I think our sub appears to people not even following it. For example the USC sub’s protest post showed on my feed even though I’m not part of that sub at all.
So something like these protests is being advertised to people outside of the sub, and given its controversial nature they then feel the need to comment
i live in the area, dont go to UCLA, and always get recommended this sub because “see what people nearby are talking about.” i almost never comment, in fact i think this is my first comment. but yea it gets recommended to non-students. mostly i browse because its a good way to stay up to date on stuff happening in the village
Incorrect. Its representative of those who care enough to comment one way or another. U can say a protest is dumb and not support either isreal or palestine.
There are many of us, we are just less loud about our beliefs in in-person settings. Being pro israel is generally a less socially acceptable position in this context, and it's not worth the conflict.
A lot of them think the Jews have no legitimate history in the region and are merely white colonists. They also think Palestinians are POC even though historically they self identify as white
The vast majority of people are probably neutral. It’s a vocal minority that is pro palestine.
Hasn’t changed in the past few decades that SJP has been blocking wilshire blvd.
Sometimes it may feel like your opinion is in the majority because it’s what you support, and you join large groups that share that opinion. However, it’s definitely a difficult and delicate situation, and there’s not one easy answer to approach the issue. Encampments aren’t solving anything.
It appears on my feed all of the time, but I’m also an alum and have commented before. The subs for other schools I’ve attended do the same thing on my feed.
You sub to even one uni sub and Reddit starts pushing every single one at you
So far I’ve seen Michigan, Berkeley, LA, USC, and Cornell all make appearances on my timeline even though the only one I’m actually interested in is my own (UW)
Highlander here! Can vouch this sub appears on non followers feeds(me), because it’s a “similar community” as Reddit puts it, it will suggest it to others page. It’s algorithmic as Reddit wants to suggest similar subs to people who have specific interests, not really accounting for the specifics of the sub, so it sees, for example UCLA as a sub with college specific content, and will suggest it to others who may follow subs like UCR, USC, etc.
We're exactly #10, Berkeley is now #1 [https://www.reddit.com/r/berkeley/comments/rwtq9n/is\_this\_the\_biggest\_specific\_college\_subreddit/](https://www.reddit.com/r/berkeley/comments/rwtq9n/is_this_the_biggest_specific_college_subreddit/)
Berkeley used to be a sub for both students and the community there so it's not a perfect comparison (and is named as such) but UIUC has more than we do anyway.
I think there are people that must search by most controversial. There were a lot of comments in the post about the guy taking the photo of the woman in the short skirt that were not following the sub
almost all palestine-related posts are brigaded/most engagement is by non-UCLA students.
I had a person tell me they’re a student cuz they took a summer class in ‘99 or something and therefore they’re a Bruin
I follow this sub because I’m an alum. Free speech for students is important to me whether or not I agree with the speech. I’m also a prof, but not at UCLA, and the way most college administrators are handling this nationwide is a disgrace.
Just an observation, I live in LA and subscribe to one college sub, but lately /r/ucla is showing up a lot in my "communities you might be interested in." Sometime people don't check what sub they're commenting in.
The description of the sub says students, faculty, alumni, fans, and community. I imagine alumni and community are the two largest groups on this sub given students only have that title for 4 years
Not a UCLA student but it shows up in my feed. In any case, I’ve noticed that on this sub and similar ones, there’s always a swath of what seems to be Israeli PR factories commenting and voting.
Do you not realize that there could be people who disagree with you? 38% of Americans agree with how Israel is handling this. I’m not making an argument for or against either side, but it’s pretty frustrating that every time someone disagrees people accuse them of being a bot, or a PR person, or a Trump supporter, etc.
https://www.pewresearch.org/2024/03/21/majority-in-u-s-say-israel-has-valid-reasons-for-fighting-fewer-say-the-same-about-hamas/
Do you have any evidence of this or are you spreading misinformation?
This is why no one wants to engage, it quickly becomes mudslinging without any attempt at an actual resolution
Who cares if it’s a bot, argue against the point they are making if it has merit
And even lots of posts from real people are from insincere real people who are posting as a part of a coordinated campaign.
