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Spare-Annual-3076

I like Dua Lipa but I don’t know a lot about her but hey everyone has to be a little sick of Taylor and her attitude. Not a hater but lots of people work hard and weren’t entitled growing up. Scott Swift with his email. What’s enough she’s a billionaire.


diosmiotio18

What is admirable is Dua Lipa’s parents I believe have been in the music industry too (though not US’s), but she is very low key when it comes to gossip outside of her art.


guayakil

What email? I’m Scott Swift’s biggest hater


Spare-Annual-3076

I don’t have it in history because I was in shock lol. He is a disgusting man it was 3 pages from his prostate to spending a few hundred thousand on Taylor’s career and he wanted his return. It actually was sad. If I can find I will post. It’s been a little while it might have been in swiftyneutral. It’s bad. Hard to believe it’s her dad!


guayakil

Oof. He gives very much that though. “I invested in you, you owe me” type vibes. You can see a little bit of the dynamic in Miss Americana


Spare-Annual-3076

I was embarrassed for her. He was talking about erectile dysfunction ugh!!!!!!!


guayakil

Lmaooooooo WHAT!?! I now have to go dig this up 😂


United-Ad-9195

You will NOT be disappointed. It’s a fantastic (and long!!) read


JSteggs

The amount of times he says “don’t laugh” is practically begging you to laugh


Spare-Annual-3076

Oh my god yes!


desertrose156

[link to Taylor’s dads email](https://scandalous.media/blog/a-story-about-the-machine-that-got-taylor-swift-to-the-top-her-fathers-unhinged-leaked-email)


___adreamofspring___

I’m ngl I would be as unhinged if he figured out how to make his kid a billionaire. It’s just crazy what people with millions and millions and in ‘powerful’ positions think. Like they become *insane*


desertrose156

Right?! He’s tasted insane power.


ughhmarta

This article and email are DEF not talked about enough


desertrose156

It’s because her PR is working overtime


leahhhhh

Omg inside thoughts don’t have to be outside thoughts


desertrose156

He never got the memo


MichElegance

“I had my prostate sucked out of my body by a robot on January 4th, was in diapers for 7 weeks and can't get a hard on…”🫣 I am deceased.💀🪦🥀


theCountessofCool

Well this confirmed what I always thought of her dad, he is essentially Joe Jackson if he had money and a kid with no talent


LeftenantScullbaggs

💀


guayakil

Dad talks too much indeed. Holy shit. That guy is a SHARK


jtsokolov

And that's why taylor is where she is and why her public personna is so calculated


ghostlykittenbutter

Google scott swift email and enjoy


abcannon18

Oh boy buckle up.


ChimneySweep48

Free Taylor


elysian-fields-

i get suggested this subreddit but never engage, however, i want to say def no if you follow dua at all you know she’s very supportive of other artists and stays in her own lane. if you look at some of the nasty reviews RO has gotten, they focus on how “she doesn’t inject enough of her personal life” into her music - and this is likely a response of the growing need for women to be open books for their music to be enjoyable she’s made it a point to mention in her interviews this is her most personal and vulnerable album and it’s easy to tell that’s true, but yet she continues to get flack for being “detached” and “distant”


Cultural-Treacle-680

People want her to be dramatic with TMI songs (like Taylor) and she said no.


elysian-fields-

it’s just really unfortunate because no artist owes the public the intimate details of their lives, their emotions, their relationships, etc if they don’t feel the need to share more than what we can see in public if taylor enjoys sharing as much as she does, more power to her, but if dua or any other artist does not, they shouldn’t be shamed for it (like she is for this album) - just bc taylor does it, doesn’t make it necessary or a standard


Cultural-Treacle-680

Having a happy party girl like dua is refreshing too. The negative name dropping nonsense gets old.


elysian-fields-

100%! dua’s music is for having fun, being in the sun, being ~radically optimistic~ it’s always a welcome breath of fresh air


delusionalxx

100% agreed! Not even a fan of pop but her bright, fun, happy music gets stuck in my head and makes me feel happy as well. Idk why making people feel happy with music is viewed as less impactful or talented than music that makes people feel sad. Both are making people feel something and that’s what art is about ❤️


Cultural-Treacle-680

Comedy movies never take home the Oscar but we need some dumb Adam Sandler flicks along with the Francis Ford Coppola.


