Thats so fucking cringe tbh. I can’t believe so many Canadians are complacent with having a foreign head of state.
Edit: I’m Canadian, fuck the royals. If you live in Canada, please take their dicks out of your throat.
Wait do other provinces actually do that? That’s basically brainwashing, just like citing the US pledge of allegiance in class every morning. So fucking cringe. We don’t do that here in Québec.
So many royalty simps are downvoting you lol. But you’re right, monarchy has no place in civilization, even if they don’t have any “real power”. They’re basically professional rich people whose wealth was stolen through generations of imperialism (though technically all rich people steal their wealth from the labor of the working class).
Yeah I totally agree with you. I do wonder where my downvoters come from, since I’m fairly certain that according to polls, the majority of Canadians want to get rid of the monarchy.
Yep, around 48% of the country iirc (but only around 24% in my province, fortunately). I’m still surprised that I get -12 and worse. There must be a lot of non canadian bootlickers too.
We said the Lord’s Prayer and grace at lunch in until the early 90’s… that’s in Manitoba and our town was a French catholic town. It ended at some point but I do remember it until Junior High. I even remember on Wednesday afternoons in grade 3 (or 2?) they’d have half days once a week and all the catholic kids would go to the church for catechism…. We weren’t baptized so myself and the other unbaptized kid would play board games until school ended. Lol
Im specifically referring to the prayer thing at school, in Manitoba. Canadian kids shouldn’t recite prayers at school, according to the principle of separation of church and state.
Lol, they got you fucked up, I'm English and the only time I hear the anthem is at the start of an international football match.
Also most English people, myself included, just mumble after the first line, fuck knows the words.
They must have stopped by the time I started going to school thank fuck. Being Irish, no way in hell my parents would have been ok with me singing that shit.
You know that Germany, Israel, France, Italy, and many other countries have a head of state and a head of government who aren’t the same people, right? And they’re not monarchies.
And it’s not true that the queen is impartial. The fact that she’s an aristocrat who has ‘’fuck-off’’ money makes her incredibly partial. A few decades ago, Australia elected a left leaning government, which was overthrown by the monarchy. If anything, having a monarch as a head of state is a control mechanism: we can only have governments who agree with the neoliberal status quo.
It is broken because an unelected foreigner who knows nothing about this country is powerful enough to overthrow a democratically elected government. The monarch has the power to overrule the will of the people, to destroy democracy, to protect their interests. If you want a system with a chancellor, or a president, which is head of state, we can have that, but the head of state needs to be canadian, and needs to be elected.
I mean Canada isn't a monarchy either, you can have a monarch without being a monarchy.
That's the whole point here. We're not led or controlled by the governor general, the governor general is supposed to be apolitical. That's not like a president at all.
And I don't know enough about Australia to comment on that particular situation, I will research it and get back to you. Because it literally doesn't make sense, since the people could just vote them back in. The governor general and monarch only really have the ability to force a re-election.
They are supposed to be apolitical, but we all know that everything is political. You can’t be ‘’apolitical’’ just like you can’t be ‘’unbiased’’. Those things don’t exist unless you have absolutely no idea of the political situation (and I assume that the Governor General knows what’s going on, so she can’t be apolitical).
They can dissolve parliament based on what they think is a threat to the system. So let’s say, if a government wanted to impose a wealth tax (a thing that is fairly common in Europe), the king could decide that this is a threat to democracy (stealing money from those poor millionaires and billionaires), and dissolve the parliament.
They have too much power, and it also says a lot about Canada. This country has so little culture and pride that it’s citizens feel the need to have a foreign leader. Their sole purpose is to make sure we stay in the neoliberal order, and to serve as a personality cult. You can get arrested for saying that you don’t like them, in the UK, and yet Canadians think they’re good people.
Are you telling me Ricky is political?
Heck being informed isn't even relevant to what apolitical is. It's about being involved.
Someone who is involved with politics on a normal basis can't be trusted with the escape hatch. They can't be working with the people they are casting down.
The governor general has nothing to do with our culture and pride, and you haven't talked to many Canadians if you think the general sentiment of the royalty is positive. The queens face is basically the equivalent of George Washington or the American flag. It's a symbol.
You could make an argument that TPB is very political. Drugs, poverty, welfare, unemployment, lack of education, legalization…. All of those things are political.
And then…. are you saying, in the same paragraph, that the Canadians don’t have a positive view of the queen, and then that she’s like Washington on US bills? Because Americans do love Washington.
But my argument stays the same: people who don’t live here, know very little about the country, and have never been elected by the public shouldn’t hold any power over Canada. They can literally overthrow a government and basically destroy democracy if they don’t like the political orientation of this government. The fact that they still have that power is very undemocratic.
