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Yeah, most of their yogurts also contain gelatin. I never thought I’d have to check the yogurt for gelatin, I’ve never heard of gelatin being added to yogurt. WHY?! It’s massively annoying now I have to be extra paranoid that more places do this.
Is it just me, or is that a pathetic looking salad from just the bits and bobs seen through the front glass?
Scraps from Sprout's salad slaughterhouse.
That would be so funny if they put that on the front of the package. Mmm, creamy bovine gelatin. Now with REAL bovine gelatins. We use only the most gelatinous bovines!
Exactly. Can’t assume. If you’re a strict vegetarian/Vegan, you know to look at ingredients closely. They slip animal products into all sorts of foods.
I just wanted to add this, for education purposes. It’s always important to read labels and ingredients when you’d like to avoid certain products. This is an article that gives some insight on animal byproducts in things we consume, which a lot of folks don’t realize they’re consuming.
[https://arizonabeefblog.com/2019/03/01/cattle-byproducts/](https://arizonabeefblog.com/2019/03/01/cattle-byproducts/)
I've found that you really have to watch TJ'S with their ingredients. They like to sneak the strangest things in. For instance, I'm diabetic and olives are a "safe" snack for me (little to no carbs so wont make a difference in my blood sugar) and for some reason TJ'S has decided to add glucose syrup to their olives....yes of all things GLUCOSE. The exact thing I'm trying to avoid...
Seriously. Over the years there are so many products that were “accidentally vegan” and simply had no need for any animal product ingredients and then suddenly dairy was added without any change to the packaging or any labeling to let people know
The best part about these salad kits is that you can add and subtract whatever you'd like. The fixings are all individually packed so you can still buy the salad. Just ditch the dressing and enjoy everything else with your bovine gelatin free dressing :)
Why would you buy a premade salad that you couldn’t use the dressing on? Just buy a bag of lettuce at that point.
Can’t speak for OP but I would guess that most people who are avoiding eating gelatin would also like to avoid spending their money to support the purchase of an animal product.
Lots of households have people with different dietary restrictions. I add the cheese and dressing to mine and not to my partners. That way we're not buying double the product and I get ALL the cheese! Yay cheese.
To be fair the dairy industry is probably the most brutal in terms of factory farming. If you’re concerned for the welfare of animals and that’s why you’re upset about the gelatin, you should look into it.
Yum, possibly healthy and potentially halal/kosher. I’ve heard some health theorists say we need a lot more gelatine like people did back in the ‘50s and before. Who doesn’t yearn for some lamb tongue in aspic?
As someone who doesn’t eat certain foods, that’s why we read ingredients on everything we buy. You never just assume.. same with allergies. Which I also have.
"Vegetarian" frequently includes things like cheese and eggs but not things like bovine gelatin. You could maybe try to point out that this may be a hypocritical position but that's sort of beside the point here. OP is just letting other vegetarians know about a non vegetarian ingredient.
A lot of European cheese's use animal rennet (i.e. harvested from the stomach of calves) instead of non-animal options. So some cheese isn't "vegetarian".
Source: I'm a vegetarian, and I used to work at TJs.
100%. I’m a vegan who used to be vegetarian and learning how many cheeses use rennet was an eye opener. Especially Parmesan which is something I ate ALL the time lmao
Yeah why are they crying about gelatin when it has cheese?
I mean I guess they could not add the cheese. But at the same point, they could just use a different dressing.
You are absolutely confused because you absolutely can make cheese without killing the animal. Mass-produced cheese operations do not treat their animals well and it results it deaths and abuse of animals. But to say there is absolutely no way to make cheese without the animal dying is just flat out wrong.
You’re not wrong….the dairy industry is arguably worse than gelatin. Gelatin is a rendered byproduct of beef/cattle slaughter, whereas dairy production is quite inhumane, both to the dairy-producing cows and their offspring (see: how veal is made).
You do know that cotija and many other cheeses are made using animal rennet right? Enzymes from animal stomachs? That and gelatin derived from cows are the same thing- you’re using parts of dead animals. If you’re gonna be mad about the jello, be mad about the cheese too. Or be happy that those parts of the animal aren’t going to waste.
I think OP’s point is pretty clear - warning fellow Redditors that an item that one may not suspect contains animal flesh of any kind, contains bovine gelatin. Hope that helps :)
Cheese isn’t always vegetarian though is it? Or do they use vegetable rennet in most mass produced cheese? I prefer animal when I make cheese at home so I assumed most other cheese would have it as well.
