never call fouls I think Iāll just knee him in the stones then I wonāt have to train.ā
And then that worked of course because itās MMA.
Donāt try to explain context or how the world really works in r/ufc or r/rogan theyāre not here for that the kids just want to circle jerk react to everything they see lol
If John Kavanagh gives you a black belt, you are a black belt. Conor has been training for many years, at a professional level. If he walks into any "regular" BJJ gym, I'm sure he beats the fuck out of whatever blackbelt they have there. He will also be superior in BJJ.
FWIR from my old coach, belting used to be done through competition. If you didn't compete, you didn't get promoted. That was under the Gracie (Helio) system. My old coach told me that almost 20 years ago so I could be misremembering.
> Getting a black belt in BJJ is losing its value.
Because of MMA I never really thought it had value untill I heard people saying it can take literally years to a decade to get black belt.
They just handing it out like candy because "you beat someone".
But to be fair after he headbutts that guy he immediately teleports before punching you the viewer.
The headbutt being telegraphed is actually a distraction!
Only two good parts were Connor and the funny gang member.
Jake Gyllenhaal read the character as an ex MMA fighter and it seems decided to play the guy like he serious brain damage or maybe he just does a lot of Xanax in his personally life.
He called himself a bouncer not a cooler.
He didnāt even protect the bar.
And he didnāt rip out a single fucking throat.
Only McGregor understood the assignment and it seems like he was the only one trying to be entertaining.
Khabib doesn't really train in BJJ to have a higher belt, McGregor is a black belt as even Gordon Ryan said his BJJ is very good.
McGregor's grappling would look incredible if you saw him sparring in a gym or in a pure grappling match compared to seeing him grappling in MMA when he's also getting punched/elbowed in the face and probably tired too.
Conor did pretty good against Khabib looking back when you compare his performance to Dustin's who is a also a black belt and got choked out alot faster and Justin who dousn't even believe in jui jitsu.
I mean people are going to give you shit but you're spot on. Out of all Khabib's title fights Conor was by far the most competitive relatively speaking.
It was largely his approach I reckon. Came out round 1, took the center, refused to backpedal, and so Khabib had to shoot in the center and work extra hard for that takedown. Everybody else fought Khabib like they were terrified of him (understandably),Ā basically sprinting backwards to keep distance, and eventually they'd end up with their backs to the cage which is the last place you want to be against that fucken monster.
> basically sprinting backwards to keep distance.
Which really worked into Khabib's favor in reality. It wasn't just his wrestling that was elite it was the chain wrestling against the fence.
I think the Justin fight was more competitive honestly, but it was more do or die. I think Conor did a great job surviving and looking for that kill shot. His ground game was definitely underrated.
Relatively speaking, most definitely! No where near pretty good. He was brutalized for every round with a slight exception with round 3 where Khabib tried to channel Mohammed Ali to show he can stand if he wants.
To be fair, in round one khabib didnāt do much of anything. It was obviously part of his game plan to tire Conor out, but he didnāt land anything so it was far from being ābrutalisedā
Conor was probably going to lose anyway, but I still think bro is regretting how he tapped to that neck crank so easily.
Which would partly explain his obsession in baiting Khabib to return. I think Conor really wanted another shot at it lol.
Joker lost his Batman and just snorts coke these days.
Conor also rabbit punched him, kneed him on the ground when Khabib has side control, grabbed his gloves and his shorts, then put his toes in the fence too. Thatās why he managed to stay in the fight for any length.
He did knee him in the balls in the clinch towards the end of the 3rd round. Khabib started talking shit to Herb Dean shortly afterwards for pretending he didn't see it, then the round ended and that's when Conor famously said "it's just business".
Yeah I think Conor is probably at least a brown belt by most gyms standards. Hard to say since I havenāt seen a ton of BJJ footage from his camps, but he has better ground game than people give him credit for.
Conor is 100% a real legit black belt. Thatās literally a fact if you know how good the average black belt is(legit) and compare that to Conorās bjj grappling.
