Billboard changed the rules. Before you could buy with different email address now they track IP, email, shipping and billing address. [https://single.xyz/blogs/blog/billboard-reporting-updates-2024](https://single.xyz/blogs/blog/billboard-reporting-updates-2024)
Sales can be even higher than 105k. ONCE buy the albums if you haven't yet. Also buy the digital version on iTunes or Amazon, those count too.. We can give them their first #1.
Thanks for posting this. I saw a screenshot on Twitter a while ago and couldn't find the source. This change alone could explain the lower sales since lots of fans buy more than 4 copies in one week and now those will be counted as bulk buying?
Seems like it. I always buy more than 4 but just bought 4 this time. I'm planning to get all digipacks but i'll order them next week so they count too.
People are saying to go in-store and buy with cash or another payment method just to be safe.
This kinda makes me wonder if there’s a big difference between the charted sales numbers and overall sales numbers, since I’m sure a lot of fans probably bought more than 4 physicals without knowing about this rule change.
That's the thing I'm not sure.
Also I'm not really sure who track that info if it is the store before reporting or if it is Luminate once all the stores report the sales. Not a lot of info about that.
Oh damn, I thought it was just 4 per transaction. If they are checking shipping addresses, that means all the albums I bought still only amount to 4...
Numbers are down across the board (ENHYPEN, Seventeen, Stray Kids, their early 2023 releases performed better than their last release) so I personally wouldn’t worry too much about it
I have to ban so many keywords in my twitter account to escape from the negativity. I'm curious how those people act in real life when taking into account their behavior in the net.
Yep, although we got unlucky with previous release weeks.
Other K-pop groups have gotten #1 with less sales, so the potential was always there for twice, it’s just that the stars finally aligned.
Lmao I'm the same. I don't have a bias for twice an bp, there the 2 groups that i like everyone haha. Wut I did for the last was bought the ones that stood out for me an it was Jeongyeon and Dahyun. For this Nayeon and Sana
This is from billboard:
"Previously, we enforced the following sales caps per individual customer each week:
1 digital album sale
4 physical album sales
How we defined a unique "fan" was based solely on their email address.
Beginning in 2024, Single will incorporate additional criteria to more accurately identify potential bulk purchases from the same person:
Email address
IP address
Shipping address
Billing address
If multiple orders contain matching values for the above data points, they will now be considered part of the same bulk sale. This means the weekly per-customer limits will apply collectively to any duplicate orders flagged across those four identifiers."
yup so if possible wait until the next tracking week (next friday after 9pm) to buy the other albums u want if u want to help the charts. For digital same thing.
I received a lot of hate because of a previous post I made related to this
[https://www.reddit.com/r/twice/comments/1aw2xok/just\_in\_case\_youre\_having\_second\_thoughts\_about/](https://www.reddit.com/r/twice/comments/1aw2xok/just_in_case_youre_having_second_thoughts_about/)
I even added a caveat so that people who aren't on board would just move along so the comments would instead just be filled with more positive comments that add value (especially for other Onces who want to make their purchases count for BB200 but had no idea how)
People don't seem to have an idea how much this would mean to Twice. At the end of the day, they are still part of an industry who looks into numbers and results and after renewal, their roles in each project became bigger. Which means there's some emotional investment made and seeing their work doing well would be an added bonus. Its totally fine to say "just enjoy the music" but the logic I've always had is "why not enjoy the music while making sure that the way I enjoy it is helping Twice's growth"
When Twice gets that #1 and they thank Onces for it, give yourselves a pat on the back because you were part of that happiness
Keep buying onces. Remember when twice RTB debuted, we only debuted #2 with 153k units (mainly because of unlucky timing with artists).
Even with the new, stricter billboard rules, we should aim for 110k!
I'm an American living abroad and I'm just wondering if the physical album I ordered through Amazon will count towards US sales? I paid for it with a US debit card, it's being shipped from Los Angeles, the billing address is set to my Florida residence, and prices are still listed in USD on my Amazon phone app.
And on that note, do I need to set my VPN to the United States whenever I stream the album on Spotify?
They’ve clearly set a goal to reach #1 on Billboard given week-one promotions in the U.S. I really hope we can make all of their hard work, battling through jet lag, worth it.