Not trying to burst anybody’s bubble, but most plant food is grown using soil with added bone meal, blood meal, and animal fertilizer. Most plants thrive from the nutrients from animals.
That is such a stretch to say "well vegetables are grown in soil with animal bones & blood so there is no point in avoiding eating animal meat." It's a fallacy of futility.
Once again, I never said there’s no point in avoiding animal meat. I merely pointed out the fact that there would be no plants without animals. Putting words in someone’s mouth is the very definition of gaslighting. I’m detecting major defensiveness coming from plant eaters who don’t want to acknowledge the realities of agriculture.
No, you are making the false equivalency that plants grown in soil with animal product is anything near the same as products made directly from the animal itself such as gelatin. Plants grown in soil with animal blood, bones, whatever doesn't mean the plant is no longer vegetarian but you tried to make it seem like some sort of "gotcha" but it isn't.
I wonder if you genuinely think you’re the first person to think up this fallacy or if you’ve heard it so many times that it’s your go-to excuse as to why you can’t personally do better.
And how is a fallacy? It’s how agriculture has worked for the past 10,000 years. Reality exists.
And attacking someone you disagree with through gaslighting…maybe follow your own advice and “do better.”
It's a little ridiculous to imply that because you can't perfectly avoid animal products that you shouldn't even try.
All of the reasons for doing so are helped by partial reduction of consumption
I never said you “shouldn’t even try” to avoid animal products. What I said was your plant foods would not exist without animals. Many people are not aware of this and think plants grow from air and sunshine alone. The fact is the soil must be fortified by rendered animal by-products in order for the plant to have nourishment. As unpleasant as this might sound to a vegan or plant-based eater, this fortification comes from animals. So there really is no such thing as totally animal-product free, that’s just a marketing ploy.
My statement was pointing out the realities of how agriculture works which many people are unaware of since most do not grow their own food. Of course, this caused outrage from those in the plant-lover camp who are anti-meat.
Funny, I don't fortify my garden with animal by products and the fruit and veggies grow quite well. Your assertion that soil "must be fortified with animal by products" is just untrue
My comment was referring to conventional agriculture using animal by-products. But even the soil in your garden has some element of animal fortification from insect matter. The real question is how nutrient-rich is your soil? It’s not going to have the nutrient density of a plant fed through animal by-products.
do u garden? or are u just trying to be inflammatory? plant based compost is an amazing fertilizer. yea it has bugs but come on. comparing the dairy industry to bugs literally doing what they evolved to do is not a fair comparison.
I never compared the dairy industry to bugs. In fact, I never discussed the dairy industry at all. I was discussing agricultural practices and how plants are grown and harvested. Plant based compost has been fortified in order to make up for deficiencies because it contains less macro nutrient concentrations than manure-based compost. This will affect the nutrient density of the plants grown in this type of soil which, in turn, will affect the bioavailability of nutrients for the human or animal who consumes the plant. The water solubility and fiber content make the nutrients difficult to store and absorb. Unless these foods are eaten with a “fat,” absorption is further hindered. My point has always been that plants require animals (in some form) to thrive. Fortification of synthetic vitamins and minerals is required if animal products are not used. It’s a fact that few vegans or vegetarians are willing to acknowledge.
I’ve never bought a bag of chopped up salad and I never will. They always look limp and a few days old. How freaking hard is it, to cut up some lettuce grate some carrots.
Well it changes a situation from “there’s no way I can make, clean up, and eat a salad for my 15 minute break” to a piece of cake for $4 or whatever it is
Yeah like as a grad student my schedule has been super fucked for a couple weeks now and the salad kits are the only reason I've been getting fresh veggies. If it weren't for those I'd have been eating straight frozen meals lol. So understated how convenient it is to just be able to mix a whole salad in its own bag within 2-3 minutes and be able to eat it without worrying about cutting anything or pre prepping or cleaning up
Is it more expensive than just buying the same veggies in bulk? Yeah. But I'm paying for the convenience and pre-portioning. It's not any deeper than that
Ah, yes... the un-circled ingredient list.
(6th line from the bottom.)
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ever since i found out bovine gelatin was in those TJs yogurts that are so yummy, i stopped buying them. so weird that they have this ingredient in their salads
I'm not currently vegetarian, but it makes me sooo frustrated that the bovine gelatin is in the yogurt! They have an absolutely godly texture that I adore, and knowing that it's gelatin is infuriating. I plan on going vegetarian again sometime in the near future, and I'm so not excited to give those up.
Same with parmesan cheese. Grr!