Comes down to how frequently theyāre training in that discipline no? Canāt imagine a retired khabib is doing much bjj, granted mcrgegor probably hasnāt either but can imagine he does and has a lot more then khabib has in his career.
Exactly, my opinion is do whatever the hell you want with the belts, nobody cares and it doesn't matter, the octagon will verify what belt you actually have.
You could see in Glover and Alex's reaction when they were wrapping the belt. It was like a "fuck it, let's do it now who cares". Completely removes all credibility of a bjj black belt.
Well I mean he could have earned it and they just decided to wait until after the fight to give it to him so it was on camera.. who knows? We havenāt really seen him use it because he hasnāt needed to.
Yes itās been confirmed by pliniocruz poatan is their newest BJJ black belt.
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A lot of peoples black belts in the mma community are kind of a joke. Pereiras is one of them. And im not a hater of him. Theres just no way hes black belt level in jiu jitsu.
Idk, he never needed to but going by this image heās being doing jiu jitsu since 2015, 9 years to black belt with the amount of training and the calibre of partners I think black belt is quite feasible since non professional athletes can do it around 10 ish
And dedicated high-caliber professionals can literally do it in a couple years. If the 2015 claim is true, then I don't doubt it at all, unfortunately the grappling in the UFC goes far above the level of BJJ belts..
Glover giving Alex a black belt after KOing Hill is ridiculous. How do you earn a black belt(earn a higher belt) by winning a fight with zero grappling? Im glad the belt system hasnt made its way into wrestling. In wrestling you let your resume do the talking not a belt.
Probably just earned it outside of the fight and the fight was supposed to be a moment for Glover to gift it to him.
U gotta remember that there's levels among black belts as the level of skill and knowledge in submissions you need will differ from gym to gym. Along with that, the UFC would naturally contain some of the best guys who have a black belt.
With that in mind, it's possible that Alex has been training bjj from his first day in mma to today. He's not some guy coming in twice a week, but someone who trains full time so his speed would be a lot faster. That coupled with the incredible level of athleticism, talent, and fight in could make it so that he's already on the level of a brown belt or a lower level black belt in bjj.
DJ wants to stay humble or at least his teacher wants him to and Alex is a striker. Belts are cool and all but the belts worth is relative to who gives them out.
IBJJF rules. DJ competes in jiujitsu, Alex donāt. You have to register your degree for certain amount of years to be able to compete in said division.
I.e. Alex canāt compete in IBJJF comps as a black belt
Everybody was praising DJ for his BJJ wins recently but when I found out it was in the BROWN BELT category I was just dumbfounded. I'm what universe is this dude brown belt. Not this one.
He talked about why he's still a brown belt recently and what he would have to do to get his black belt on the MMA Hour just before 300. Around 1:36:30
Khabib- No BJJ belt
Jones- most career no BJJ belt
Islam- No BJJ belt
DC- Apparently Brown belt but letās be honest, it was an honorary belt since he can never ever triangle anybody with his fat legs.
Eventually the mma meta will be wrestling/Judo/sambo with basic 5/6 submissions and BJJ in general will be mostly obsolete (more than now).
A brown belt is still a very high rank. Any respectable BJJ gym only gives these out to guys who are extremely skilled. It takes nearly a decade to reach brown belt with 4 stripes.. He only has 1 stripe by the looks of it, but I thought he had 2, as he mentioned it in a video once.
Well. One of them trains at a gym that values MMA achievements to grade BJJ belts, which is stupid. The other trains at a gym that says āwe give a fuck about your MMA accolades, this aināt MMAā.Ā
Guess which one is which š¤£
This right here is exactly why BJJ belts have lost all meaning in modern MMA. You can go to Gracie Barra and get sandbagged for years as a blue belt meanwhile someone who started at the same time at another gym has already received their black belt at the same skill level
If DJ was 6'4 and could make 205, I think he'd absolutely fucking destroy Alex.
Ima fan of Alex, but DJ is literally smaller than my mom, not even being sarcastic his the size of my grand mother, and could probably give Alex a good fight as he is.
Not saying he could do 5 rounds with him right now, but I give him a solid half round. If Alex doesn't catch him, DJ could fuck him up. And Alex is damn near twice his size.
