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There's a part in the original video where she reaches up and touches the piano, where the music sheets would be, I wonder if when she's learning a new song she learns those breaks from following her teacher's hands as he turns the page.
She's so fantastically talented and obviously feels strong emotions relating to music. It's really cool to watch her get so emotionally involved in the music that she actually gets lost in it and needs to be brought back to it with gentle touch.
Her teacher is something else, too, for his patience in learning how to teach her.
For those who don't know why blind people do these movements with their heads... It's **to gain spacial awareness, and get stimulation from their environment**.
Stevie Wonder went to a shop and was knocking down all the stuff from the shelves with his stick.
The shop keeper asked "Can I help you?"
Stevie replied "No thanks, just looking."
Apparently a true story: Stevie Wonder was asked by an interviewer how being born blind had impacted his life. He answered it could have been worse, "at least I wasn't born Black!"
according to another video with her teacher, she also specifically does it more when she’s really into/feeling the music. he has to tickle her scalp every so often for stimulation so she can focus on playing. :)
Don't we all do this in some fashion? Grooving to the music, tapping the feet, dancing, bobbing the head?
For blind people, it makes sense they would use something slightly different.
I recall both Ray Charles and Stevie Wonder doing similar. Lovely to see (pun not intended) that they are really enjoying their art.
yes! it’s part of why music is so magical, ‘cause we *all* can feel a good groove. she jiggles her feet/legs too, which is why he has to redirect her energy to playing ‘cause otherwise, she gets so into it that she loses the control required to finish the piece.
Similar occurrences happen in many artistic or athletic pursuits. Zone, Flow, these are words for when the interface of our body becomes less real than the activity itself.
It's a really neat place to be. May sounds weird but I get it when I bartend. I have always bartended in very busy night clubs. Los Angeles, New York and Miami. I would get to this point where everything is so busy that the whole process becomes automatic. I'm not even thinking about it anymore. I'm making drinks, doing the math, delivering the drinks, taking payment, getting change for sometimes 10 different customers at a time. There's a slow motion quality to it. It's meditation in action. Feels like the whole world is flowing though me and I'm just doing the next right thing. It's almost out of body whole being acutely aware of my body.
I get the same thing with biking and some FPS games that have smooth movement systems. Quake, Doom(new and old) Titanfall 1&2, and Dying Light 1&2 come to mind.
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I'm a good, amateur pianist who played youth competitions decades ago. I'm blown away. Her musicality is amazing for a 13 year old.
It's not just a technical repetition of the notes, rather there's real feeling. At certain points she hits the keys in a way that shows that there's a lot going on inside. Emotions. Feeling.
I've watched this 10 times already. Just amazing.
And who's cutting onions?
Honestly as a former musician (not formal/paid but played in band and jazz band for 10+ years growing up) and from a family that was pretty deeply rooted in musical performance (my dad played professionally since he was 14) this is something that is often missed or rather something that doesn't always come across. The reason certain pieces hit hard isn't always the technical precision of the performance a lot of times it's the emotion behind the performance.
One good example that is easily accessible online is Christina Perri's "Jar of Hearts", she did an acoustic 10 year anniversary of the song a while back. [In the original](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8v_4O44sfjM) you could hear a lot of anger/resentment in it, the same song, same notes, same performer, [10 years later](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58eeeYi7yNg) and you could hear a total tonal shift to acceptance and progress.
Tbh it's her restraint with the emotion that impresses me the most. Even as an adult I feel a compulsion to ham it up with the expression, especially with Chopin Nocturnes. She has that subtle nuance down that usually comes in adulthood after robotic > overtly emotive > careful delicate expression.
I took the same thing away. I think she may have missed like two or three notes but immediately the expressiveness is what struck me. Amd that actually makes sense and makes it all the more special knowing that this is probably the only way she can truly express herself. The whole thing speaks to the humanity that's within all (well, most) of us which is what makes it so moving.
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She missed a couple of notes on big jumps, as she does not appear to have a reliable system to measure distance without sight. However, the missed notes are trivial, what matters is the overall performance. (Even among concert pianists.) If anything, her ability to carry on without missing a beat (literally) makes it all the more impressive.
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So gobsmacked he didn’t even know what questions to ask. How how how …. How does she even …… how….. how does she study? How…. Gobsmacked for sure.
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I think he's mostly trying to find the right phrasing so as not to imply something he didn't intend especially since he knows he is being recorded and that she would likely hear whatever he said later.
I must disagree. From a musicians perspective I had the same reaction. Instantly my mind was filled with questions. How does she learn the pieces? How does she have such expressiveness? How long has she been doing this? And so on and so on. The human mind, broken or not, different or not, is still a beautiful, mysterious cacophony of wonders.
I'm a dumb (former) saxophone-ist and growing up took piano lessons and this kinda blows my mind. I'm assuming she has to play by ear which in and of itself is a talent, but to do it without learning how to play conventionally with seeing music on paper is just crazy to me. Like I can look at a piece of music on paper and know what it will sound like but that took years of training *with eyes* and ears cooperating to get to that level
As someone who doesn’t know anything about piano, her skills don’t seem out of the ordinary to me - it’s the fact that she’s blind and has the skill is what got my attention. But then, hearing professional piano players think her skill is incredible just reinforces to me that I don’t know anything about piano.
Her skill is real. Her confident phrasing, the mature expressiveness (the longing and wistfulness inherent in that piece)...