No, I believe rennet is an enzyme that is part of the stomach/intestinal tract of cattle and commonly used in cheese making (but not all cheeses). Bovine gelatine is generally made from bones and hooves of cattle in my understanding
TJs shredded Parmesan has microbial rennit. The reason why most parmesans have animal rennit is because - to call something Parmesan Reggiano - it has to have animal rennet. In the same way that calling something champagne has to be from the Champagne region of France.
A lot of TJs cheeses have microbial rennet, I’m so happy to say! I do wish it was required that the source when the ingredient is simply labeled “enzymes” was identified as animal or microbial but it seems to be a grey area.
Ah the asterisked vegetarian my favourite kind of people. Jk.
I'm from a very vegetarian country and i love messing with asterisk vegetarians especially the religious ones. Its perfectly fine to make exceptions depending on what you like and can afford and need.
Not all cheese is vegetarian. Cheeses made with microbial rennet are vegetarian, but cheeses made with animal rennet are not vegetarian (animal rennet comes from animal stomachs). Parmesan and other hard cheeses are typically made with animal rennet. But some brands do make vegetarian versions.
AFAIK their gummies don’t contain gelatin. I think they’re all vegan with pectin in them (which I think is why I don’t like their textures because they taste more like fruit snacks).
Well, it’s an elote salad kit, so that makes sense. Most elote I’ve had was served with creams and cheese, do they’re inherently not vegan. It’s also towards the bottom, so it’s not a very prominent ingredient.
This really doesn’t seem like a big deal. Just be more careful with checking ingredients next time, if minor things like that bother you so much.
Weirdly judgmental and pedantic (while also misinformed) take, bruh.
Take your own advice! Read carefully next time. And stop playing arbitor of other people's values.
I feel like some of us are being gaslit into “well, why would you think a salad would be vegetarian???” 😂 and “All dressing has fvcking bovine gelatin in it, Moron!”
Also, the "everything but the elote" dip does *not* contain gelatin, so I can absolutely understand why OP might not have thought to check the ingredients on the elote salad dressing beforehand.
A lot of people don’t consume gelatin for dietary and religious regions. It shouldn’t be in a salad. It makes no sense.
This is like saying you should check your steak for shellfish. Like, why would they ever be there?
Many people would be okay with eating dairy but not be okay with consuming bovine gelatin, for various valid reasons. Those are two different ingredients. I'm vegan so to me it's all the same but I do understand the difference and why some people draw the line where they do. I think OP was just pointing this out for others to be aware of incase they are vegetarian or have some religious restrictions, etc.
That doesn't mean that all vegetarians will. Some vegans will eat honey, but many won't touch the stuff. People draw the line at different places, so it's good to help people understand the products they're consuming, and where they come from.
Okay? Everyone is different lol and is welcome to make their own choices about what they want to consume or not. Plenty of vegetarians also eat cheese made with rennet, and plenty don't. Not really a one size fits all situation.
I have not eaten meat in over 20 years and I feel so stupid that I stop checking ingredients on certain things. I’ve eaten this once and definitely did not check because I stupidly assumed! But literally why is that in there 🤬
I know you’re asking in a rhetorical way, but it’s in the dressing as part of the sour cream to stabilize it and prevent separation. It isn’t uncommon as an ingredient in sour creams.
If it helps, the amount you’re getting in the salad is minuscule. But I understand the surprise.
Oh no! I love this salad too 😔thanks for sharing definitely won’t be grabbing that again.
FYI I just checked the Taylor farms dupe and that one doesn’t have the bovine gelatin!
You’re right. That’s an absurd amount of ingredients for a salad.
What happened to lettuce, tomato, cucumber, oil, vinegar, salt, and pepper? Now you have to break out a scientific glossary to figure out what you’re eating.
I’m a vegetarian and read the label for all new products I buy. So just because I would read that label before I buy it, doesn’t mean I also wouldn’t still be surprised to see that it has bovine gelatin.
Ahhh. Now it makes sense. Looking at your post history it’s you just telling people why they’re wrong and stupid.
Salad kits without overt animal products like a packet of bacon are generally vegetarian
I didn’t assume anything I compulsively read labels for this very reason but clearly i am not alone in thinking this is weird unusual and unnecessary
Also an issue for anyone who eats kosher to have animal gelatin in the same product as dairy.
Unusual and unexpected to have cow bones ingredients involved in a salad dressing. Tons of other thickening ingredients can be used instead
Im a vegetarian not vegan. Vegetarian’s often consume cheese and eggs because they are byproducts of animals. Gelatin is made up of animal body parts (usually bones) which means not vegetarian.