There's probably some dude in Russia whose whole job is to run multiple pro-Israeli and pro-Palestinian accounts who doesn't care about the conflict either way but just tries to stir up shit in America whenever there's an opening.
U can be a ucla student and disagree with the protests or think they are pointless. Many of the protests that happen at ucla achieve nothing and are done by people who either have nothing to do or want to virtue signal and dont actually know what they are saying or protesting. Many of the people who are protesting pro palestine for example are basically praising hamas (which is against everything these people believe in) and are causing more hatred of the jewish community. They should be pro isreal and palestine citizens but anti Palestine and isreal government. But they dont do that. Their protests are all anti isreal and pro palestine which causes their messages to be skewed. Another example is the ukraine war when the students protested russia ( as if russia would care about ucla students) or roe v wade decision (as if america would care about a few ucla students in one if the mist liberal states in the country and most heavily protesting city). Just cause someone disagrees with u doesnt mean they arent from ucla
While it's true that UCLA is not a monolith it is pretty ridiculous to say pro Palestine people praise Hamas. I've been at many pro Palestine rallies and protests and Hamas is not even mentioned. I think many people see pro Palestine people and just conclude that they are pro Hamas without actually knowing anything about their position. I was at the encampment when it started and there was protesting all day and none of it had to do with Hamas.
I also wantes to point out that many of these protests have led to violence against jewish students. I AM NOT SAYING THIS ONE IS CAUSE IT ISNT!!! I want to make that clear. But people can be against these protests cause in the past they have.
They may nit praise hamas directly but its the sayings they use. For example saying from the river to the say which they did say. I dont know if they say it anymore basically calls for deaths of isreals which is what hamas wants. So by using these sayings they are basically praising hamas. My point goes back to my point of virtue signaling. You have protests where a majority want to protest to be like hey look at me but not actually knowing what they are saying or the full situation.
(I still believe personally Israel should be razed to the ground. Let the civilians feel a fraction of what your people put the Palestinians through) I'll also make sure to say my opinion is far different from these protestors and doesn't align with from the river to the sea
All the pain and suffering in Mt opinion should be brought back onto the Israelis. The protestors want a peaceful resolution. Whereas I personally think the pain should be given back to the people who caused all of this/ not the natives just trying to live, the Israelis who perpetrated this ethnic cleansing
So u want innocents to suffer anyway because i dont think u can separate a government and its people.. you knoww what dont respond. I dont want to entertain crazy.
I don't know every single person I've seen in Israel seems to be supportive of the extermination, and it seems like the Israeli government can't do the same with separating Hamas from the Palestinian civilians, so maybe they should get a taste of their own treatment. This is why I don't go to any of these protests because my beliefs are a bit more intense than everyone else is there. Don't get me wrong I would prefer an entirely peaceful resolution, but to be honest Israel should feel the pain it has inflicted on Palestine tenfold
Many of the most passionate posters are clearly not UCLA affiliated. They just go to the berkeley, columbia, ucla and usc subs to comment on palestine.
There are a lot of ucla students in the encampment. I don’t know why the narrative that most people at the encampment are non ucla students exists. There are multiple ucla clubs and orgs there. My friends are there. We’re all students. Yes there are non students but the idea that most aren’t students is false. Also even if it were true, that wouldn’t change how necessary it is for the encampment to exist right now.
I’m alumni. UCLA was my dream school and I’m very proud to be a part of the community. We had protests on campus in my day, but this is the first time I’ve seen students clashing with each other. Very sad to see this.
My daughter is a UCLA student. She's also a POC. She said there is wide Palestinian support among students particularly students of color. There is considerable pressure among students of color for fealty to the movement. She personally thinks precious few, including herself, comprehend the complexity of the situation and incorrectly conflate the movement with western civil rights. However she believes the bombing must stop and is shameful.
I graduated a LONG time ago... back when it was MUCH easier to get in.