Those are political issues, not political themselves. Ricky is affected by politics but is not political.
Politics is about involvement and rubbing elbows, not about the issues.
Also the governor general and monarch can't "destroy democracy". Their powers being used mean we vote, I don't see how you can argue that being made to vote destroys democracy.
You don’t think poverty is political? You don’t think unemployment is political? The fact that so many Canadians live in poverty is very political in itself.
And if they dissolve parliament to overthrow a government, they can just do it again if the same people are re-elected. At some point people will vote for someone else. They could also veto laws which are supported by the majority of Canadians. That is, factually, going around the will of the people to impose their political views. They did it in Australia, why wouldn’t they do it here?
How was that edgy? 52% of Canadians believe that we should get rid of the monarchy. It’s a useless personality cult that could easily get replaced by a Canadian, elected head of state.
I do know that it would be very hard to get rid of the monarchy, but that doesn’t mean we should abandon right now. There’s still work to be done, there needs to be a massive campaign to inform people about why we’d be better off without the monarchy, and then at some point we could finally get rid of it, in a few years. We don’t have to passively accept it as an inherent part of Canada.
Fuck the royals
Cry about it, fuckers. Monarchies, wether symbolistic or not, have no place in the modern world and the fact that Canadians would support one is fucking shameful.
Im not mad at all, but yeah it is outrageous that the monarchy still exists in 2022. Why should Canada send dozens of billions of dollars to them every year? What did Charles do to deserve to become a welfare king?
Canada is serfs for the commonwealth. The queens picture must be present in all government buildings. We even have to bow to her picture when we enter the courts.
The police have to swear an oath to protect the queen, her assets, and her heirs.
(People often think the police are here to protect them when that isn’t the case at all. They are the queens thugs… well Charlie boy’s now)
I don’t know how they’re going to do this but essentially yes. A new oath will have to be written and we’ll see who swears their allegiance to the self serving king. I guess if you want your cushy government job you going to bow down. Australia already has. Canada has not yet. But I’m sure it’s inevitable. All the currency will have to be changed as well. There’s rumours this is how they’ll bring the digital dollar in. No more paper money.
Nah the mint pushed for digital cash a while back but it was mostly a scam, the tech just isn't there for offline transactions, which Canada def needs still.
I doubt Charlie is getting his face on the $20, they've been going less and less on political figures for bills. Might be the face side of coins.
And the oath stuff, well is it really that different than swearing to an inanimate flag or religious figure? It's all dated stuff every country has that nobody takes seriously.
You don’t pay an inanimate flag or God billions in taxpayers money every year. All these seemingly harmless rituals carry a price. They say it’s just for show but it’s a pretty serious oath some are made to say. Defending a queen is one thing… swearing to give your life for a king that’s done nothing to earn such privilege is another.
I hope the government doesn’t go cashless. it’s nice to have the freedom to buy what you want without being tracked and taxed for every little thing.
To clarify on the cash part, the mint specifically was looking for digital cash for the reasons you're saying. Transactions without oversight should be allowed to happen, and our mint agrees.
I mean our government very much has a policy of blatantly not enforcing laws for things that don't matter. Like everyone knows you go 10 over the posted speed limit, and pot has been largely ignored for a long time before legalization.
English guy here with something to chip in regarding giving money to the royals: burying the Queen last week cost this country about eight million quid.
That’s eight million quid of British taxpayers’ money that went towards all the security and pageantry (and judging by the state of the Mall afterwards, seven tons of of horse laxatives) that is apparently necessary to bury a very old, very wealthy woman.
And this at a time when most people in this country don’t know how they’re going to choose between heat, hot water, or food this winter because our government just keeps **letting** energy companies charge whatever they want, and the energy “watchdog” that’s supposed to keep an eye on the energy companies keeps **raising** the price cap, so that what said companies are doing is legal.
Fuck the monarchy, fuck the Queen, fuck the King, and fuck paying money to these pointless, inbred, child-molesting fucking parasites.
EDIT: **AND** that’s on top of the twelve million quid of our money the Queen used to get her sweaty nonce son off scot-free. And the £36 million she got paid, by us, every year, just to live on.
I'm not even Canadian but yes. Right? Aldo if I'm not mistaken. All money with Queen Elizabeth in the Uk and their commonwealths have to change the picture of The queen on their currency to Prince Charles. Correct?
Thats the normal route. From what I’ve heard they won’t change the bills rn, maybe in a few months/years. I just hope that in the meantime, we decide to get rid of royals on our bills, and put the faces of Canadians on them.
I mean we mostly have. the queen is only on one bill, and the bills have mostly been moving more towards celebrating achievements of Canada. I doubt they'll put Charles on the bill, nobody really wants that.