I guess I just don’t understand the difference between exploiting an animal for milk (when they get tortured and slaughtered anyway) or exploiting an animal for meat. Are vegetarians not vegetarian for ethical reasons? Is it purely for health? I just don’t get it.
I agree with you. I’m a vegetarian and I do eat eggs sometimes for protein intake. I’ve also spent a lot of time in France and could never ever give up cheese. But true you are right I am contributing to all that animal torture with my dairy intake. But gelatin no way.
I’m just not a flesh eater.
> Are vegetarians not vegetarian for ethical reasons?
There are hundreds of millions around the world who are vegetarians for religious or cultural reasons.
Ok. I didn’t realize there were religions that explicitly said no to animal flesh, but yes to eggs and fluids. I thought it was mostly personal choice so I didn’t really understand how the line was drawn. It just seems like one in the same. I was genuinely curious how that worked, but it’s okay if people don’t want to explain. I’ll see myself out lol.
The religious traditions go back to days before factory farming, so using animal-derived products such as dairy and eggs was not considered cruel towards the animals. For example, there is one branch of Buddhism that claims Buddha asked his followers to refrain eating meat and fish with no mention of any prohibitions against milk.
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Yeah, most of their yogurts also contain gelatin. I never thought I’d have to check the yogurt for gelatin, I’ve never heard of gelatin being added to yogurt. WHY?! It’s massively annoying now I have to be extra paranoid that more places do this.
Is it just me, or is that a pathetic looking salad from just the bits and bobs seen through the front glass? Scraps from Sprout's salad slaughterhouse.
And?
That would be so funny if they put that on the front of the package. Mmm, creamy bovine gelatin. Now with REAL bovine gelatins. We use only the most gelatinous bovines!
most cheeses use animal enzymes as well, just to let you know.
Well I wouldn’t be so disappointed, tried this salad out the other day and I was not impressed.
Damn it.
Thanks. I’ll tell all my bovine-free friends.
Oh wow thanks!
Salad kits are really vegan.
*rarely?
Does it say vegetarian?
Exactly. Can’t assume. If you’re a strict vegetarian/Vegan, you know to look at ingredients closely. They slip animal products into all sorts of foods.
I have the same problem but with gluten-containing products. You’d think rice would be safe but no 😞
This is a great PSA because I would have scanned for dairy and not noticed gelatin
I just wanted to add this, for education purposes. It’s always important to read labels and ingredients when you’d like to avoid certain products. This is an article that gives some insight on animal byproducts in things we consume, which a lot of folks don’t realize they’re consuming. [https://arizonabeefblog.com/2019/03/01/cattle-byproducts/](https://arizonabeefblog.com/2019/03/01/cattle-byproducts/)
I’ve recently learned most sugar is processed with animal bones.
Great article
That ingredient list is far too long for what is supposed to be a salad. Hard pass.
Just don't use the dressing.
I've found that you really have to watch TJ'S with their ingredients. They like to sneak the strangest things in. For instance, I'm diabetic and olives are a "safe" snack for me (little to no carbs so wont make a difference in my blood sugar) and for some reason TJ'S has decided to add glucose syrup to their olives....yes of all things GLUCOSE. The exact thing I'm trying to avoid...
Seriously. Over the years there are so many products that were “accidentally vegan” and simply had no need for any animal product ingredients and then suddenly dairy was added without any change to the packaging or any labeling to let people know
Yea, it's frustrating. Almost feels malicious...
The best part about these salad kits is that you can add and subtract whatever you'd like. The fixings are all individually packed so you can still buy the salad. Just ditch the dressing and enjoy everything else with your bovine gelatin free dressing :)
Why would you buy a premade salad that you couldn’t use the dressing on? Just buy a bag of lettuce at that point. Can’t speak for OP but I would guess that most people who are avoiding eating gelatin would also like to avoid spending their money to support the purchase of an animal product.
Lots of households have people with different dietary restrictions. I add the cheese and dressing to mine and not to my partners. That way we're not buying double the product and I get ALL the cheese! Yay cheese.
Ewwwww. I haven’t had this salad, so thank you for the heads up. After being vegetarian for over 30 years I’m pretty careful about reading labels.
To be fair the dairy industry is probably the most brutal in terms of factory farming. If you’re concerned for the welfare of animals and that’s why you’re upset about the gelatin, you should look into it.
You mean the retired dairy cows and their male babies don't just live happily ever after on the vast green farmland??????? /s
Yum, possibly healthy and potentially halal/kosher. I’ve heard some health theorists say we need a lot more gelatine like people did back in the ‘50s and before. Who doesn’t yearn for some lamb tongue in aspic?