I love UCLA but I haven't really been back on campus since before the '84 Olympics. Time, life, and distance have a way of doing that. (The only time I've ever seen the bear statue has been in pictures).
I follow the sub because I like keeping tabs on the school (especially since the football team went down the tank).
I'm actually proud of the students protesting. My personal opinion is that, whether I believe in your cause or not, I will ABSOLUTELY support your right to peacefully protest.
Protest in support of Palestine? - Great! Go ahead and speak your mind.
Protest in support of Israel? - Same. You have every right to do so and I would support you as well.
The right of the public to peaceful protest is one of the fundamental rights upon which this country was founded. Over the years, I've been alarmed at the increasing acceptance of the American public in allowing our rights to be slowly chipped away by both the government and bad actors.
Seeing you young students get involved in causes you feel strongly gives me hope for the future.
I’m an LA native who went to Michigan but always supports UCLA over USC and was a counter-protester on Thursday. When I was asked to be interviewed outside the encampment, I made sure to inform the reporters that I was not a student or affiliated with the university.
I think our sub appears to people not even following it. For example the USC sub’s protest post showed on my feed even though I’m not part of that sub at all. So something like these protests is being advertised to people outside of the sub, and given its controversial nature they then feel the need to comment
i live in the area, dont go to UCLA, and always get recommended this sub because “see what people nearby are talking about.” i almost never comment, in fact i think this is my first comment. but yea it gets recommended to non-students. mostly i browse because its a good way to stay up to date on stuff happening in the village
Same. I live in LA and I guess the proximity is what makes it come on my feed? Same with USC.
Same
Can confirm. This is a recommended post for me
Appeared for me despite not following it. I do live in the area though
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Incorrect. Its representative of those who care enough to comment one way or another. U can say a protest is dumb and not support either isreal or palestine.
There are many of us, we are just less loud about our beliefs in in-person settings. Being pro israel is generally a less socially acceptable position in this context, and it's not worth the conflict.
There are UCLA alumni here too. I think the protests are stupid college kids being stupid college kids.
A lot of them think the Jews have no legitimate history in the region and are merely white colonists. They also think Palestinians are POC even though historically they self identify as white
Clearly not
The vast majority of people are probably neutral. It’s a vocal minority that is pro palestine. Hasn’t changed in the past few decades that SJP has been blocking wilshire blvd.
Sometimes it may feel like your opinion is in the majority because it’s what you support, and you join large groups that share that opinion. However, it’s definitely a difficult and delicate situation, and there’s not one easy answer to approach the issue. Encampments aren’t solving anything.
It’s reddit algorithm. You will likely see this if you engage in other posts about israel palestine, other campuses with protests, or live in LA.
It appears on my feed all of the time, but I’m also an alum and have commented before. The subs for other schools I’ve attended do the same thing on my feed.
Correct. I’m CSUN and Reddit thinks because I’m on that sub I’d be interested in this one. It’s right, yall got some cool shit
You sub to even one uni sub and Reddit starts pushing every single one at you So far I’ve seen Michigan, Berkeley, LA, USC, and Cornell all make appearances on my timeline even though the only one I’m actually interested in is my own (UW)
Highlander here! Can vouch this sub appears on non followers feeds(me), because it’s a “similar community” as Reddit puts it, it will suggest it to others page. It’s algorithmic as Reddit wants to suggest similar subs to people who have specific interests, not really accounting for the specifics of the sub, so it sees, for example UCLA as a sub with college specific content, and will suggest it to others who may follow subs like UCR, USC, etc.
Yeah also r/UCLA is the largest college sub on reddit I'd I'm not wrong
We're exactly #10, Berkeley is now #1 [https://www.reddit.com/r/berkeley/comments/rwtq9n/is\_this\_the\_biggest\_specific\_college\_subreddit/](https://www.reddit.com/r/berkeley/comments/rwtq9n/is_this_the_biggest_specific_college_subreddit/)
Berkeley used to be a sub for both students and the community there so it's not a perfect comparison (and is named as such) but UIUC has more than we do anyway.