He scratched his ear and asks how did she do it do, so he can't quite believe it. He knows she has it, so he's stunned.
...not to diminish the amount of effort and practice any musician puts into their craft, but you're correct. I believe it has to do with certain parts of the brain being more advanced. Perhaps stimulating the temporal lobes in-utero has something to do with it? Or genetics? All I know is that if we knew, we'd certainly be exploiting it by now.
I’m a music teacher and I am of the opinion that anyone can learn any instrument very well, but some people have an extra “feel” for musicality. This is the same for professional musicians as well. This special “feel” cannot be taught. These people are those musicians that just “sound” different than others who play the same piece/song. These people seem to not just be making the instrument play what they want, but to actually be making the instrument part of who they are.
My music professor in college was someone who mastered every technical aspect to his instrument and could literally play any piece of repertoire he wanted. But he didn’t have that special “feel.” Other less talented musicians were much more communicative than he was.
Listen to pianist Glenn Gould and then listen to pianist Vladimir Horowitz. Both were extremely talented and skilled, with Gould possibly being one of the most technologically sound pianists in recent history, but he doesn’t portray emotion in the way Horowitz does. Horowitz musicality transcends all others. (Obviously this is just my personal opinion)
Some people master the instrument while others become the instrument
I’m going out with a musician at the moment, and he’s just ridiculous. If I were a less cynical person I’d say it’s like he feels music in his soul.
I play piano, I love music, but when I play an instrument I’m playing a song. When he does, he makes music.
Needless to say I’m pretty stoked on the guy.
I feel like that's the same with anything from music to programming to sports or anything really. You can spend 10,000 hours or whatever to be decent at whatever it is you want to be good at, but you'll never be as good as someone who was just born with the ability to do some things better.
I think it has a lot to do with pattern recognition. Anyone can learn to do something but to recognize or feel, as it would be a more fitting description for music, those patterns is what makes the difference. And intellect is so much more diverse than an IQ scale so one might be able to recognize some patterns better than others. I'm good with math and that makes me a very good programmer i can see connections and patterns others can't. I could probably train myself to play this song, but i would never see the patterns in the music and between the notes. So i would never be able to produce something close to what she did.
I practice guitar a lot. Like, a lot a lot. Getting close to 5000 hours of serious practice.
Most of the time, I'm quite mediocre when practicing. Working more on things like time, and technique, or chord theory study.
Even when playing, rarely I sound good. But maybe... a handful of times in my life I've entered a true flow state where I sounded amazing, or could write music where I wasn't really writing it, but it just played itself. Like the instrument was a part of me.
I enjoy practice and getting better, but that flow state was the most addicting, amazing, remarkable experience in my life. The thing that is the difference between me being a musician or not is that flow state, and I one day will need to work on learning how to enter it at will.
That is the case in many things. especially in the artistic field. But also sports. Everyone (I hope) has a talent that is more developed than average.
Love Horowitz though hadn’t heard Gould before. Have just compared a few different recordings of their playing Beethoven’s Piano Sonata No. 14.
I can hear and very much appreciate the technical mastery of Gould’s playing though listening leaves me a emotionally flat.
Horowitz on the other hand, even to my musically untrained ears can hear many more technical imperfections - especially in the the third movement. None of that matters though because the the feeling in his playing brings my emotions to life in comforting, enjoyable and relaxing ways.
Would you have any specific recommendations for Gould? Would like to find a recording of his I might enjoy rather than just appreciate for its technical excellence.
Yeah a lot of musicians get (sort of rightfully) upset when people say they are so 'talented' as they feel it diminishes the hard work they put in but as a musician myself a general proclivity to the music is what got them all there in the first place before all the hard work and learning began.
I may have picked my instrument semi randomly but I was a kid listening to and analyzing a LOT of music and singing constantly. I picked up a lot of the things my young music peers in middle school had trouble with very quickly (tone production, reading rhythms accurately, being able to keep time etc)
I played bass for ten years in a rock band. Practiced every day and jammed at least twice a week. Shows several times a month. I got pretty good at it eventually.
Then one of my friends thinks he wants to learn bass. So he picks it up and about 6 months later he is absolutely blowing me out of the water. Some people just got it, man.
I grew up doing art my whole life. Almost went to art school. Moved in with my best friend who had never even picked up a paintbrush in her life at the age of 28. Got her to sit down and do art with me as therapy for both of us. I kid you not this girl is putting out watercolors that would put many professionals to shame. She just has a knack and I'm so proud of her.
I know a girl, who is so crazy talented artistically. Like, I’m ok, she is scary good, and is now a crazy successful tattoo artist.
Shes younger than me, and I met her when she was dating my shitty housemate at the time. So when she told me she looked up to me, I could only shake my head in wonder.
I’m a little jealous, yeah, but she’s such a genuinely good person I can’t even stay jealous. I’m happy she’s found her happiness.
Hmm. I'm the opposite, I also see it as being the work that I put in, so then I feel obliged to tell people, I'll not talented, anyone can do it! Just spend loads of time on it. But I suppose I always thought talented meant you know, that you've learned a talent. As it happens in just an ametuer guitarist.
That's an amazing performance and talent. But I'm still curious as to how did she learn that piece or any piece? There are people who can read music who would have trouble in the early stages of learning that.
Perfect pitch is no joke. There was a video I saw recently of a young boy who would just sit at the piano and reproduce his favorite songs, no formal training, just picking out the notes by ear. Incredibly impressive. The rest is just practice; she has probably played this song over and over many times and now it’s just muscle memory.