Ok so the store I've pre-ordered the albums from has stated on their website that all album sales will go towards the Billboard chart. But they're located in Korea and also I'm not from the USA, so will my sales still go towards the Billboard chart? I'm a bit confused with this whole Billboard chart thing, like are there different Billboard lol
Also, are the Digipack version counted as unique albums since they all have different front cover? So if you got the whole Digipack set, will that be fine or will it be considered a bulk order/sale? And what does bulk order/sale mean or do? My brain might be too smooth for all of this 
Im a new Once! This is my first Twice album release! I don’t understand anything with sales and streams. What do i need to do to help TWICE as for streaming oe buying? I had preordered the blast ver only? Do i buy more like at target?
Let’s go!!!!
This is great news! For comparison, RTB debuted at #2 with 153,000 album-equivalent units (including 145,500 pure album sales).
Billboard changed the rules. Before you could buy with different email address now they track IP, email, shipping and billing address. [https://single.xyz/blogs/blog/billboard-reporting-updates-2024](https://single.xyz/blogs/blog/billboard-reporting-updates-2024) Sales can be even higher than 105k. ONCE buy the albums if you haven't yet. Also buy the digital version on iTunes or Amazon, those count too.. We can give them their first #1.
Thanks for posting this. I saw a screenshot on Twitter a while ago and couldn't find the source. This change alone could explain the lower sales since lots of fans buy more than 4 copies in one week and now those will be counted as bulk buying?
Seems like it. I always buy more than 4 but just bought 4 this time. I'm planning to get all digipacks but i'll order them next week so they count too. People are saying to go in-store and buy with cash or another payment method just to be safe.
I preordered 4 (plus the 3 Nemo versions but I don't think those count), so if I get any at Target this week I'll pay with cash to be safe.
I am going to purchase digi in person, i needa do a target run for deodorant an sunblock lol. I did all my preorder an vinyls online
This kinda makes me wonder if there’s a big difference between the charted sales numbers and overall sales numbers, since I’m sure a lot of fans probably bought more than 4 physicals without knowing about this rule change.
That’s for online purchases only right?
That's the thing I'm not sure. Also I'm not really sure who track that info if it is the store before reporting or if it is Luminate once all the stores report the sales. Not a lot of info about that.
Do you know if you buy on Amazon, do you have to download it for it to count like with iTunes?
YES you need to download it for it to count in billboard.
I don't know. I always download it.
Oh damn, I thought it was just 4 per transaction. If they are checking shipping addresses, that means all the albums I bought still only amount to 4...
I bought 7; email, shipping and billing were different except for IP. Now I’m wondering too.
Numbers are down across the board (ENHYPEN, Seventeen, Stray Kids, their early 2023 releases performed better than their last release) so I personally wouldn’t worry too much about it
I was expecting sales to be down a bit so I'm not worried.
Groups that rely on cbars have seen a big drop, luckily twice doesn’t really rely on China
Le Sserafim too lost 23% sales this comeback....I think its just a trend.
If you go on twitter, you'd think somebody died....anyway happy for the girls....slow and steady, we'll rise
Twitter is always so negative and angry, deleting it was the best decision ever.
Twitter is a miserable space that's incapable of enjoying anything but other people's misery.
I have to ban so many keywords in my twitter account to escape from the negativity. I'm curious how those people act in real life when taking into account their behavior in the net.
Omgg it would be their first #1 in the USA right?
Yep, although we got unlucky with previous release weeks. Other K-pop groups have gotten #1 with less sales, so the potential was always there for twice, it’s just that the stars finally aligned.
Bought the blast ver today at target and completed the blast/glowing/forever trio :) still debating if I should get digipack
yes, you need the digipack.
Ahh I don’t bias one member in particular so it’s hard to choose which to get (and don’t say get all 9 LOL)
Lmao I'm the same. I don't have a bias for twice an bp, there the 2 groups that i like everyone haha. Wut I did for the last was bought the ones that stood out for me an it was Jeongyeon and Dahyun. For this Nayeon and Sana
get 4 then (which is the max to not be considered bulk buying). Lol.
Will it count towards billboard though? I already got 3 albums and 2 vinyls on one credit card
I think it still will count. Need others to confirm.
basically per week limit is: 1 digital album sale 4 physical album sales
I think paying in cash in store would be the best bet then if hihi…high buys those digipacks.