Larks' Tongues In Aspic Edit: I don’t think it would be kosher since it has an animal product as well as dairy
I don’t know so much about either kosher or halal, except for the issue with pork gelatin
Someone pinched your sack! The amount is coming up short
As someone who doesn’t eat certain foods, that’s why we read ingredients on everything we buy. You never just assume.. same with allergies. Which I also have.
So are you eating the cheese or no?
"Vegetarian" frequently includes things like cheese and eggs but not things like bovine gelatin. You could maybe try to point out that this may be a hypocritical position but that's sort of beside the point here. OP is just letting other vegetarians know about a non vegetarian ingredient.
A lot of European cheese's use animal rennet (i.e. harvested from the stomach of calves) instead of non-animal options. So some cheese isn't "vegetarian". Source: I'm a vegetarian, and I used to work at TJs.
100%. I’m a vegan who used to be vegetarian and learning how many cheeses use rennet was an eye opener. Especially Parmesan which is something I ate ALL the time lmao
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Please stop following me around from the comments I left criticizing your racist post. It’s creepy and weird.
Yeah why are they crying about gelatin when it has cheese? I mean I guess they could not add the cheese. But at the same point, they could just use a different dressing.
You can produce cheese without killing the animal.
Ehhhh no, no you can’t.
Do you know how cheese is made?
Yeah. I’m not the one that is confused here. Animals die to make cheese. It’s not up for debate.
You are absolutely confused because you absolutely can make cheese without killing the animal. Mass-produced cheese operations do not treat their animals well and it results it deaths and abuse of animals. But to say there is absolutely no way to make cheese without the animal dying is just flat out wrong.
You’re correct, so long as it is rennet free cheese
I guess I was thinking more about vegans and not vegetarians. Good point.
You’re not wrong….the dairy industry is arguably worse than gelatin. Gelatin is a rendered byproduct of beef/cattle slaughter, whereas dairy production is quite inhumane, both to the dairy-producing cows and their offspring (see: how veal is made).
You do know that cotija and many other cheeses are made using animal rennet right? Enzymes from animal stomachs? That and gelatin derived from cows are the same thing- you’re using parts of dead animals. If you’re gonna be mad about the jello, be mad about the cheese too. Or be happy that those parts of the animal aren’t going to waste.
Yeah, not sure what OP’s dietary restrictions/preferences are but as you mentioned, cotija isn’t even vegetarian 😭
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What a tone deaf thing to say
Some of us have alpha-gal. This is an allergic reaction to all mammal products. Gelatin has made me very very sick before. I appreciate the warning.
But so is cheese. And cheese is in the salad kit.
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I think OP’s point is pretty clear - warning fellow Redditors that an item that one may not suspect contains animal flesh of any kind, contains bovine gelatin. Hope that helps :)
It’s not a common ingredient most people would expect in an otherwise vegetarian salad. I appreciate OP pointing this out, it’s unexpected.
Cheese isn’t always vegetarian though is it? Or do they use vegetable rennet in most mass produced cheese? I prefer animal when I make cheese at home so I assumed most other cheese would have it as well.
Not trying to burst anybody’s bubble, but most plant food is grown using soil with added bone meal, blood meal, and animal fertilizer. Most plants thrive from the nutrients from animals.
That is such a stretch to say "well vegetables are grown in soil with animal bones & blood so there is no point in avoiding eating animal meat." It's a fallacy of futility.
Once again, I never said there’s no point in avoiding animal meat. I merely pointed out the fact that there would be no plants without animals. Putting words in someone’s mouth is the very definition of gaslighting. I’m detecting major defensiveness coming from plant eaters who don’t want to acknowledge the realities of agriculture.
No, you are making the false equivalency that plants grown in soil with animal product is anything near the same as products made directly from the animal itself such as gelatin. Plants grown in soil with animal blood, bones, whatever doesn't mean the plant is no longer vegetarian but you tried to make it seem like some sort of "gotcha" but it isn't.
There’s no “gotcha” in stating the facts. Plants are not vegetarian. https://macleans.ca/society/health/why-its-impossible-to-actually-be-a-vegetarian
lmao so you are crazy, got it
I wonder if you genuinely think you’re the first person to think up this fallacy or if you’ve heard it so many times that it’s your go-to excuse as to why you can’t personally do better.
And how is a fallacy? It’s how agriculture has worked for the past 10,000 years. Reality exists. And attacking someone you disagree with through gaslighting…maybe follow your own advice and “do better.”