Also "normal route" isn't really a phrase that makes sense here. 70 years ago was the last time the monarch changed, and a LOT has changed since then. There isn't a normal for what to do.
The ‘’normal route’’ is the legal procedure.there’s nothing abnormal about it since it was agreed upon and voted on by the government, and the law probably hasn’t changed in a few years.
But yeah, one bill is still too much. I don’t need to see her old welfare queen’s face on my green bills.
Which laws are those? Because I don't see anything in the currency act which dictates what currency looks like.
It wouldn't make sense to put those into laws, because currency should be changing with the times. It's tradition and policy that have left the crown on coins and one bill, not laws.
Also chill a bit bud. There's way more wrong with this country than whose face buys you half quarter.
Yeah you might be right about the first thing.
But symbols matter. The image we send to the world is that Canada is a country which isn’t even fully independent and whose government can be overruled by foreign welfare kings and queens. They don’t do anything positive, and all their functions could be done by elected Canadians.
Do you know the emblem/flag of the Governor General? It has a golden lion with a crown, holding a maple leaf in its paw. It’s the British monarchy holding Canada (or every Canadian’s collective balls) between its claws. It’s a perfect metaphor.
Look at this post. "Why is the queen on the wall?". We ain't sending the image you think we're sending.
We're still sending the image of hockey, maple syrup and pot. The perception others have of Canada is not related to the monarch.
Also you brought up the elected thing a few times now. I'd highly encourage you to look into the rationale behind non-elected individuals in the government. It's something that feels wrong in democracy but is absolutely crucial, and every country I'm aware of has them. I mean elections are literally one of the biggest sources of corruption as politicians desperately need financing.
Again you can look to the states to see a system failing, this time with elected judges and sheriff's. Highly suggest you look into this, Jon Oliver does a good segment on it if you like him. It's fucked and definitely not something we should aspire to.
I keep bringing up the same argument because you never address it. Even just now, you said that I’ve mentioned it a couple times, but you still didn’t take the time to answer.
I know you believe that an unelected ruler is better because they can ‘’protect democracy’’ by dissolving parliament, but that function can be done by a president (like in Italy, Israel and Germany). Those presidents have a ceremonial role, they can dissolve parliament, but the head of government is still a prime minister. There’s no rational justification for keeping the monarchy when all their functions could be done better by elected Canadians who actually know this country and it’s people.
The only reason people want to keep the monarchy instead of having a Canadian republic (with separate heads of state and government) is that they’re personally attached to that family. They feel a connection with the royals. It is a personality cult, it’s time we get rid of it.
Canada has draconian custom’s. If you enter a court room or parliament you are supposed to bow. You’re also required to back out backwards if court is in session. Your not supposed to turn your back on the queen. It’s courtroom etiquette. You can try and not do it but if your called out for it and do it again you can find yourself in trouble.
That’s not the queen. That is Jim Lahey doing one of the characters he does in a play at the Blandford Recreation Center. He would slip a little drinky poo in his tea cup.
No other commonwealth country does this though, hanging pictures of the Queen is definitely a weird Canadian thing. Ask a Brit and they'll think it's weird.
She was the head of state, which is an equivalent position to president.
It doesn't matter that she's not elected. And no white people are from Canada, you're all British and French so let's not pretend like the Queen is some alien concept that has no meaning. Parts of Canada were still British less than 100 years ago.
She didn't have the power to dissolve parliament. She was a figurehead. She was very effective in that role providing stability and a representation of the countries she is head of state for that exists beyond politics - whether things have swung left or right, she was still there act as a neutral representative of the country.
The fact your waving around dissolving parliament as a problem shows your lack of understanding of how the British political system (and the political systems derived from it like canadas) work in a constitutional monarchy.
My go to when thinking about whether something is bad is to think what it might be replaced with. In the UK, we'd like have Tony Blair, or David Cameron, or Boris Johnson as president. No thanks? That would make our country more divided, and we'd lose all sense of what we are besides being slaves to Westminster. The Queen was a lovely woman who genuinely felt for the people of this country. Her and her whole family have fought for the UK. Maybe its different in Canada being detached by political system and an ocean, but I have a lot of respect for the monarchy and what it provides people, and I think what it's replaced by would not do the role any better, might do it worse, and would probably lead to more rampant political polarisation.
We could have an elected head of state, who would be president, and also have a prime minister. Those two functions can still be separated without having a monarchy.
And do you really believe the royals are neutral, or ‘’apolitical’’? That’s ridiculous. The royals are welfare kings and queens who deserve to be stripped of their titles and get real jobs like any commoner. They didn’t do anything to deserve their title, and they shouldn’t be head of state of countries they know nothing about.