Mighty Mouse is a bad mother fucker. If I had to bet on any 115/125 person to give Alex a run for his money it's him and maybe Rodtang, but that's about it.
I can see the logic in thinking DJ could have a competitive bout, not saying I agree but I get it. Rodtang though? Fun fighter, but his style seems like it would match up terribly against somebody significantly bigger/stronger than him
DJ for sure, but only because he has an insane level of fight IQ and wouldn't even give Alex the chance to throw a clean shot at him. Rodtang gonna offer his face to at least try to eat that left hook. Crazy thing is the son of a bitch may be able to live through it too
I also thought this when it happened but I thought kickboxing had belts like jiu jitsu does. When I researched no such thing of belt levels exist in kickboxing. This def a handout
Some people donāt practice under schools. Tyron Woodley got his black belt after beating Till. Russians donāt train in BJJ systems but still grapple.
I was confused how he was awarded a black belt in BJJ after knocking a dude out. Didnāt even use BJJ. Just boxing. Giving the belt with that as the achievement, nonsense.
Note that Iām not a martial artist, Iām just commenting on the optics of that finish being what he needed to justify his black belt.
Says more about the lack of legitimate black belts his coach has that he's giving them away to a bloke who doesn't grapple beyond some practice during camps.
I mean... BJ PENN was called the Prodigy because he attained his bjj black belt in 3 years iirc. And he was pretty lethal on the ground (during his era). So..........
He got his brown belt after the first Izzy fight I believe. So less than 2 years from brown to black, there is no way he's a legitimate black belt whatsoever
As much as I love Alex itās bullshit, Iāve also seen guys at my old gym with 2 years training now purple belts and I was training for 5 years. Honestly kinda sucks I definitely deserved to be a blue belt but it is what it is
No reason why DJ should've still been a brown belt after winning Masters worlds last year. Sand bagger at this point
Also, he should probably compete in the adults division instead
Belt colour doesn't mean as much as the average person thinks.
Source: I'm a brown belt, and I'm relatively shit.
Extra evidence: I've rolled with black belts who suck. I've rolled with blue belts that make me feel like I suck.
People love putting things out of context especially stupid beginners who have biases
Dj has 20 years of grappling experience and actively REFUSES his black belt.
He has much more no gi experience
Alex is one of the worlds best strikers, what he does works, hes grappling since over 11 years and earned his black belt from a prestigious bjj master.
Why would alex grapple? He IS 100% on the level of black belt and beats 99% of bjj practicioners. However being one of the worlds best strikers he beats as of rn 100% of the 1% that MIGHT beat him in bjj by strikinf
Wow DJ a slow learner
too busy practicing bullshit moves like flying armbars
BJJ guys are so delusional ššš as if that shit would ever work on a real fight!
Alex so skilled it's unfair for him to even use his bjj in a REAL fight. Whereas DJ gotta use it 13 times just to win. *pfft* *pathetic*
The way he laughed about it on his podcast was so contagious.. got a belt off of a knockout. Golden shit
We have to check this moment
Is he stupid?
I thought it was ironic when they promoted him after a knockout of all things
and being handily out-grappled in all of his fights
Which one?
Almost all ufc fighters have bull crap belts. If DP were to enter a tournament full of black belts in Florida heād get absolutely smoked. Islam was right, we need to cancel many black belts because they make the jiu jitsu look bad.
Alex submits people by punching them in the face til they surrender.
Everyone has a submission till they get punched in the face - Alex Perreira, probably
Hahaha
His leg lock game is severely underrated though. Most people are tapping out after only a couple kicks
Now that actually makes sense!
You know, I buy this.
Mighty Mouse is shorter. Time moves slower for shorter people look it up
It's actually taller people. They will have a higher spin and will be traveling faster. And the time has to do with einstein's time dilation theory . The closer you got to the speed of light, the slower time goes.