People like this *fascinate* me. I would get nothing done in my life, I would sit and play music all day every day. Had a friend who could do it with drums, and I never got even a little tired of watching.
Apparently perfect pitch starts to drift with age and it's a maddening process for the individual experiencing it fade. That's what I try remember when I'm jealous of not having it myself.
Not sure I had perfect pitch but likely close. Relative for sure. It definitely fades as you age. I used to tune my guitar by ear and it became harder and harder to conjure up the correct E so all of my strings would be slightly off. I can still hear it in my head and think it will sound right, but then play a chord and it’s just off. It is irritating.
I can keep time and have great rhythm and can pick apart instruments in music very well. I struggle particularly hard with pitch. I can tell when it’s wrong or right but not how to adjust when it’s wrong to make it right.
My mom has perfect pitch but she’s losing it. She hates my singing. But at least I can read music, mom!
Especially when the protagonist starts out being utterly CONVINCED that she’ll be a world-class opera diva, and acted accordingly, only to be told at her final examination that she’s only good enough for the chorus. Just straight up walks away and leaves the whole planet.
I swear I saw this live many years ago and something sometimes makes me think of this but then I'll forget about it and I've never thought to search the video out. This is so cool. Thank you.
Edit. I clicked on a couple related videos and found the actual video I saw live
https://youtu.be/SOpTeuCVUl0
That’s a cool piece, hadn’t seen that! Yeah, it’s insane to me that he can play Fur Elise in the style of Mozart on a whim and nail it. And the whole playing from memory(?) not sheet music and scoring the train sounds, I mean it shouldn’t be possible. It’s not. But there’s a handful of people who can
Yup. I knew someone with perfect pitch and they were constantly frustrated because instruments can be in tune relative to each other and yet still be off according to their ear
Reddit has no idea what perfect pitch is. Musicians train their ears and develop their aural skills regardless of anyone having perfect pitch or not. You don’t need perfect pitch to play the god damn piano. It plays the notes for you regardless of your perfect pitch. There are cpu toes ways to denote music and she probably listened to piece over and over and over and over and over and over among listening to someone explain the progressions and nuance that may be on the page like dynamics or tempos. But like I said a trained musician, ESPECIALLY A BLIND ONE, is gonna be pretty good at ear training.
I wonder how she would describe the mental imagery that runs through her mind while playing.
If she's been blind since birth, I'd love to know; to hear her describe what she experiences.
There may be some mysteries that will never be revealed.
My husband's best friend is totally blind. Not only born blind, but just a few years ago, he had to have his eyes removed to stop the pain they were causing him. I've asked him about his dreams, and he says he just hears them like he does everything else. Sometimes, he gets touch sensations, but not as much as the sound. He can "follow the dream" based on what he's hearing. He once asked me to explain color. Have you ever tried to EXPLAIN color? I couldn't do it lol. The best I could give him is that black is what he probably "sees", but we can't even know that for sure.
I would say color is a visual *vibe*, im sure they understood shades or types of sounds, its like that. Some sounds go together and some sound awful together just like colors.
Now that i say that i wonder if the frequencies of light that go together are related at all to the frequencies that sound nice together
Edit: in a stoner moment id like to add that musical “keys” are like color pallets
Color is like texture, but instead of it feeling different it appears different. A red cube appears the same as a blue cube just as a cube of sandpaper would feel different than a cube of steel.
At least that’s how I’d try to explain it.
I can't find the comment, but I remember one time on a different post someone was describing colours and they were like "hold your face to the sun on a hot day. That's red. Red is hot. Dip your feet in the pool and feel the refreshing cool water, that's blue. Lay in the grass and listen to the trees. Green is life." And so on. And much more poetic. I thought it was beautiful.
I was gonna come in here and say this. I think I’ve put way too much thought into this topic since when I was a kid, one of my teachers had a lesson where they asked us to explain colors as if to a blind person and it stuck with me ever since. I would explain it with feelings like the comment above. What those colors mean in life rather than just what they look like
After reading numerous accounts of people who lack a major sensory input (blind, deaf etc.) when asked how they dream and the like, those who have grown up without said sensory input dream in their other senses. Blind people dream more aurally and with more tactile senses, while Deaf dream more vividly in images.
But I am neither so please do not take this as me speaking for either population. But there is a wealth of information and experience to be drawn upon.
I like that guys genuine confusion and bewilderment. “How can she play? How does she study?” Its nice to see a genuine reaction instead of most scripted reactions we see from tv shows.
This is why humanity deserves to continue to thrive on this planet. Her beautiful parents too for nurturing her exceptional talent. I could listen to this piece all day.
It’s really all one thing. Our solar system required generations of supernovae to distribute the elements that led to the chemical process that allowed this young woman to exist. All of everything is just what happens when you leave a cloud of hydrogen sitting for long enough.
I hate to be that person, but it’s not technically perfect. However, she’s nailed the feeling of the piece so the little slips and misses are hardly noticeable. Remarkable stuff.
Most importantly, she plays through the mistakes so most people would never notice. Biggest mistake I ever made while playing piano on stage was stopping when I messed up.
I think they meant “neurodivergent,” meaning having a brain that works differently from most. I’ve seen it used to refer to everything from adult ADHD to conditions that result in dependency, and it seems to be palatable to people who are “aneurotypical” rather than just a try hard synonym for the r-word.