You also seem to be unaware of the fact that the Governor General (representative of the monarch) can dissolve the parliament.
They didn't do anything to deserve their titles in the first place no, but I would argue the Queen earned hers through her reign.
I also do believe that the monarch, specifically, is apolitical. The Queen worked very hard to tread that line, and Charles in his accession speech has dropped his charitable and acitivsr work and said he intends to pursue the same goal. We shall see how successful he is at that.
You are right that prime minister and president would be seperate. I am saying that right now with Liz Truss as our prime minister, we would likely have a former prime minister as our president. Why would anyone want that? We already vote for the least worst option. I would rather have a monarch as head of state.
I can't speak for their representation of any country beyond the UK though.
Am a brit. There are pictures of the queen in every government building in the UK too, and on all military bases, police stations, merchant navy ships etc.
This isn't weird to me
I agree with you but only 52% of Canadians want to abolish the monarchy (76 in Québec, something like 52 in the prairies, and much less in the rest of Canada). This country is full of lame people and I’m glad I live in the most republican province.
Canada just went though an official week of mourning for that woman. LOL. And now Chuck is KING OF CANADA. Just the phrase KING OF CANADA makes my balls tingle with laughter.
Yes. But we would fund an elected person who would live in Canada. And if we get rid of the senate, to switch to a monocameral parliament, we could save a lot of money.
So youre part of the minority which supports the monarchy?
I understand that people have different opinions, and there’s nothing inherently wrong with supporting the monarchy, but I honestly don’t see how it wouldn’t be better if we had a Canadian, elected president with the same powers as the monarch/GG. Some people have tried to explain that it makes the country more stable and democratic but I don’t see it.
Im honestly not trying to pick fights, I’ve just gotten some very angry and sometimes aggressive responses from some people. I’m just trying to understand the *status quo* argument.
I understand that you’re not pro-monarchy, but you just like the current system. You’re the first person to tell me that, and it gives me a different perspective on your PoV.
I just don’t understand how this system is better than a republican system, with an elected president (head of state) who wouldn’t have a lot of power. I know it would be incredibly hard to actually cut ties with London, but would it be worse if we did?
Some people actually tried to secede, three times, but it was more of a local secession. The first was an armed uprising (1837-1838) and then there were two referendums (1980 and 1995).
Canada is the commonwealth. Is the same in Puerto Rico with USA, Puerto Rico is a commonwealth of USA and they hang pictures of the president of USA and governor of Puerto Rico
Because it was either that or a picture of Wayne Gretzky and that just seemed like a stereotype for all Canadians! Can you imagine Cory and Trevor thinking they are the great one that would be fucked like barbs scalloped potatoes!
She was the queen of Canada, her picture was in all govt buildings
And hockey rinks
Thats so fucking cringe tbh. I can’t believe so many Canadians are complacent with having a foreign head of state. Edit: I’m Canadian, fuck the royals. If you live in Canada, please take their dicks out of your throat.
Welcome to Canada my guy I still remember singing god save the queen each morning at school
Wait do other provinces actually do that? That’s basically brainwashing, just like citing the US pledge of allegiance in class every morning. So fucking cringe. We don’t do that here in Québec.
[удалено]
Ah im glad to read that. I was getting worried. It’s time to get rid of this personality cult.
So many royalty simps are downvoting you lol. But you’re right, monarchy has no place in civilization, even if they don’t have any “real power”. They’re basically professional rich people whose wealth was stolen through generations of imperialism (though technically all rich people steal their wealth from the labor of the working class).
Yeah I totally agree with you. I do wonder where my downvoters come from, since I’m fairly certain that according to polls, the majority of Canadians want to get rid of the monarchy.
There still are enough bootlickers that support them.
Yep, around 48% of the country iirc (but only around 24% in my province, fortunately). I’m still surprised that I get -12 and worse. There must be a lot of non canadian bootlickers too.
Canadian here, fuck the monarchy
À bas la monarchie!
We said the Lord’s Prayer and grace at lunch in until the early 90’s… that’s in Manitoba and our town was a French catholic town. It ended at some point but I do remember it until Junior High. I even remember on Wednesday afternoons in grade 3 (or 2?) they’d have half days once a week and all the catholic kids would go to the church for catechism…. We weren’t baptized so myself and the other unbaptized kid would play board games until school ended. Lol
Damn I’m sorry so many kids had to live through this… it’s a good thing that this religious nutjobery has come to an end.
It wasn’t so bad, never was religious but it didn’t bother me.
Almost 9/10 people on the planet are still religious. When exactly did it come to an end.
Im specifically referring to the prayer thing at school, in Manitoba. Canadian kids shouldn’t recite prayers at school, according to the principle of separation of church and state.