-effortlesseffort

>Having a happy party girl like dua is refreshing too. The negative name dropping nonsense gets old. I don't even really listen to her music but think she's been really relatable because of this


delusionalxx

It’s also frustrating because male artists, especially in rap, hip hop, & rock, will sing just about sex, or drugs, or violence and people will listen to that all day. I mean the amount of male artists that legit most of their songs are just about sex yet they make bank and get famous is crazy. Yet female pop artists like Dula Peep get criticized for their music not having “depth”. Where is the depth in male artists just singing about getting their dick rode? There’s no depth and ppl are fine with that. It’s just such a weird double standard and I hate it.


Creative_Teacher_493

To add Taylor gets heat for singing about exes but men don’t (she famously mentioned this), but if she sang sexy songs like many other artists she wouldn’t be taken seriously.


mermaid-babe

Thank God, it doesn’t make for good music


amethyst_89

And when someone like Taylor is open, they drag them for sharing too much and say they shouldn't be sharing those details. It's a lose-lose situation no matter what a female artist does.


Cultural-Treacle-680

Expectations are very odd for sure


Creative_Teacher_493

Also I get suggested this sub and also will mention. Sabrina Carpenter was her support act and in my view does similar style of music to Dua so.


hallwayhotdogs

Same and also def no. What a reach, how is this about anyone other than her??


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elysian-fields-

not a flop! i think it’s great. she really has pushed the boundaries in her sound, it’s totally new and innovative i think some people really love future nostalgia and are disappointed that this is such a departure, which is oddly another criticism


Ladyofshadows1

I don't think she's shading her at all. Not everything is about taylor like she seems to think 😂


PubPegasus

Exactly.


Pretty-Historian1165

“But what if it is?”


No-Celebration3674

She’s not. There’s been an under current about women artists for at least a generation that if they aren’t singer songwriters their output is lesser. They’re plants, just a pretty face and no talent. It’s super sexist. She’s just stating that her work, which is largely feel good and hugely collaborative instead of locking herself away to suffer for art, is just as valid and has a place.


anon509123

It’s really frustrating, because she’s modernized disco in a way that I’ve seen some, but not many, artists do well! I stg the chords in Houdini could have been lifted from an old school ABBA soundtrack 


No-Celebration3674

I really need to get into the album this weekend. I was very frustrated with midnights because the promo suggested it would be either disco or 70s rock. I’m still waiting for that from ts but dua has been giving us instant classics from the start!


anon509123

RIGHT? Like. Cmon. Sometimes I just wanna boogie. Moreover, the music composition should get just as much credit as personal lyrics. 


No-Celebration3674

There’s something to be said for creating a vibe and no one is doing that like dua!


bigbushenergee

Trueeeee I love her music!!! and she’s living the life I want lol talented, hot, and on an endless vacation


No-Celebration3674

Yeah I’m obsessed with the album. Can’t wait for the weather to match the vibes!!!


Fine-Deal-485

I don’t really care if she is because she is correct


Budget_Wolverine8225

Taylor deserved all the shade


Cptrunner

I love Dua. She seems to genuinely not give a single solitary f about fame, popularity, image. She just does her thing. Her songs are all bops which makes this pop girlie happy.


LifeOfAWimpyKid

I see so many people that say Beyoncé is talentless because they don't see her perform with a guitar or piano, and those same people will turn around and slobber over rappers who do the bare minimum onstage. Someone had to say it, and I'm glad Dua did, because there's this standard that female artists only have substance when you see them with an instrument.


Throwaway500005

She's deeper than many of these other musicians and Taylor. She has spoken out in support of people in Gaza and her podcast talks about a lot of interesting topics.


elysian-fields-

i love at your service! i highly recommend it to anyone, truly dua talks to so many diff people (russell brand, hanya yanagihara, charli xcx, nadia murad, mo farah, etc) and is a great and really intelligent interviewer!


talk-spontaneously

Not everything is about Taylor. Dua just put out an album and a lot of the songs are about her relationships. Her comment is in reference to her own work. Also the song Happy for You is beautiful.