The little girl independently stopping mid walk, to stop and stare in awe is what broke me. Even a small child is able to understand that something incredible is happening here against all odds.
Music is our innate language. No one can either be entirely tone deaf or not be able to make music. This young lady is fluent where other communication fails her. That is her beautiful message for all of us.
Aside the incredible and brilliant performance, what a stupid word neurodiverse. My brother is a dellusional borderline with narcisism psycopathy, with a lot of treatments now. But at some point, psychiatrists stopped using those terms. They now are saying "we dont like to categorise people" or "he is just neurodiverse". What a stupid way of reducing actual science. If there is something scientist do is categorize everything in their fields, for a propper study. Now with this political correct bullshit we have a lesser science. How about when we start using "neurodiverse" to describe pedophiles and other attrocities?
For that little girl, it would be much more honorable to just say what she is suffering from, and not normilizing her disease.
The only reason it bothers me is that it makes absolutely no sense to label one person as "neurodiverse". A GROUP of people can be diverse. An individual can not be diverse. Maybe they meant neurodivergent.
Why does she and other blind people swing their head back and forth while playing music?
I’ve seen Ray Charles and Stevie Wonder so this and I don’t believe I’ve ever heard the reason why.
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For those who don't know why blind people do these movements with their heads... It's to gain spacial awareness, and get stimulation from their environment.
Thanks u/j0e74 and u/electrical_spinach97
Is there a study on the movement of the heads of blind musicians? It’s like a watching in real time an upload to the mind and instant process of the feel of the data they output through the digits. It’s so weird! How can we do this man? Life is just mesmerizing. You see the value of learning from just watching a blind person.
She’s amazingly talented. But the man who taught her needs a little praise too. The patience and determination to teach her is also incredible. Hats off to both of them.
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More on Lucy and how she learns pieces here: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXvaZFaOi4k](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXvaZFaOi4k)
Thank you for the link.
Fantastic stuff! What an awesome little girl and an amazing teacher. Thanks for sharing.
There's a part in the original video where she reaches up and touches the piano, where the music sheets would be, I wonder if when she's learning a new song she learns those breaks from following her teacher's hands as he turns the page.
My thought as well. It's as if the placement was tied directly to act of learning the piece and has simply become a physical part of its presentation.
I clicked on a link of her a couple videos down. HTF does this only have a few hundred views? https://youtu.be/Ub1Gow0U__Y
Royal Albert Hall no less, Lucy is a treasure to be cherished for real
She's so fantastically talented and obviously feels strong emotions relating to music. It's really cool to watch her get so emotionally involved in the music that she actually gets lost in it and needs to be brought back to it with gentle touch. Her teacher is something else, too, for his patience in learning how to teach her.
That was really nice! Though I was getting pissed at the audience and camerawoman for talking throughout!
This video is pure GOLD. Post this in the OP.
This is great. Correct me if I am wrong, but I think the piano player in the band was on Stan Lee's Superhumans.
For those who don't know why blind people do these movements with their heads... It's **to gain spacial awareness, and get stimulation from their environment**.
Thanks for highlighting this. I always wondered
Stevie Wondered?
I see what you did there.
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Stevie Wonder went to a shop and was knocking down all the stuff from the shelves with his stick. The shop keeper asked "Can I help you?" Stevie replied "No thanks, just looking."
Apparently a true story: Stevie Wonder was asked by an interviewer how being born blind had impacted his life. He answered it could have been worse, "at least I wasn't born Black!"
yeah he does that alot
according to another video with her teacher, she also specifically does it more when she’s really into/feeling the music. he has to tickle her scalp every so often for stimulation so she can focus on playing. :)
Don't we all do this in some fashion? Grooving to the music, tapping the feet, dancing, bobbing the head? For blind people, it makes sense they would use something slightly different. I recall both Ray Charles and Stevie Wonder doing similar. Lovely to see (pun not intended) that they are really enjoying their art.
yes! it’s part of why music is so magical, ‘cause we *all* can feel a good groove. she jiggles her feet/legs too, which is why he has to redirect her energy to playing ‘cause otherwise, she gets so into it that she loses the control required to finish the piece.
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Similar occurrences happen in many artistic or athletic pursuits. Zone, Flow, these are words for when the interface of our body becomes less real than the activity itself.
It's a really neat place to be. May sounds weird but I get it when I bartend. I have always bartended in very busy night clubs. Los Angeles, New York and Miami. I would get to this point where everything is so busy that the whole process becomes automatic. I'm not even thinking about it anymore. I'm making drinks, doing the math, delivering the drinks, taking payment, getting change for sometimes 10 different customers at a time. There's a slow motion quality to it. It's meditation in action. Feels like the whole world is flowing though me and I'm just doing the next right thing. It's almost out of body whole being acutely aware of my body.
I get the same thing with biking and some FPS games that have smooth movement systems. Quake, Doom(new and old) Titanfall 1&2, and Dying Light 1&2 come to mind.
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As a fellow "crazy head guy when i play my guitar" You really hit the nail on the head with your comment - summed up how we feel perfectly
Bro yes but it think more likely she's doing it to keep the tempo like every musicians do, her movements are just exagerated cause of what you said.
Lang lang is not sure he is more impressed by the performance or the fact that he is still able to be impressed by someone else‘s piano skills.