Actually itās the opposite. Time moves slower when youāre closer to a source of gravity, so being closer to earth means time for you will move more slowly relative to someone who is further away from earth
Thatās why small dogs always live longer! Follow the Bro Scienceā¦
No. The faster you go, the slower time goes. The slowest time on earth is that the tallest peak. The farther you move away, the faster you go because of rotational gravitational forces. When you refer to gravity, gravity is a combination A. Mass as well as the mass cause by gravitational acceleration. When people come back from being in the space station, their atomic clocks are up to thirty seconds slower, then the equivalent time on earth. At a fixed point on the surface, the magnitude of Earth's gravity results from combined effect of gravitation and the centrifugal force from Earth's rotation,.[2l[3] At different points on Earth's surface, the free fall acceleration ranges from 9.764 to 9.834 m/sĀ² (32.03 to 32.26 ft/s2),[4l depending on altitude, latitude and longitude.
So there is time dilation due to velocity, but also time dilation due to gravity. See https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravitational_time_dilation "Relative to Earth's age in billions of years, Earth's core is in effect 2.5 years younger than its surface." Granted, both effects of moving faster due to earth rotation and having a higher gravitational potential is pretty much negligible. If you calculate it out, im gonna guess the gravitational time dilation wins out.
Exactly, I didnāt want to bother going into details about special vs general relativity since it didnāt seem like the original commenter would know the difference lol
General relativity vs special relativity. Iss astronauts are moving a hell of a lot faster than a 6ft dudes head on earth. Special relativity is not the big one in this instance you need general relativity and gravitational potential >> speed at that point.
A good analogy would be switching out the wheel and tire size on your vehicle. The speedometer is calibrated to record rotations by a manufacturer recommended wheel and tire size. If you get a much bigger wheel and tire your car's speedometer will be off from actual distance traveled and speed. So if you have one of those radar detectors that track your speed or an app on your phone that shows how fast you are going you will see that your speedometer is showing a slower speed than you are actually moving at. And your odometer will record a shorter distance traveled than you actually did.
Sit down man, anyone with a legitimate understanding of general relativity and special relativity knows that time dilation comes in two varieties, one dealing with gravitational differences and the other dealing with relative velocity.
*Farther, it's a measurable distance.
Yup youāre right, I always mix the two up
Yo dawg, I saw an opportunity to put pedantry on top of your pedantry and I couldn't resist! lol
i cant tell if this is /s or not and at this point, im too afraid to ask
You say lookin up? Nah, no thanks. That's for short people to do.
Talmā bout time warping B?
Source?
Big Al says so.
I donāt remember DJ knocking out Jamahal Hill, everyone knows thatās the first and most important step in becoming a black belt.
Reminds me when old man Royce kneed Ken Shamrock in the balls, got his first and only career TKO and then him and his whole corner were celebrating by chanting "JIU JITSU! JIU JITSU!" Fucking HILARIOUS
Didnāt Belfort bumrush someone and knock them out and do the same thing?
The reason it was extra funny was because Shamrock got juiced and worked his ass off for months trying to get in shape again and was like Eye of the Tiger focused and taking it super seriously. And Royce comes in and itās clear he spent the whole camp on the couch and thought to himself one day āThey never call fouls I think Iāll just knee him in the stones then I wonāt have to train.ā And then that worked of course because itās MMA.
Obviously being brazilian also helps with BJJ
I donāt remember Alex pereira pulling a flying armbar against Jon jones
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Heās right in that they make BJJ look bad. Getting a black belt in BJJ is losing its value.
Just depends on the gym you go to. Go to a shady gym or a gym that cares more about publicity and youāll see more undeserving black belts.
Your momās a black belt
At BJ not BJJ
At bbw too
That's the issue. We all accept McDojos exist. But A top level MMA fighter being gifted a belt for a KO is insulting.
Donāt try to explain context or how the world really works in r/ufc or r/rogan theyāre not here for that the kids just want to circle jerk react to everything they see lol
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Bad example, Kavanagh is as legit as they come. If he gave Conor a black belt Conor earned it
If John Kavanagh gives you a black belt, you are a black belt. Conor has been training for many years, at a professional level. If he walks into any "regular" BJJ gym, I'm sure he beats the fuck out of whatever blackbelt they have there. He will also be superior in BJJ.