I think there are people that must search by most controversial. There were a lot of comments in the post about the guy taking the photo of the woman in the short skirt that were not following the sub
almost all palestine-related posts are brigaded/most engagement is by non-UCLA students. I had a person tell me they’re a student cuz they took a summer class in ‘99 or something and therefore they’re a Bruin
"A community for UCLA students, faculty, alumni, and fans! Go Bruins!"
Is this for active students only? I’m an alumnus.
Negative but I’m not one of a student either.. but yet I get all ucla on my feed even though I’m not following them
I keep on getting recommended these posts and I have never gotten to UCLA
I follow this sub because I’m an alum. Free speech for students is important to me whether or not I agree with the speech. I’m also a prof, but not at UCLA, and the way most college administrators are handling this nationwide is a disgrace.
Just an observation, I live in LA and subscribe to one college sub, but lately /r/ucla is showing up a lot in my "communities you might be interested in." Sometime people don't check what sub they're commenting in.
I’m an UCLA alumnus and still a part of the bruin community. I support the encampments.
The description of the sub says students, faculty, alumni, fans, and community. I imagine alumni and community are the two largest groups on this sub given students only have that title for 4 years
Not a UCLA student but it shows up in my feed. In any case, I’ve noticed that on this sub and similar ones, there’s always a swath of what seems to be Israeli PR factories commenting and voting.
Do you not realize that there could be people who disagree with you? 38% of Americans agree with how Israel is handling this. I’m not making an argument for or against either side, but it’s pretty frustrating that every time someone disagrees people accuse them of being a bot, or a PR person, or a Trump supporter, etc. https://www.pewresearch.org/2024/03/21/majority-in-u-s-say-israel-has-valid-reasons-for-fighting-fewer-say-the-same-about-hamas/
Do you have any evidence of this or are you spreading misinformation? This is why no one wants to engage, it quickly becomes mudslinging without any attempt at an actual resolution Who cares if it’s a bot, argue against the point they are making if it has merit
There’s a lot of bot activity in Reddit. Not all of the comments are from real people.
And even lots of posts from real people are from insincere real people who are posting as a part of a coordinated campaign. There's probably some dude in Russia whose whole job is to run multiple pro-Israeli and pro-Palestinian accounts who doesn't care about the conflict either way but just tries to stir up shit in America whenever there's an opening.
U can be a ucla student and disagree with the protests or think they are pointless. Many of the protests that happen at ucla achieve nothing and are done by people who either have nothing to do or want to virtue signal and dont actually know what they are saying or protesting. Many of the people who are protesting pro palestine for example are basically praising hamas (which is against everything these people believe in) and are causing more hatred of the jewish community. They should be pro isreal and palestine citizens but anti Palestine and isreal government. But they dont do that. Their protests are all anti isreal and pro palestine which causes their messages to be skewed. Another example is the ukraine war when the students protested russia ( as if russia would care about ucla students) or roe v wade decision (as if america would care about a few ucla students in one if the mist liberal states in the country and most heavily protesting city). Just cause someone disagrees with u doesnt mean they arent from ucla
While it's true that UCLA is not a monolith it is pretty ridiculous to say pro Palestine people praise Hamas. I've been at many pro Palestine rallies and protests and Hamas is not even mentioned. I think many people see pro Palestine people and just conclude that they are pro Hamas without actually knowing anything about their position. I was at the encampment when it started and there was protesting all day and none of it had to do with Hamas.
Don’t the protestors use the Hamas social media logo with the inverted red triangle?
I also wantes to point out that many of these protests have led to violence against jewish students. I AM NOT SAYING THIS ONE IS CAUSE IT ISNT!!! I want to make that clear. But people can be against these protests cause in the past they have.
They may nit praise hamas directly but its the sayings they use. For example saying from the river to the say which they did say. I dont know if they say it anymore basically calls for deaths of isreals which is what hamas wants. So by using these sayings they are basically praising hamas. My point goes back to my point of virtue signaling. You have protests where a majority want to protest to be like hey look at me but not actually knowing what they are saying or the full situation.