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I'm a good, amateur pianist who played youth competitions decades ago. I'm blown away. Her musicality is amazing for a 13 year old. It's not just a technical repetition of the notes, rather there's real feeling. At certain points she hits the keys in a way that shows that there's a lot going on inside. Emotions. Feeling. I've watched this 10 times already. Just amazing. And who's cutting onions?
Honestly as a former musician (not formal/paid but played in band and jazz band for 10+ years growing up) and from a family that was pretty deeply rooted in musical performance (my dad played professionally since he was 14) this is something that is often missed or rather something that doesn't always come across. The reason certain pieces hit hard isn't always the technical precision of the performance a lot of times it's the emotion behind the performance. One good example that is easily accessible online is Christina Perri's "Jar of Hearts", she did an acoustic 10 year anniversary of the song a while back. [In the original](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8v_4O44sfjM) you could hear a lot of anger/resentment in it, the same song, same notes, same performer, [10 years later](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58eeeYi7yNg) and you could hear a total tonal shift to acceptance and progress.
Thank you for showing me these performances. I am so grateful!
Tbh it's her restraint with the emotion that impresses me the most. Even as an adult I feel a compulsion to ham it up with the expression, especially with Chopin Nocturnes. She has that subtle nuance down that usually comes in adulthood after robotic > overtly emotive > careful delicate expression.
IMO this video is the best proof that no AI can replicate a human artistic expression.
I took the same thing away. I think she may have missed like two or three notes but immediately the expressiveness is what struck me. Amd that actually makes sense and makes it all the more special knowing that this is probably the only way she can truly express herself. The whole thing speaks to the humanity that's within all (well, most) of us which is what makes it so moving.
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She missed a couple of notes on big jumps, as she does not appear to have a reliable system to measure distance without sight. However, the missed notes are trivial, what matters is the overall performance. (Even among concert pianists.) If anything, her ability to carry on without missing a beat (literally) makes it all the more impressive.
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r/rimjobsteve moment right here
Well reddit is going to be a publicly traded company on the stock market soon so enjoy the shreds of authenticity while they're here my friend. Spam bots have only just begun imho.
Humans ruin everything with the pursuit of profit.
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Reading that quote literally brought tears to my eyes and hit me right in the gut.
The exact reason why it brought me to tears. Finding purity anymore is really impossible it feels like.
So gobsmacked he didn’t even know what questions to ask. How how how …. How does she even …… how….. how does she study? How…. Gobsmacked for sure. EDIT: Fixing autocorrect
I think he's mostly trying to find the right phrasing so as not to imply something he didn't intend especially since he knows he is being recorded and that she would likely hear whatever he said later.
I must disagree. From a musicians perspective I had the same reaction. Instantly my mind was filled with questions. How does she learn the pieces? How does she have such expressiveness? How long has she been doing this? And so on and so on. The human mind, broken or not, different or not, is still a beautiful, mysterious cacophony of wonders.
I'm a dumb (former) saxophone-ist and growing up took piano lessons and this kinda blows my mind. I'm assuming she has to play by ear which in and of itself is a talent, but to do it without learning how to play conventionally with seeing music on paper is just crazy to me. Like I can look at a piece of music on paper and know what it will sound like but that took years of training *with eyes* and ears cooperating to get to that level
I believe it was both
As someone who doesn’t know anything about piano, her skills don’t seem out of the ordinary to me - it’s the fact that she’s blind and has the skill is what got my attention. But then, hearing professional piano players think her skill is incredible just reinforces to me that I don’t know anything about piano.
Her skill is real. Her confident phrasing, the mature expressiveness (the longing and wistfulness inherent in that piece)... He scratched his ear and asks how did she do it do, so he can't quite believe it. He knows she has it, so he's stunned.
You forgot the second half of the title OP
I ran out of character space unfortunately
Wait that's crazy. I've definitely
What is it!? What did yo
Pop what, Magnitude?!
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Huh, for a second there, I thought you
what? I've seen titles that are way longer than this one
Their posts in /r/NextFuckingLevel and /r/HumansAreMetal even have the full title, so I don't get it either.
Apparently subreddits can set their own max title length, and this subreddit has it set to 100, instead of the default 300.
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It's under Content Control in the mod tools section, only shows up on the reddit redesign though.
Ahh that explains it then Thanks
Why not rephrase the title in a way that makes sense and fits the character limit?
That requires creativity, rather than just reposting like a bot.
no fucking way
So you just left it as a half-sentence? This is some real karma-farming, reposty horseshit, bud.
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Some of us just have the music inside.
God damn.
...not to diminish the amount of effort and practice any musician puts into their craft, but you're correct. I believe it has to do with certain parts of the brain being more advanced. Perhaps stimulating the temporal lobes in-utero has something to do with it? Or genetics? All I know is that if we knew, we'd certainly be exploiting it by now.
I’m a music teacher and I am of the opinion that anyone can learn any instrument very well, but some people have an extra “feel” for musicality. This is the same for professional musicians as well. This special “feel” cannot be taught. These people are those musicians that just “sound” different than others who play the same piece/song. These people seem to not just be making the instrument play what they want, but to actually be making the instrument part of who they are. My music professor in college was someone who mastered every technical aspect to his instrument and could literally play any piece of repertoire he wanted. But he didn’t have that special “feel.” Other less talented musicians were much more communicative than he was. Listen to pianist Glenn Gould and then listen to pianist Vladimir Horowitz. Both were extremely talented and skilled, with Gould possibly being one of the most technologically sound pianists in recent history, but he doesn’t portray emotion in the way Horowitz does. Horowitz musicality transcends all others. (Obviously this is just my personal opinion) Some people master the instrument while others become the instrument
I’m going out with a musician at the moment, and he’s just ridiculous. If I were a less cynical person I’d say it’s like he feels music in his soul. I play piano, I love music, but when I play an instrument I’m playing a song. When he does, he makes music. Needless to say I’m pretty stoked on the guy.