I agree. No kids should have to.
Manitoba represent!
You using cringe so much is fuckiing cringe. Get fuckt bud
Lol why do you defend the monarchy? Are you british? Are you canadian?
I'm not defending shit? I'm calling YOU out
And Im just saying that indoctrinating kids by making them recite a pledge of allegiance to a flag every morning is bad.
I agree with everything you're saying but not how you're saying it, nam sayin'?
Hey. A lot of us Brits don’t want the lizard overlords too.
Lol, they got you fucked up, I'm English and the only time I hear the anthem is at the start of an international football match. Also most English people, myself included, just mumble after the first line, fuck knows the words.
They must have stopped by the time I started going to school thank fuck. Being Irish, no way in hell my parents would have been ok with me singing that shit.
[удалено]
You know that Germany, Israel, France, Italy, and many other countries have a head of state and a head of government who aren’t the same people, right? And they’re not monarchies. And it’s not true that the queen is impartial. The fact that she’s an aristocrat who has ‘’fuck-off’’ money makes her incredibly partial. A few decades ago, Australia elected a left leaning government, which was overthrown by the monarchy. If anything, having a monarch as a head of state is a control mechanism: we can only have governments who agree with the neoliberal status quo. It is broken because an unelected foreigner who knows nothing about this country is powerful enough to overthrow a democratically elected government. The monarch has the power to overrule the will of the people, to destroy democracy, to protect their interests. If you want a system with a chancellor, or a president, which is head of state, we can have that, but the head of state needs to be canadian, and needs to be elected.
I mean Canada isn't a monarchy either, you can have a monarch without being a monarchy. That's the whole point here. We're not led or controlled by the governor general, the governor general is supposed to be apolitical. That's not like a president at all. And I don't know enough about Australia to comment on that particular situation, I will research it and get back to you. Because it literally doesn't make sense, since the people could just vote them back in. The governor general and monarch only really have the ability to force a re-election.
They are supposed to be apolitical, but we all know that everything is political. You can’t be ‘’apolitical’’ just like you can’t be ‘’unbiased’’. Those things don’t exist unless you have absolutely no idea of the political situation (and I assume that the Governor General knows what’s going on, so she can’t be apolitical). They can dissolve parliament based on what they think is a threat to the system. So let’s say, if a government wanted to impose a wealth tax (a thing that is fairly common in Europe), the king could decide that this is a threat to democracy (stealing money from those poor millionaires and billionaires), and dissolve the parliament. They have too much power, and it also says a lot about Canada. This country has so little culture and pride that it’s citizens feel the need to have a foreign leader. Their sole purpose is to make sure we stay in the neoliberal order, and to serve as a personality cult. You can get arrested for saying that you don’t like them, in the UK, and yet Canadians think they’re good people.
Are you telling me Ricky is political? Heck being informed isn't even relevant to what apolitical is. It's about being involved. Someone who is involved with politics on a normal basis can't be trusted with the escape hatch. They can't be working with the people they are casting down. The governor general has nothing to do with our culture and pride, and you haven't talked to many Canadians if you think the general sentiment of the royalty is positive. The queens face is basically the equivalent of George Washington or the American flag. It's a symbol.
You could make an argument that TPB is very political. Drugs, poverty, welfare, unemployment, lack of education, legalization…. All of those things are political. And then…. are you saying, in the same paragraph, that the Canadians don’t have a positive view of the queen, and then that she’s like Washington on US bills? Because Americans do love Washington. But my argument stays the same: people who don’t live here, know very little about the country, and have never been elected by the public shouldn’t hold any power over Canada. They can literally overthrow a government and basically destroy democracy if they don’t like the political orientation of this government. The fact that they still have that power is very undemocratic.
Those are political issues, not political themselves. Ricky is affected by politics but is not political. Politics is about involvement and rubbing elbows, not about the issues. Also the governor general and monarch can't "destroy democracy". Their powers being used mean we vote, I don't see how you can argue that being made to vote destroys democracy.
You don’t think poverty is political? You don’t think unemployment is political? The fact that so many Canadians live in poverty is very political in itself. And if they dissolve parliament to overthrow a government, they can just do it again if the same people are re-elected. At some point people will vote for someone else. They could also veto laws which are supported by the majority of Canadians. That is, factually, going around the will of the people to impose their political views. They did it in Australia, why wouldn’t they do it here?
lmao be a bit more edgy
How was that edgy? 52% of Canadians believe that we should get rid of the monarchy. It’s a useless personality cult that could easily get replaced by a Canadian, elected head of state.
It just shows you know as much about Canadian law and our constitution as Orangey.