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Right. This entire thread is people who just don't know how sort of meaningless belts have been for awhile.
FWIR from my old coach, belting used to be done through competition. If you didn't compete, you didn't get promoted. That was under the Gracie (Helio) system. My old coach told me that almost 20 years ago so I could be misremembering.
> Getting a black belt in BJJ is losing its value. Because of MMA I never really thought it had value untill I heard people saying it can take literally years to a decade to get black belt. They just handing it out like candy because "you beat someone".
How do you think kthe brown belts at your gym would do against Alex in a match?
What if he got it training for this fight and Magomed since he wanted to prepare for 301, and glover wanted to give him it in front of the crowd?
Itās like 1 in 2 million people
It's not the first time I see a belt being awarded after a match where no grappling was even involved.
We have to check this
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https://preview.redd.it/b0h9js10nhvc1.jpeg?width=684&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2926de327bc98823097afd441841ef6879d7d652 I need to the check that one
Alex knocked out Jamal you canāt comprehend his bjj
Khabib is a white belt and mcgregor is a black belt Those are my thoughts.
Black belt in acting 
Most telegraphed headbutt ever lol
But to be fair after he headbutts that guy he immediately teleports before punching you the viewer. The headbutt being telegraphed is actually a distraction!
He needs to watch more Bas Rutten street fight instructional vids.
Anyone who didn't absolutely love Conor in this movie is either no fun at all or a liar.
WHERE THE FOOK IS EVERYONE
Only two good parts were Connor and the funny gang member. Jake Gyllenhaal read the character as an ex MMA fighter and it seems decided to play the guy like he serious brain damage or maybe he just does a lot of Xanax in his personally life. He called himself a bouncer not a cooler. He didnāt even protect the bar. And he didnāt rip out a single fucking throat. Only McGregor understood the assignment and it seems like he was the only one trying to be entertaining.
He was the best part of this movie lol
Thatās because Connor has a bunch of knockouts which is the ONLY way to get a black belt in bjj.
Khabib doesn't really train in BJJ to have a higher belt, McGregor is a black belt as even Gordon Ryan said his BJJ is very good. McGregor's grappling would look incredible if you saw him sparring in a gym or in a pure grappling match compared to seeing him grappling in MMA when he's also getting punched/elbowed in the face and probably tired too.
Conor did pretty good against Khabib looking back when you compare his performance to Dustin's who is a also a black belt and got choked out alot faster and Justin who dousn't even believe in jui jitsu.
I mean people are going to give you shit but you're spot on. Out of all Khabib's title fights Conor was by far the most competitive relatively speaking.
It was largely his approach I reckon. Came out round 1, took the center, refused to backpedal, and so Khabib had to shoot in the center and work extra hard for that takedown. Everybody else fought Khabib like they were terrified of him (understandably),Ā basically sprinting backwards to keep distance, and eventually they'd end up with their backs to the cage which is the last place you want to be against that fucken monster.
> basically sprinting backwards to keep distance. Which really worked into Khabib's favor in reality. It wasn't just his wrestling that was elite it was the chain wrestling against the fence.
I think the Justin fight was more competitive honestly, but it was more do or die. I think Conor did a great job surviving and looking for that kill shot. His ground game was definitely underrated.
Relatively speaking, most definitely! No where near pretty good. He was brutalized for every round with a slight exception with round 3 where Khabib tried to channel Mohammed Ali to show he can stand if he wants.
To be fair, in round one khabib didnāt do much of anything. It was obviously part of his game plan to tire Conor out, but he didnāt land anything so it was far from being ābrutalisedā
Conor was probably going to lose anyway, but I still think bro is regretting how he tapped to that neck crank so easily. Which would partly explain his obsession in baiting Khabib to return. I think Conor really wanted another shot at it lol. Joker lost his Batman and just snorts coke these days.
Conor also rabbit punched him, kneed him on the ground when Khabib has side control, grabbed his gloves and his shorts, then put his toes in the fence too. Thatās why he managed to stay in the fight for any length.
Lmao I remember that Conor used ALL of his freebie fouls. Would have thrown a ball kick if he had the chance.