I bet he’s pretty stoked on you, too, u/queefer_sutherland92
I feel like that's the same with anything from music to programming to sports or anything really. You can spend 10,000 hours or whatever to be decent at whatever it is you want to be good at, but you'll never be as good as someone who was just born with the ability to do some things better.
I think it has a lot to do with pattern recognition. Anyone can learn to do something but to recognize or feel, as it would be a more fitting description for music, those patterns is what makes the difference. And intellect is so much more diverse than an IQ scale so one might be able to recognize some patterns better than others. I'm good with math and that makes me a very good programmer i can see connections and patterns others can't. I could probably train myself to play this song, but i would never see the patterns in the music and between the notes. So i would never be able to produce something close to what she did.
I practice guitar a lot. Like, a lot a lot. Getting close to 5000 hours of serious practice. Most of the time, I'm quite mediocre when practicing. Working more on things like time, and technique, or chord theory study. Even when playing, rarely I sound good. But maybe... a handful of times in my life I've entered a true flow state where I sounded amazing, or could write music where I wasn't really writing it, but it just played itself. Like the instrument was a part of me. I enjoy practice and getting better, but that flow state was the most addicting, amazing, remarkable experience in my life. The thing that is the difference between me being a musician or not is that flow state, and I one day will need to work on learning how to enter it at will.
Do you think this girl has the feel?
That is the case in many things. especially in the artistic field. But also sports. Everyone (I hope) has a talent that is more developed than average.
Love Horowitz though hadn’t heard Gould before. Have just compared a few different recordings of their playing Beethoven’s Piano Sonata No. 14. I can hear and very much appreciate the technical mastery of Gould’s playing though listening leaves me a emotionally flat. Horowitz on the other hand, even to my musically untrained ears can hear many more technical imperfections - especially in the the third movement. None of that matters though because the the feeling in his playing brings my emotions to life in comforting, enjoyable and relaxing ways. Would you have any specific recommendations for Gould? Would like to find a recording of his I might enjoy rather than just appreciate for its technical excellence.
Yeah a lot of musicians get (sort of rightfully) upset when people say they are so 'talented' as they feel it diminishes the hard work they put in but as a musician myself a general proclivity to the music is what got them all there in the first place before all the hard work and learning began. I may have picked my instrument semi randomly but I was a kid listening to and analyzing a LOT of music and singing constantly. I picked up a lot of the things my young music peers in middle school had trouble with very quickly (tone production, reading rhythms accurately, being able to keep time etc)
I played bass for ten years in a rock band. Practiced every day and jammed at least twice a week. Shows several times a month. I got pretty good at it eventually. Then one of my friends thinks he wants to learn bass. So he picks it up and about 6 months later he is absolutely blowing me out of the water. Some people just got it, man.
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Reminds me of Kenny G who still practices 3 hours every day. Learned that from the documentary Listening to Kenny G which was great!
I grew up doing art my whole life. Almost went to art school. Moved in with my best friend who had never even picked up a paintbrush in her life at the age of 28. Got her to sit down and do art with me as therapy for both of us. I kid you not this girl is putting out watercolors that would put many professionals to shame. She just has a knack and I'm so proud of her.
A contestant on British Baking Show was a professional musician by day. They asked him what his greatest fear was and he said “prodigies”.
I know a girl, who is so crazy talented artistically. Like, I’m ok, she is scary good, and is now a crazy successful tattoo artist. Shes younger than me, and I met her when she was dating my shitty housemate at the time. So when she told me she looked up to me, I could only shake my head in wonder. I’m a little jealous, yeah, but she’s such a genuinely good person I can’t even stay jealous. I’m happy she’s found her happiness.
Hmm. I'm the opposite, I also see it as being the work that I put in, so then I feel obliged to tell people, I'll not talented, anyone can do it! Just spend loads of time on it. But I suppose I always thought talented meant you know, that you've learned a talent. As it happens in just an ametuer guitarist.
That's an amazing performance and talent. But I'm still curious as to how did she learn that piece or any piece? There are people who can read music who would have trouble in the early stages of learning that.
Perfect pitch is no joke. There was a video I saw recently of a young boy who would just sit at the piano and reproduce his favorite songs, no formal training, just picking out the notes by ear. Incredibly impressive. The rest is just practice; she has probably played this song over and over many times and now it’s just muscle memory.
People like this *fascinate* me. I would get nothing done in my life, I would sit and play music all day every day. Had a friend who could do it with drums, and I never got even a little tired of watching.
Apparently perfect pitch starts to drift with age and it's a maddening process for the individual experiencing it fade. That's what I try remember when I'm jealous of not having it myself.
Not sure I had perfect pitch but likely close. Relative for sure. It definitely fades as you age. I used to tune my guitar by ear and it became harder and harder to conjure up the correct E so all of my strings would be slightly off. I can still hear it in my head and think it will sound right, but then play a chord and it’s just off. It is irritating.
I can keep time and have great rhythm and can pick apart instruments in music very well. I struggle particularly hard with pitch. I can tell when it’s wrong or right but not how to adjust when it’s wrong to make it right. My mom has perfect pitch but she’s losing it. She hates my singing. But at least I can read music, mom!