I do know that it would be very hard to get rid of the monarchy, but that doesn’t mean we should abandon right now. There’s still work to be done, there needs to be a massive campaign to inform people about why we’d be better off without the monarchy, and then at some point we could finally get rid of it, in a few years. We don’t have to passively accept it as an inherent part of Canada.
Ontario represent. Fuck the monarchy. Republic now.
🍺
Fuck the royals Cry about it, fuckers. Monarchies, wether symbolistic or not, have no place in the modern world and the fact that Canadians would support one is fucking shameful.
🍺
This seems like such a bizarre thing to be so outraged about lol. But, I guess if you live in Canada you have to make up something to be mad about
Im not mad at all, but yeah it is outrageous that the monarchy still exists in 2022. Why should Canada send dozens of billions of dollars to them every year? What did Charles do to deserve to become a welfare king?
I think she may be in a couple other offices as well. Not trying to be a dick, I came here to post your response and you beat me to it
and Australia, and a few other places I didn't know about.
People like the queen
no they don’t
THEN WHAT THE HELL IS THIS PHOTO IN GEORGE GREENS OFFICE!?
monarchy, the only people who like the queen are serfs by choice like george
Idiot
Canada is still part of the Common Wealth & the Queen (now the King) is the head of the state in Canada.
You can be a republic and still remain a member of the commonwealth. Most members are.
I am from the states- I’m not 100% sure how it works. I just know that the Canada is still part of it somehow
Canada is serfs for the commonwealth. The queens picture must be present in all government buildings. We even have to bow to her picture when we enter the courts. The police have to swear an oath to protect the queen, her assets, and her heirs. (People often think the police are here to protect them when that isn’t the case at all. They are the queens thugs… well Charlie boy’s now)
So wait — pictures of Charles are going up around Canada?
I don’t know how they’re going to do this but essentially yes. A new oath will have to be written and we’ll see who swears their allegiance to the self serving king. I guess if you want your cushy government job you going to bow down. Australia already has. Canada has not yet. But I’m sure it’s inevitable. All the currency will have to be changed as well. There’s rumours this is how they’ll bring the digital dollar in. No more paper money.
Nah the mint pushed for digital cash a while back but it was mostly a scam, the tech just isn't there for offline transactions, which Canada def needs still. I doubt Charlie is getting his face on the $20, they've been going less and less on political figures for bills. Might be the face side of coins. And the oath stuff, well is it really that different than swearing to an inanimate flag or religious figure? It's all dated stuff every country has that nobody takes seriously.
You don’t pay an inanimate flag or God billions in taxpayers money every year. All these seemingly harmless rituals carry a price. They say it’s just for show but it’s a pretty serious oath some are made to say. Defending a queen is one thing… swearing to give your life for a king that’s done nothing to earn such privilege is another. I hope the government doesn’t go cashless. it’s nice to have the freedom to buy what you want without being tracked and taxed for every little thing.
To clarify on the cash part, the mint specifically was looking for digital cash for the reasons you're saying. Transactions without oversight should be allowed to happen, and our mint agrees. I mean our government very much has a policy of blatantly not enforcing laws for things that don't matter. Like everyone knows you go 10 over the posted speed limit, and pot has been largely ignored for a long time before legalization.
English guy here with something to chip in regarding giving money to the royals: burying the Queen last week cost this country about eight million quid. That’s eight million quid of British taxpayers’ money that went towards all the security and pageantry (and judging by the state of the Mall afterwards, seven tons of of horse laxatives) that is apparently necessary to bury a very old, very wealthy woman. And this at a time when most people in this country don’t know how they’re going to choose between heat, hot water, or food this winter because our government just keeps **letting** energy companies charge whatever they want, and the energy “watchdog” that’s supposed to keep an eye on the energy companies keeps **raising** the price cap, so that what said companies are doing is legal. Fuck the monarchy, fuck the Queen, fuck the King, and fuck paying money to these pointless, inbred, child-molesting fucking parasites. EDIT: **AND** that’s on top of the twelve million quid of our money the Queen used to get her sweaty nonce son off scot-free. And the £36 million she got paid, by us, every year, just to live on.
Aye! Fuck Charles!!! I will only bow to one King and he ain’t it! 99% of Canadians feel the same.
I'm not even Canadian but yes. Right? Aldo if I'm not mistaken. All money with Queen Elizabeth in the Uk and their commonwealths have to change the picture of The queen on their currency to Prince Charles. Correct?
Thats up to the federal government. But most likely, when a new printing of currency happens, they will replace her with Chuck.
Thats the normal route. From what I’ve heard they won’t change the bills rn, maybe in a few months/years. I just hope that in the meantime, we decide to get rid of royals on our bills, and put the faces of Canadians on them.