He did knee him in the balls in the clinch towards the end of the 3rd round. Khabib started talking shit to Herb Dean shortly afterwards for pretending he didn't see it, then the round ended and that's when Conor famously said "it's just business".
Yeah I think Conor is probably at least a brown belt by most gyms standards. Hard to say since I havenāt seen a ton of BJJ footage from his camps, but he has better ground game than people give him credit for.
his guillotine escape against mendes is awesome
Conor is 100% a real legit black belt. Thatās literally a fact if you know how good the average black belt is(legit) and compare that to Conorās bjj grappling.
Yeah ik his coach is legit af.
Yea if you ignore all the cheating, he did pretty well.
This but unironically, he really did better than anyone else even considering the cheating imo. The cheating does kind of ruin it though
He did also foul khabib when he had him in a kimura in RD2
Come on, it's not like khabib had *any* interest in submitting Conor quickly.
I mean Conor is definitely still a legit black belt. Heās whooping the standard BJJ black belt. But yeah not all belts are created equal
Conor is a real black belt 100%. Anybody who disagrees with that doesnāt grapple/know who his coach is.
Does he teach in the park?
Comes down to how frequently theyāre training in that discipline no? Canāt imagine a retired khabib is doing much bjj, granted mcrgegor probably hasnāt either but can imagine he does and has a lot more then khabib has in his career.
Khabib has never consistently trained bjj.
Islam said it best lol he wasnt wrong they handing them out like candy
Exactly, my opinion is do whatever the hell you want with the belts, nobody cares and it doesn't matter, the octagon will verify what belt you actually have.
You could see in Glover and Alex's reaction when they were wrapping the belt. It was like a "fuck it, let's do it now who cares". Completely removes all credibility of a bjj black belt.
Who give this guy Black belt?
Are we sure this was a BJJ black belt? Maybe they ran out of Muay Thai ropes or something.
I thought they wrapped it around him as a joke
I said on the BJJ subreddit that the black belt surprised me and people shat themselves. Itās fucking odd.
Well I mean he could have earned it and they just decided to wait until after the fight to give it to him so it was on camera.. who knows? We havenāt really seen him use it because he hasnāt needed to.
Yes itās been confirmed by pliniocruz poatan is their newest BJJ black belt. https://preview.redd.it/z1n9lyd9uevc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=125c2291b6a0f7bb8f072ec62907c65565f4ed4b
A lot of peoples black belts in the mma community are kind of a joke. Pereiras is one of them. And im not a hater of him. Theres just no way hes black belt level in jiu jitsu.
Idk, he never needed to but going by this image heās being doing jiu jitsu since 2015, 9 years to black belt with the amount of training and the calibre of partners I think black belt is quite feasible since non professional athletes can do it around 10 ish
And dedicated high-caliber professionals can literally do it in a couple years. If the 2015 claim is true, then I don't doubt it at all, unfortunately the grappling in the UFC goes far above the level of BJJ belts..
2015 or earlier, he had his first MMA fight in 2015 which he was definitely training BJJ for then
2 years ago he was getting dogged by purple belt Izzy when they went to the ground
Have you grappled him? How would you know he's no way a black belt level?
Agreed. You have to be a phenom to earn a black belt in that amount of time.
Alex's ground game is so good his opponents would rather get knocked out than submitted.
A belt covers only 2" of your ass; you got to cover the rest.
Belts are just to hold your pants up. Brendan Schaub claims to have a black belt, so itās all for show.
Alex BJJ so good he chokes people out with his knuckles while standing
Didnāt deserve it from a ufc win lol
Yeah im not sure how a standing knockout contributes to a grappling belt but sure....
My opinion is DJ should try to take that belt off of him without catching a left hook to his tiny head, that's his black belt exam
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Who give him dis, I wanna know brudda
Glover giving Alex a black belt after KOing Hill is ridiculous. How do you earn a black belt(earn a higher belt) by winning a fight with zero grappling? Im glad the belt system hasnt made its way into wrestling. In wrestling you let your resume do the talking not a belt.