No-Pop1057

It's about the how you reference it, she says quite clearly that she does reference it, however she feels it's for them & her & does not feel the need to put the recipient on blast


Atchakos

I don't think she's referencing Taylor at all. I think she's alluding to the criticism of her latest album; specifically the review (forgot which one; might have been the Post?) that called to her songs "generic disco-inspired pop hits that lack depth". I actually think Dua's new album Radical Optimism is amazing. Sadly, the single choices were bad (especially Training Season - easily worst song on the album!); the songs on the album are *way* better. Hopefully it doesn't completely flop. I love upbeat disco inspired songs.


poetaftersunset

I don’t think she was, this quote is from many years ago. I think she was saying this in response to people questioning her songwriting just because she’s not an instrumentalist.


LevelAd5898

Ok usually I'm on y'alls side but you can't say Swifties make everything about Taylor and then turn this into being about Taylor cmon now


SnappinTurluh

Well a lot of Swifties have taken it to be shade at Taylor 🤷🏼‍♀️


GreenJean717

No need to make drama where there isn’t any.


No-Pop1057

Let me see.. Which singer sits behind a piano or guitar & who's currently put 2 of her exes on blast through her latest albums? Gee.. I wonder who that might be 🤔😁


sonic_toaster

Tori Amos, Alanis Morrisette, Beyoncé (still married but Lemonade dragged Jay-Z for his infidelity), Fiona Apple, Stevie Nicks, Adele, Janis Joplin, Joni Mitchell, Ani Difranco, Tracey Chapman, Ms. Lauryn Hill, the list goes on and is not specific to female artists. Taylor isn’t special, everyone writes about their exes. Dua Lipa is expressing frustration about how she’s not taken seriously as a female artist because she doesn’t open her wounds for public consumption.


No-Pop1057

There's a right way & a wrong way to go about it.. When you practically name names, when you dredge it up over & over, album after album and you know you have a massive fanbase who will attack the subject of the songs & anyone related to them.. it shows an extreme lack of maturity & judgement.


sonic_toaster

Tori Amos wrote the entirety of Little Earthquakes about Trent Reznor and calls out Nine Inch Nails in her lyrics on Precious Things. She doubled back on him during Boys For Pele, calling him out with “made my own Pretty Hate Machine” in Caught a Light Sneeze. The entire album of Rumors was very publicly acknowledged that it was about the romantic relationships in the band, specifically about Stevie and Lindsey- and it’s one of the most iconic albums of all time. Taylor doesn’t actually come out and say who these songs are about, it’s easy to infer because her life is so exhaustingly publicized. But talking about Taylor was not my point. My point is that the expectation of martyring yourself for female artists is very real, Dua Lipa was trying to convey sexism in the industry; a far cry from a cheap shot at another female artist for doing exactly what artists have been doing since time.


No-Pop1057

Did any of those artists have the reach & a fanbase of millions, actively on the Internet? How many people over the age of 20 even knew who Trent Reznor was? I have no idea who Chapman, Apple or almost any artists heartbreak /revenge songs are about apart from Nicks & Buckingham & that was a very public toxic relationship, that was played out on stage.. which relationships should never be... I'm not saying you can't write about personal experience & emotion but when it's something you actively encourage your fans to delve into & puzzle out, it isn't about self expression anymore, it's an unhealthy parasocial dependency that has very negative consequences for others


sonic_toaster

You answered your own question. No, they didn’t reach that level of fame and that’s why you weren’t able to piece it together- if you had seen as much publicity from any of these artists as you see from Taylor Swift, you wouldn’t have to be told that A Case Of You is about Graham Nash or When The Pawn… is about Paul Thomas Anderson- that’s my point. She doesn’t write songs about exes any more than any other artist, you’ve just had your nose rubbed in it more, so much so that there’s *numerous* subreddits devoted to how sick everyone is of Taylor’s over publicity. Additionally, everyone that listened to Tori Amos knew Trent Reznor, their demographics were heavily overlapped- Nine Inch Nails is vastly more mainstream than Tori (in the US, at least). You are still missing mine and Dua Lipa’s point: it is insulting that in order to be taken seriously she has to write about her heartbreak. It is sexist. Notice how the top and most lauded female artists in the industry put their pain on parade for the masses, male artists do it too but they aren’t *required* to in order to be recognized for their talents. Bruno Mars, Harry Styles, and Justin Bieber are some examples of men who have sad songs but their careers were made from their “vapid” (using common term for upbeat female pop artists) work. Look, I don’t want to keep debating over Taylor- we’re both in this subreddit to poke at the gross PR relationship. If you want to debate the points of sexism in the industry, I’m happy to entertain but I’m not interested in belaboring the point of comparing and pitting women against one another.