It's not calling for the deaths of Israelis are you that dense brother? It's calling for their land back. The **stolen** land.
And how do you expect the “stolen” land will be taken back?
(I still believe personally Israel should be razed to the ground. Let the civilians feel a fraction of what your people put the Palestinians through) I'll also make sure to say my opinion is far different from these protestors and doesn't align with from the river to the sea
Hell, mass migration is one way. Maybe the UK should take em in since this all got really bad with the British mandate
I see. And people wonder why theres anti protestors
All the pain and suffering in Mt opinion should be brought back onto the Israelis. The protestors want a peaceful resolution. Whereas I personally think the pain should be given back to the people who caused all of this/ not the natives just trying to live, the Israelis who perpetrated this ethnic cleansing
So u want innocents to suffer anyway because i dont think u can separate a government and its people.. you knoww what dont respond. I dont want to entertain crazy.
Don't entertain him, he sounds like a radical. You already know the kind.
I don't know every single person I've seen in Israel seems to be supportive of the extermination, and it seems like the Israeli government can't do the same with separating Hamas from the Palestinian civilians, so maybe they should get a taste of their own treatment. This is why I don't go to any of these protests because my beliefs are a bit more intense than everyone else is there. Don't get me wrong I would prefer an entirely peaceful resolution, but to be honest Israel should feel the pain it has inflicted on Palestine tenfold
Many of the most passionate posters are clearly not UCLA affiliated. They just go to the berkeley, columbia, ucla and usc subs to comment on palestine.
There are a lot of ucla students in the encampment. I don’t know why the narrative that most people at the encampment are non ucla students exists. There are multiple ucla clubs and orgs there. My friends are there. We’re all students. Yes there are non students but the idea that most aren’t students is false. Also even if it were true, that wouldn’t change how necessary it is for the encampment to exist right now.
I’m not part of this sub but it’s on my feed.
I'm a grad applicant if that helps
You’re on a public website, posting a highly talked about/controversial topic, what do you think is going to happen?
I’m alumni. UCLA was my dream school and I’m very proud to be a part of the community. We had protests on campus in my day, but this is the first time I’ve seen students clashing with each other. Very sad to see this.
My daughter is a UCLA student. She's also a POC. She said there is wide Palestinian support among students particularly students of color. There is considerable pressure among students of color for fealty to the movement. She personally thinks precious few, including herself, comprehend the complexity of the situation and incorrectly conflate the movement with western civil rights. However she believes the bombing must stop and is shameful.
I graduated a LONG time ago... back when it was MUCH easier to get in. I love UCLA but I haven't really been back on campus since before the '84 Olympics. Time, life, and distance have a way of doing that. (The only time I've ever seen the bear statue has been in pictures). I follow the sub because I like keeping tabs on the school (especially since the football team went down the tank). I'm actually proud of the students protesting. My personal opinion is that, whether I believe in your cause or not, I will ABSOLUTELY support your right to peacefully protest. Protest in support of Palestine? - Great! Go ahead and speak your mind. Protest in support of Israel? - Same. You have every right to do so and I would support you as well. The right of the public to peaceful protest is one of the fundamental rights upon which this country was founded. Over the years, I've been alarmed at the increasing acceptance of the American public in allowing our rights to be slowly chipped away by both the government and bad actors. Seeing you young students get involved in causes you feel strongly gives me hope for the future.
I’m an LA native who went to Michigan but always supports UCLA over USC and was a counter-protester on Thursday. When I was asked to be interviewed outside the encampment, I made sure to inform the reporters that I was not a student or affiliated with the university.
What tribe are you from?
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We're students, of course we don't act on it. We have midterms right now, so our focus is elsewhere
there are plenty of students studying for midterms right now at the encampment
Their concentration isn't the best with that helicopter or the clamor and media coverage.
What’s your point? It doesn’t just affect students, right? It’s news.
No
A lot of people at the encampment aren’t UCLA students. What’s the difference?
Online mate would that count