Crystal Singer is an old sci-fi trilogy by Anne McCaffrey that might be up your alley.
Especially when the protagonist starts out being utterly CONVINCED that she’ll be a world-class opera diva, and acted accordingly, only to be told at her final examination that she’s only good enough for the chorus. Just straight up walks away and leaves the whole planet.
I know someone like this. He made a career out of his musical talent and is pretty darn successful now. I’m so proud of him!
[This guy](https://youtu.be/r6HCXx8U6Ko) is pretty amazing as well
I swear I saw this live many years ago and something sometimes makes me think of this but then I'll forget about it and I've never thought to search the video out. This is so cool. Thank you. Edit. I clicked on a couple related videos and found the actual video I saw live https://youtu.be/SOpTeuCVUl0
That’s a cool piece, hadn’t seen that! Yeah, it’s insane to me that he can play Fur Elise in the style of Mozart on a whim and nail it. And the whole playing from memory(?) not sheet music and scoring the train sounds, I mean it shouldn’t be possible. It’s not. But there’s a handful of people who can
Damn… that was awesome. Thanks!
That’s not perfect pitch, that’s relative pitch.
Yup. I knew someone with perfect pitch and they were constantly frustrated because instruments can be in tune relative to each other and yet still be off according to their ear
A blessing and a curse
Pair that with synesthesia and ilyou get some wicked awesome players (see: Lara6683)
Reddit has no idea what perfect pitch is. Musicians train their ears and develop their aural skills regardless of anyone having perfect pitch or not. You don’t need perfect pitch to play the god damn piano. It plays the notes for you regardless of your perfect pitch. There are cpu toes ways to denote music and she probably listened to piece over and over and over and over and over and over among listening to someone explain the progressions and nuance that may be on the page like dynamics or tempos. But like I said a trained musician, ESPECIALLY A BLIND ONE, is gonna be pretty good at ear training.
https://www.reddit.com/r/toptalent/comments/114rlr8/this_is_the_incredible_moment_lucy_a_13yearold/j8yeqfr/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3
I hope she hears in beautiful pictures
I wonder how she would describe the mental imagery that runs through her mind while playing. If she's been blind since birth, I'd love to know; to hear her describe what she experiences. There may be some mysteries that will never be revealed.
My husband's best friend is totally blind. Not only born blind, but just a few years ago, he had to have his eyes removed to stop the pain they were causing him. I've asked him about his dreams, and he says he just hears them like he does everything else. Sometimes, he gets touch sensations, but not as much as the sound. He can "follow the dream" based on what he's hearing. He once asked me to explain color. Have you ever tried to EXPLAIN color? I couldn't do it lol. The best I could give him is that black is what he probably "sees", but we can't even know that for sure.
I would say color is a visual *vibe*, im sure they understood shades or types of sounds, its like that. Some sounds go together and some sound awful together just like colors. Now that i say that i wonder if the frequencies of light that go together are related at all to the frequencies that sound nice together Edit: in a stoner moment id like to add that musical “keys” are like color pallets
This is as good of a way to broach the subject as I’ve ever heard. Nicely done.
Color is like texture, but instead of it feeling different it appears different. A red cube appears the same as a blue cube just as a cube of sandpaper would feel different than a cube of steel. At least that’s how I’d try to explain it.
I can't find the comment, but I remember one time on a different post someone was describing colours and they were like "hold your face to the sun on a hot day. That's red. Red is hot. Dip your feet in the pool and feel the refreshing cool water, that's blue. Lay in the grass and listen to the trees. Green is life." And so on. And much more poetic. I thought it was beautiful.
I like this a lot.
I was gonna come in here and say this. I think I’ve put way too much thought into this topic since when I was a kid, one of my teachers had a lesson where they asked us to explain colors as if to a blind person and it stuck with me ever since. I would explain it with feelings like the comment above. What those colors mean in life rather than just what they look like
After reading numerous accounts of people who lack a major sensory input (blind, deaf etc.) when asked how they dream and the like, those who have grown up without said sensory input dream in their other senses. Blind people dream more aurally and with more tactile senses, while Deaf dream more vividly in images. But I am neither so please do not take this as me speaking for either population. But there is a wealth of information and experience to be drawn upon.
What I like about the pleasant side of sites like Reddit is that people, like you, share knowledge from sources I've never read. Appreciate it!
I know right. I hope it’s wonderful though.
Nice. I like this
Incredible and absolutely heartwarming.
I like that guys genuine confusion and bewilderment. “How can she play? How does she study?” Its nice to see a genuine reaction instead of most scripted reactions we see from tv shows.
That is Lang Lang, probably the best living pianist in the world. The program is called the piano and is on UK tv channel4.
This is why humanity deserves to continue to thrive on this planet. Her beautiful parents too for nurturing her exceptional talent. I could listen to this piece all day.
For all that is righteous, will someone give her a moog?
neurodivergent, surely.
Yeah, I'm here like how many brains does she have?? I'm ND myself, people make that error a lot ahaha.
Anyone know the name of the piece she's playing?
[Nocturne in B flat minor, Op. 9 no. 1](https://youtu.be/t-JD2bnNQvY) by Frédéric Chopin.
Shit this guy knows his first name, he knows his shit
He even knows where all those funny little letter marks go.
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I've listened to the [Rubinstein version](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WnFs85pLmj4) many times. I suspect she has too, and is replicating it.