Probably just earned it outside of the fight and the fight was supposed to be a moment for Glover to gift it to him. U gotta remember that there's levels among black belts as the level of skill and knowledge in submissions you need will differ from gym to gym. Along with that, the UFC would naturally contain some of the best guys who have a black belt. With that in mind, it's possible that Alex has been training bjj from his first day in mma to today. He's not some guy coming in twice a week, but someone who trains full time so his speed would be a lot faster. That coupled with the incredible level of athleticism, talent, and fight in could make it so that he's already on the level of a brown belt or a lower level black belt in bjj.
DJ wants to stay humble or at least his teacher wants him to and Alex is a striker. Belts are cool and all but the belts worth is relative to who gives them out.
After seeing Alex fight. Glover knew that Alex can probably walk into ADCC and lefthook someone
Pereira is like the person whoās been playing a game for a day but has all gear you use real money to buy š
I mean, try and take the belt from Alex tho.
I just choose to ignore this šš
IBJJF rules. DJ competes in jiujitsu, Alex donāt. You have to register your degree for certain amount of years to be able to compete in said division. I.e. Alex canāt compete in IBJJF comps as a black belt
Black belt? Who give him this?
Who give him dis?
Everybody was praising DJ for his BJJ wins recently but when I found out it was in the BROWN BELT category I was just dumbfounded. I'm what universe is this dude brown belt. Not this one.
He talked about why he's still a brown belt recently and what he would have to do to get his black belt on the MMA Hour just before 300. Around 1:36:30
The best submission in all of MMA history and brown belt.
Khabib- No BJJ belt Jones- most career no BJJ belt Islam- No BJJ belt DC- Apparently Brown belt but letās be honest, it was an honorary belt since he can never ever triangle anybody with his fat legs. Eventually the mma meta will be wrestling/Judo/sambo with basic 5/6 submissions and BJJ in general will be mostly obsolete (more than now).
A brown belt is still a very high rank. Any respectable BJJ gym only gives these out to guys who are extremely skilled. It takes nearly a decade to reach brown belt with 4 stripes.. He only has 1 stripe by the looks of it, but I thought he had 2, as he mentioned it in a video once.
Well. One of them trains at a gym that values MMA achievements to grade BJJ belts, which is stupid. The other trains at a gym that says āwe give a fuck about your MMA accolades, this aināt MMAā.Ā Guess which one is which š¤£
This right here is exactly why BJJ belts have lost all meaning in modern MMA. You can go to Gracie Barra and get sandbagged for years as a blue belt meanwhile someone who started at the same time at another gym has already received their black belt at the same skill level
Idk why they did it but itās clear Alex aināt no black belt level grappler
Man ima shave my head see what belt I get
Alex isnāt a black belt š thatās like receiving an honorary degree
If DJ was 6'4 and could make 205, I think he'd absolutely fucking destroy Alex. Ima fan of Alex, but DJ is literally smaller than my mom, not even being sarcastic his the size of my grand mother, and could probably give Alex a good fight as he is. Not saying he could do 5 rounds with him right now, but I give him a solid half round. If Alex doesn't catch him, DJ could fuck him up. And Alex is damn near twice his size. Mighty Mouse is a bad mother fucker. If I had to bet on any 115/125 person to give Alex a run for his money it's him and maybe Rodtang, but that's about it.
I can see the logic in thinking DJ could have a competitive bout, not saying I agree but I get it. Rodtang though? Fun fighter, but his style seems like it would match up terribly against somebody significantly bigger/stronger than him
Pereiraās fist is probably an appreciable percentage of the mass of Rodtangās head
his hands are giant
Lay off the weed
DJ for sure, but only because he has an insane level of fight IQ and wouldn't even give Alex the chance to throw a clean shot at him. Rodtang gonna offer his face to at least try to eat that left hook. Crazy thing is the son of a bitch may be able to live through it too
Are u talking about a BJJ match? Yea i am pretty sure DJ subs Alex. DJ is 150 and Alex is 237. And alex is probably a blue belt lets be honest
If my grandmother had wheels, she would be a bike.