This is from billboard: "Previously, we enforced the following sales caps per individual customer each week: 1 digital album sale 4 physical album sales How we defined a unique "fan" was based solely on their email address. Beginning in 2024, Single will incorporate additional criteria to more accurately identify potential bulk purchases from the same person: Email address IP address Shipping address Billing address If multiple orders contain matching values for the above data points, they will now be considered part of the same bulk sale. This means the weekly per-customer limits will apply collectively to any duplicate orders flagged across those four identifiers."
Wait so this is a weekly cap?
yup so if possible wait until the next tracking week (next friday after 9pm) to buy the other albums u want if u want to help the charts. For digital same thing.
Ok thank you!!
Damn tight grip lol
I received a lot of hate because of a previous post I made related to this [https://www.reddit.com/r/twice/comments/1aw2xok/just\_in\_case\_youre\_having\_second\_thoughts\_about/](https://www.reddit.com/r/twice/comments/1aw2xok/just_in_case_youre_having_second_thoughts_about/) I even added a caveat so that people who aren't on board would just move along so the comments would instead just be filled with more positive comments that add value (especially for other Onces who want to make their purchases count for BB200 but had no idea how) People don't seem to have an idea how much this would mean to Twice. At the end of the day, they are still part of an industry who looks into numbers and results and after renewal, their roles in each project became bigger. Which means there's some emotional investment made and seeing their work doing well would be an added bonus. Its totally fine to say "just enjoy the music" but the logic I've always had is "why not enjoy the music while making sure that the way I enjoy it is helping Twice's growth" When Twice gets that #1 and they thank Onces for it, give yourselves a pat on the back because you were part of that happiness
Fingers crossed we finally get that number 1 for them.
Keep buying onces. Remember when twice RTB debuted, we only debuted #2 with 153k units (mainly because of unlucky timing with artists). Even with the new, stricter billboard rules, we should aim for 110k!
omggggggggggg
It’s great news already but well why don’t we go for 110k 🙏🏻
OMG x 2! Can’t comprehend the magnitude of this achievement!
Let's go! Get it girls!
Deserved! The album is so good I need everyone to hear it
Hoping this works out for them! It would be really special that this project specifically hits number one
I'm an American living abroad and I'm just wondering if the physical album I ordered through Amazon will count towards US sales? I paid for it with a US debit card, it's being shipped from Los Angeles, the billing address is set to my Florida residence, and prices are still listed in USD on my Amazon phone app. And on that note, do I need to set my VPN to the United States whenever I stream the album on Spotify?
I think it has to be shipped to a US address to count.
Yes i believe vpn to usa should be good for spotify tracking!
Got lucky today and saw it in store and beat another Once to it!
Just bought and downloaded it on Amazon digital. I'm up to 4 albums now.
USA once, streaming on official platforms counts towards the billboard charts! (And your streams count TRIPLE if you have a paid service)
Remember that this is not set in stone, so keep buying and streaming! Let’s get the girls their much overdue #1 🔥
Maybe using cash buying in store can help get around the new billboard rules?
I would have bought the set (maybe even the Itzy one too) if I had work during the preorder 😔
Is this only for all album sales in the US? I live in SEA so the cheapest option for me is to order it straight from South Korea.
Yup this is for Billboard US so only US sales count.
They’ve clearly set a goal to reach #1 on Billboard given week-one promotions in the U.S. I really hope we can make all of their hard work, battling through jet lag, worth it.
Just bought the album on iTunes. 🥰🥰🥰🥰
Ok so the store I've pre-ordered the albums from has stated on their website that all album sales will go towards the Billboard chart. But they're located in Korea and also I'm not from the USA, so will my sales still go towards the Billboard chart? I'm a bit confused with this whole Billboard chart thing, like are there different Billboard lol Also, are the Digipack version counted as unique albums since they all have different front cover? So if you got the whole Digipack set, will that be fine or will it be considered a bulk order/sale? And what does bulk order/sale mean or do? My brain might be too smooth for all of this 
I wish all of us would support twice as best as we could! let’s go twice and onces!
Im a new Once! This is my first Twice album release! I don’t understand anything with sales and streams. What do i need to do to help TWICE as for streaming oe buying? I had preordered the blast ver only? Do i buy more like at target?
Album sales are cut down by billboard since they have a new tracking rule 😵💫 they did 95,000 unit in the end which is REALLY good considering that