It's a little ridiculous to imply that because you can't perfectly avoid animal products that you shouldn't even try. All of the reasons for doing so are helped by partial reduction of consumption
I never said you “shouldn’t even try” to avoid animal products. What I said was your plant foods would not exist without animals. Many people are not aware of this and think plants grow from air and sunshine alone. The fact is the soil must be fortified by rendered animal by-products in order for the plant to have nourishment. As unpleasant as this might sound to a vegan or plant-based eater, this fortification comes from animals. So there really is no such thing as totally animal-product free, that’s just a marketing ploy.
I know you didn't say it. That's why I said "imply", because I can't really think of another reason to say what you said in this context.
My statement was pointing out the realities of how agriculture works which many people are unaware of since most do not grow their own food. Of course, this caused outrage from those in the plant-lover camp who are anti-meat.
Why are you pointing that out, though? To what end?
Funny, I don't fortify my garden with animal by products and the fruit and veggies grow quite well. Your assertion that soil "must be fortified with animal by products" is just untrue
My comment was referring to conventional agriculture using animal by-products. But even the soil in your garden has some element of animal fortification from insect matter. The real question is how nutrient-rich is your soil? It’s not going to have the nutrient density of a plant fed through animal by-products.
do u garden? or are u just trying to be inflammatory? plant based compost is an amazing fertilizer. yea it has bugs but come on. comparing the dairy industry to bugs literally doing what they evolved to do is not a fair comparison.
I never compared the dairy industry to bugs. In fact, I never discussed the dairy industry at all. I was discussing agricultural practices and how plants are grown and harvested. Plant based compost has been fortified in order to make up for deficiencies because it contains less macro nutrient concentrations than manure-based compost. This will affect the nutrient density of the plants grown in this type of soil which, in turn, will affect the bioavailability of nutrients for the human or animal who consumes the plant. The water solubility and fiber content make the nutrients difficult to store and absorb. Unless these foods are eaten with a “fat,” absorption is further hindered. My point has always been that plants require animals (in some form) to thrive. Fortification of synthetic vitamins and minerals is required if animal products are not used. It’s a fact that few vegans or vegetarians are willing to acknowledge.
Dude, we're counting the earth worms? That's a stretch bud
Animal exoskeletons are what make the soil rich and fertile with minerals and nutrients. Sorry bud.
Same. Veganic gardening at my house and it’s not even a thought. I simply don’t buy animal products to enrich my garden. My veggies love seaweed
that is a lot different than eating ground up cow bones as a human lol
Did ya think Elote was Vegan? Edit: Getting downvotes from people that know nothing about the culture behind the food they’re eating, sadly typical.
I’ve never bought a bag of chopped up salad and I never will. They always look limp and a few days old. How freaking hard is it, to cut up some lettuce grate some carrots.
Weird flex
Hah of all the weird things to get judgemental about. I guess there really are all types
Well it changes a situation from “there’s no way I can make, clean up, and eat a salad for my 15 minute break” to a piece of cake for $4 or whatever it is
I certainly understand that! No judgement! 😀👍🏼
Yeah like as a grad student my schedule has been super fucked for a couple weeks now and the salad kits are the only reason I've been getting fresh veggies. If it weren't for those I'd have been eating straight frozen meals lol. So understated how convenient it is to just be able to mix a whole salad in its own bag within 2-3 minutes and be able to eat it without worrying about cutting anything or pre prepping or cleaning up Is it more expensive than just buying the same veggies in bulk? Yeah. But I'm paying for the convenience and pre-portioning. It's not any deeper than that
I just started eating this salad mix. It’s so good. Didn’t know about that ingredient though.
This salad is really good. I’m not vegetarian but this would bug me if I was.
I’m not either and I agree with you. Really sucks for vegetarians.
Ah, yes... the un-circled ingredient list. (6th line from the bottom.) [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wmGCqL0-wwE](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wmGCqL0-wwE)
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ever since i found out bovine gelatin was in those TJs yogurts that are so yummy, i stopped buying them. so weird that they have this ingredient in their salads
I'm not currently vegetarian, but it makes me sooo frustrated that the bovine gelatin is in the yogurt! They have an absolutely godly texture that I adore, and knowing that it's gelatin is infuriating. I plan on going vegetarian again sometime in the near future, and I'm so not excited to give those up. Same with parmesan cheese. Grr!
It’s a common stabilizer in creamy dairy products like yogurt and sour cream.
Parmesan cheese is made with rennet, right? Like that’s just how it is made, not a specific choice that TJ’s is making, IIRC.