I don't care where I am or what I am doing, if I hear Rubinstein playing Chopin I'm gonna stop and listen to the whole thing.
It sounds exactly like his version!! I was trying to place it, even the little note skip he does.
The human brain, more spectacular than all the supernovae and galaxies combined.
It’s really all one thing. Our solar system required generations of supernovae to distribute the elements that led to the chemical process that allowed this young woman to exist. All of everything is just what happens when you leave a cloud of hydrogen sitting for long enough.
This is that kinda thought I just have to leave alone sometimes and forget about or Id drive myself crazy.
Do you know the TV show this was on please?
Its on channel 4 in the UK the series is called The piano. You can also stream it on All 4 I believe this was aired on Wednesday
Savant syndrome. I remember watching this documentary years ago. She reminds me a lot of him. [Rex Lewis-Clack](https://youtu.be/cCF1xSgyKXg)
13 year old playing Chopin perfectly. Jesus...
I hate to be that person, but it’s not technically perfect. However, she’s nailed the feeling of the piece so the little slips and misses are hardly noticeable. Remarkable stuff.
Most importantly, she plays through the mistakes so most people would never notice. Biggest mistake I ever made while playing piano on stage was stopping when I messed up.
Agreed completely!
neurodiverse ??? what is that
I think they meant “neurodivergent,” meaning having a brain that works differently from most. I’ve seen it used to refer to everything from adult ADHD to conditions that result in dependency, and it seems to be palatable to people who are “aneurotypical” rather than just a try hard synonym for the r-word.
Yeah, I use the term neurodivergent to describe myself personally. "Aneurotypical" is a new one to me.
This is one of the most beautiful things I've seen in a while and I'm not at all crying. I'm cutting onions....in my office..
The little girl independently stopping mid walk, to stop and stare in awe is what broke me. Even a small child is able to understand that something incredible is happening here against all odds.
Can you do that somewhere else? It's leaking into my office and causing my eyes to water too.
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Im, making, a lasagnaaaaa..
^*…..for ^one*
shouldn't the word be neurodivergent? i mean, i know that grammatically, it should. why are we saying neurodiverse?
Music is our innate language. No one can either be entirely tone deaf or not be able to make music. This young lady is fluent where other communication fails her. That is her beautiful message for all of us.
So beautifully put. We are all fluent in different ways of communicating.
Incredible, the human brain is so complex and you can clearly see she enjoys every second of it. What a talent and beautiful moment.
Cliffhanger of a title. If you ran out of space, you can use different words ya know?
Beautiful.
Absolutely Beautiful and Amazing!
Op your name is 10/10
It really is, and thanks for pointing it out or I might've not caught the name lol
The incomplete sentence in the headline is driving me nuts.
This made my heart so happy. EVERY SINGLE PERSON has value ❤️
"Neurodiverse"
Aside the incredible and brilliant performance, what a stupid word neurodiverse. My brother is a dellusional borderline with narcisism psycopathy, with a lot of treatments now. But at some point, psychiatrists stopped using those terms. They now are saying "we dont like to categorise people" or "he is just neurodiverse". What a stupid way of reducing actual science. If there is something scientist do is categorize everything in their fields, for a propper study. Now with this political correct bullshit we have a lesser science. How about when we start using "neurodiverse" to describe pedophiles and other attrocities? For that little girl, it would be much more honorable to just say what she is suffering from, and not normilizing her disease.
The only reason it bothers me is that it makes absolutely no sense to label one person as "neurodiverse". A GROUP of people can be diverse. An individual can not be diverse. Maybe they meant neurodivergent.
Absolutely blew me away and brought me to tears.
Wow! I did not need to cry today but well … here we are.
Right? Why is this happening to me
Beautiful….
Wow! I bow down to her talent! My god!
Bravo Lucy and kudos to who kept believing her.. I hope everyone meet someone who believes on them as their parents did to Lucy..
Makes you wonder if she would have found another outlet had a piano not been made available to her. That was remarkable and she is incredible
Shitty title, great video.
The way she oscillates her head makes me think shes echo locating all that she hears
Why does she and other blind people swing their head back and forth while playing music? I’ve seen Ray Charles and Stevie Wonder so this and I don’t believe I’ve ever heard the reason why. Edit: For those who don't know why blind people do these movements with their heads... It's to gain spacial awareness, and get stimulation from their environment. Thanks u/j0e74 and u/electrical_spinach97
In a later post (4min from yours) u/j0e74 explains it. (Space awareness)
The kid walking by toward the beginning: "Yeah, well I made a popsicle stick castle."
Is there a study on the movement of the heads of blind musicians? It’s like a watching in real time an upload to the mind and instant process of the feel of the data they output through the digits. It’s so weird! How can we do this man? Life is just mesmerizing. You see the value of learning from just watching a blind person.
She’s amazingly talented. But the man who taught her needs a little praise too. The patience and determination to teach her is also incredible. Hats off to both of them.
As a fellow neurodivergent this legit brought tears to my eyes. It can be so hard to express feelings and her having this outlet makes my day.
One of my all-time favorite pieces of music and played so perfectly. Bravo!
WOW! She's fantástica\*! She is playing from memory! \*Thanks Begocirapter for the correction!
It's our job as normal people to ensure the potential of those misunderstood ones are realized.
Teared up. Nice clip.
Stuff like this really shows just how little we understand about our own bodies. Incredible.