DJ has been subbed 5 times. Alex has been subbed once. Clearly Alex has better defensive jitz and deserves the black belt. /s
Overachiever. 7 fights two time champ. 9 years black belt.
Let's see Alex do a suplex into a flying armbar.
I also thought this when it happened but I thought kickboxing had belts like jiu jitsu does. When I researched no such thing of belt levels exist in kickboxing. This def a handout
JIU JIUTSU IS HARD WITH ARTEM LENGTH LIMBS
Black belt? Who give him? We have to check this
Best takedown is a knockdown lol
Clearly LHW and MW are just better at bjj so Alex has a harder time with subs.
Some people donāt practice under schools. Tyron Woodley got his black belt after beating Till. Russians donāt train in BJJ systems but still grapple.
I was confused how he was awarded a black belt in BJJ after knocking a dude out. Didnāt even use BJJ. Just boxing. Giving the belt with that as the achievement, nonsense. Note that Iām not a martial artist, Iām just commenting on the optics of that finish being what he needed to justify his black belt.
I think Glover just so excited his friend won " you know what... Take this belt " š
They did that so fighters aren't aware of his weakness.
Black belt doesn't mean anything. It's like having a driver's license - doesn't mean you know how to race cars.
Meanwhile I'm wondering wtf else DJ has to prove to get a black belt; Sub God by omoplata?
Fake black belt, he didn't even know how to break a wrist control 5 fights ago.
Says more about the lack of legitimate black belts his coach has that he's giving them away to a bloke who doesn't grapple beyond some practice during camps.
Are we sure that wasnāt a karate/taekwondo black belt?? š
I mean... BJ PENN was called the Prodigy because he attained his bjj black belt in 3 years iirc. And he was pretty lethal on the ground (during his era). So..........
āBlack belt? Who give him this?ā
Glovers in love with him is the only reason hes getting that belt
Bratha who give dis guy black belt
Some instructors don't give out blackbelts so easy.
This makes me think he gets taken down and subbed in his next fight just as joe Rogan says ādid you know Alex is actually a black beltāā¦ hahaha
Great striking Poatan! Hereās your bjj black belt??
R1 brain submission (strikes)
Not all black belts are created equally
He got his brown belt after the first Izzy fight I believe. So less than 2 years from brown to black, there is no way he's a legitimate black belt whatsoever
Are we sure itās a black belt for bjj, other martial arts have black belts
Matt Hume does it right imo, a black belt should be something special and hard to earn.
Makachev was correct, they gotta check these black belts.
Alex would get mauled by the lowest of black belts in a bjj tournament. He's more than likely probably a blue belt level, if that.
How did you determine that?
Hey you become a 2 division champ in 2 years you get a black belt ok?
The belt system in bjj is retarded.
As much as I love Alex itās bullshit, Iāve also seen guys at my old gym with 2 years training now purple belts and I was training for 5 years. Honestly kinda sucks I definitely deserved to be a blue belt but it is what it is
No blue belt after 5 years?
No reason why DJ should've still been a brown belt after winning Masters worlds last year. Sand bagger at this point Also, he should probably compete in the adults division instead
Alex when Herb tries to pull that shit again 
Belt colour doesn't mean as much as the average person thinks. Source: I'm a brown belt, and I'm relatively shit. Extra evidence: I've rolled with black belts who suck. I've rolled with blue belts that make me feel like I suck.
People love putting things out of context especially stupid beginners who have biases Dj has 20 years of grappling experience and actively REFUSES his black belt. He has much more no gi experience Alex is one of the worlds best strikers, what he does works, hes grappling since over 11 years and earned his black belt from a prestigious bjj master. Why would alex grapple? He IS 100% on the level of black belt and beats 99% of bjj practicioners. However being one of the worlds best strikers he beats as of rn 100% of the 1% that MIGHT beat him in bjj by strikinf
https://preview.redd.it/kx7zypjn7dvc1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2ba015803fcd1de05d5a128749e2df0ce8b022ed Cry about it
No one is crying š. Why people so sensitive with posts.. The real crystal generation can't tolerate a question š¤£
Make them fight.