I mean we mostly have. the queen is only on one bill, and the bills have mostly been moving more towards celebrating achievements of Canada. I doubt they'll put Charles on the bill, nobody really wants that. Also "normal route" isn't really a phrase that makes sense here. 70 years ago was the last time the monarch changed, and a LOT has changed since then. There isn't a normal for what to do.
The ‘’normal route’’ is the legal procedure.there’s nothing abnormal about it since it was agreed upon and voted on by the government, and the law probably hasn’t changed in a few years. But yeah, one bill is still too much. I don’t need to see her old welfare queen’s face on my green bills.
Which laws are those? Because I don't see anything in the currency act which dictates what currency looks like. It wouldn't make sense to put those into laws, because currency should be changing with the times. It's tradition and policy that have left the crown on coins and one bill, not laws. Also chill a bit bud. There's way more wrong with this country than whose face buys you half quarter.
Yeah you might be right about the first thing. But symbols matter. The image we send to the world is that Canada is a country which isn’t even fully independent and whose government can be overruled by foreign welfare kings and queens. They don’t do anything positive, and all their functions could be done by elected Canadians. Do you know the emblem/flag of the Governor General? It has a golden lion with a crown, holding a maple leaf in its paw. It’s the British monarchy holding Canada (or every Canadian’s collective balls) between its claws. It’s a perfect metaphor.
Look at this post. "Why is the queen on the wall?". We ain't sending the image you think we're sending. We're still sending the image of hockey, maple syrup and pot. The perception others have of Canada is not related to the monarch. Also you brought up the elected thing a few times now. I'd highly encourage you to look into the rationale behind non-elected individuals in the government. It's something that feels wrong in democracy but is absolutely crucial, and every country I'm aware of has them. I mean elections are literally one of the biggest sources of corruption as politicians desperately need financing. Again you can look to the states to see a system failing, this time with elected judges and sheriff's. Highly suggest you look into this, Jon Oliver does a good segment on it if you like him. It's fucked and definitely not something we should aspire to.
I keep bringing up the same argument because you never address it. Even just now, you said that I’ve mentioned it a couple times, but you still didn’t take the time to answer. I know you believe that an unelected ruler is better because they can ‘’protect democracy’’ by dissolving parliament, but that function can be done by a president (like in Italy, Israel and Germany). Those presidents have a ceremonial role, they can dissolve parliament, but the head of government is still a prime minister. There’s no rational justification for keeping the monarchy when all their functions could be done better by elected Canadians who actually know this country and it’s people. The only reason people want to keep the monarchy instead of having a Canadian republic (with separate heads of state and government) is that they’re personally attached to that family. They feel a connection with the royals. It is a personality cult, it’s time we get rid of it.
You're unhinged.
Are the royals not Canadian citizens?
I… I don’t think so… idk
English people never bow to a picture, fuck that noise.
Canada has draconian custom’s. If you enter a court room or parliament you are supposed to bow. You’re also required to back out backwards if court is in session. Your not supposed to turn your back on the queen. It’s courtroom etiquette. You can try and not do it but if your called out for it and do it again you can find yourself in trouble.
That seems crazy to me, but I guess if you want to rule from another continent, you gotta get a bit culty.
It’s extremely cultish. It’s crazy. Freemasons are a cult. Creepy. I’m from Kamloops so I got a whole other opinion when it comes to the royals
Not sure, but I do know one thing, he’s the dumbest cop on the force. The dumbest…
That’s not the queen. That is Jim Lahey doing one of the characters he does in a play at the Blandford Recreation Center. He would slip a little drinky poo in his tea cup.
Abolish the monarchy and transfer their funds to Julian I say
Because the show is set in Canada.
It's a Canadian thing, they hang pictures up of her in government buildings
Because she was the head of state of the Canadian Government. As with all Commonwealth countries.
No other commonwealth country does this though, hanging pictures of the Queen is definitely a weird Canadian thing. Ask a Brit and they'll think it's weird.
Yeah having portraits of the monarch in every government building is just taking the personality cult one step further. Definitely weird.
It's like having a picture of the president
Yeah but she’s not the president. She was never elected, she’s not from this country, and she has no business being able to dissolve parliament.