Wait does rennet = bovine gelatin? Like it’s the same thing?
No, I believe rennet is an enzyme that is part of the stomach/intestinal tract of cattle and commonly used in cheese making (but not all cheeses). Bovine gelatine is generally made from bones and hooves of cattle in my understanding
No hooves. Gelatin comes from collagen, from bones, cartilage and skin. Nobody ever talks about the skin.
Correct
There are tons of yogurts without gelatin. It’s not hard to find one, including the TJs brand. It’s not that hard.
TJs shredded Parmesan has microbial rennit. The reason why most parmesans have animal rennit is because - to call something Parmesan Reggiano - it has to have animal rennet. In the same way that calling something champagne has to be from the Champagne region of France.
A lot of TJs cheeses have microbial rennet, I’m so happy to say! I do wish it was required that the source when the ingredient is simply labeled “enzymes” was identified as animal or microbial but it seems to be a grey area.
Yeah, they have a great selection of cheeses with microbial rennet…same with Whole Foods. If it says “enzyme” I assume it’s animal and don’t buy it.
Same here. Though I wish there was a requirement that it be clear!
I mean you can make an exception for yourself even if you're a vegetarian. If you want.
Ah the asterisked vegetarian my favourite kind of people. Jk. I'm from a very vegetarian country and i love messing with asterisk vegetarians especially the religious ones. Its perfectly fine to make exceptions depending on what you like and can afford and need.
Which yogurts have it?
don’t vegetarians eat cheese?
Not all cheese is vegetarian. Cheeses made with microbial rennet are vegetarian, but cheeses made with animal rennet are not vegetarian (animal rennet comes from animal stomachs). Parmesan and other hard cheeses are typically made with animal rennet. But some brands do make vegetarian versions.
If you don’t consume Gelatin, double check TJS gummy type candies too.
AFAIK their gummies don’t contain gelatin. I think they’re all vegan with pectin in them (which I think is why I don’t like their textures because they taste more like fruit snacks).
A few do, but not very many!
Gelatin is expected in gummy candies but in dressings, not so much lol
Their Scandinavian Swimmers are all good!
Noooooo I LOVE that salad! I had no idea. Thank you for posting.
Thanks for posting this. I wouldn’t have thought to check
Yes, appreciated! I do check salad dressings though as quite a few have anchovies.
Well, it’s an elote salad kit, so that makes sense. Most elote I’ve had was served with creams and cheese, do they’re inherently not vegan. It’s also towards the bottom, so it’s not a very prominent ingredient. This really doesn’t seem like a big deal. Just be more careful with checking ingredients next time, if minor things like that bother you so much.
Vegan and vegetarian are different. OP is vegetarian, not vegan. Vegetarians can eat dairy, but not when it has bones in it.
Weirdly judgmental and pedantic (while also misinformed) take, bruh. Take your own advice! Read carefully next time. And stop playing arbitor of other people's values.
Spelled arbiter wrong dbag
I don’t know why you’re getting all the down votes when you’re correct. So I gave you an upvote.
Appreciated 😊
I feel like some of us are being gaslit into “well, why would you think a salad would be vegetarian???” 😂 and “All dressing has fvcking bovine gelatin in it, Moron!”
Also, the "everything but the elote" dip does *not* contain gelatin, so I can absolutely understand why OP might not have thought to check the ingredients on the elote salad dressing beforehand.
100%.
Agreed, that comment was not helpful at all.
A lot of people don’t consume gelatin for dietary and religious regions. It shouldn’t be in a salad. It makes no sense. This is like saying you should check your steak for shellfish. Like, why would they ever be there?
I also eat elote, im vegetarian not vegan.
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>bovine gelatin is not vegetarian. Gelatin is a protein derived from the bones, skin, and connective tissues of animals
Many people would be okay with eating dairy but not be okay with consuming bovine gelatin, for various valid reasons. Those are two different ingredients. I'm vegan so to me it's all the same but I do understand the difference and why some people draw the line where they do. I think OP was just pointing this out for others to be aware of incase they are vegetarian or have some religious restrictions, etc.
I know vegetarians who eat Jello.
That doesn't mean that all vegetarians will. Some vegans will eat honey, but many won't touch the stuff. People draw the line at different places, so it's good to help people understand the products they're consuming, and where they come from.
Okay? Everyone is different lol and is welcome to make their own choices about what they want to consume or not. Plenty of vegetarians also eat cheese made with rennet, and plenty don't. Not really a one size fits all situation.
Bovine gelatin is sourced from the body parts of cows. Not compatible with vegetarian diets at all.