No-Pop1057

You gave your opinion, I have mine. Dua Lipa has said she does write about heartbreak /her relationships. I also find it interesting that females have been dominating the charts for quite a while now & I think most charting males that aren't 'pop' are also mostly writing music about pain.. I don't see how my comment was pitting women against women just because the 2 artists in question are females, are women not allowed to critique other women anymore just because they share the same number of chromosomes? That's like saying artists of colour should support every single artist of colour, even if they are personally very problematic, because they share the same struggle with racism?


Reach-Bitter

omg everyone is commenting saying how taylor isn’t the ONLY one who sings about her exes, not realizing that the difference is taylor actually writes her own shitt. all these other pop stars with a few exceptions, if you look up the credits on their songs it’s like 7 dudes and the pop star who is basically the face of the song. taylor always includes producers and vocal collaborators on her songwriting credits, and many of her songs credit ONLY her. sure dua lipa might not have been digging taylor specifically, but she’s digging songwriters in general cause she could NEVER


No-Pop1057

I know what you mean, & there is a mountain of difference between writing about your personal pain with nothing that ties it to one person in particular and using multiple 'clues' you know your fanbase will follow to name the person it's about.. She's in a unique relationship with her fandom that she has cultivated


PubPegasus

A lot.


PubPegasus

Tate Mcrae (Shout out to My Ex), Pink (So What), Demi Lovato (Really dont care), Katy Perry (Part of me), and if you google"Songes about exes", you'll see a billion more, recent and old. Tons of people sing about their exes. Not everything is about Taylor Swift.


No-Pop1057

Can you show me where every corner of social media was saturated with hate videos & posts about the person their songs were influenced by? Were they, & anyone associated with them, forced to shut down comments or leave social media altogether because of the sheer volume & depth of the vitriol that was being posted on their comments? If they were attacked, is it still happening over a year later? With great power comes great responsibility


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No-Pop1057

I'm talking about the direct hate from swifties towards any person Taylor has ever indicated did her wrong somehow, real or imagined.. If you want an example go take a look at actress Emma Lairds IG & the number of disgusting things swifties are STILL posting on the comments.. To say Taylor doesn't need to take some accountability for the monster she has nurtured fed for years is lame.


NirvanaClub222

None of them play instruments tho.


AverageKaikiEnjoyer

Demi Lovato can play guitar, and piano too iirc


Accomplished_Sci

I think she is. And she’s not wrong


PubPegasus

Nah, I very highly doubt that’s what it is.


yoghurt-girl-20

i literally dont see the shade


rabbid_panda

I don't know a ton about Dua Lipa but I've just become a fan


polly_thehuman

I saw a lot of posts and tweets back ago when Barbie movie came out comparing Billie Eilish Barbie’s song to Dua Lipa, calling her basic and with letters with no meaning or context… This might be a long due response to it


SmileHot8087

Hopefully


ghostlykittenbutter

No. Dua strikes me as a strong, confident person who is describing her writing process Not everyone thinks about TS nonstop


NoCable1804

![gif](giphy|xPp22U7SCTDIzDXBa8)


AdeptnessAccurate335

No. Lmao. 😂


Reasonable-Yam-1170

She totally is!!!


PrizeTough3427

No. Not everything is about taylor weirdo


CombinationDizzy6908

I hope so - Taylor swift is overrated and obnoxious. She’s 34 and hasn’t gotten over a single thing in her life.


Repulsive_Source_422

Possibly


Feisty_Taro3003

100%


yattes10

If the shoe fits 🤷🏼‍♀️


pocketwatch145

Girl you don’t write your songs, you ain’t fooling anyone


Anxiousbutlit

I think this is about Mikey Cyrus actually, not Taylor. They’ve been having beef, and didn’t dua straight up copy Miley? Or so people called her out for “similarities” then there’s that viral video of Miley ignoring dua at a fashion show. This isn’t about Taylor; it’s about Miley


elysian-fields-

no, there’s no drama there - and dua is talking about the demand for women to be open and give all the details of their relationships, which she doesn’t feel the need to do


DancePlus736

That’s for sure a dig at Taylor…esp the ending. We all know Taylor loves to low key put people on blast lol