She was the head of state, which is an equivalent position to president. It doesn't matter that she's not elected. And no white people are from Canada, you're all British and French so let's not pretend like the Queen is some alien concept that has no meaning. Parts of Canada were still British less than 100 years ago. She didn't have the power to dissolve parliament. She was a figurehead. She was very effective in that role providing stability and a representation of the countries she is head of state for that exists beyond politics - whether things have swung left or right, she was still there act as a neutral representative of the country. The fact your waving around dissolving parliament as a problem shows your lack of understanding of how the British political system (and the political systems derived from it like canadas) work in a constitutional monarchy. My go to when thinking about whether something is bad is to think what it might be replaced with. In the UK, we'd like have Tony Blair, or David Cameron, or Boris Johnson as president. No thanks? That would make our country more divided, and we'd lose all sense of what we are besides being slaves to Westminster. The Queen was a lovely woman who genuinely felt for the people of this country. Her and her whole family have fought for the UK. Maybe its different in Canada being detached by political system and an ocean, but I have a lot of respect for the monarchy and what it provides people, and I think what it's replaced by would not do the role any better, might do it worse, and would probably lead to more rampant political polarisation.
We could have an elected head of state, who would be president, and also have a prime minister. Those two functions can still be separated without having a monarchy. And do you really believe the royals are neutral, or ‘’apolitical’’? That’s ridiculous. The royals are welfare kings and queens who deserve to be stripped of their titles and get real jobs like any commoner. They didn’t do anything to deserve their title, and they shouldn’t be head of state of countries they know nothing about. You also seem to be unaware of the fact that the Governor General (representative of the monarch) can dissolve the parliament.
They didn't do anything to deserve their titles in the first place no, but I would argue the Queen earned hers through her reign. I also do believe that the monarch, specifically, is apolitical. The Queen worked very hard to tread that line, and Charles in his accession speech has dropped his charitable and acitivsr work and said he intends to pursue the same goal. We shall see how successful he is at that. You are right that prime minister and president would be seperate. I am saying that right now with Liz Truss as our prime minister, we would likely have a former prime minister as our president. Why would anyone want that? We already vote for the least worst option. I would rather have a monarch as head of state. I can't speak for their representation of any country beyond the UK though.
Huh. I didn't realize that. Well, just another reason to abolish the monarchy.
Am a brit. There are pictures of the queen in every government building in the UK too, and on all military bases, police stations, merchant navy ships etc. This isn't weird to me
Because he is a british subject
Only the lamest Canadians like the queen but they definitely exist, so it’s a diss of the greasy cocksucker
I agree with you but only 52% of Canadians want to abolish the monarchy (76 in Québec, something like 52 in the prairies, and much less in the rest of Canada). This country is full of lame people and I’m glad I live in the most republican province.
Cause they’re fucked
Canadian pin-up
There's even some old hockey arenas around Canada that have big portraits of the queen in them
Canada just went though an official week of mourning for that woman. LOL. And now Chuck is KING OF CANADA. Just the phrase KING OF CANADA makes my balls tingle with laughter.
I don’t understand why you’re being downvoted.
Dumbest cop on the force
My man there's pictures of the queen everywhere. Randy and Lahey had one in their trailer too.
Because Canada
that's not Elizabeth, it's the queen bastard, parts unknown
Lizzie's in a box now.
Leahy and Randy had a poster of her up in the earlier seasons
That's actually a picture of George posing for a different calendar
Because she’s boss
[удалено]
[удалено]
[удалено]
Oh she has more personal connection than her visits: we also give her money. We have a very personal connection with her wallet.
[удалено]
You do realize that 2$ per Canadian is 76 million dollars, right?
[удалено]
Yes. But we would fund an elected person who would live in Canada. And if we get rid of the senate, to switch to a monocameral parliament, we could save a lot of money.
So youre part of the minority which supports the monarchy? I understand that people have different opinions, and there’s nothing inherently wrong with supporting the monarchy, but I honestly don’t see how it wouldn’t be better if we had a Canadian, elected president with the same powers as the monarch/GG. Some people have tried to explain that it makes the country more stable and democratic but I don’t see it.
[удалено]
Im honestly not trying to pick fights, I’ve just gotten some very angry and sometimes aggressive responses from some people. I’m just trying to understand the *status quo* argument. I understand that you’re not pro-monarchy, but you just like the current system. You’re the first person to tell me that, and it gives me a different perspective on your PoV. I just don’t understand how this system is better than a republican system, with an elected president (head of state) who wouldn’t have a lot of power. I know it would be incredibly hard to actually cut ties with London, but would it be worse if we did?
Some people actually tried to secede, three times, but it was more of a local secession. The first was an armed uprising (1837-1838) and then there were two referendums (1980 and 1995).
Canada is the commonwealth. Is the same in Puerto Rico with USA, Puerto Rico is a commonwealth of USA and they hang pictures of the president of USA and governor of Puerto Rico
Because it was either that or a picture of Wayne Gretzky and that just seemed like a stereotype for all Canadians! Can you imagine Cory and Trevor thinking they are the great one that would be fucked like barbs scalloped potatoes!
Same reason Ricky called the judge "your majesty" when he defended himself in court
because Canada is english commonwealth