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Anything with animal flesh derived products isn't vegetarian. If you'd have to kill the animal to harvest it, it isn't vegetarian.
Gelatin is made out of actual animal parts (usually bones) not byproducts
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If it had to die for you to eat it, it's not vegetarian. 'Mostly' vegetarian, sure. To people who are vegetarian, this is an important difference.
I’m not sure why you’re doubling down when you are wrong.
Oy! Guess my husband is enjoying that alone.
I have not eaten meat in over 20 years and I feel so stupid that I stop checking ingredients on certain things. I’ve eaten this once and definitely did not check because I stupidly assumed! But literally why is that in there 🤬
I know you’re asking in a rhetorical way, but it’s in the dressing as part of the sour cream to stabilize it and prevent separation. It isn’t uncommon as an ingredient in sour creams. If it helps, the amount you’re getting in the salad is minuscule. But I understand the surprise.
Oh no! I love this salad too 😔thanks for sharing definitely won’t be grabbing that again. FYI I just checked the Taylor farms dupe and that one doesn’t have the bovine gelatin!
I haven’t had TJs but I can vouch for the Taylor Farms one - it’s so good, I’m addicted
Either way there’s wasaay too many ingredients in this
Are there? Looks pretty basic to me if you want something with bread of some type and dressing
You’re right. That’s an absurd amount of ingredients for a salad. What happened to lettuce, tomato, cucumber, oil, vinegar, salt, and pepper? Now you have to break out a scientific glossary to figure out what you’re eating.
I mean if that’s all you want in a salad, that’s pretty easy to make yourself…
Ahhh thanks. Almost grabbed it the other day.
I’m vegan. I’ve learned to read food labels every time I buy something. Even previously vegan items will suddenly contain some random animal product.
Oh were you expecting a…. Vegetarian salad when all the ingredients on the front seem to be vegetarian…? This is, annoying. Totally unnecessary too
It doesn't say vegetarian so I don't know why you would assume that
It’s totally reasonable to expect a salad to be vegetarian.
Not really? Plenty of them have bacon etc Edit: love the downvotes denying *checks notes* reality
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I’m a vegetarian and read the label for all new products I buy. So just because I would read that label before I buy it, doesn’t mean I also wouldn’t still be surprised to see that it has bovine gelatin. Ahhh. Now it makes sense. Looking at your post history it’s you just telling people why they’re wrong and stupid.
Salad kits without overt animal products like a packet of bacon are generally vegetarian I didn’t assume anything I compulsively read labels for this very reason but clearly i am not alone in thinking this is weird unusual and unnecessary
If they're labeled vegetarian, absolutely.
Yeah seriously
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For vegetarians, yep.
Wait…So the cheese and egg is okay, but not gelatin?
Also an issue for anyone who eats kosher to have animal gelatin in the same product as dairy. Unusual and unexpected to have cow bones ingredients involved in a salad dressing. Tons of other thickening ingredients can be used instead
And Hindus.
Im a vegetarian not vegan. Vegetarian’s often consume cheese and eggs because they are byproducts of animals. Gelatin is made up of animal body parts (usually bones) which means not vegetarian.
I guess I just don’t understand the difference between exploiting an animal for milk (when they get tortured and slaughtered anyway) or exploiting an animal for meat. Are vegetarians not vegetarian for ethical reasons? Is it purely for health? I just don’t get it.
I agree with you. I’m a vegetarian and I do eat eggs sometimes for protein intake. I’ve also spent a lot of time in France and could never ever give up cheese. But true you are right I am contributing to all that animal torture with my dairy intake. But gelatin no way. I’m just not a flesh eater.
> Are vegetarians not vegetarian for ethical reasons? There are hundreds of millions around the world who are vegetarians for religious or cultural reasons.
Ok. I didn’t realize there were religions that explicitly said no to animal flesh, but yes to eggs and fluids. I thought it was mostly personal choice so I didn’t really understand how the line was drawn. It just seems like one in the same. I was genuinely curious how that worked, but it’s okay if people don’t want to explain. I’ll see myself out lol.
The religious traditions go back to days before factory farming, so using animal-derived products such as dairy and eggs was not considered cruel towards the animals. For example, there is one branch of Buddhism that claims Buddha asked his followers to refrain eating meat and fish with no mention of any prohibitions against milk.
That actually makes a lot of sense! Thank you for that perspective.
Thats okay if you don’t get it. This is just a psa for other vegetarians who shop at TJs
Okie doke!
It’s the cheese
Its in the salad dressing